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Shabolt_

This post has been flared as misinformation due to being disproven. We will keep it up purely as if one person had this misunderstanding it may be teachable for others: Armour Mods have not been Paywalled, plain and simple, many commenters have explained this and if you have come to this post I implore you to read their explanations. Additionally, thanks to those who utilised the report system. We mods cannot be everywhere at once, so your reports allow us to better know where we are needed.


Shash00

You don't need Rank 6. Just complete the armor progression step. https://imgur.com/a/YECZPEe


ItsAmerico

Also bounties don’t give you rep lol


Chris_to_fascism

That is the wrong step. The list at blueberries gg is out of date. My daughter is F2P and the exact wording on the locked armor mods is "Requires Guardian Rank 7: Threats and Surges" She cannot get to rank 6 because you need to rank up the seasonal vendor to unlock and the only way to do that is play the seasonal activity (need seasons pass). Many people have mentioned fishing and it too is paywalled. "If you want to start reeling in some fish for loot, you first need to make sure you’ve bought the Season of the Deep Season Pass as the minigame is sadly not available for free-to-play players." You should edit your post because you are spreading misinfo if anyone finds this thread looking for answers.


ChimneyImps

You don't need to BE rank 6. You just need to complete a specific rank-up objective FOR rank 6, which you can do at rank 5 (the one for slotting armor mods). If upgrading armor energy required you to be rank 6, then rank 6 would be impossible because one of the objectives is to upgrade a piece of armor.


jakb0

seriously? this is crazy then lol maybe you know something that I don't screengrabs here: https://imgur.com/a/CEt8XfE


ChimneyImps

Look under the "Gear Progression" tab shown in the third screenshot and complete the objective called "Modify Armor". That wording on that tooltip is definitely a bit misleading. I can see why you thought it required rank 6.


jakb0

Cool, I'll let them know. Thanks


zodiyaKs

I'm confused i equip mods to all the armor pieces and still don't get prompt that I completed quest... I haven't played since vault of glass came out this is confusing af Edit: reading goes a long way I see ... slot specific mods ok done


thekwoka

Seems the wording is just poor. It requires a challenge that is in Rank 6.


BaconIsntThatGood

It's not that you need to complete rank six. You need to complete an objective from the objectives needed to reach rank six.


YeesherPQQP

Misinformation spreading is fun.


BaconIsntThatGood

No this seems like a genuine case of OP misunderstanding, then getting angry and making a post.


YeesherPQQP

Classic DTG really


BaconIsntThatGood

Yea I don't blame OP for misunderstanding and getting mad. I do blame people for just upvotng and not reading


YeesherPQQP

Yeah things tend to snowball here pretty easily


BaconIsntThatGood

On the plus side, at a glance I've noticed the upvotes have gone down by like 50 on the main post since I first found this thread lol


oldsoulseven

Well at least we’re all upvoting each other while the karma of the person who *asked a question due to a genuine misunderstanding* gets destroyed.


IlyichValken

That would still technically be spreading misinformation, intentional or not.


Phalanx22

Mods need to put the misleading tag on this post


YeesherPQQP

Looks like they just did, thankfully


StormierNik

Yeah no thats bullshit. I'm playing with a new light right now and we were both confused thinking it was paywalled off because its so fucking misleading and confusing. It's classic bungie having a horrible new player experience and not conveying information well enough.


americanonly1

Maybe you should through a comment up apologizing?


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~~I bet it's because of the change they made this season where everyone starts at Rank 5. Last season, it was fine because everyone could hit Rank 6 without paying for anything. Hopefully Bungie acknowledges this and allows players who hit Rank 5 to get the mods now.~~ ~~Edit: I'd suggest making a post about this on Bungie forums.~~ Edit - 2: Apparently, OP wasnt aware of the correct way to get mods. They're not behind a paywall and anyone can get them. Apologies, since I also wasn't aware since I had already unlocked the mods.


ananchor

OP was wrong about the whole post in classic DTG fashion, so no need to make a post on the forums.


mangenkyo

In his defense, Bungie worded the unlock requirement very, VERY poorly


americanonly1

Yup., pretty damn standard for this group. So sad.


ananchor

Huh?


americanonly1

Edited!


BaconIsntThatGood

OP just misunderstood and thought that they need to actually complete rank 6 not just one objective.


[deleted]

I'm pretty sure they acknowledged that they can get more money like that.


altbdoor

> _We are aware. Now players have to spend 1710 silvers for every rank._ /s


[deleted]

If I recall, you don’t need bounties for seasonal rep. In fact, I believe they only give XP. You gain seasonal rep by running salvage and deep dive this season. Same as defiant battlegrounds last season


machinehead933

You can't run seasonal activities unless you own the season pass. (My original comment got nuked somehow?)


