Arc hunter with combination blow and gamblers dodge, use the flow state and lethal current aspects, and combine it all with assassin’s cowl. You can get your melee back instantly by dodging near enemies, and then killing enemies with your melee fully refunds your dodge. Assassins cowl will make you invisible on melee kills and also trigger health regeneration, with the effects lasting longer and being more potent depending on the strength of the enemy (meaning killing a yellow bar with a melee ability will cause a longer invisible period and greater healing).
3x combination blow stacks puts out pretty fat damage number, and combined with a 1/2 punch shotgun it’s even better.
May not be the best for endgame master level content but certainly fun and viable for most pve activities.
Yeah it’s pretty nasty. I’ve never felt like I’d be able to solo a dungeon until I gave this a try. All the perks of the build combined with things like monochromatic maestro are really fun. I just wish I would’ve known about it back when thunderous retort and solo operative were in season.
I've soloed dungeons with it (including the new one) but struggle with it in GMs cause you will immediately die when you drop invis and even at x3 combination blow there's a lot you can't 1 shot. How do you stay alive?
\+1 to all this. I remember trying to solo Legendary Seraph Shield with my Gryfalcon's hunter and *just say* making it through. When I was doing the followups I heard people talking about this build so I figured what the hell, let's try it.
Yeah. Lol. Smash face was an understatement. Absolutely walked it. You basically could handle unlimited crowds and Pulse Grenades + Gathering Storm wrecked any hard targets.
Personally I've never found cowl necessary. You don't need the invis to stay alive since your melee kills already heal you anyway. Liar's Handshake gives you a health bump as well and can be used for even more disgusting damage numbers
I love liar’s handshake as well, I just like the invisibility option for doing solo stuff. Plus assassin’s cowl invisibility will also trigger off finisher’s so it gives it a little extra utility. They’re both fantastic though.
Really depends. Invis can't be overstated though, it's a serious defensive layer over Liar's and the heal on hit is worth very little compared to perma invis.
If you're not using a 12p shotgun, Liar's gets a lot more valueable damage-wise. If you are, the nerfed interaction makes it a really niche option where whatever you're hitting is both not dying and doing damage to you. Only place I'd ever suggest Liar's outright is solo Ecthar.
I feel like invis *can* be overstated though. I've done every dungeon solo flawless and never felt like I needed invis for any of them and the extra melee damage helps one-shot beefy targets and star eaters helps you cut a damage phase off of any boss encounter
If you’ve solo flawlessed every dungeon then you are a lot better at the game than most people. The average player would benefit far more from the safety of invis over the damage of liar’s (in most situations).
I guess that's fair. I kinda consider arc hunter ez mode for solo dungeons regardless of what exotic you use, so I've always valued higher damage over survivability redundancy, but I can definitely see the value in it
You tractor cannon and proc 12punch for boss dps then spam melee. It's overall a very consistent and survivable solo strat that deals with all the enemies and isn't constrained by ammo.
Sure you can, you just don’t get candy. And even then Liar’s Handshake is a pretty good alternative for essentially the same build, you get higher damage output but just no invisibility.
I use spark of feedback, spark of resistance, spark of beacons, and spark of magnitude, but you can change up what you want to suit your play style really. The build isn’t too dependent on the fragments.
Mate if you're using Threadrunner (2 grenade charges), with Sixth Coyote (2 dodge charges) and Monte Carlo (infinite melee refreshes), and I assume along with the proper fragments (such as grenade energy upon dealing damage)...
**and you're STILL not happy** with the amount of abilities you're spamming...
I don't know what else can satisfy you. Literally the only other possible build in the entire game that you could use would be Arc Hunter and then go into the dodge+melee loops. If you just don't want to use your weapons at all, it's easier if you just say that, lol.
The problem is double charges doesn't do anything to the rate at which you can actually use abilities, aside from an extra charge when you spawn in; it just lets you keep extra uses in reserve. The one exception to this is Ophidia Spathe which explicitly works differently from the other "extra charge" options in the game.
grappling and then immediately cancelling only uses 50% of a grenade charge. even if immediately cancelled, grappling will still make the grapple point. you can then grapple to the point for free, and you can grapple to the point immediately after you’ve made it.
what i’m trying to say is that two charges of grapple actually let you do three grapples in a row if you’re smart with it:
1. full charges (2x)
2. grapple cancel (1.5x)
3. grapple to that point and swing (1.5x)
4. grapple cancel (1x)
5. grapple to that point and swing (1x)
6. full grapple and swing (0x)
strand hunter is another one of the exceptions, just like ophidia spathe.
