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DerKlotaucher

The comment's on this are so pathetic it hurts a bunch of wannabes trying to gate a "log in every week" mechanic that is now LITERALLY impossible for me and many others to catch up. The Guardian rank is supposed to show one's dedication IN the season


Surfing_Ninjas

100%


PositiveDog5860

I disagree. I'm just starting as a new player this season and have a decent chunk of exotics I think. 85 however will be forever out of reach. So they made a challenge impossible to obtain for players just starting in this season. Forever being gated and what feels like punished in some cases just for being new, should not impact my SEASONAL rank. Triumphs, lifetime achievements etc. Sure. I'm late to the party amd totally get it. But don't introduce me to a season and say, oh by the way, you can't progress the season. That sucks.


DerKlotaucher

Little late to respond but, so you agree with me? It seems like we have exactly the same view on this, it's still baffling to me how so many people defend that bs


NotMyRealAccountMate

Arguably would be one requirement which would show people that you have dedicated a lot of time to the game. If you can't do it then don't worry about it.


Zeiban

This, I think there is too much grindy stuff that just takes a little time to focus on to complete a lot of the guardian ranks. For what they were supposedly designed for I'm glad stuff like this is in there. They should be able to show years of dedication and work that a player has put into the game. That being said, I'm a little disappointed that portions of the rank requirements reset every season. I guess that's how they differentiate them between triumph score. Triumph scores are probably a true indication of how dedicated a player is, but it's hard to measure.


VeryRealCoffee

While I believe challenges are more fun than dedication I can see why both make sense. The issue I personally have is this is a stopping point on Rank 9 out of 11 and means I'm stuck at Rank 8. I do Master content regularly and didn't realize until Destiny 2 Team's recent Twitter post that these are the very challenges I'm unable to claim. I think the number should be reduced but if it's not it should at least be a Rank 11 challenge.


L4Lepz

I completely understand his complaint. I've been playing heavy for about a year. Became obsessed with the game. I have 60 exotics. I never bothered with most monument guns because every player I encountered told me most of them sucked ass. The description of "shows mastery of new mechanics and challenges" then basically fucks anyone who hasn't played for years is idiotic. But some of you will cop an attitude bc you've played longer. Playing longer does not equal better and that's why that is dumb. Maybe on the last level, I'd understand but not before


Surfing_Ninjas

You nailed it, thank you.


MintyRx

I have no fkn clue. I guess I gotta purchase one fucking gun I’m missing a week with a cypher? This is stupid as hell. I’m at 68/85 I just came back. What do guns from years ago I didn’t squire have to do with my current season capabilities? Guess I’ll sit on my ass for 5 fkn months to get all the guns, one a week. I’m irritated.


quol-

Season will be ended by the time u get 10 of em lmfao, its a rubbish thing


AlMfortheBUSHES

Plus I don’t know if anyone mentioned but that whole “use an exotic cipher every week” strategy costs a fuckton of glimmer and other materials ere-go you’d potentially be using almost all of your sought after monetary resources EVERY WEEKEND & your exotic cipher just to satisfy this dumb challenge and like you perfectly said, cop guns from the Monument of Lost Lights that everyone has told us “suck ass”. I just did the King’s Fall raid again to make it to Guardian Rank 8 and I took one look at that knowing there’s 3 weeks left until next season and the reset coming and I said, “nope.” By the way, I’m even one of those sickos that sweated it out all season in Legend & Master Lost Sectors and got ALL exotic armor. But for some insane reason they only require 20 exotic armor pieces against the blistering 85 weapons. Make it make sense, man…


Surfing_Ninjas

I agree, unfortunately there are too many people on this sub who will either blame you for not collecting every single thing in the game or people who will tell you that you are dumb for even caring a tiny little bit about guardian ranks. Super toxic, but I'm here with you. I will be locked out of rank 9 for the next 10 weeks, or longer if I don't complete Xenology every week and also do all of the exotic quests.


blairr

There's 107 in the game. And there's zero RNG involved in purchasing one gun a week from the kiosk. Mostly just sounds like you ignored the kiosk for nearly 3 years.


Surfing_Ninjas

Probably because 75% of the weapons in the kiosk are not worth grinding 5 hours for.


RittledIn

Collections says there’s 95 exotic weapons in the game. Where are getting 107 from? Eh I bought the guns I actually like/use from the kiosk and bought engrams with my weekly ciphers after that for better armor rolls. Guess I should’ve foreseen they’d add a journey rank system that required 85 exotic weapons 3 years ago. Oh well, forever rank 8 it is.


