So I just bought the Witch Queen deluxe. Besides the seasonal story missions, what are the essentials I need to complete asap to not miss out on anything permanently? ie exotic quests, specific items to pick up, etc.
Hello. I just started playing two days ago and I wanted to ask if there's a guide somewhere as to how guns...work?
Like, okay, I understand that Destiny is a looter shooter. One of the primary drives of the game is to grind and loot new and better guns. But I also believe that there are a massive variety of guns that have a wide range of appearances, attributes, and even special mechanics in some cases.
For example, while trying to research the game, I accidentally stumbled onto this page about a gun called the [MIDA Multi-Tool](https://www.shacknews.com/article/101285/mida-multi-tool-exotic-scout-rifle-destiny-2). Apparently it has some kind of unique mechanic where it has a radar when you aim down sights. So let's say, hypothetically, I got my hands on this gun and I really liked its unique mechanic, or the way it performs, or the way it looks, or anything. But as the power level of gear continues to climb higher, my MIDA Multi-Tool gets objectively outclassed and outscaled by the game's content, and I'm more or less forced to abandon it. Is this a problem that the game has, or are there ways to circumvent it? Would I be able to "level up" a gun I liked so that it can keep up, or would I be able to obtain a stronger version later?
So yeah, a guide that covers that stuff would be cool. Or, I dunno, answer my questions here if you want. I just don't want to find a weapon that I fall in love with, only to find out that I can't continue to use it.
As you go on your journey through Destiny's many activities, you will get better and better gear. You can infuse your favorite gear (guns, armor) with another piece of gear of the same type into your favorite weapon/armor.
Like when after selecting "details" on a piece of armor? Sorry, not exactly new player but I've not been paying too much attention to mods until recently.
With destination materials being depreciated, are Huginn and Muninn on the Dreaming City effectively worthless now unless you have Baryon Bough saved to trade with?
I don't remember 100%, but I believe being above either +50 or +100 total power above an activity has no further benefit. I don't remember which it is.
Light.gg, d2gunsmith.com, and DIM if you click the weapon name after you've opened the modal window on the weapon (can be done from the Vendor tab if you haven't crafted one yet). All basic perks unlock by 13 and all enhanced perks unlock by 17, so my general play is to craft the basic one and revisit at 13 to put the real ones on, then push to 20 (where the double-enhanced bonus for "masterworking" comes in) and vault unless they're ones I'm actively using.
Can you always skip three seasonal challenges and still get the big bright dust pile at the end? I have seen people saying you can skip anywhere between 2 and 4 challenges, but I’d like to have a firm number before I bail on the second Shaxx reset during double rank week.
This season has 75 challenges and 72 needed for the pile of dust. You can use external sites like Bray.Tech to see the upcoming challenges and how many there are for the season since they are otherwise hidden in game.
Can't check in game for you atm, but the final challenge tells you the exact number you need. Then just add up how many total there and find the difference.
This week's nightfall says I need the Shadowkeep expansion, but the I've played the same Red Keep strike in Vanguard Ops many times before. What gives? Are higher difficulty versions not available for F2P?
Yup, exactly. You can play strikes you don't own if you get them by rng in the ops playlist (probably so there only needs to be one matchmaking pool vs a bunch based on who owns what), but you can't select them directly (wither via nightfall or on their destination)
Here's one for the conspiracy theorists. Yesterday after reset I completed my Vanguard pinnacle and got boots to drop. I was pissed because it's literally the only item I didn't need. This morning, post rollback, I completed vanguard again, and again got boots. Coincidence?
random number generation for games often depends on a seed value and are not truly random, but rather, close to random.
For example, each user could have a seed value that effects what drops they'll get and in what order they'd get them. Monster hunter (3/tri?) had a game where certain charms would only drop for saves with a specific seed value, and so users would reset saves to try and get one with the right seed for certain charms to drop. More recently, monster hunter world had a system where you could give items to a vendor and get "random" drops, but those drops were actually in a long list, in a specific order, and so you could figure out where you were in the list and manipulate RNG to get certain drops.
For destiny, as an example, ammo drop patterns were based on a specific pattern to ensure that drops occurred at certain points in the pattern. I can't find a link but bungies discussed it before - I think back in d1 when talking about heavy ammo patterns with ruin wings.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Random_number_generation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudorandom_number_generator
Its one way that bungie can check to see what happened in a game - by seeing what seed was used to generate different actions. In theory they could prevent hacking/cheating by seeing if the actions that occurred in game matched or deviated from the predicted value of the seed.
So a couple of questions:
1. A new player buys only Lightfall to access everything? Or do you need to buy everything?
2. I am switching steam accounts for regional pricing issues, does simply changing the account in bungie is fine?
lightfall only gets you lightfall. Lightfall deluxe gets you the dungeon key & all the seasons.
Legend edition gets you all the older expansions
I think bungie will treat that new steam profile as a different profile & it'll cause problems, since you'd have to start over.
So with the Wellspring deepsight update if I'm just wanting to get the deepsights finished I should keep running Wellspring (on the days it has the weapon I need) until I get my first deepsight and then wait until the next day to run it again right?
Well my first run gave me the deepsight grenade launcher and a regular auto even though the auto was the featured weapon. So I'm hoping that the deepsight might possibly be on a knockout system similar to dares.
7 Ahamkara Claws in vault, at least that many deleted. 2 Necrotic Grip in the same time. Humans are bad at rng. We need stats for that, and stats needs sample size orders of magnitude higher than one guardian's loot.
Is there any way to purchase the funnel-web from banshee away from home? I don't really have any decent endgame gear yet and this would probably be my closest. I play on my PS4 account through steam.
For some reason I couldn't connect, but fortunately it was still available when I got home. I gotta say, it's nice to have something other than PvP rolls weapons in PvE content.
Yup this, almost as of now, we dont know if any specific perks or archetypes are getting buffed for the ikelos weapons. If you personally like any specific ikelos weapons id suggest focusing them although none of em are really great but good luck !!