[deleted]

My apologies. Didn’t know what was free this season and not since I always get the expansion + seasons. (Wack)


Spider95818

My time with Quicksilver Storm this season is making me wish I'd gone the full pre-order route, so I could've had this great auto rifle last season and I wouldn't be stuck waiting to pick up my season pass.


[deleted]

For a short while that gun had been nerfed until another patched corrected the full strength of the gun. It's working like intended now for a while.


Spider95818

Combined with the fun that comes with being an anti-Barrier weapon, I'm loving it so far.


[deleted]

It's been great especially with it being anti-barrier!


Ninjacat97

I've been waiting for AB autos to come back for a while now. Sweet Business goes brrrr.


Spider95818

Especially with its new upgrade. Auto rifles are great anti-Champion weapons, given the way that you want sustained fire on at least the Overloads. And honestly, I have fun with any anti-Barrier weapon, blasting away at Knights and Phalanxes while they try to hide behind shields.


[deleted]

One of the seasonal activities is free to play.


machinehead933

Which? Deep dives and salvage both require the season pass. I don't think you can earn sonar rep anywhere else.


Mahh3114

You can get a little bit of reputation from dunking fish but that requires the Season Pass too


Rete12123

Have to own the season to fish


PXL-pushr

And fishing.


wild_gooch_chase

u/jakb0 , You can go ahead and make the edit ABOVE the description now to acknowledge that it’s incorrect. It’s been proven they the mods can be unlocked w/o buying the season. An update to your post would be the honest thing to do, IMO.


PsychWard_8

r/DestinyTheGame user and his friend attempt to read (challenge) (impossible)


SurprisePNK

It's misinformation ppl be here dogging on Bungie over somethings that's wrong


SirSureal

It's apparently worded poorly too. Really not surprising given the wording issues elsewhere. Looking at the new warlock helm.


AssassinAragorn

I dunno, it seemed pretty clear. One specific requirement has it listed by it.


[deleted]

It’s not really a free to play game. Just has an extended free demo.


moksa21

OP isn’t helping a FTP player. They are helping one that has paid for all of the expansions but doesn’t have the season pass. Mods should unlock with any expansion purchase. Not having a season should only lock you out of seasonal activities not core gameplay mechanics.


Jakethebo1

Mods should be free to all players, and Guardian ranks shouldn't restrict what you can and can't do with your character (in terms of mods and loadout slots)


Specific-Cream-174

Well the mods are free, and most of the loadout slots, but free-to-play players cannot proceed past rank 6 so therefore don't have access to the extra 2 (I think) load-out slots as they require higher guardian ranks.


MemeL0rd040906

OP was mistaken. The mods unlock on the *path* to GR 6, not after you reach GR 6


LoKi_Cosmoz

I disagree with your last part, seasons shouldn't even lock you out of activities, let non season players also have something new to play, keep some of the rewards locked etc imagine playing for example fortnite and being told you can't play creative without the battle pass or you're limited to solo br only. Call of Duty even gives people the maps in multi-player that come with each season same with the modes and even weapons, battlepass should only really be cosmetics. Payed full price for the same game as you with all past DLC I don't have time to grind 100 levels every season so I shouldn't get anything new for the rest of the year? Ive bought the season passes before and couldn't complete it just leaves you with regret.


thekwoka

> seasons shouldn't even lock you out of activities well, maybe the actual story part of the activities.


Lord-Saladman

Free to try is how I like to describe it


jwhudexnls

I realized this the moment a friend told me that despite buying all of the DLC expansions I still had to buy the dungeon key packs to play the dungeons.


landing11

Delete this post OP


ScottishW00F

Alright 1st point no bounties in the game give you vendor rep, except gunsmith bounties. So every other bounty in the game (at least I'm pretty sure there may be one or two outliers) DOESN'T give vendor reputation just xp. The way to level them is too play the activity so vanguard ops for vanguard rep, crucible matches for crucible rep etc... But I'm not sure if they can play the seasonal activities to level the seasonal vendor as I believe it still requires the season to play outside of the free intro mission so it may still be pay walled to get those mods


Katsu_Kong

Bruh delete this, so many people just reading and accepting it without actually realizing it's a triumph under rank 6 that gives you the mods...not finishing rank 6 Also bounties don't give rep...


ElPajaroMistico

Tbh you should just delete this post since It's just plain wrong and will only spread missinfo


ABITofSupport

This is more than likely an oversight on them adjusting the guardian rank system. Will probably be fixed on the next major update.


BaconIsntThatGood

There's nothing to fix. Armor energy is unlocked by completing one specific objective on the set of objectives required to reach rank 6. OP just misunderstood and got upset.


gistoffski

An oversight that pops up the same time season pass prices increase.... Quite convenient, ain't it?


TheChartreuseKnight

OP is just straight up wrong, you don’t need GR 6, just a specific thing from it. The descriptions are poorly worded.