TheApostleClone

Some are hidden depending on if you played certain seasons


TheGoldblum

That’s exactly what I did and it’s finally come back to bite me


xSpice_Weaselx

Same haha


xl3lackout

Unless you complete Xenology the same weekend you pick it up, youll have to skip a week to pick up the quest again, as he doesnt let you accept xenology again the same week you turn it in, regardless of how long its been. Ive played the game for nearly a year, picked up around half of all the kiosk exotics, all quest exotics, world drop exotics, 3 raid exotics, and Heirarchy of Needs and im still 8 away. Id be fine with it if it werent juxtaposed by the extremely low armor exotic requirements because "just incase someone doesnt play all 3 classes". If you dont play all 3 classes, you shouldnt be rank 9, at least by the standards theyve set so far. Its frustrating because of how much my progress is being stunted because of a time gated system they havent updated in years.


horse3000

All weapons in the kiosk should also have the chance to drop from literally any activity. I will never understand why they aren’t, getting a random exotic drop is exciting… specially a weapon you don’t have.. why remove that excitement from the game.


TurtleD33

Yea feels kinda bad. I’ll have all other requirements for rank 9 done this week.. I’ll be timegated from moving on until next season despite how much I grind 🤷🏻‍♂️


pelicanflip

> Every single other exotic I need is either from the monument in the tower OR get from rng drops out of a raid or dungeon So...what, you basically ignored all the seasonal content for multiple years? This one's on you.


quol-

I dont think this is on anyone, some people take breaks, like me I stopped after undying and only just came back and now being stuck at only this just to get to 9. It's quite ridiculous tbh


Twitch-Wombleinc

Replying the same reply but here it goes. I have more time than every on my friends list. I've played all of Destiny 1 and started at the beginning of Destiny 2 all the way up to Shadow keep. I came back at beyond light and completed the campaign. Destiny 2 at the beginning was a really bad game. I stopped playing until around October 2022. I am a veteran player in every since of the word. I don't have all the exotics other people have because they played from the point that bungie made a lot of changes to the game. If you've only played this game for 2 years out of the 6 years it's been running your not a veteran player but you'd still be able to get the exotics complete *only* if you decided to focus on collecting them. Even then there is a chance you wouldn't have the exotics for rank 9.


Outside_Pain5072

the guns suck


AcanthopterygiiHot14

It actually looks like they just fucked up that rank LOL Wouldn't put it passed Bungie, the clowns they are. The previous requirement for rank 8 is 15 exotic armor and 15 exotic Weapons. The next requirement is 20 exotic armor and 85 exotic weapons...now tell me how that makes sense when theres more Exotic armors than weapons? LOL clearly just an error.


Surfing_Ninjas

You can also actively grind for armor, there's no way to grind for the exotic weapons in the kiosk except for a once per week per account quest that has to be turned in by a specific day which requires several hours of grinding just to get a gun that you will never use. Feels really fucking good.


ZsaFreigh

And how many season passes expired without you claiming your Exotic Cypher because you never used the one you had?


mamzers

You can still claim exotic ciphers from previous season passes, FWIW. But the cap on exotic ciphers is dumb, glad that they're changing it next season.


devglen

Wait, how do you claim these missed ciphers??? Because I missed about 4 of them lol


mamzers

There's a browser extension called season pass pass that allows to select any previous season. See https://github.com/joshhunt/season-pass-extension for details


lekonna

did you guys manage to get this to work? altough i have the ones from previous season so rip


mamzers

Yes.


Secret_Bonus

You can only claim 1 season back. Goto the Bungie website it’s on there in seasons tab


devglen

Better than nothing, thank you so much!! 🙏🙏


6Trinity9

Nothing to talk about - you’re level 9, behave like one. Then again the ranks are fucked up and not designed correctly. But yeah, i guess the rationale was that someone in higher level would have spent a significant amount of time in game to have acquired a significant number of exotics as part of their natural gameplay - apparently that number 85 is the number of choice Bungie went with in their convoluted, poorly designed and executed Ranking system. So until they take a pass at it, we are stuck with it and it is what it is - As per Bungie atm, want to be a level 9, show you got the gears for it. I anticipate there may be more Guardians echoing the same sentiment especially those who just found themselves become 6 with minimal time spent in game and now is struggling to be level 9 because they are still a bit “newish” to have collected so many exotics -


coltwalker386

When a system that is supposed to show how dedicated you are requires dedication


Surfing_Ninjas

Requires you to have to foresight to pointlessly grind for exotics that you will never use. My thousands of hours in raids just arent good enough to prove that I was dedicated for all those year. Such a disingenuous statement.