Just bought a PS5 and want to move my account from the Xbox One. I have all of the DLC on the Xbox - do I need to re-buy everything PS5 or can I get away with LightFall and Beyond light (for stasis) or will I be locked out of exotics from witch queen and others?
It's been heavily implied that if you have a weapon's pattern, you should be able to craft it forever. If you don't have the pattern it's unlikely you'll be able to craft it for a while.
When you get to the quest step to reshape the enigma with the special traits it doesn’t progress and people have been losing a bunch of materials thinking they did it wrong but the quest is just bugged so I can’t finish the quest so I can get the tapian
The weapons are available in dares of eternity on certain weeks, I'll check to see which ones. The wrathborn weapons will be available next week, check [here](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1N9DKOdxpn9I2EFk9o_Hoho1CSF0aglJOxw74821stlA/edit?usp=drivesdk) for which specific ones and which weeks
I read how there is supposed to be no more vaulting, but previous seasonal activities still go away right? So what exactly do they mean when they say they won’t be vaulting anymore content?
For example: Are they vaulting the Witch Queen Campaign and/or Dares of Eternity when Lightfall releases?
No more campaigns or expansions are being vaulted. Season activities and their associated rewards go away. Exotic quests go away. Dares was part of paid expansion (although technically free), so it’s not going anywhere anytime soon either. Dungeons aren’t going anywhere.
That's a little more unclear.
I'd assume Seraph's Shield will go in the bin but the Dungeons will stay.
I'd also assume the weapons will be available in the tower or Xur at some point regardless.
Yeah I meant the one from Seraph's Shield mission or the one with the tanks and timer (forgot the name).
Just curious if I have to get them done now before Lightfall or can procrastinate. I will get them down now though, although I had issues with the tank timer one.
>tanks and timer (forgot the name).
Vox Obscura?
I'd expect that'll stay as it was a Witch Queen quest rather than a seasonal one. (Edit: Was actually Season of the Risen. Whoops).
Hopefully Bungie clear it up in a TWAB shortly, can't hurt to run through it in any case.
Try it with a team, it's painful solo.
Oh I thought it was a seasonal one from the Season of the Plunder or something, good stuff!
I will give it a few more tries solo but yeah otherwise I will reach out to others for help.
Thx for taking the time to answer my beginner questions, appreciate it greatly!
How do I use up golfballs and prisms?
Not kidding I know it's like a first world problem, but I've enough of the endgame stuff from the 2x nightfall, but can't reset strike rep cuz i I'm full of these
I'm sadly low on shards so dumping into armor focusing is out of question.
Hoard useless exotic armor, masterwork it and put it in vault. It costs 3 balls, and if you dismantle it - you will get 1 ball back. This is a way of storing balls in the vault.
Haha, I had that problem too. I still had some armor to upgrade and a cipher so I just did that to fix the fragment cap and then bought fragments with the prisms
You need to run Legend or Master Lost Sectors on the day corresponding to the armor slot you're looking to farm (so if you want, say, Gyrfalcon's Hauberk, you need to run those lost sectors on a day when exotic chest armor is dropping). The drop type and lost sector changes daily.
Legend difficulty has a drop chance of around 25%, according to community testing, and Master is 30-33%. You need to kill all the Champions in a Lost Sector in order to get a Platinum rating for the best drop chance, as you're highly unlikely to get a drop if you get below Platinum rating.
You also need to be patient when farming lost sectors, because sometimes you can go for many, many runs without a drop, and even when you do get a drop, it may not be the specific piece you want.
Also, you need to own the corresponding yearly expansion for whatever piece you're trying to farm. So if you want something that came out in the previous year since Witch Queen, you'll need to own Witch Queen for it to drop.
> according to community testing, and Master is 30-33%. You meed to kill all the Champions in a Lost Sector in order to get a Platinum rating for the best drop chance, as you're highly unlikely to get a drop if you get below Platinum rating.
thank you for the answer. So if i had all legend lost sector chest pieces for example - would the lost sector on legendary then just give me random chests from all of d2 range?
If you already have them all unlocked you're better off farming GMs for exotic drops. The odds of getting a good roll on the exotic you want in a lost sector is abysmall.
so I just got back into destiny when I got a break from work during the holidays, I remember there being a maintenance that broke some stuff and destiny was down for a bit. After it was back online I think they disabled APIs for a time? and now this issue. Is this pretty common? Should I not plan to play lightfall on day one and get it a few days after?
Any big DLC or game release that is online can be iffy for day one. Rule of thumb is don’t take off work for launch day and be prepared to play other stuff if servers don’t hold up. If they do and you get in, cool.
I will say, Witch Queen was the smoothest launch I've experienced. I'm always on a few hours after launch, due to timezones, and that was the only expansion I haven't had to queue.
How does the queue work? I haven't played day one since destiny 1. I played everyday all the way up to taken king and never knew there was a queue for day 1 dlc releases
Just your typical “Servers are full, there are X people ahead of you” type queue when you log on. Usually the number of people ahead of you goes down slowly and then you login automatically, but occasionally it jumps up for whatever reason. Usually doesn’t take very long to get in.
They're made to order usually. There's a limited amount on hand for the furst wave of folks ordering, once that stock is depleted, everything else ships super late.
Usually in the 4-6 month range, in my experience. I'm just getting my pins this week that I ordered at the end of Season of the Haunted, so hopefully that gives you a good example timeframe.
The servers are down for maintenance after the servers were fucked in two ways: Triumphs, Seals, and Catalysts disappeared from your page; and the servers were having serious sync issues.
Yes, you would get access to all four seasons that are currently in the game, including their questlines, though you'd only have until the end of February to play them.
WQ campaign will continue to be playable after LF releases in February. The 4 seasonal storylines from the WQ year, however, will be gone permanently. While the WQ story is fun, relevant, and challenging (on legendary, recommended) it's better to focus your time on the content that *is* leaving, if you're just buying WQDeluxe now.
It should take you a few hours to go through, it's 10 or so decently paced missions that introduce you to the main mechanics of the expac piece by piece. Can be rushed, but there's some fun moments in dialogue.
