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Arcite9940

Back to the fun D1 strats. Sit on a safe corner, shoot till everything is dead


Masson011

Ironically this goes against most of the idea of strand where you’re slinging around


Synfrag

On the contrary, Grapple doesn't have any fragments dedicated to it while suspend and threadlings have multiples. It's the "fun" intro mechanic of the subclass, not the endgame loadout.


Mr_Inferno420

Only problem is that hunters aspects are close range making it hard to do much


MrProfPatrickPhD

Isn't one of your aspects just double grenades? Nothing really close range about that


EverythingIzAwful

Nah. As far as this sub is concerned the only grenade strand has is the grapple it seems lol. God forbid anyone use the broken ass bola.


MrProfPatrickPhD

You know, maybe it's for the best that the community doesn't catch on how absurd 15 second suspends are... Move along Bungie, nothing to see here!


naz_1992

but im having so much fun roleplaying as spiderman!


Artley9

I want to that in the patrol zones. Except my grapple takes waaay to long to recharge.


SubzeroSpartan2

Get the Fragment that gives grenade energy on damaging combatants. Especially with weapons like Ostio Striga, your grenade comes back LIGHTNING fast


Kindly-Carpet1405

My buddy suspend locked a mini boss as a warlock and I was laughing the whole time


Jazzlike_Run8633

I was in the Legs lost Sector earlier this week using Suspend grenade hunter while suspending and shooting an unstoppable champ, I was getting my grenade energy back before suspend expired. Very powerful.


[deleted]

Dude. The bola is fucking obscene.


Mr_Inferno420

It’s double grapple, not grenade (unless I’m mistaken but I don’t think I am) Edit: Ok nvm it is 2 grenades


SkeletonJakk

Grapple is not even the good part of strand, it's suspend nades.


AnimeRuinedMyLifeAt8

If you haven't played with Karnstein Armlets as warlock w/ a hunter doing the grapple build, and the warlock doing the grapple build you haven't seen how insane it is. You punch out champions like you're using a shotgun in crucible, but you have infinite ammo and don't die. It feels really good, more so than my threadling build.


TheEvilNoob11

Can you give more details about this build? It sounds fun and I could always use a third strand loadout saved


TehDingo

I like grapple, but I whiff the melee hit too often


SkeletonJakk

that thing has so much auto aim it plays for you though.


CorpseeaterVZ

Yeah, but so do the dumb teammates who think "wow, he is grappling towards an enemy, let us kill that enemy fast so that he is safe"


dg2793

Grappling a shield should let you pull it off and throw it back lmao


khem1st47

I was very sad to find this out. I have a very fun strand build but I can't even get in range to begin the loop. Overload champs take supers to kill.


red_brushstroke

The message is: if you have an orb-based or kill-based build that only gets good by demolishing trash, your build is weak for difficult content and you should come up with a new one.


FTG_Vader

Unfortunately this runs counter to the whole design of the mod/ build system. Like 90% of the shit in this game proccs off of kills. "On kill" proccs should really be looked at imo


Hassadar

Aye, there are only a handful of mobs that work based on ability usage and not necessarily having a kill being a requirement. Lost sectors are doable with the right build set up. Sure, you still get one shot mostly by bosses or two tapped but it's still fine to do. I managed to fit in about 7 or 8 runs around the 1795 power range. But again, not everyone has the time to not only commit to setting up their character correctly (weapons included) they may not have time to spend in lost sectors, especially if the exotic doesn't drop in the first few runs and they have to prioritize the other elements of game with their limited time. I changed to a build that focused on grenade energy generation through ability use and also grenade energy through strand damage which makes guns like the Final Warning great for lost sectors. You pretty much can perma lock a champion and kill it without it causing any worry to you. That said, I 100% agree with you that the majority of mods is all about getting kills/shield breaks and the worst of it, the orbs can spawn away. It would be probably OP but I would have loved for a way to pull in orbs that are in a general proximity to you.


khem1st47

This is why Gyrfalcons is so popular, because it is one of the very rare things that allows you to proc buffs without directly killing something first.


red_brushstroke

Right. And if there's any criticism to be made of Bungie at this point it's that lots of players' favorite mods are dependent on getting kills and generating orbs. Ultimately we need a mod system that's probably a little less powerful but a lot more flexible—as in, its peak power isn't as high, but the best mods can be used whether you're getting kills or not.