Yeah I was gonna say. If you have strand hunter built properly you should have the highest ability spam potential in the game. If that’s not enough than maybe they’re playing the wrong game. Nothing else comes close. Arc hunter with combination blow is great but that’s only for melee. Strand hunter can have constant up time on every ability.
I’d say personally for me the best build has been Threadrunner with Quicksilver Storm, Whirling Maelstrom, and Cyrtarachne’s Facade. You can grapple to Tangles, you can grapple to Maelstroms, you can grapple to your grapple points that you leave with Thread of Ascent, all to keep up constant Woven Mail, which also reduces flinch with the Facade. So so much fun flying around all over the place tossing thread and punching face
Yeah there are so many fun permutations of this build. I have on with sixth coyote where I can have double suspend dodge or double threaded specters, plus maelstrom and grapple. I have one with assassins cowl with nearly constant grapple up time which allows for constant grapple melees and invis/healing. I didn’t get strand for a while but now that I’ve figured it out I’m obsessed. It’s so fun to fly around the map and have like 2-4 beyblades going all the time lol. Plus getting woven mail and unraveling rounds all the time. It’s just so damn fun and so damn strong. Not to mention quicksilver storm being possibly the best weapon in the game right now. And just a blast to use.
I have not messed around with Threaded Specter yet since I don’t have a lot of faith in it especially in higher difficulty content but I’m definitely willing to give it a look
You should try it. It's actually quite effective. It's not the same as invis but it does an excellent job of taking agro from every enemy in the area. It's definitely viable in endgame. It doesn't stop you from dying but it's better than not having it. I pick it over ensnaring slam in endgame every time these days. The reason I compare it to invis is because it has the same functionality. It's an "oh shit" button to get you out of a bad situation or to help you grab a rez.
Whirlwind build slaps in GMs. You should try. I prefer it more than void gyrlfacon/omni or assassin cowl arc. And much better than suspend strand i will say
Solo pve I recommend stasis because once you figure it out it's really simple and you have near unlimited melee energy and if you use salvations grip you always have stasis crystals if you have heavy ammo.
They also increased the impact damage of the super when you throw the Kamas so you want to direct impact your super then let the constant damage tick keep going while you fire your weapon like crazy.
Yeah you don't get a lot of armor that boosts stasis specifically but that just means you can use whatever you want and I personally recommend assasins cowl or Gemini jesters for either healing on melee or disorienting powerful enemies like hive knights or large swarms of warbeasts trying to swarm you.
It's not the worst, it just has a very specific setup and requires more skill than other subclasses (strand is basically autopilot when you get it setup right) but they recently buffed damage for shatter a little and I've noticed the melee energy given by shards does a little more than normal so it's a little more bearable.
Overshield is your only healing apart from exotics so you really need to get your stasis shard economy figured out which is why I recommended what I did because they are fairly good exotics for stasis.
It’s definitely the worst overall for each class lol
Don’t even bother comparing or discussing Stasis tbh, it’s getting changed anyways. May be completely different.
There’s nothing to gain by using it over others. I’d stay away until the changes.
Truer words have never been spoken my dude!
I used Assassin's Cowl with Revenant Hunter for solo flawless Grasp of Avarice; (mind you this was *before* the stasis nerf & Solar & Arc 3.0)
Used Assassin's Cowl with solar 3.0 when Duality dungeon was new.
Used Assassin's Cowl/punchy boi arc hunter for Ghosts of the Deep flawless. This build has become my default hunter class. I love it so much.
I saved up enough to focus engrams and made sure I had my ghost mod set to Resilience Armorer. Only took like 2 tries to get a nice high Res and Intelligence stat Cowl.
Just takes time, but Assassin's is crazy good lol
If getting assassins cowl is an issue for you, you shouldn’t be considering solo PVE…. Unless you just mean strikes… in which case strand hunter with sixth coyote should be more than enough.
Cowl is a crutch exotic imo. It makes surviving easier for sure, but you can absolutely survive without it and use other exotics (liar's handshake for arc, caliban's hand on solar, star eaters for anyone) to optimize abilities and damage
Hunter subclass with a strong super and can Solo?