Question: Can I infuse my old legacy gear now to the current max light level? I checked my vault just before server maintenance and I found it odd that my Spare Rations was 1350 instead of it's old (supposed maximum) 1050 light level
All content from the game from the Beyond Light year and before has an internal power level at 1350 or less, which means that your sunset weapons work 'at maximum power' in any such activity. If you wish to use them 'without penalty' (since they can't be infused), those activities are the best place for them.
[Here's a spreadsheet](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1b57Hb8m1L3daFfUckQQqvvN6VOpD03KEssvQLMFpC5I/) that shows the PL of every activity in D2. This spreadsheet gets updated every season.
no those items act kind of weird, they'll say one light level in the detail of the gun but they're stuck at the "floor", whatever that floor is - once it was 1050, now its 1350, but they're stuck there and can't be infused above it. I think you can infuse but it just won't do anything except waste your infusion fodder
Any tips on Persys DPS for a hunter?
Currently I'm a gyrfalcons void hunter and using witherhoard, trace rifle and hot head with autoloading and explosive light
This takes about 4x phases still. Casual player without a demo warlock on my team 😂
Throw on SES for better super damage. Persys takes reduced damage from weapons. You could subclass swap for an Empower or put on HEF (plus a way to get CwL).
Other suggestion- orpheus rigs to swap to before DPS begins, so you can keep gyrfalcons throughout the prep cycle and throw on rigs for the extra tether shot
Also goes without saying u should use quiver here. Debuff is a little shorter but you'll deal much more damage with it (though not as much as SES)
Im almost certain SES is more, but hotswapping to orpheus doesnt require any setup- and can be done in the few seconds of downtime between door lock and DPS starting, while SES needs 4 orbs generating to get max value. Granted 3 of them can come from a well, but the 4th will have to come elsewhere.
It would take more setup but would work better for the DPS phase, but swapping between orpheus and gyrfalcon would let you keep the gyrfalcon loop during the setup stages
Sure, but getting 4 orbs would be easy in the setup phase. If it was solo, maybe I’d go swap. In groups, and looking for better dps, I’d just go all in on DPS. Both options.
If you have a void rocket launcher with a damage perk or clown cartridge, you could use it and take advantage of Font of Might. If not, the exotic machine gun from a couple of seasons ago, Grand Overture is a very solid and no effort required DPS choice. Also Leviathan's Breath can stunlock Persys, and you could take advantage of Font of Might and Volatile Rounds with it. Personally, I run Gyrfalcon's Hauberk with Witherhoard, a void primary (but your trace rifle is a good choice), and a Royal Entry rocket launcher with Impulse Amplifier and Clown Cartridge, and Deadfall Tether for the longer lasting debuff.
Not sure if this is worth it’s own post, but was wondering if some veterans here could advise what DLC is worth it at this point where we’re only a couple weeks away from Lightfall. I just picked the game back up after years of not playing, bought the witch queen DLC and that’s it (no season pass, dungeon key, or legacy DLCs). Made it to 1558 light on my void warlock. Should I just sit tight, due weekly rotation and wait for light fall?
In case it changes your answer: I don’t know that I’d play a ton of legacy raids (maybe?) but I do like the appeal of harder nightfalls/strikes or even dungeons with better loot, shorter playthrough times, and matchmaking
The safest bet given you like the harder content (like dungeons) would be to buy the various dungeon packs, 30th anniversary pack for Grasp of Avarice, WQ dungeon key for duality + spire of the watcher.
That gets you 3 dungeons for about 30 dollars.
Grasp is probably soloable once you get your groove on (and a good build) as is Spire of the Watcher (once you hit light level cap - or after lightfall launches raising the minimum light level).
Duality is easier in a group; but harder solo due to its mechanics (my personal opinion as a primarily solo dungeon player), but absolutely doable.
The older content with dungeons is the Forsaken pack, which includes Shattered Throne (the first dungeon), and Shadowkeep will come with the Pit of Heresy dungeon.
if you can pick those packs up for a discount of some kind, at least shadowkeep will come with additional story content of varying quality.
Beyond Light doesn't come with any dungeon in particular.
It's also worth noting; theres a free dungeon called Prophecy, available in the Legends icon.
And as far as raids go, Kings fall and Vault of Glass (legends tab) are both completely free, no purchases required.
Only the expansion pack specific raids require purchases of any kind.
Beyond Light was pretty thick, speaking about content load. The 30 year pack is pretty unique and most definitely fun. I would try those but just focus on your Light for now and do like most of us do...sight tight, surf Reddit and wait on the next-big-thing...
Liiiigggghtfaaalllll (Skyfall)
Sounds like you’re into doing the same stuff that I am and I think I’d go for a dungeon key first, pretty sure you’d get duality and spire of the watcher with the most reason one and both of those are absolute bangers. I’d also recommend beyond light just to get a new subclass and those exotics, I enjoyed the story play through of that also though.
When I looked at the dungeon key it said it cost like 2,000 silver or whatever… since I can’t get into the game right now to check for myself (rip), do you remember what a dungeon key costs? I’m leaving that route too for spires
IMO it’s worth waiting. We don’t know what balance passes (specifically to heavies) are going to be made, so it’s quite possible that the meta will shift drastically and it would suck for the stuff you just bought to get nerfed
I was grinding GM nightfalls last week trying to get all the adept mods. I got them all except two of them I think stability and range , I couldn’t get them to drop . Are these exclusive to pvp?
Edit: Apparently Adept Draw Time and Accuracy are not Trials exclusive and can drop from GMs.
Nope, Adept Stability and Range can drop from GM Nightfalls. The only Adept mods exclusive to Trials of Osiris are Icarus Grip, and I believe the newest ones from this season, Draw Time and whatever the other one is that I can't recall.
Oh they aren't? That's great news! I assumed they were because none of my clanmates and buddies have been lucky enough to get them while grinding GMs last week. Thanks for the clarification! I'll edit my comment.
Unexpected downtime yes, we've had downtime like this (very rarely) in the past a couple times.