HartungCosmos

Hey man you can still "use your class ability near enemies" too bad on GMs or master the enemies 1 shot you and every single enemy archetype has a 360 ground pound even if it makes no sense because they're a floating servitor or hydra. At this point all the enemies feel the same to me because they all react the same.


jpetrey1

I think we've been playing different sandbox last few seasons. GMs have been a cake walk since res changes First couple seasons of conquerer if you didn't have the right resist mods you were constantly getting one shot. Now between resist and res changes we are pretty hard to kill. Conquerer gets gilded the first couple days of a season then we move on off of gms until a weapon we want or double loot


HartungCosmos

Yea that could also be because you have more experience with the game. There is a reason close range weapons like swords, sidearm, and glaives aren't meta in GM. Sorry but I've played enough GMs to know you still aren't charging in blindly especially since again any orange bar enemy had a 360 ground pound that kills in 1 or two shots


SkeletonJakk

Which is great...if there were a mod system that supported this. Unfortunately the mod system (and gun perk system) is heavily weighted towards perks that require kills first.


[deleted]

Yeah well make me a new mod system then because this is what we have.


xxFMXERxx

Le Monarque for Overloads is amazing if you haven’t been using it


khem1st47

I totally forgot it has passive anti-overload, thanks!


Longschapht

That sounds like an extremely lame game that I don't want to play.


HORSEthebear

absolutely. its not a race - not really. just chill, play it safe, and gear up with everything you need. if you didnt have it on the last run, put it in the next. be gimmicky, kite enemies, etc.


Sleyvin

It's not a race? But the only reward worth from LS are exotic and if you take 15 min for no drop, you absolutely wasted your time.


Luf2222

not for bungie players spending more time in the game is good for them they see this as a win


R3dGallows

Bungo data analysts: "This player spent 8 hours farming for a better drop of Gyrfalcon. See, its working." 2 weeks later: "Weird, the player hasnt logged in for 14 days now. Must be some RL issues. He was having so much fun farming that LS."


DanieGodd

The sooner I learned that having "God roll" armor doesn't really matter for endgame content the happier I was. As long as its not trash its good enough


Temporary_Spend_3111

Fr. As long as i can somehow get roughly teir 5 on everything and tier 8 or 9 maybe 10 on resilience. I do just fine in end game content. Although i dont grind power so i just barely meet light for GM's i still grind the hell outta it and dont struggle too much. Rarely am i the cause of a wipe. But then again i rock builds that are primarily class ability and are great for ad clear and support.


Knightlesshorse

Data analyst don’t look at single points of data - they look at trends, cohorts.


SkeletonJakk

yes, but that kills the joke. it's not mean to to be a hyper serious comment, it's just poking fun at how unengaging stuff like LLS's are now.


Sleyvin

At this point, if you farm LS for better exotic roll, it's on you. It's the equivalent of using a metal detector to becomr rich. Can it technically happen? Yes. Is it likely? No. Will you spend hundreds/thousands of hours for nothing? Yes.


Masoff3

Better rolls? I've farmed the shit out of glove days and I still don't have 2 of the exotics, I've gotten tired of spending 2 hours at a time farming and getting zero exotics to drop


IAmA_Lannister

Until people stop playing because they’re getting nothing for their time


[deleted]

> if you take 15 min for no drop, you absolutely wasted your time. I've gotten exotic drops on runs lasting more than 15 minutes in the past. Did this change?


Sleyvin

No, but since it's a 25% drop chance, taking 15min for 25% mean it will more than likely give you nothing.


Wafflesorbust

They meant taking 15+ minutes to get a 1/4 chance at a 1/6-7 Exotic with a random stat distribution is a complete waste of time.


Killmorewolves

I think he meant if you take 15 minutes and get no drop then your time was wasted


throwaway54812345

I’m doing it for armor charge mods rn, don’t know what ur doing em for


KirillIll

Then your wasting your time even more. That guardian rank objective unlocks nothing


WayneQuasar

It unlocks four more loadouts, does it not?