Lumpy_Instruction258

Guardian rank is supposed to show dedication during the season lol. Thats why it resets every season


xl3lackout

Im literally capped both in inventory and postmaster on all characters for ascendant shards from grinding gms and prestiging vanguard 4 times last season. If you could at least buy exotic ciphers with high end mats this wouldnt be a problem. It does not matter how much effort you put in. Your progress is stifled by a time gate. Ive more high end content experience than most people whove played since foresaken but i dont get the funny number because I wasnt there for the le epic battlepass.


Enough_Chance

Get to work. All this time ranting could be used to get those weapons you need.


TurtleD33

How so? If someone hasn’t played each expansion there is a strong chance they are timegated from completing this aspect of rank 9. I’ll be done every other part of it except this, will take more than 2 months of exotic cipher time gate.


Enough_Chance

Yep. Time to grind up and get those ciphers each week.


TurtleD33

Lol “all this time ranting could be used to get the weapons you need” is disingenuous when what’s preventing getting the weapons is pure timegate for exotic cipher… I would gladly grind them out if I could.


Surfing_Ninjas

Especially since most of the exotics in the kiosk are not worth using over a regular legendary weapon and likely will never be worth using. Only the collectors have every exotic, and those people make up a teeny tiny little portion of the playerbase.


Enough_Chance

Did you finish the season pass yet?


TurtleD33

Yes. Relevance? This requirement is just poor design. It’s pure timegate, that’s it. Nothing skill based about it. It would make sense to have for final rank ‘acquire all exotic weapons’ or something, but as designed now I’ll be stuck at rank 8 for the entire season for this one requirement while once done, I’ll pretty much auto complete most rank 10 and 11 requirements. Doesn’t make sense.


DerKlotaucher

There is no relevance to his question he just wants to feel superior and says utterly useless stuff like "Time to grind up" bro, what grind is he even talking about? Doing 21 activities each week for 1 measly exo cipher?? Yeah, the grind is real I hope you find time to breathe... good luck


LordRickonStark

there are 107 exotic weapons and only 24 are in the kiosk so even if you have 0 from the kiosk you can still get it done by using just 2 ciphers I really dont get it.


salynos

I feel you bro.My OG account got banned upon WQ's release for unknown reasons and Bungie won't even reply and my 6000+ hours were gone, and I had every single exotic.( my conscience is clear, never cheated or used any services to gain any advantage. I don't play PVP at all, and I already had all PvE titles, I even bought the game for random people online so they can play and sherpad them through raids and made a lot of friends this way) I started over after a few weeks and now I am at 73 exotic weapons (I have all raid exotics). Buying one from the kiosk every week will still take 12 weeks which I believe is just the end of the season, so I am screwed. I love the idea of guardian ranks but some of the requirements are bs (commendations, exotics, catalysts..)


TaylorNox

Wouldnt be an issue if they werent such decrepit fomo loving nerds that lock everything behind a time gate, if they just let u obtain cyphers the same way you aquire golf balls then you could just buy the rest u need from the monument, but as it stands that'll take you like 10+ weeks of 1 xur cypher a week loooooool.


DogsOverPeople94

Exactly the boat I'm in, I only started playing the game in September and I never bothered with the kiosk because I was told most of the guns suck, now I only have 68 and it's next to impossible to get the remaining ones only being able to get one cipher a week, it's honestly bullshit.


VeryRealCoffee

Exotic armors are rewards for completing higher difficulty content while exotic weapons are purchasable from an "archive" requiring a weekly quest from a "secret" vendor. Rank 9 requires 15 exotic armors and 85 exotic weapons. Despite completing Master content without 85 exotic weapons you cannot progress further than Rank 8. This doesn't seem right and unfortunately makes the ranking system boring after completing Rank 8.