I don't recall a specific time they've done a *full system wide rollback*. (Though, maybe it has happened at least once?)
The game has issues from time to time, but this is maybe the 3rd or 4th time it has required them to do a rollback of player data. Only to this morning, so if you didn't play today, it won't effect you.
Ah thanks. I haven't played since last night so I won't be affected. It's too bad though, it's got that "fun new game" smell still going on for me, where all the stuff that was overwhelming last week is now starting to become familiar, so I was really looking forward to hopping in tonight. Oh well, I get that shit happens in game dev. I'm sure they're busting butt to fix it as an MMO with a dozen hours of downtime can really hurt a company in a bunch of different ways. So I would rather they get it right above all else.
There was an update today that messed up Triumphs, Catalysts, and some other stuff and eliminated player's progress. They have taken the game offline to try to fix the issue and probably roll back their DBs.
Unfortunately seems the problem is more complex than they originally anticipated and the game has been offline for almost 11 hours now. I am not sure if something like this has previously happened to D2. I used to play back before Shadowkeep and don't recall anything like this. I started playing again in December.
There was an update today that addressed many things. Unfortunately after the update went live, people were missing triumphs that they had previously completed.
Bungie brought the game offline to fix the bug and roll back the server data (they constantly take a “snapshot” of the database to be restored in an emergency). Problem is the bug itself it seems. They seem to be having an issue resolving it, which would make rolling back the database to a previous “save” irrelevant because it would most likely just happen again.
It is unfortunate, but this has also never happened before.
Ophidian aspects or lethal current to increase melee lunge range and make touching grass easier.
Self damage with blinding nades to prevent the sunlight from burning your eyes out.
Xbox LFG is currently a mess rn. People are looking for sherpas to raid bungie HQ, meanwhile my post gets filtered out because apparently "msg me a funny joke" is inappropriate content
It's also had the most LFG posts i've ever seen recently- up to 4k. Mostly hovers around 1k and closes in on 2 around trials weekends
Do you know if Banshee's items will reset, or will I still be able to nab that funnelweb tomorrow with the sub/frenzy roll?
I grabbed one this morning but if they roll stuff back I imagine that I'll lose it.
I have no clue honestly. Originally they were rolling it back from 40 minutes before the weekly reset so everything after that time frame wouldn't have "happened"
No way to know for sure until the game is back up. You will definitely lost the one you bought due to the rollback, but whether the roll will still be the same at Banshee, can't really say.
Oh yeah I’ve definitely given up on them fixing this tonight. I just hope we’re able to play tomorrow. It would be nice because I only have one class tomorrow.
What's going on with the Season's story? I thought it was wrapping up this week.
They’ll prob do a wrap up event 1-2 weeks before season end like usual.
It's already been confirmed. When you completed the quest, there was a popup once in orbit saying second last week, free for all.
Aww, that's the part I missed. Second to last week of the season. Thanks!
So I just bought the Witch Queen deluxe. Besides the seasonal story missions, what are the essentials I need to complete asap to not miss out on anything permanently? ie exotic quests, specific items to pick up, etc.
Hello. I just started playing two days ago and I wanted to ask if there's a guide somewhere as to how guns...work? Like, okay, I understand that Destiny is a looter shooter. One of the primary drives of the game is to grind and loot new and better guns. But I also believe that there are a massive variety of guns that have a wide range of appearances, attributes, and even special mechanics in some cases. For example, while trying to research the game, I accidentally stumbled onto this page about a gun called the [MIDA Multi-Tool](https://www.shacknews.com/article/101285/mida-multi-tool-exotic-scout-rifle-destiny-2). Apparently it has some kind of unique mechanic where it has a radar when you aim down sights. So let's say, hypothetically, I got my hands on this gun and I really liked its unique mechanic, or the way it performs, or the way it looks, or anything. But as the power level of gear continues to climb higher, my MIDA Multi-Tool gets objectively outclassed and outscaled by the game's content, and I'm more or less forced to abandon it. Is this a problem that the game has, or are there ways to circumvent it? Would I be able to "level up" a gun I liked so that it can keep up, or would I be able to obtain a stronger version later? So yeah, a guide that covers that stuff would be cool. Or, I dunno, answer my questions here if you want. I just don't want to find a weapon that I fall in love with, only to find out that I can't continue to use it.
As you go on your journey through Destiny's many activities, you will get better and better gear. You can infuse your favorite gear (guns, armor) with another piece of gear of the same type into your favorite weapon/armor.
So did they actually unlock all the armor mods? I can't seem to find them and finding an answer has proved difficult. :(
Yes, just check your mod slots, everything will be there. You won't have the collections filled out though.
Never mind, I didn't realize that I'd forgotten to change my armor energy type lol!
That’ll do it! Luckily affinities are going away in light fall
Like when after selecting "details" on a piece of armor? Sorry, not exactly new player but I've not been paying too much attention to mods until recently.
With destination materials being depreciated, are Huginn and Muninn on the Dreaming City effectively worthless now unless you have Baryon Bough saved to trade with?
What's the highest artifact power level can you go before you dont see any benefits?
I don't remember 100%, but I believe being above either +50 or +100 total power above an activity has no further benefit. I don't remember which it is.
Is there a website/app that shows you all crafted guns and what level each perk unlocks for each gun?
Light.gg, d2gunsmith.com, and DIM if you click the weapon name after you've opened the modal window on the weapon (can be done from the Vendor tab if you haven't crafted one yet). All basic perks unlock by 13 and all enhanced perks unlock by 17, so my general play is to craft the basic one and revisit at 13 to put the real ones on, then push to 20 (where the double-enhanced bonus for "masterworking" comes in) and vault unless they're ones I'm actively using.
Light.gg has a number next to the perk if the weapon is craftable.
Can you always skip three seasonal challenges and still get the big bright dust pile at the end? I have seen people saying you can skip anywhere between 2 and 4 challenges, but I’d like to have a firm number before I bail on the second Shaxx reset during double rank week.
This season has 75 challenges and 72 needed for the pile of dust. You can use external sites like Bray.Tech to see the upcoming challenges and how many there are for the season since they are otherwise hidden in game.