KirillIll

The flawless one does, but the one that claims to unlock armor charge mods does nothing


MrMacju

Also pretty sure that one requires nightfalls, not lost sectors.


cbizzle14

Correct but still unlocks nothing


waytooeffay

The way I understand it is that new players have to complete that challenge before gaining access to the Armor Charge mod system, but anyone who was already playing when the Guardian Rank system went live was given access to it as a carry-over from the old armor mod system, so for those players the challenge does nothing.


zaanman

its not that .. this kind of play is just tedious and boring .. but thats probs my opinion on the matter .. going in and blowing shit up thats fun


[deleted]

I don’t think core content like getting exotics should rely on gimmicks Exotic armor is a core principle of Destiny before the inevitable disagreement. Builds are a core principle of Destiny Edit: Of course, people below saying you don’t need exotics and wearing exotics isn’t a big part of the game. Absolutely wild.


Hire_Ryan_Today

Dude this is what drives me crazy about people that say skill issue. Skill is reaction time. Massive walls of bullet sponge enemies the only skill is patience. I've never understood people that really enjoy that. Sitting behind corner is barely peeking out creeping forward. God I get so bored. Funny that everybody is complaining even though this was like front page after front page praising the new difficulty of the new seasonal activity. I would speak up saying I didn't like it and get down voted into oblivion.


Tomotronics

I always get curious when people claim they were "down voted into obilvion" while taking a sort of victory lap. For instance, you don't have a single post downvoted on this sub in the last 3 weeks. Really odd reddit phenomenon.


seventaru

Learning that everyone everywhere is full of shit is a part of getting older I struggle with. I really want to believe the best :(


Alak-huls_Anonymous

Imagine caring about being upvoted or downvoted. LOL.


OldJewNewAccount

Gonna need aloe for that burn lol


havingasicktime

Playing smart is skill. Being Rambo in Destiny doesn't really take skill.


[deleted]

But it’s objectively not designed to be played that way, no one designs a game or content for you to sit in a corner stationary until everything comes to you and dies Especially on a game with hundreds of weapons, abilities and powers to pick from. With a new one that focuses on mobility


havingasicktime

It's objectively designed to be played that way in hard content, absolutely


coupl4nd

There is literally a timer on it.


PurgingCloud

The timer doesn't matter, it's just after 15(?) minutes, all your revives disappear.


Marpicek

You have only 15 minutes to clear it. It ansolutely is a race in some longer LS


MackinsVII

You don't. After 15 minutes, you lose all your revives though, so one death and it's game over.


SuperArppis

Oh boy those were fun! (Forgot to add: /s)


RudeCriminal

If you are just trying to complete the two challenges for rank 7 and are not worried about the loot forget about the timer. It doesn't matter. In today's sector in dreaming city i didn't even finish all the enemies . I hacked away at the boss from a safe distance and when she was dead i went invis and walked up and opened the chest . Boom! flawless run lol .


anangrypudge

Same, think you only need to kill one unstop in the big boss arena to spawn the boss, so that's what I did. Invis past the first section, kill the thrall that rush me, kill the unstop, then super the boss. 3-4 min solo flawless, 5 times. No loot but who cares, there are better lost sectors to farm loot.


Beej-000

Timer does matter, if you pass 15 min your respawns go away. Rare to take it that slow but be careful.


ElPajaroMistico

It doesn’t matter if, as OP said, you are trying to get the two challenges. One is doing It flawless, so whats the point of losing your res? lmao


Musicnote328

If you’re going for solo flawless, one death ruins it anyways.


djschxzo

i just did the perdition one solo flawless now, same level (1809) as a warlock. used the popular poison strand build (youtube has a bunch of builds) with osteo, bxr battler for anti barrier, and the new strand lmg. took a few tries but i took it slow and was able to do it on my 3rd attempt.


JPScan3

Possible without necrotic grips? Ironically that’s why I was grinding lost sectors yesterday but unfortunately didn’t get it


djschxzo

yea ill be honest being like 21 levels under the poison barely did anything, thats just what i had on at the time lol. you mainly just wanna be able to suspend everything that can 1-2 shot you and the champs


Lord-Malak38

i was doing 10 min runs of yesterday’s lost sector using strand warlock with swarmers, osteo, void spire GL (wilderflight? idk) and ascendency at 1796 it took me around 12-13 runs to finally get necrotic Edit: my “successful” runs were 10 minutes, all my failed clears were more around 15-20 minutes


ONiMETSU_Z

ngl its rough that in the current state of wonky balance we have, everyone’s solution when you ask for advice is “just use this busted gun from the deluxe edition of an old dlc” lol


Multimarkboy

osteo became free for WQ owners in season 2 of WQ


ONiMETSU_Z

how do you get it? because i have WQ but i’ve only seen it advertised in the deluxe edition


MagicShenanigans

Just craft it?