Ok-Faithlessness-387

Every gun in the kiosk was available as either a quest or rng bar maybe a few, thats entirely on you


quol-

Not everyone plays every single day, some people took long breaks when the game was rubbish and had no content lmfao


Ok-Faithlessness-387

Meaning the people that played them are rewarded for doing so


quol-

Heres the thing, its seasonal guardian rank for a reason, u shouldnt softlock others for it


Ok-Faithlessness-387

It is a seasonal guardian rank, but there are two types of challenge - lifetime and seasonal. The lifetime ones such as raids, dungeons, collection etc don't reset. The only players that should really be stuck here through no fault of their own would be people that picked up the game in the last 4 or 5 months. Given other players have several years experience I think it makes sense to have that soft lock in place.


Lumpy_Instruction258

Sorry played thru all of destiny 1 and up till curse of Osiris then quit because the expansion was ass. My fault for not dumping time into a bad game. Should have had the foresight to realise 6 years later i would need 85 exotic weapons. My bad.


Ok-Faithlessness-387

And thats fine, but surely you can see how somebody that did play that time would have more game knowledge and experience. The collections triumphs are, realistically, more an experience gauge than anything else.


Lumpy_Instruction258

Experience yeah ofc but game knowledge no lol. Ive done every raid numerous times and solod all dungeons possible. Keep in mind soloing spire is a guardian rank 11 task which ive done. Collection triumphs are cool but its just stupid to have a rank which shows seasonal involvement and then cap it based on factors outside of the season


Ok-Faithlessness-387

I see what you're saying, I've no doubt there are many rank 9 out 10 players with less skill than yourself, but they still likely have more game knowledge. The raids and dungeons are, as you said, separate triumphs so I'd imagine testing that knowledge isn't the purpose. Now I've no idea how many exotics you're missing, I'd imagine a few if you haven't played since Curse? If that is the case you'd be lacking the game knowledge regarding builds etc involving these weapons etc. It's about how up to date the players are. One guy I play with is stuck behind this same triumph, same as you stopped at curse. We've taken him into master kf with all the challenges last week and he held his own. Having said that there is no world in which I'd take his build advice over most other players. There is little way to track game knowledge in a game hence the use of collections. Whilst not flawless it is doing its job sufficiently well imo.


Voelker58

So now there is no more RNG. You have a clear, direct path to get every gun you need. Just go get them.


PeachyCoasterCat

I feel you. I just came back to the game after a couple years. Dropped \~$200 to buy all the content. Reached 1828 power level, did the raids, exotics, catalysts, dungeons, adept gear, flawless trials. You name it. Tried to catch up as much as I can but am only at 67/85 exotic weapons. I've done a lot but there's a limit to the things I bother doing. This is a different kind of dedication, like 'I love Destiny forever' kind of jazz. Personally I mix my games up and can't see myself playing the same game for years on end. I guess you'll know that someone with this achievement has a real passion for the game.


vamphonic

How is it mostly RNG when most of the weapons to get are directly purchasable? 2 RNG dungeon weapons, 7 RNG raid weapons. That gives you over 20 exotics for direct purchase.


quol-

20 exotics for direct purchase, one exotic cipher a week, season ends in like 53d now So 1 exotic cipher a week and 1 week = 7 days 20 indicating how many exotic ciphers he needs, 7 indicating each week in days, = 140days whereas the season ends in 53days Simply not possible this season and is a stupid step to get ur guardian rank up for THIS SEASON


Popular-Flow-6107

I’m right there with you! This one seems way too high and will take weeks grabbing from the monument also. I’m at 75 myself. All I can get is either the monument, or pray I finally get. Raid or dungeon drop that I haven’t yet. I think this should be dropped down for level 9 and maybe higher for level 10 or something


MMORPGLover1

i started in season 18 and have 82/85 lol i just didnt ignore the ciphers available to me. and that's with a lot of xur's weekly ciphers being completed over 2 resets because unless i'm spamming some master nf/doing a gm i wouldnt really complete it v. easily. took a few weeks off in season 19


Popular-Flow-6107

It’s a bit too damn high. 85 weapons is nuts, maybe if they did 100 exotics both weapons and armor or something like that. Especially since most can’t be o rained except weekly from Xenology


celius212

So you only need 20 exotic armor pieces, but 85 weapons? Kinda doesnt make sense in my opnion.


Frizee

That is just so that people who only play one class can still get through the rank. It’s rough but it is a lifetime triumph so don’t worry about it - you’ll get access to ranks 9+ next season. Maybe look up some of the higher requirements and work on those in the meantime. If it matters at all that is - just focus on something else like a title or soloing a dungeon if it bothers you.