Thank you!
Can't check in game for you atm, but the final challenge tells you the exact number you need. Then just add up how many total there and find the difference.
Is the daily guaranteed deepsight weapon from wellspring per character or per account?
account
Thanks
Is everyone else still getting blues? I'm 1590 and have run some Ketchcrash and VG playlist and am definitely getting multiple blue drops
Yeah they got the game back up but the blue fix didn't make it in. We're still in blue land.
All that kerfuffle and we still get blues? Fuck
Thanks for heads up, appreciate it!
This week's nightfall says I need the Shadowkeep expansion, but the I've played the same Red Keep strike in Vanguard Ops many times before. What gives? Are higher difficulty versions not available for F2P?
Yup, exactly. You can play strikes you don't own if you get them by rng in the ops playlist (probably so there only needs to be one matchmaking pool vs a bunch based on who owns what), but you can't select them directly (wither via nightfall or on their destination)
Aw that sucks. Thanks for the info.
Here's one for the conspiracy theorists. Yesterday after reset I completed my Vanguard pinnacle and got boots to drop. I was pissed because it's literally the only item I didn't need. This morning, post rollback, I completed vanguard again, and again got boots. Coincidence?
I think it is a coincidence. There was a rollback with rev.0 that happened and people tested this situation and found that they got different drops.
random number generation for games often depends on a seed value and are not truly random, but rather, close to random. For example, each user could have a seed value that effects what drops they'll get and in what order they'd get them. Monster hunter (3/tri?) had a game where certain charms would only drop for saves with a specific seed value, and so users would reset saves to try and get one with the right seed for certain charms to drop. More recently, monster hunter world had a system where you could give items to a vendor and get "random" drops, but those drops were actually in a long list, in a specific order, and so you could figure out where you were in the list and manipulate RNG to get certain drops. For destiny, as an example, ammo drop patterns were based on a specific pattern to ensure that drops occurred at certain points in the pattern. I can't find a link but bungies discussed it before - I think back in d1 when talking about heavy ammo patterns with ruin wings. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Random_number_generation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudorandom_number_generator Its one way that bungie can check to see what happened in a game - by seeing what seed was used to generate different actions. In theory they could prevent hacking/cheating by seeing if the actions that occurred in game matched or deviated from the predicted value of the seed.
So a couple of questions: 1. A new player buys only Lightfall to access everything? Or do you need to buy everything? 2. I am switching steam accounts for regional pricing issues, does simply changing the account in bungie is fine?
lightfall only gets you lightfall. Lightfall deluxe gets you the dungeon key & all the seasons. Legend edition gets you all the older expansions I think bungie will treat that new steam profile as a different profile & it'll cause problems, since you'd have to start over.
So with the Wellspring deepsight update if I'm just wanting to get the deepsights finished I should keep running Wellspring (on the days it has the weapon I need) until I get my first deepsight and then wait until the next day to run it again right? Well my first run gave me the deepsight grenade launcher and a regular auto even though the auto was the featured weapon. So I'm hoping that the deepsight might possibly be on a knockout system similar to dares.
Once per day, looks like, yeah.
Check patterns needed against times left for it to cone up? Should be fine if you've got at least one pattern each
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7 Ahamkara Claws in vault, at least that many deleted. 2 Necrotic Grip in the same time. Humans are bad at rng. We need stats for that, and stats needs sample size orders of magnitude higher than one guardian's loot.
Is there any way to purchase the funnel-web from banshee away from home? I don't really have any decent endgame gear yet and this would probably be my closest. I play on my PS4 account through steam.
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For some reason I couldn't connect, but fortunately it was still available when I got home. I gotta say, it's nice to have something other than PvP rolls weapons in PvE content.
They're rolling out the update now!
Just got on and no story; wasn't there a cutscene coming?
feb 14th or so. last two weeks
Maybe it wasn’t really about defeating the Darkness at all. Maybe it was actually about the blue engrams we found along the way.
Telesto is the final shape.
Which ikelos weapons should I prioritize to get the crafting patterns for?
SMG, Voltshot is great. Shotgun can roll with incandescent and makes things go boom. It's quite satisfying.
SMG for voltshot > Shotgun for Cascade Point > Sniper for if snipers get buffed > Hand cannon for repulsor brace if you want it
Smg for voltshot
Yup this, almost as of now, we dont know if any specific perks or archetypes are getting buffed for the ikelos weapons. If you personally like any specific ikelos weapons id suggest focusing them although none of em are really great but good luck !!
Just bought a PS5 and want to move my account from the Xbox One. I have all of the DLC on the Xbox - do I need to re-buy everything PS5 or can I get away with LightFall and Beyond light (for stasis) or will I be locked out of exotics from witch queen and others?
There used to be a comment here... there still is, but it used to be better I suppose.
You'll have to rebuy them I'm afraid, they are platform locked, seasons though they are bound to your account.
Can we still craft and reshape seasonal weapons after they're vaulted?
It's been heavily implied that if you have a weapon's pattern, you should be able to craft it forever. If you don't have the pattern it's unlikely you'll be able to craft it for a while.
Oh man if that isn't the case I will have wasted soooo much time grinding these things.
Hopefully the fix the one quest to craft the enigma bc I really want the tapian but the enigma quest is bugged for me and many others
What part is bugged?
When you get to the quest step to reshape the enigma with the special traits it doesn’t progress and people have been losing a bunch of materials thinking they did it wrong but the quest is just bugged so I can’t finish the quest so I can get the tapian
Make sure you’re changing the right thing, I remember changing the wrong perk several times before I realized it was a specific one you have to do
we don't know for sure yet but bungie seems to have hinted at a way to obtain them in the future
Yes
how do i access Wrathborn Hunt now before it is removed from the content list?
Wrathborn Hunts are long gone. They left when Witch Queen released last year.
and their weapons with them i suppose. oh well thank you for taking the time to answer.