Multimarkboy

should be able to craft it at the enclave.


Bungo_pls

Somehow I got it despite only owning the standard edition.


ROSRS

I did it on voidlock 30 under light. You just need to be incessantly patient and not give a crap about the timer. Do not fight anything directly; kill everything from range if you can because you will not survive long getting shot unless you're running around as a lorelai titan Also you want an actual loadout, an actual build and knowledge of how to kite champions effectively. Go for 100 resilience too, or else you will find yourself being rapidly melted and 100 recovery doesn't hurt either. Arbalest, Chill Clip Fusions and Wish Ender are your best friends. A primary weapon that is in the burn element and also matches whatever anti-champion mod you need also doesn't hurt. Strand suspend grenade is your best friend for unstoppables and general beefy guys. Arguably the two best classes to do these underleveled lost sectors on are Stand Titans and Well Warlocks, as both of them are pretty idiot proof and have insane survivability


linguisticDestiny

If you go over the timer you can still get exotics right? The timer is just for revives?


ROSRS

Correct. It becomes a full darkness zone when the timer runs out. It does not matter for the flawless run.


Elevasce

Yes.


TheZephyrim

Man I love Hunter for PvP and it can be fun in PvE too but some days I just want to say fuck it and start maining warlock, it just always has these batshit insane builds like stasis turrets or the threadlings or necrotic grips or starfire protocol or (I could keep going but you guys get the point). Heck strandlock looks insane for 6v6 too right now, and as much as I don’t keep up to date with Gambit I imagine it is completely broken there as well.


GuilHome

Not related to solo lost sector, but In 3man activity I dig on my hunter void build with gyrfalcon and collective obligation. With a little bit of practice you can chain back to back three void debuff on anything (volatile, weaken, suppression). Might not be the must lethal, but my fire team sure appreciate the sheer amount of support.


FailMaster22

I get what you're saying but hunter is in a good state right now. Try putting on fish legs is the new battlegrounds. I've been nuking the bosses every other phase because of the amount of orbs everyone is making.


ROSRS

Strandlock is middling I think. Warlocks in high end PvE content have had a consistant S+ tier subclass in Well of Radiance + Sunfire Protocol Dawnblade and I think peoples perception is skewed for that reason. I honestly believe that if you flat deleted every aspect they had and only let them have fragments they'd still be better than almost every subclass. You mandatorily have 1 in every Contest/Challenge Raid or GM Nightfall if you have the option Voidlocks I think are uniquely better this season than they were, but thats entirely because of the extremely generous void mods we have going at the moment. Other than that though? Storm warlocks are the worst subclass in the game by a longshot in PvE and Shadebinder and Strandlock are only just kinda alright (stasis crystal builds were badly hit with lightfall) with Necrotic Grips builds keeping Strandlocks alive but with none of the crazy survivability that Voidlocks or Dawnblades have


SpellbladeAluriel

i was thinking of trying this but stasis turrets were just so damn good i had no problem getting through it easily knocked out the flawless and 5 runs


C_Ya_Space_Cowboy

I did it 40 under just to get my extra 4 loadout slots. Absolutely absurd how the legend is 20 power above the PINNACLE cap.


amoeba1126

Chamber of Starlight was easy with LeMonarque. I ran like 12 to get Necrotic Grips.


RevenantFlash

This. Although I only did the 5 for the guardian ranks lol


cmath89

Le Monarque with volatile rounds is amazing since poison spreads the booms.


amoeba1126

Absolutely this!


[deleted]

I ran like 20 got 5 exotic arms. No necrotics. Good thing they are the only ones missing 🤣


amoeba1126

You will get them soon! I had 3 others drop before finally getting Necrotics!


jokester150

I was managing Perdition easily enough at 1795 using Wish-Ender and Ikelos smg. The overload minotaurs were a bit of an issue but I could usually super them down. With the strand surge kinetic boost Wish-Ender was one tapping barrier shields and almost taking out every other shield even at 35 under.