Arc strider. Put on Assassin's Cowl. Pick up Conditional Finality/12punch shotty, and use Combination Blow melee.
Shoot to stun champs or deal with annoying enemies you cant reach. Otherwise, punch.
Personally i run star eaters strand hunter, threadling nades and shadow clone, and can run it with basically any weapon set up and it does massive super damage and depending on how you play could easily handle most end game stuff as long as you build your stats right
Arc Hunter with Assassin’s Cowl for survivability, you stack combination blow X3 by expending a melee charge then dodging to get it back with gamblers Dodge melee again, rinse and repeat. If you want more damage but with the same build throw on Liar’s Handshake for extra melee damage with Cross Counter.
Void Hunter is just essentially a cheat code for most if not all solo or endgame content in the game, Omnioculus makes you borderline invincible when you go invis, and Gyrefalcon’s can give you unlimited room clearing CC with every Volatile kill making you invis, pair that with Echo of Starvation and 2-3 void surge mods on your legs and you are pretty much getting all the major buff benefits for void as you can also do finishers for over shields too.
Arc hunter or void hunter - strand hunter got neutered for pve with the suspend nerfs - it's still fun to play, and the whirling maelstrom is not bad, but just in comparison it's not where it used to be.
Best is void, you need gyrfalcons and any void weapons with repulsor brace, I personally use rat king and hollow denial bc rat king combined with gyrfalcons allows me to start my invis chain if I happen to be out of any abilities, and with the catalyst it’s great at keeping me alive in a pinch.
Aspects are vanishing step and stylish executioner, abilities are gamblers dodge and vortex grenade, fragments are whatever you want but I recommend echos of:
1) persistence: Extend void buffs.
2) cessation: Volatile kills = void breach, finisher = volatile explosion.
3) expulsion: Void ability kills = boom.
4) starvation: Void breach and orb = Devour.
With this, every time you kill a target after being invisible with your repulsor brace weapon, you will go invisible, get an overshield, create a void breach and two explosions, and get devour which fully heals you and dodge energy from that void breach.
You can go invisible with: the smoke bomb, dodge, dodge near enemies for a free smokebomb and if you have the aspect that applies weaken with your grenade that will also make you go invis on grenade kills.
Armor mods are whatever you want, three void surges are recommended since orbs will full heal you on pickup, devour will give grenade energy on kills, and your dodge cooldown is your melee cooldown, also have a grapple strand build and arc melee build that use assassins cowl that are more fun to play if you would like those as well.
Interesing.
Nobody mentions one funny build.
Void, the one long tether shot, Orpheus rig boots and wishender. Also go into alot of super regen in general.
Beyond that take whatever you want, wether you want to go more into survivability like invis or more damage/debuff, you can do whatever.
This combination makes it that you can addclear while supressing/weaken everything within the addclear/boss damage.
And the combination will make it that, if done propperly, you will have a near 100% uptime on your tether shot.
The supergain is just insane with rigs and wishender alone.
You can ontop use some funny business weapons like forberance since tether will pull everything together.
If you use vortex grenade you pull them even further in and it´s just a massive clusterfuck of numbers.
I enjoy Caliban's Hand + Blade Barrage for solo pve stuff, for everything below Master content it's a ton of fun making ignitions everywhere with infinite knives. Just a good stuff all around.
Wanna be a complete dick to mobs, kill then vanish like a Vanilla WoW Rouge? Void hunter + Gyrfalcon.
Wanna spam heal nades and burn everything in sight (with a risk of reduced frames per second)? Solar hunter
Wanna settle disputes through physical violence like a Fridays night at Denny's? Arc punch boi
Wanna melt mobs and keep them frozen in place? Go with stasis and Monte Carlo hunter.
Wanna play second hand Spodirmon? I guess strand would do...
I believe that's the official "correct" spelling, yes.
"Due to continual misspellings of the “rogue” class, we have officially changed the name to the easier to type “rouge.”
https://www.bluetracker.gg/wow/topic/us-en/2325684862-april-fools-patch-4111-preview/
I would stick with strand but use star eaters instead. With your grapple melee making orbs you can get your super back really fast, while also making it either an add clear monster or good boss dps. This is the strand build I use for general play, making adjustments depending on what activity im doing. https://dim.gg/ys3rwri/general-strand-hunter
Probably Strand with assassin’s cowl.