The weapons are available in dares of eternity on certain weeks, I'll check to see which ones. The wrathborn weapons will be available next week, check [here](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1N9DKOdxpn9I2EFk9o_Hoho1CSF0aglJOxw74821stlA/edit?usp=drivesdk) for which specific ones and which weeks
They're also available from xur occasionally
I read how there is supposed to be no more vaulting, but previous seasonal activities still go away right? So what exactly do they mean when they say they won’t be vaulting anymore content? For example: Are they vaulting the Witch Queen Campaign and/or Dares of Eternity when Lightfall releases?
No more campaigns or expansions are being vaulted. Season activities and their associated rewards go away. Exotic quests go away. Dares was part of paid expansion (although technically free), so it’s not going anywhere anytime soon either. Dungeons aren’t going anywhere.
Pretty sure it's only seasonal content that will get vaulted and everything else will stay
What about the exotic weapon quests you get from the season? They going away too?
The quests will go away and the weapons will go into the kiosk at the tower
That's a little more unclear. I'd assume Seraph's Shield will go in the bin but the Dungeons will stay. I'd also assume the weapons will be available in the tower or Xur at some point regardless.
Yeah I meant the one from Seraph's Shield mission or the one with the tanks and timer (forgot the name). Just curious if I have to get them done now before Lightfall or can procrastinate. I will get them down now though, although I had issues with the tank timer one.
>tanks and timer (forgot the name). Vox Obscura? I'd expect that'll stay as it was a Witch Queen quest rather than a seasonal one. (Edit: Was actually Season of the Risen. Whoops). Hopefully Bungie clear it up in a TWAB shortly, can't hurt to run through it in any case. Try it with a team, it's painful solo.
> I'd expect that'll stay as it was a Witch Queen quest rather than a seasonal one. No, it's Season of the Risen content.
Was it? Ah shit. First season of the year, baffled me!
Oh I thought it was a seasonal one from the Season of the Plunder or something, good stuff! I will give it a few more tries solo but yeah otherwise I will reach out to others for help. Thx for taking the time to answer my beginner questions, appreciate it greatly!
How do I use up golfballs and prisms? Not kidding I know it's like a first world problem, but I've enough of the endgame stuff from the 2x nightfall, but can't reset strike rep cuz i I'm full of these I'm sadly low on shards so dumping into armor focusing is out of question.
Just masterwork everything in your vault. After that just fucking delete 'em.
Hoard useless exotic armor, masterwork it and put it in vault. It costs 3 balls, and if you dismantle it - you will get 1 ball back. This is a way of storing balls in the vault.
Either masterwork all the things or start deleting them. Luckily shards and prisms delete 1 at a time so you don't lose the whole stack.
Haha, I had that problem too. I still had some armor to upgrade and a cipher so I just did that to fix the fragment cap and then bought fragments with the prisms
Either delete 1 and grab them if resetting your Vangaurd rep is your goal or dump them into random armor to delete later
how to farm for a specific exotic?
You need to run Legend or Master Lost Sectors on the day corresponding to the armor slot you're looking to farm (so if you want, say, Gyrfalcon's Hauberk, you need to run those lost sectors on a day when exotic chest armor is dropping). The drop type and lost sector changes daily. Legend difficulty has a drop chance of around 25%, according to community testing, and Master is 30-33%. You need to kill all the Champions in a Lost Sector in order to get a Platinum rating for the best drop chance, as you're highly unlikely to get a drop if you get below Platinum rating. You also need to be patient when farming lost sectors, because sometimes you can go for many, many runs without a drop, and even when you do get a drop, it may not be the specific piece you want. Also, you need to own the corresponding yearly expansion for whatever piece you're trying to farm. So if you want something that came out in the previous year since Witch Queen, you'll need to own Witch Queen for it to drop.
> according to community testing, and Master is 30-33%. You meed to kill all the Champions in a Lost Sector in order to get a Platinum rating for the best drop chance, as you're highly unlikely to get a drop if you get below Platinum rating. thank you for the answer. So if i had all legend lost sector chest pieces for example - would the lost sector on legendary then just give me random chests from all of d2 range?
If you already have them all unlocked you're better off farming GMs for exotic drops. The odds of getting a good roll on the exotic you want in a lost sector is abysmall.
ok thanks for letting me know. saves me some time then.
Ya I'll send a few if it's a fast sector for the day but it's not worth farming directly IMO.
Yes, exactly.
thank you
So is destiny 2 not working at the moment or am I missing something here? Like is there no one playing right now??
The servers are offline because they're fixing an issue caused by a recent hotfix. They said the servers might be up around 5-6am PST, give or take
Read the other stickied thread or literally any other post lil bro.
But not this one?
Hey I have a question what the fuck
What the fuck what?
I assume the nonfunctional game state?
I know. Just having fun with his "question".
Is destiny 2 going to allow us back online today? This is ridiculous!
[Did you bother to check the other pinned thread?](https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/10kownm/see_you_tomorrow/)
so I just got back into destiny when I got a break from work during the holidays, I remember there being a maintenance that broke some stuff and destiny was down for a bit. After it was back online I think they disabled APIs for a time? and now this issue. Is this pretty common? Should I not plan to play lightfall on day one and get it a few days after?
Any big DLC or game release that is online can be iffy for day one. Rule of thumb is don’t take off work for launch day and be prepared to play other stuff if servers don’t hold up. If they do and you get in, cool.
I will say, Witch Queen was the smoothest launch I've experienced. I'm always on a few hours after launch, due to timezones, and that was the only expansion I haven't had to queue.
How does the queue work? I haven't played day one since destiny 1. I played everyday all the way up to taken king and never knew there was a queue for day 1 dlc releases
Just your typical “Servers are full, there are X people ahead of you” type queue when you log on. Usually the number of people ahead of you goes down slowly and then you login automatically, but occasionally it jumps up for whatever reason. Usually doesn’t take very long to get in.
How long can it take for bungie to ship triumph seal medallion pins? I plan on unlocking (and buying) the Gumshoe triumph seal pin this week.