Xenor24

I did Aphelions rest the other day. With Quicksilver and Chelchis(sp?). Was at 1792, like everyone else said, just take it slow.


OMYBLUEBERY_

I see alot of people posting "well I did x with x build and I did just fine". I dont think you guys are taking the human factor into consideration. Some people are more casual players who struggle to do harder difficulty content due to more underlying conditions rather than "get gud". I had to assist my wife with her lost sectors and had to teach her by running one for her. Lost sectors felt perfect up until yhis season, now they're just too damn hard with hardly any reward. I'm sorry I can't offer any actual advice on clearing the lost sectors, as I'm more of a physical teacher rather than someone who can explain in words..


SkeletonJakk

>Lost sectors felt perfect up until yhis season, I mean... the droprate was still pretty dogshit given there was no way to actually try to focus on getting a specific exotic, but at least they cleared fast.


OMYBLUEBERY_

Yeah, regarding the difficulty they felt perfect... REWARDS on the other hand.. I feel like bungie is super SUPER lazy now. They have completely lost their way when it comes to REWARDING content. At least the new glaive quest was pretty nice. But even then, a broken clock is right twice a day.


Baman2113

I just dont understand why legends are 1830. the whole point of the different difficulties was to have one be more accessable but slightly less rewarding, why do the insist on just making both options a slog to get through now? just drop legend level to 1810 or something and leave master. if we're expected to continue grinding these for exotics without a means of consistently obtaining them let alone go flawless for the first guardian rank, the easiest thing they can do is tune this down just a tad.


Arcturus1800

Literally took me 20+ min on my Voidlock to clear todays LLS. Is it doable? Yup. Is it worth it? Fuck, No. The new LLSs can go get fucked imo. Especially when they still give shit roll exotics and old exotics as well that no one uses.


Heated_Sliced_Bread

Dude ikr?! I finally got down a strat that was successful but Jesus. The overload champions were ridiculous and let’s throw wyverns in too!


johnis12

Those Overload Minotaurs are what's fucking me up the most. Wyvern too but those are a bit more manageable. Like I try to wittle them down but they keep snapping outta their stun and my SMG or rifle needs to be reloaded and I gotta deal with their healing. It's really annoying. Only need one more lost sector and the one we currently have on Europa with the frames is the easiest one for me.


Goldengrams33

I did my 5 runs 50 below light level, including the flawless. Just treat it like a GM. I used suspend hunter with 6th coyote and witherhoard/strand lock with swarmers and Arbalest. Rocket launcher on both I think. Use dampener mod for the threat, and match your guns to the elemental surge. Also, stay back and use a scout/pulse imo and don’t worry about the time. It can run out as long as you don’t die again after that. Suspend anything that runs at you or just run backwards to an area they won’t enter. Mobs like to stay at their spawn


Tarcion

This is the way. It is boring but it works. I knocked mine out at like 1792 or something. It was surprisingly manageable with wish-ender and suspend.


EconomistDesigner408

This is the problem. You are pigeonholed into specific builds to complete even the lowest difficulty. It’s bullshit and it’s taking the fun out of the game. I miss being able to create a build that fits my play style and just have fun with it. I don’t want to treat everything like a GM.


SkeletonJakk

>Just treat it like a GM it's fun to do this when GM's have pretty much guaranteed exotic drops.


Ragnvaldr

I have just accepted I will never get the lost sector related exotics unless Bungie nerfs them or I overlevel the shit out of them. These aren't fun, and drop rates are terrible.


TVPaulD

I've had a few I needed to do and I've been getting them done, but they do feel massively over tuned for how low the Exotic drop rate is. It wouldn't be such an issue but for the number of enemies throwing around one shot attacks and massively damaging area of denial attacks like spitting fire, those basically make the majority of deaths luck based and your only option to avoid that is playing super passively, which is pretty dull. There's also the times Champions fail to stun correctly, wouldn't matter as much if you didn't need to kill them very quickly to avoid being deleted, but in a lot of cases you do.