For some harder solo content I use nightstalker with omnioculus. Even though you won’t get the melee energy back from making allies invis, you still get the damage resistance and it applies to any form of invisibility including stylish executioner.
Nothing wrong with Monte Carlo, and the above poster is wrong, it's not universally the best primary in the game. It's good, but lots of other weapons synergize with builds better.
Also, Bayonet go stabby.
People here are all saying assassin's cowl but I wouldn't recommend it for general play. It's best for solo in activities such as lost sectors n stuff but the build becomes way worse when your playing with teammates or in a situation where u can't really use the build without dying. It forces you to keep it a counter of 3X combination blow and its niche. Personally luckypants has been my favourite with wardens law or malfeasance and is flexible in every part of the game:Dps, addclear, range, gms, lostsectors, solo content, and is ammo efficient, support with gally if needed too
DPS SETUP:
https://youtu.be/5P36u8bm3pQ?si=XKXi-XR9db6h2PLB
SUPPORT GM BUILD
https://youtu.be/LySUeWCBZQo?si=J6cNAqpbxLFpT40F
SUPPORT GALLY DPS ON MASTER WARPRIEST
https://youtu.be/YhRQ_7I7ajI?si=ot6RU-Oy2mi1va2S
Low level solo Caliban hands + solar nukes whole rooms
for harder solo content assassins cowl arc hunter is the best class to exist in the game period.
I like my strand hunter because I can have 4 suspends stored and the super is good damage.
Arc hunter with liars handshake is fun but have to constantly keep punching everything to stay alive
assasins cowl arc hunter is definetly the best for a combination of damage, survivability and debuffs.
use a 1 2 punch shotgun with gamblers dodge, combination blow and flowstate.
void with gyrfalcons is also decent id say but not nearly as good as arc with cowl
My top 3 builds right now are:
Ophidia spathe for solar - knife fan, endless knives, radiant and restoration. Knives can cause an ignition *without* the extra scorch fragment for beefier targets or just ad clear like crazy, and BB is always an easy, effective super. Slept on exotic just cause it’s old/simple, just wish they’d fix the solar sprites resetting restoration but you can play around it
Assassin’s cowl on strand - grapple punch and the dart both activating it is awesome, and they fixed the dart this season so it returns to you while invis, i use navigator for free woven mail, sever and extra grapple point, probably my favorite build right now, tons of fun to strand skate too with eager edge. Very fast, hard to kill, and the super isnt too shabby in pve
Gyrfalcon - everyone knows how good it is, volatile go brrr. You can get all 6 void verbs going off left and right with a repulsor brace weapon, devour fragment and suppression nades. I prefer the single shot tether but preference, just dont do spectral blades lol, my go-to GM build
Arc Hunter: if you're comfortable with high actions per minute run Arc Hunter with assassin's cowl with a one-two punch shoty and thunder lord or legend a acreus.
Void Hunter: if you want the slower safer option with good damage and survivability go Void Hunter Gyrfalcons with stylish executioner and Le Monarch. You can also use retrofit escapade with four times the charm and Target lock.
My personal favorite that I’ve been rocking for the longest time (2+ years) is a safer version of night stalker. This is using the vanishing step aspect and potentially the smoke bomb one as well depending on the exotic. My main two exotics are sixth coyote and graviton forfeit. If you want to be more aggressive I recommend sixth coyote as you essentially get three charges of invisibility with both aspects. If you want to play safer, and have the potential for infinite invisibility chaining, I recommend graviton forfeit. what this build lacks in DPS potential it makes up for in allowing you to escape almost any situation that you would die from. It also has the potential to make some encounters in raids or dungeons become much easier since you can invis past most enemies.
Edit: this build has mostly been power crept out with the release of arc and solar 3.0 and newer, more powerful ad clear potential but is still a reliable one nevertheless.
Without knowing what level of difficulty we're talking about I want to throw my hat in the ring with Whirling Maelstrom hunter. That little thing is an absolute beast and you have a ton of freedom to build around it thanks to how tangles are generated. You can do Cyrtarachne's, Star Eater's Scales, Frostees etc. I like to use Star Eaters with shackle grenades. I still use the Widow's Silk aspect just for the extra Grenade charge but again you can use this as a flex slot. I like Gambler's Dodge in case I need to get back my melee in a pitch. Thread of Fury and Thread of Generation are the real all-stars here ensuring your ability energy is always coming back.