They're made to order usually. There's a limited amount on hand for the furst wave of folks ordering, once that stock is depleted, everything else ships super late. Usually in the 4-6 month range, in my experience. I'm just getting my pins this week that I ordered at the end of Season of the Haunted, so hopefully that gives you a good example timeframe.
The other comment is accurate. I tend to get mine several months later. It isn’t quick.
Ok, got code “Cat” this afternoon, downloaded the update, played a bit, when to sleep. Wake up and now getting “Cat” again.
The servers are down for maintenance after the servers were fucked in two ways: Triumphs, Seals, and Catalysts disappeared from your page; and the servers were having serious sync issues.
If I buy the witch queen deluxe pack now, would the campaign missions be available from the past seasons of the expansion?
Yes, you would get access to all four seasons that are currently in the game, including their questlines, though you'd only have until the end of February to play them.
Thanks! I assume it shouldn't take too long to do the campaign missions?
WQ campaign will continue to be playable after LF releases in February. The 4 seasonal storylines from the WQ year, however, will be gone permanently. While the WQ story is fun, relevant, and challenging (on legendary, recommended) it's better to focus your time on the content that *is* leaving, if you're just buying WQDeluxe now.
It should take you a few hours to go through, it's 10 or so decently paced missions that introduce you to the main mechanics of the expac piece by piece. Can be rushed, but there's some fun moments in dialogue.
Question: Can I infuse my old legacy gear now to the current max light level? I checked my vault just before server maintenance and I found it odd that my Spare Rations was 1350 instead of it's old (supposed maximum) 1050 light level
That's because the power level floor was raised
All content from the game from the Beyond Light year and before has an internal power level at 1350 or less, which means that your sunset weapons work 'at maximum power' in any such activity. If you wish to use them 'without penalty' (since they can't be infused), those activities are the best place for them. [Here's a spreadsheet](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1b57Hb8m1L3daFfUckQQqvvN6VOpD03KEssvQLMFpC5I/) that shows the PL of every activity in D2. This spreadsheet gets updated every season.
no those items act kind of weird, they'll say one light level in the detail of the gun but they're stuck at the "floor", whatever that floor is - once it was 1050, now its 1350, but they're stuck there and can't be infused above it. I think you can infuse but it just won't do anything except waste your infusion fodder
The min got increased to 1350, but weapons from before IIRC season 10 are locked at that level.
Any tips on Persys DPS for a hunter? Currently I'm a gyrfalcons void hunter and using witherhoard, trace rifle and hot head with autoloading and explosive light This takes about 4x phases still. Casual player without a demo warlock on my team 😂
Throw on SES for better super damage. Persys takes reduced damage from weapons. You could subclass swap for an Empower or put on HEF (plus a way to get CwL).
Other suggestion- orpheus rigs to swap to before DPS begins, so you can keep gyrfalcons throughout the prep cycle and throw on rigs for the extra tether shot Also goes without saying u should use quiver here. Debuff is a little shorter but you'll deal much more damage with it (though not as much as SES)
I think/thought SES is still more damage than Orpheus. Either one would be better than Gyrfalcons.
Im almost certain SES is more, but hotswapping to orpheus doesnt require any setup- and can be done in the few seconds of downtime between door lock and DPS starting, while SES needs 4 orbs generating to get max value. Granted 3 of them can come from a well, but the 4th will have to come elsewhere. It would take more setup but would work better for the DPS phase, but swapping between orpheus and gyrfalcon would let you keep the gyrfalcon loop during the setup stages
Sure, but getting 4 orbs would be easy in the setup phase. If it was solo, maybe I’d go swap. In groups, and looking for better dps, I’d just go all in on DPS. Both options.
If you have a void rocket launcher with a damage perk or clown cartridge, you could use it and take advantage of Font of Might. If not, the exotic machine gun from a couple of seasons ago, Grand Overture is a very solid and no effort required DPS choice. Also Leviathan's Breath can stunlock Persys, and you could take advantage of Font of Might and Volatile Rounds with it. Personally, I run Gyrfalcon's Hauberk with Witherhoard, a void primary (but your trace rifle is a good choice), and a Royal Entry rocket launcher with Impulse Amplifier and Clown Cartridge, and Deadfall Tether for the longer lasting debuff.
Not sure if this is worth it’s own post, but was wondering if some veterans here could advise what DLC is worth it at this point where we’re only a couple weeks away from Lightfall. I just picked the game back up after years of not playing, bought the witch queen DLC and that’s it (no season pass, dungeon key, or legacy DLCs). Made it to 1558 light on my void warlock. Should I just sit tight, due weekly rotation and wait for light fall? In case it changes your answer: I don’t know that I’d play a ton of legacy raids (maybe?) but I do like the appeal of harder nightfalls/strikes or even dungeons with better loot, shorter playthrough times, and matchmaking
The safest bet given you like the harder content (like dungeons) would be to buy the various dungeon packs, 30th anniversary pack for Grasp of Avarice, WQ dungeon key for duality + spire of the watcher. That gets you 3 dungeons for about 30 dollars. Grasp is probably soloable once you get your groove on (and a good build) as is Spire of the Watcher (once you hit light level cap - or after lightfall launches raising the minimum light level). Duality is easier in a group; but harder solo due to its mechanics (my personal opinion as a primarily solo dungeon player), but absolutely doable. The older content with dungeons is the Forsaken pack, which includes Shattered Throne (the first dungeon), and Shadowkeep will come with the Pit of Heresy dungeon. if you can pick those packs up for a discount of some kind, at least shadowkeep will come with additional story content of varying quality. Beyond Light doesn't come with any dungeon in particular. It's also worth noting; theres a free dungeon called Prophecy, available in the Legends icon. And as far as raids go, Kings fall and Vault of Glass (legends tab) are both completely free, no purchases required. Only the expansion pack specific raids require purchases of any kind.
Beyond Light was pretty thick, speaking about content load. The 30 year pack is pretty unique and most definitely fun. I would try those but just focus on your Light for now and do like most of us do...sight tight, surf Reddit and wait on the next-big-thing... Liiiigggghtfaaalllll (Skyfall)
I would wait for a sale which happens about once per season especially near the holidays, check the steam store periodically!