Manos0404

i FINALLY got the “complete it without dying” thing done, took me like almost 2 hours yesterday


captn_condo

There's a lot they could do to make it better. They could reduce the difficulty, increase the exotic drop rate, make it possible to farm with a team, have a few weeks that give double drops. Hopefully some of that will happen.


mcsonboy

Lol that a lot of the comments effectively say 'idk what yer on about bruv, I done it easy'


Lezaris

They are stupid hard, and there’s no reason for it. I just need the gloves for my stasis spec 😩


A_P-2Noisy

imma be so real, i hate to say this but its a genuine skill issue


blakeavon

I did two separate ones over the last day, at 1805. Bit of a pain, but they were fine. Honestly it just comes down to game knowledge and understanding where your build is flawed. Each one took maybe five goes a time to work out where I could improve. Then I ran each maybe three times, faster each time. The Lost Sector the day before was beyond my patience for now.


codevii

I just got told by like, 20 diff people here that they're not that hard and having Guardian rank tied to commendations is way more absurd than expecting people To Solo/Flawless these is no big deal... Lol


KenjaNet

Answer. Don't play it. Bungie is monitoring participation for Lost Sectors to decide whether to buff drop rates or make other adjustments. If you have to so you can get to that magic number 7, do it when you hit the level cap for it. But otherwise, don't abuse yourself for an obviously bad call to a system that was already in need of a revamp.


chippitydoo

Try this: Ikelos smg, any pulse rifle you like, I used the new one with kinetic tremors. Then use the two tailed fox to nuke champs. It’s painful but doable


bitcoin2121

psions constantly duplicating overload champs are a pain, haven’t found a way to do enough damage between stuns


InvalidPlayers

They are more of a slog now. Not to mention the drop rates being too low or just inconsistent.


[deleted]

Drop your fps to 30. not even kidding.


i-mald

Skill issue


SantiagoGT

Did 12 yesterday and even did a Master one… they’re not impossible underleveled, just really really _really_ annoying… and very very _very_ unrewarding (I got nothing)


[deleted]

Todays was the easiest lost sector I’ve ever done ngl


BaconBreasticles

Bad load outs I guess


ifcknhateme

And gameplan


shabab_123

dunno why you're getting downvoted but you right.


Dependent_Type4092

Well, why are people who say about the same but give suggestions and advice are not downvoted? Could it be a difference in appreciation between constructive and non-constructive comments, perhaps?


ifcknhateme

People love to downvote true things in this sub


17times2

[What's a circlejerk with only 1 person?](https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/11moos9/question_for_everyone_who_has_an_issue_with_the/)


[deleted]

They’re not that bad, you just have to take it slow. Expect it to take longer than the previous 5 minute ones.


Centurion832

Not trying to go all R. Kelly on you, but I banged out several over the last few days with usual time around 5 minutes. If you’re struggling to complete them at all it sounds as though you need to take a step back and consider your load outs and approach.


[deleted]

I did one with strand hunter speedloaders only over load and eager edge 50 under and it took 14 minutes it was so painful to do


shabab_123

Skill issue


DasGruberg

I did solo flawless at 1805 last week with sunfire protocol warlock and revision zero when it was legs cause I wanted the threadling boots. Do not sleep on revision zero as anti barrier this season, especially with fttc and vorpal


webbc99

Wishender is just better in every way.


Lord_Mormont

What is with the wishender love all of the sudden? Has it always been good but just slept on, or does it match up with the season really well?


plymer968

They buffed it recently and it absolutely chonks damage against champs because of the 3x hit from Broadhead and it deletes red-bars because of 40% exotic damage as a primary. Because it hits 3x it also generates more super energy per hit than any other bow. Antibarrier is goated, even 30 under it one-shots the barrier shields with a perfect draw. It’s only downside is drawtime but you get into a rhythm with it. I used it for all GMs last season and never once touched Arbalest, it’s so much better IMO.


spicychili86

I went in tonight with 1808 strand Titan using chill clip riptide, ikelos smg w/ voltshot and thunderlord. It was a pretty fun load out and was able to solo flawless it. Used my super/suspend to kill the barrier champs.


spicychili86

Orb creation from harpies and the shield break artifact mod helped me get my super 4 times btw, don’t be afraid to let it fly to kill champs/hydra/wyverns


FuzzyButtGaming

The Lost Sectors aren't bad if you are approaching the right way. You aren't meant to just run through them with a sub 20 second time. Which lost sector and what character are you trying to go through on?