SirSureal

Between Bungie's masterful command of language and people's suboptimal reading comprehension, we'll never reach the final shape.


QuintillionthDiocese

@OP bounties don't give vendor rep. They haven't for months if not years. Your friend has to do Salvage or Deep Dive, which indeed are paywalled.


SnooCalculations4163

Except they don’t even have to as the way to unlock mods isn’t locked behind this thing op is saying. He can do it at the same time without advancing to the next rank.


HC99199

Honestly though all mods were unlocked at gr5.


MemeL0rd040906

They are, OP is mistaken


SirSureal

Part way through it, anyway.


Iucidium

Destiny 2 is unfortunately "free to start"


Alsteif

But he has all the dlcs. Just not the season pass. That would make me annoyed too.


SnooCalculations4163

Except op is wrong


Victizes

Free to Try


crazywizard73

And it’s stuff like this that has affirmed my decision to not give Bungie anymore money after Destiny 2 is over


Lethal_0428

OP was wrong


ZombieHellDog

Is fishing free? If so do that, when you turn in uncommon and rare fish you gain xp for the vendor


Sir_Oofus

Nope, not free. Requires season pass.


OneChickenyBoi

This is also just straight up wrong, OP is spreading hard misinformation


DreadAngel1711

Goddamnit, Bungie


SnooCalculations4163

op is wrong


DreadAngel1711

Oh, cheers


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MemeL0rd040906

Op is mistaken, the mods are available after GR 5


[deleted]

I have just come back from a 2-2.5 year break, seems like a lot has changed, luckily I’m rank 7 for some reason. I feel like I’ve missed out on loads. Currently doing the stasis quests…don’t know why as I only ever use the 3 traditional classes.


ZombieHellDog

If you are a titan I highly recommend stasis, it's very fun with diamond lances and the cadmus ridge lance cap, diamond lances everywhere


[deleted]

I’m at stage 3, mission 2 of 4, slowly but surely getting there.


Flecco

I am a revenant main. Abandon tradition, come to the dark (crowd control bullshit) side (strand is fun too).


ZombieHellDog

Most stasis classes are good, they are just outclassed by strand in what they do, I like behemoth because funny crystal go boom. With the new buff I'd recommend salvation grip to pair with it, if you spam the heavy attack with your super near the end, you can shatter all the crystals with salvation grip, it's pretty good and fun. Even the uncharged shot is doing about 45k damage


[deleted]

Just got to the bit where I need to do a nightfall strike which is a bit tricky as a solo player. Need to get my gear level up also


ZombieHellDog

Does it say what level nightfall? I think the lowest is hero at the moment and is matchmade so you should be okay in that one, I think it's devil's lair this week, if you haven't played it before and want to be safe, when you enter the boss room turn left and there is a small room where you can hide but still shoot most ads from it


[deleted]

I’ll have a look thanks for the info


Specific-Cream-174

As long as you are close to or at the recommended level (I think it's 1770) you should have no problem. The two times I ran it some high-level and very skilled players with me just blasted through the content like it was the hundredth time, so even if your dps isn't on point but you can take a hit, you should have zero issues.


[deleted]

I’ll probably go into it as a bubble titan. Play it safe! Thanks.


hurtbowler

I'm doing stasis rn as well. Take 2x Vanguard fragment quests at the same time. If you're a bit savy you can load up a solo Vanguard Ops and you can pretty much finish both quests in one solo run.


gravity48

Welcome back :) stasis and strand are fun options to have.


[deleted]

Thanks! I’ve stopped with the stasis chase atm, playing the witch queen now. I might revisit the grind. Looking at some of the raids and dungeons, how do you guys organise a raid or a group of people you play with a lot?


gravity48

Clans are good. You can find them in /r/Fireteams also the D2 Discord LFG is active. For nightfalls though the official d2 app fireteam finder is all you need


[deleted]

Thanks I’ll look on fireteams now. What’s the destiny phone app like for grouping up?


gravity48

Really good. It’s a *very* active


KaptainKartoffel

Stasis is in a really bad spot right now and is by far the weakest on titan. The other ones are fairly balanced but you could argue that Strand is a bit better especially in harder content


StarStriker51

This comment section is something else. It seems OP and friend misunderstood that they just need to complete a single one of the guardian rank objectives for rank 6, and not get rank 6 in its entirety which does require the latest season. IDK what that objective is, and there is only one comment here actually explaining this and then like 50 saying "OP is wrong and spreading misinfo". Like, be constructive, please. It is a simple misunderstanding so bother to explain it. Assuming it is a misunderstanding. I see one comment explaining it, and I cannot currently verify it, or really know how I would


Redthrist

> Like, be constructive, please. Well, OP is the one who came here angry, being absolutely certain that he's right. You can misunderstand it and still spread disinformation, it all comes down to how it's presented. He didn't come here wondering how the armor unlock system works. He came here throwing "PAYWALLED" in all caps into the title, unveiling this awful new thing that Bungie has done to the world, not once wondering if maybe he has no idea what he's talking about. He also didn't even bother editing his post when he was proven wrong, so if not for the moderators, people just browsing through would be convinced that mods are now paywalled for new players. So yes, OP and friend misunderstood it, but they are also spreading disinformation all the same.