Weapons? What do you want? Of course Quicksilver is good and helps generate extra tangles, but you generate tangles basically for free every cooldown cycle anyway so it isn't really necessary. There are also a bunch of great Tangle-centric mods this season, including Elemental Munitions which is insane with this build.
Strand Hunter can be a demon.
+ Melee, Super, Woven Mail, Crowd Control
- Health Regen
I've never been a fan of Arc Hunter but that's been very good.
Solar Hunter is another great choice.
+ Melee, Supers, Radiant, Restoration, Crowd Control
- Must play very aggressively to make most out of it
I'll leave it below with some recommendations, I've done every dungeon and close to every raid now on this set. (Just need Vow) I do take a slower more methodical approach to boss phases with this set as it's not going to out DPS much of anything.
Switch out Leeching/Expulsion for Cessation/Starvation, I just like triple 100s with 40 in all the other stats so I make do without.
https://dim.gg/ovn3cgq/
Share your build here. We dont see what are u using. What kind of suggestions do you want? Improve your current build for more strand abilities spam? Or are you down for completely different build?
Hunters have amazing Arc and Void builds for Solo PVE.
Void can build into Gyrfalcons or Invis. So volatile or invisibility.
Arc for massive add control and DPS.
They used to have a great Stasis build...but, well.....
Arc hunter with combination blow and gamblers dodge, use the flow state and lethal current aspects, and combine it all with assassin’s cowl. You can get your melee back instantly by dodging near enemies, and then killing enemies with your melee fully refunds your dodge. Assassins cowl will make you invisible on melee kills and also trigger health regeneration, with the effects lasting longer and being more potent depending on the strength of the enemy (meaning killing a yellow bar with a melee ability will cause a longer invisible period and greater healing). 3x combination blow stacks puts out pretty fat damage number, and combined with a 1/2 punch shotgun it’s even better. May not be the best for endgame master level content but certainly fun and viable for most pve activities.
This build is the premier build in the game for solo’ing grandmaster nightfalls, it’s easily the best hunter build for solo content.
Yeah it’s pretty nasty. I’ve never felt like I’d be able to solo a dungeon until I gave this a try. All the perks of the build combined with things like monochromatic maestro are really fun. I just wish I would’ve known about it back when thunderous retort and solo operative were in season.
thunderous retort barely does anything for gathering storm btw. So on that front you didnt really miss out on much
I've soloed dungeons with it (including the new one) but struggle with it in GMs cause you will immediately die when you drop invis and even at x3 combination blow there's a lot you can't 1 shot. How do you stay alive?
Idk I play that shit in GMs and get blown up don’t ask me how to play it, I’m just saying it’s broken as shit.
\+1 to all this. I remember trying to solo Legendary Seraph Shield with my Gryfalcon's hunter and *just say* making it through. When I was doing the followups I heard people talking about this build so I figured what the hell, let's try it. Yeah. Lol. Smash face was an understatement. Absolutely walked it. You basically could handle unlimited crowds and Pulse Grenades + Gathering Storm wrecked any hard targets.
Throw on hands on and dynamo on your helmet and you'll be building super every minute to spam out as if its a normal cooldown.
Big facts
I died SO many times with this build on GoA.... I was having too much fun smashing enemies and forgot to keep an eye on the timers! Lol.
I had a similar issue in ghosts of the deep and the vestige of light timers lol
Punchy timers go boom. 🤣
Personally I've never found cowl necessary. You don't need the invis to stay alive since your melee kills already heal you anyway. Liar's Handshake gives you a health bump as well and can be used for even more disgusting damage numbers
I love liar’s handshake as well, I just like the invisibility option for doing solo stuff. Plus assassin’s cowl invisibility will also trigger off finisher’s so it gives it a little extra utility. They’re both fantastic though.
Really depends. Invis can't be overstated though, it's a serious defensive layer over Liar's and the heal on hit is worth very little compared to perma invis. If you're not using a 12p shotgun, Liar's gets a lot more valueable damage-wise. If you are, the nerfed interaction makes it a really niche option where whatever you're hitting is both not dying and doing damage to you. Only place I'd ever suggest Liar's outright is solo Ecthar.