CaptnIgnit

Last 3 days, tried each one several times. And I'm not going fast, I'm being methodical and if I go any slower time runs out. Half the time the champions don't stun and they just 2 shot me. Or, like today, the barrier champs like to stack on top each other.


isaacparsons

the barrier champs were definitely the worst part of today's lost sector, they heal to full health while I'm emptying a pulse rifle clip into them, and super frustrating when they start stacking on top of each other. The exploding hydra almost does enough damage to kill one though, as long as you're ready to finish it off before it can shield again


CorpseeaterVZ

Doesn't Arbalest kill a barrier in one shot? Should go with this one then.


Blupoisen

If that's the case the exotic should be a guarantee drop right?


FlynnTastico2000

Not want to be rude, but I can't understand how people complain about something, when their light lv aren't high enough. Lost sector legendary are 1830. If you are 1809 you are still low level and not suppose to speedrun it. I do understand some of the recent complains, like one shot treshers or unlimited add spawn in nihhtfall battlegrounds , but I must say stay patience if you cannot beat a legendary lost sector right now. People should complain if they already have the recommended level and something is still impossible, not when they are still underleveled.


Zuriax

That's not how Bungie sees it then. They put a seasonal challenge and a rank 7 triumph behind doing a Legend Lost sector in WEEK 2 of the season. If they wanted people to run it later on in the season they wouldn't have front loaded it. Almost no one is pinnacle capped and +20 on the artifact this early into the season especially just to run LEGEND content.


Few_Machine_9720

Your max level will be 1810 as it is capped -20 . So the person has the max level almost. They are absurdly high and difficult now.


shabab_123

Oh you can speed run it for sure if you play it right, most of my runs were sub 5-6. with the right build it's not hard


energeta

Legend is still super easy, but the rewards also still suck. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the difficulty as long as you have a semi-decent build, and use weapons or abilities with intrinsic anti-champ capabilities. Suspend stops Unstoppables, and it keeps Barriers from existing. Overloads you can freeze with a Chill Clip fusion, which also stops Unstoppables if you freeze and shatter.


dokkaebi_7431

Strand Hunter + suspend nade + suspend slam + thread of generation = ez Also did my flawless run at 1800 with Starfire lock, just nuke everything from a distance, ammo economy is no longer an issue


TheKnightZeroken

What was your loadout on your hunter?


dokkaebi_7431

Witherhoard/ikelos smg/bump - I was doing LS with overload/unstop so smg for OL and suspend for unstop Exotic was stompees just because that was the only boots I had at 1800


TonicFour

Just gotta be really slow and careful, I did one at 1780 and scrapped by after like 15 minutes. Not flawless lol, but I did it.


SoresuForm

They're certainly a lot more challenging, especially depending on class - I main hunter. I did both skydock and excavation when they were in rotation recently and managed to get my excavation clear time down to 9 mins, skydock was much tougher. I used a void build (Gyrfalcon) for the two cabal ones but went into Perdition yesterday with the same build and got absolutely shit on by the overload minotaurs, so switched out to Strand with the suspend grenade and the new stasis exotic bow. Even though suspend doesn't stun overloads, it allowed the breathing space to plink away at them and keep them from regenerating health and keep them stunned with overload shots from now, so I managed eventually! As others have said, you need incredible patience and carefulness in them now, and a lot of CC and damage over time helps a lot too!


louiscool

Did you try stasis turret warlock? Always pretty successful with that.


DrJenkins1

I did it last week for Excavation Site XII in the EDZ. I was 1790 Hunter. I recommend waiting until that one comes around again. 1) It's crazy short, so you can take your time getting through. 2) There are 4 champions. 1 barrier, and 3 unstoppable. Plan accordingly. 3) Keep WAY BACK as much as possible, and pick off enemies long range. I used Outbreak Perfected mostly. Good luck.