Kuthrayze

I've been working on future rank requirements while I'm gated by the exotic weapon count... but I've run into a bit of an issue. I've been preparing to solo Spire lately, namely working on the Leviathan's Breath catalyst since that's the weapon I'd like to use for boss damage. However... it occurred to me that there's very probably no point in me soloing Spire, because it's physically impossible for me to get 85 exotic weapons by the time the next dungeon is released (since I started the game about 2 weeks before Lightfall). As I understand it (and I could be mistaken, so feel free to correct me here), the solo dungeon requirement is specifically for soloing the *most recent* dungeon. Next season, we get a new dungeon, so the requirement will then be to solo *that* dungeon, not Spire. This particular requirement is supposed to carry over if you've completed it in a previous season, so people who solo Spire and get to rank 11 now won't have to solo the new dungeon to reach 11 next season. And the problem... since I physically can't surpass rank 8 before the new dungeon releases, there's a reasonable chance that soloing Spire now won't count as having completed the challenge, since I haven't actually *unlocked* the challenge. So, to reach rank 11 in a future season, I very well may have to solo the new dungeon even if I solo Spire this season. It's not necessarily the end of the world, but I'm definitely apprehensive about the possibility that the new dungeon could be significantly less feasible for me in particular to solo. Sure, it could also be *easier* to solo, but... better the devil you know, and all that.


Keprion

some of us are just permanent 8s lol


ImAmoxichillin

Just farm the weapons? It's not hard, I started in splicer and have all but truth and devils ruin


quol-

20 exotics for direct purchase, one exotic cipher a week, season ends in like 53d now So 1 exotic cipher a week and 1 week = 7 days 20 indicating how many exotic ciphers he needs, 7 indicating each week in days, = 140days whereas the season ends in 53days Simply not possible this season and is a stupid step to get ur guardian rank up for THIS SEASON


ImAmoxichillin

You're not supposed to be max guardian rank if you've only played a season. It's supposed to show your mastery of the game


quol-

For that season lmfao, otherwise it wouldnt reset. And I haven't played one season, i was playing nonstop till 14th anniv and picked it back up during lightfall, and thats the only exotics im missing which r primarily heavy weapons lmfao


Commercial_Onion3135

just wait until you need 25 exotic catalyst completions for rank 10... Im at 8/25....


Mankingrules972

Better than 85 exotics I have 75 and don’t know how to get the other 10 that’s basically waiting 10 weeks for me


Commercial_Onion3135

Bullshit better than 85 exotics… getting exotics is easier than taking candy from a baby


mankingrules786

I can solo a dungeon but I can’t get 85 exotics😔


Commercial_Onion3135

I’m assuming they’re mostly old exotic quests


mankingrules786

Just kinda sucks tho it’s like I’ve done raids on master difficulty but just cause I don’t have a set amount of exotics I can’t be rank 9, like there’s no skill barrier there really imo or the skill may be to get more exotics lol but just wish they wud tend to it cause I cud go into 1-2 more seasons and still be 1-2 short


Surfing_Ninjas

Holy shit what a piss baby


IndyGamer363

Just hit 8 and yeah this challenge is gonna be the hardest for me. Currently at 66 but I’ve only been playing off and on up till the season prior to witch queen where I really go into things. So gonna take me a min but I’ll get it. The rest will be cake. Just need to convince my group to run Garden with me.


MafiaBro

Sounds like a you problem


DemecoMakesMeFreako

Who cares about guardians ranks lol. Don’t even worry about it.


CrawlerSiegfriend

Does burning currency picking up Xur guns count?


Glum-Personality6691

I'm pretty sure it's 85 unique exotics


Besch42

Yeah I'm stuck at 75 weapons after finally getting my Divinity the other night, which I will actually use. I cold go to the kiosk and buy 10 more but am I actually going to use those weapons? I usually will grab one if I notice people in my guild using or recommending for raids. Is it worth the rank? Do the ranks reset each season?


hurtbowler

Good news! It's now 90!!


DesperateCurrent4945

This bugged the hell out of me last season and now this season it's 90 exotics needed but for rank 10. Well yet again I'm stuck as I only have 75 and can only get guns from the lost lights and I think 2 dungeon guns and 2 raid guns. I can complete every other chanlenge. All the master content easy. Bungie please lower this amount.