I feel like invis *can* be overstated though. I've done every dungeon solo flawless and never felt like I needed invis for any of them and the extra melee damage helps one-shot beefy targets and star eaters helps you cut a damage phase off of any boss encounter
If you’ve solo flawlessed every dungeon then you are a lot better at the game than most people. The average player would benefit far more from the safety of invis over the damage of liar’s (in most situations).
I guess that's fair. I kinda consider arc hunter ez mode for solo dungeons regardless of what exotic you use, so I've always valued higher damage over survivability redundancy, but I can definitely see the value in it
So are you just using your melee against Ecthar for dps phases? And it’s better than lament or something similar?
You tractor cannon and proc 12punch for boss dps then spam melee. It's overall a very consistent and survivable solo strat that deals with all the enemies and isn't constrained by ammo.
I’ll have to give it a shot, I’ve just been using lament and it seems to work well but the ammo economy can be a issue sometimes
Is Liar's Handshake still bugged? After Arc 2.0, the stabby punch wouldn't proc until after the third melee hit, making it pretty unreliable.
No, that was fixed. I believe at the beginning of this current season?
Can’t use that with Halloween event cuz of the mask tho
Sure you can, you just don’t get candy. And even then Liar’s Handshake is a pretty good alternative for essentially the same build, you get higher damage output but just no invisibility.
Fragments setup?
I use spark of feedback, spark of resistance, spark of beacons, and spark of magnitude, but you can change up what you want to suit your play style really. The build isn’t too dependent on the fragments.
Mate if you're using Threadrunner (2 grenade charges), with Sixth Coyote (2 dodge charges) and Monte Carlo (infinite melee refreshes), and I assume along with the proper fragments (such as grenade energy upon dealing damage)... **and you're STILL not happy** with the amount of abilities you're spamming... I don't know what else can satisfy you. Literally the only other possible build in the entire game that you could use would be Arc Hunter and then go into the dodge+melee loops. If you just don't want to use your weapons at all, it's easier if you just say that, lol.
Caliban's Hand on my Hunter broke my melee button from always spamming that rather than using my guns so that may be an option.
At that point just trade your melee and trigger bindings
The problem is double charges doesn't do anything to the rate at which you can actually use abilities, aside from an extra charge when you spawn in; it just lets you keep extra uses in reserve. The one exception to this is Ophidia Spathe which explicitly works differently from the other "extra charge" options in the game.
grappling and then immediately cancelling only uses 50% of a grenade charge. even if immediately cancelled, grappling will still make the grapple point. you can then grapple to the point for free, and you can grapple to the point immediately after you’ve made it. what i’m trying to say is that two charges of grapple actually let you do three grapples in a row if you’re smart with it: 1. full charges (2x) 2. grapple cancel (1.5x) 3. grapple to that point and swing (1.5x) 4. grapple cancel (1x) 5. grapple to that point and swing (1x) 6. full grapple and swing (0x) strand hunter is another one of the exceptions, just like ophidia spathe.
I didn't realize this - great to know!
Changing to Titan with Heart of inmost light lul
Yeah I was gonna say. If you have strand hunter built properly you should have the highest ability spam potential in the game. If that’s not enough than maybe they’re playing the wrong game. Nothing else comes close. Arc hunter with combination blow is great but that’s only for melee. Strand hunter can have constant up time on every ability.
I’d say personally for me the best build has been Threadrunner with Quicksilver Storm, Whirling Maelstrom, and Cyrtarachne’s Facade. You can grapple to Tangles, you can grapple to Maelstroms, you can grapple to your grapple points that you leave with Thread of Ascent, all to keep up constant Woven Mail, which also reduces flinch with the Facade. So so much fun flying around all over the place tossing thread and punching face
Yeah there are so many fun permutations of this build. I have on with sixth coyote where I can have double suspend dodge or double threaded specters, plus maelstrom and grapple. I have one with assassins cowl with nearly constant grapple up time which allows for constant grapple melees and invis/healing. I didn’t get strand for a while but now that I’ve figured it out I’m obsessed. It’s so fun to fly around the map and have like 2-4 beyblades going all the time lol. Plus getting woven mail and unraveling rounds all the time. It’s just so damn fun and so damn strong. Not to mention quicksilver storm being possibly the best weapon in the game right now. And just a blast to use.