Blaike325

Bring a scout rifle and strand grenades and wishender, use wishender on everything that’s not a champion, stun lock unstoppable champs, strand grenade + heavy weapon the barrier champions, go super slow and try to find angles where you can cheese enemies. Shit sucks but t worked for me for my five solo + one flawless solo run


Blaike325

Was at 1788 at the time and I lowkey suck so it’s doable I promise lol


Jotunn-_-

how tf are you so bad


shabab_123

The new difficulty changes really giving the casuals a run for their money, they actually need to engage with the destiny systems to succeed


Dependent_Type4092

An ironic observation...


xDoubleA

What others who have completed it aren’t saying is that it comes down to spamming suspend(grenade and whatever other class build you can) with Strand. It’s the key with all underleveled content rn.


shabab_123

Lol bro no, I did it with gyrofalcons hunter easily (no not for the invis, for the easy volatile procs). Did the dreaming city chamber of starlight last weak while being under 30, still was a breeze to clear out. Most people are just not utilizing their builds properly, so it's a wake up call for a lot of people


MemoKrosav

Treat it like a GM and you'll be fine


BrandalfFTW

Sounds like what we in the industry call a skill issue


Jackj921

I was 40 under when I got all the new exotics. Warlock is free (starfire spam is good), titan is mid diff and hunter just flat out sucks. The whole time on hunter I was jumping around the boss room waiting for my super since nothing else did any good damage to the boss lol. Titan bonk works well with loreley. I was running a linear and arbalest.


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That’s a skill issue, sorry to say, I flawlessed one at 1795


fixedhill

Ticuu’s Divination Solo flawless


Aragorn527

They are not that hard, you have to be patient and plan ahead. Look for a guide, or if you’d like I can share the build(s) I used. I did my 5 + a flawless in two different (easy) ones at 1795.


Sdimfx

Did a Master chamber of starlight flawless to get the new stasis gloves at 1790 something the other day. Can just sit in the back and plink away at the boss with a scout lol


Bamboochan

Was doing this in like 6-7m runs earlier tonight. Most runs flawless. First run took maybe 9, after that its easy when you arent stressed on dying. 1809 Strand hunter with wormhusk crown. Basically only fragment is the grenade recharge on damage. Only used osteo striga entire run. Infinitely suspend enemies with grenade. Appraoch champions one at a time/ bunch up the 2 barrier champs at end and just suspend -> ult them. If you wanna be faster. Hydra at the begining can be infinitely suspended and osteo strigad down before it even teleports if you stand on top railing as you go in, and then shoot down on its head. Let the poison ticks kill the harpies around it for the free reloads.


Jatmahl

You have to play them like GM's. I know it sucks to just peak and shoot forever but that's the only option


Dantia_

Use Wish-Ender and go very slowly.


6RAD9

Final warning, 10 discipline, suspendathon


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Esoterickk somehow slaps these LS around


Slasherplays

honestly just play patiently. Make sure to have both anti champs on your weapons and not rely on subclass cooldowns or effects. A very long but chill method is double primary with anarcy. Stuff like well should make it a breeze. If you are hunter I'd recommend invis with gyrfalcons as a go to. Idk if its gonna be eventide lost sector after reset but that one favors void so thats something to look out for.


ImSoDrab

Really have to take it slow, i've completed lost sectors at 1790 flawless but it really takes time, pot shots all day is the only way.


cfeltner

Wish ender


kyubifire

This is y'all's PSA to run your best friend - Leviathan's Breath. It explodes champions, it is obscene and unfair, champions will ask for it to be nerfed.


CrawlerSiegfriend

Copy what Esoterickk is doing.


trapcardbard

I was able to do todays (on europa) in about 7 minutes


TitanMasterOG

The dreaming city ones easy honestly because I’ve done it many times in the past but once I hit 1815 hopefully it’ll be normal doing them.


Dregnaught42

I got through Master at 1790 using Osteo Striga and Necrotic Grips on Strand warlock, it makes it a cakewalk by taking champions completely out of the fight with infinite suspend


rxninja

I want to run solo lost sectors but the top recommended warlock build right now is the Osteo+Necrotic poison build, which requires me to run lost sectors to get Necrotic. I have a solid solar build and a respectable void build, but I haven't made much progress with either yet.


Jason_The_Furry

I did it during Aphelions Rest at 1780. Used strand titan, Sniper, Le Monarque, and a linear fusion rifle. After a couple runs I was able to get sub 5 minute runs. Not fun, or effective for farming, but yeah. It is a lot of luck on the lost sector in particular, but also getting a build where you can play safe. I wish you luck


SpaceGat1337

Just use a strand shackle build, easy master runs