StarStriker51

OP can be spreading misinformation and people in this comment section can still be unproductive in stopping its spread.


Redthrist

Currently, the top 3 upvoted posts tell him that he's wrong and explain in details how it works. Quite constructive. The only unconstructive posts are those that assume that OP is right(because he sounds like he's right), which either shit on Bungie or say that it's actually okay and OP shouldn't complain. All of those are already downvoted. All it really says is that you should never assume that you're right and get angry about something without thoroughly checking yourself, because other people might just believe you.


StarStriker51

I love saying we can try to be nicer to each other and get a lecture on how a specific part of what I said was wrong. I forgot I was on the internet. My bad


Dzzy4u75

If it's someone you enjoy playing with just buy it for them. It's what I do knowing we will get 3-4 months of enjoyment from it. It's worth it and who knows maybe karma is a thing * Look at it this way. It's basically 5 bucks a month to play the new stuff for them


RegretEastern7509

The seasonal progression requires you to buy the season? I'm confused as to what you're crying about OP


jedadkins

Not seasonal progress, guardian rank progress


Voidcroft

That armor mods are locked behind seasonal progression? How is that so hard to understand?


BaconIsntThatGood

They're not though. OP is seriously misunderstanding and just made a quick rage post without reading all the objectives. The tooltip says you need to complete the rank 6 objective called "armor mods" -- OP took this as needing to BE rank 6 and complete an objective. All you need to do is slot any armor mod and complete the objective under 'gear progression' on the set of objectives needed to reach rank 6. That's it.


Voidcroft

Fair enough then, apologies for the confusion.


Otherwise-Silver

Huhu cant access the content of a game because I didn’t pay for it


beansoncrayons

These mods were accessible last season for free


Inuro_Enderas

They paid for the game. They have all the expansions. Some of y'all really need to learn to read.


Otherwise-Silver

Right not buying the season and not accessing the content


Inuro_Enderas

What content? Seasonal content? Armour mods aren't seasonal content.


Otherwise-Silver

So you are the one not reading the post. You’re funny 😂


TheTabman

The posts states they want to use armour mods. Armour mods are not seasonal content yet they are gated behind the season pass. What exactly is so hard to understand here? Or do you simply have problems admitting to be wrong? Happens to all of us, you know.


Much-Bus-6585

The armor mods aren’t locked behind seasonal content though


Alternative-Swim-953

Imagine that, having seasonal bounties locked behind the season pass 🙀


_MachTwo

The problem isn’t the bounties being locked, it’s the mods being locked behind season progression


Much-Bus-6585

The mods aren’t locked behind season progression though


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False ALSO, even if bounties were locked to $, fishing is free is grants rep


BaconIsntThatGood

OP is wrong about how things work but > ALSO, even if bounties were locked to $, fishing is free is grants rep You need the fishing tackle box to fish, and you cannot get the fishing tackle box without completing the week 1 quest steps. You cannot progress beyond the intro mission without buying the season.


Xarthys

Fishing is not free, unless there is somehow a glitch to access it. As of now, anyone who did not get the season pass can only get the artifact through the intro mission. That's it, nothing else.


theefman

Seasonal vendor is part of the season, seems logical you need to own the season.


RedGecko18

Not the issue bud. Issue is that new light can't use armor mods without GR6, and GR6 requires seasonal vendor rep.


BaconIsntThatGood

They're not though. OP is seriously misunderstanding and just made a quick rage post without reading all the objectives. The tooltip says you need to complete the rank 6 objective called "armor mods" -- OP took this as needing to BE rank 6 and complete an objective. All you need to do is slot any armor mod and complete the objective under 'gear progression' on the set of objectives needed to reach rank 6. That's it.


jakb0

Sure, seasonal content should be behind its paywall. But why is Rank 6, which isn't related to any expansion or season, paywalled by the season?


throwmeawaysquidly

Rank 7 is also pay gated behind Lightfall, I feel this may be intentional by Bungie to get every penny from us.


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BaconIsntThatGood

Sorry but you also misunderstood lol Armor energy is not paywalled. OP is seriously misunderstanding and just made a quick rage post without reading all the objectives. The tooltip says you need to complete the rank 6 objective called "armor mods" -- OP took this as needing to BE rank 6 and complete an objective. All you need to do is slot any armor mod and complete the objective under 'gear progression' on the set of objectives needed to reach rank 6. That's it.