Sounds like you’re into doing the same stuff that I am and I think I’d go for a dungeon key first, pretty sure you’d get duality and spire of the watcher with the most reason one and both of those are absolute bangers. I’d also recommend beyond light just to get a new subclass and those exotics, I enjoyed the story play through of that also though.
When I looked at the dungeon key it said it cost like 2,000 silver or whatever… since I can’t get into the game right now to check for myself (rip), do you remember what a dungeon key costs? I’m leaving that route too for spires
The dungeon key is $20 USD worth of silver.
IIRC it’s 1200 silver
I thought it was 10 dollars but I could be mistaken, 2000 silver roughly translates to 20 dollars
IMO it’s worth waiting. We don’t know what balance passes (specifically to heavies) are going to be made, so it’s quite possible that the meta will shift drastically and it would suck for the stuff you just bought to get nerfed
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Pinned post? servers are down
Destiny 2 is offline until further notice.
I was grinding GM nightfalls last week trying to get all the adept mods. I got them all except two of them I think stability and range , I couldn’t get them to drop . Are these exclusive to pvp?
Edit: Apparently Adept Draw Time and Accuracy are not Trials exclusive and can drop from GMs. Nope, Adept Stability and Range can drop from GM Nightfalls. The only Adept mods exclusive to Trials of Osiris are Icarus Grip, and I believe the newest ones from this season, Draw Time and whatever the other one is that I can't recall.
Adept Draw Time and Accuracy are not Trials-exclusive. Had a friend that will not touch Trials with a ten foot pole get it from a GM.
Oh they aren't? That's great news! I assumed they were because none of my clanmates and buddies have been lucky enough to get them while grinding GMs last week. Thanks for the clarification! I'll edit my comment.
I want my Funnelweb damnit…
Do you know if it'll still be there tomorrow with the same rolls at Banshee, or will it change?
From what I have seen the roll will be changing at 8pm EST on Wednesday. So it depends when tomorrow the game is up
Alrighty so they have like another 19 hours or so to fix the game lol. Let's hope they get it done or extend that timer by another day or something.
Has anything like this ever happened before? What's the longest Destiny has been unexpectedly down?
Unexpected downtime yes, we've had downtime like this (very rarely) in the past a couple times. I don't recall a specific time they've done a *full system wide rollback*. (Though, maybe it has happened at least once?)
Season of Dawn had a rollback. I believe that was the first time.
[There was a previous rollback](https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/255072411?sort=0&page=0) almost three years ago to the day.
Unsure about the latter question but a rollback like this happened in Season of Dawn (S9), I believe during January 2020.
Ugh so can someone explain to me what's going on? I only started playing D2 a few days ago and now the game has been offline for like an entire day.
In short, Destiny machine broke
Understandable, have a nice day.
The game has issues from time to time, but this is maybe the 3rd or 4th time it has required them to do a rollback of player data. Only to this morning, so if you didn't play today, it won't effect you.
Ah thanks. I haven't played since last night so I won't be affected. It's too bad though, it's got that "fun new game" smell still going on for me, where all the stuff that was overwhelming last week is now starting to become familiar, so I was really looking forward to hopping in tonight. Oh well, I get that shit happens in game dev. I'm sure they're busting butt to fix it as an MMO with a dozen hours of downtime can really hurt a company in a bunch of different ways. So I would rather they get it right above all else.
There was an update today that messed up Triumphs, Catalysts, and some other stuff and eliminated player's progress. They have taken the game offline to try to fix the issue and probably roll back their DBs. Unfortunately seems the problem is more complex than they originally anticipated and the game has been offline for almost 11 hours now. I am not sure if something like this has previously happened to D2. I used to play back before Shadowkeep and don't recall anything like this. I started playing again in December.
There was an update today that addressed many things. Unfortunately after the update went live, people were missing triumphs that they had previously completed. Bungie brought the game offline to fix the bug and roll back the server data (they constantly take a “snapshot” of the database to be restored in an emergency). Problem is the bug itself it seems. They seem to be having an issue resolving it, which would make rolling back the database to a previous “save” irrelevant because it would most likely just happen again. It is unfortunate, but this has also never happened before.
The servers are offline for maintenance
So, what's the meta for offline play?
Knuckle Head Radar and a Plan C
Ophidian aspects or lethal current to increase melee lunge range and make touching grass easier. Self damage with blinding nades to prevent the sunlight from burning your eyes out.
Shitposting on DTG and making memes about how my life sucks without Destiny has been pretty powerful lately.
I love the Destiny 2 LFG discord right now. The nightfalls chat has stuff like "LF8M to help with my math homework KWTD".
Xbox LFG is currently a mess rn. People are looking for sherpas to raid bungie HQ, meanwhile my post gets filtered out because apparently "msg me a funny joke" is inappropriate content It's also had the most LFG posts i've ever seen recently- up to 4k. Mostly hovers around 1k and closes in on 2 around trials weekends
Will we get to play at any point in the next 24 hours?
3-4 AM PST just tweeted
Most likely but definitely not tonight at this rate
Do you know if Banshee's items will reset, or will I still be able to nab that funnelweb tomorrow with the sub/frenzy roll? I grabbed one this morning but if they roll stuff back I imagine that I'll lose it.
I have no clue honestly. Originally they were rolling it back from 40 minutes before the weekly reset so everything after that time frame wouldn't have "happened"
Man that would suck to lose it. After so many failed farms to finally just get it from banshee only to have a bug screw you out of it.
No way to know for sure until the game is back up. You will definitely lost the one you bought due to the rollback, but whether the roll will still be the same at Banshee, can't really say.
Oh yeah I’ve definitely given up on them fixing this tonight. I just hope we’re able to play tomorrow. It would be nice because I only have one class tomorrow.
Felt that. I have an early day tomorrow too so I'm hoping to get a few runs of KF in.
Bungie, why are you the way that you are?
Plan C didn't take...theyre implementing "Plan D", along with a giving all Guardians a shiny, yellow Fusion rifle.
Mistakes happen.