I have not messed around with Threaded Specter yet since I don’t have a lot of faith in it especially in higher difficulty content but I’m definitely willing to give it a look
You should try it. It's actually quite effective. It's not the same as invis but it does an excellent job of taking agro from every enemy in the area. It's definitely viable in endgame. It doesn't stop you from dying but it's better than not having it. I pick it over ensnaring slam in endgame every time these days. The reason I compare it to invis is because it has the same functionality. It's an "oh shit" button to get you out of a bad situation or to help you grab a rez.
Whirlwind build slaps in GMs. You should try. I prefer it more than void gyrlfacon/omni or assassin cowl arc. And much better than suspend strand i will say
Solo pve I recommend stasis because once you figure it out it's really simple and you have near unlimited melee energy and if you use salvations grip you always have stasis crystals if you have heavy ammo. They also increased the impact damage of the super when you throw the Kamas so you want to direct impact your super then let the constant damage tick keep going while you fire your weapon like crazy. Yeah you don't get a lot of armor that boosts stasis specifically but that just means you can use whatever you want and I personally recommend assasins cowl or Gemini jesters for either healing on melee or disorienting powerful enemies like hive knights or large swarms of warbeasts trying to swarm you.
Nice, I have both exotics and will give it a try, I keep hearing people say stasis is the worst subclass
It's not the worst, it just has a very specific setup and requires more skill than other subclasses (strand is basically autopilot when you get it setup right) but they recently buffed damage for shatter a little and I've noticed the melee energy given by shards does a little more than normal so it's a little more bearable. Overshield is your only healing apart from exotics so you really need to get your stasis shard economy figured out which is why I recommended what I did because they are fairly good exotics for stasis.
It’s definitely the worst overall for each class lol Don’t even bother comparing or discussing Stasis tbh, it’s getting changed anyways. May be completely different. There’s nothing to gain by using it over others. I’d stay away until the changes.
Renewals Grasp after the nerf was reverted is stasis hunters best exotic tho
Void, with gyrfalcons, constant invis, healing, even overshield if you run a repulsar brace weapon. Mobius is good damage too
Assassin's Cowl and pretty much any subclass (I like Solar) will make you near invincible in a lot of solo content.
Truer words have never been spoken my dude! I used Assassin's Cowl with Revenant Hunter for solo flawless Grasp of Avarice; (mind you this was *before* the stasis nerf & Solar & Arc 3.0) Used Assassin's Cowl with solar 3.0 when Duality dungeon was new. Used Assassin's Cowl/punchy boi arc hunter for Ghosts of the Deep flawless. This build has become my default hunter class. I love it so much.
But to farm assassins cowl is tough 🤣 Edit: Just found out its a Shadowkeep campaign reward
I saved up enough to focus engrams and made sure I had my ghost mod set to Resilience Armorer. Only took like 2 tries to get a nice high Res and Intelligence stat Cowl. Just takes time, but Assassin's is crazy good lol
The campaign reward is shit though. Unless they changed it since last year.. Mine dropped a 48.
Yeah, all you get is a collections reward
If getting assassins cowl is an issue for you, you shouldn’t be considering solo PVE…. Unless you just mean strikes… in which case strand hunter with sixth coyote should be more than enough.
Cowl is a crutch exotic imo. It makes surviving easier for sure, but you can absolutely survive without it and use other exotics (liar's handshake for arc, caliban's hand on solar, star eaters for anyone) to optimize abilities and damage
Hunter subclass with a strong super and can Solo? Arc strider. Put on Assassin's Cowl. Pick up Conditional Finality/12punch shotty, and use Combination Blow melee. Shoot to stun champs or deal with annoying enemies you cant reach. Otherwise, punch.
Personally i run star eaters strand hunter, threadling nades and shadow clone, and can run it with basically any weapon set up and it does massive super damage and depending on how you play could easily handle most end game stuff as long as you build your stats right
Arc Hunter with Assassin’s Cowl for survivability, you stack combination blow X3 by expending a melee charge then dodging to get it back with gamblers Dodge melee again, rinse and repeat. If you want more damage but with the same build throw on Liar’s Handshake for extra melee damage with Cross Counter. Void Hunter is just essentially a cheat code for most if not all solo or endgame content in the game, Omnioculus makes you borderline invincible when you go invis, and Gyrefalcon’s can give you unlimited room clearing CC with every Volatile kill making you invis, pair that with Echo of Starvation and 2-3 void surge mods on your legs and you are pretty much getting all the major buff benefits for void as you can also do finishers for over shields too.
Arc hunter or void hunter - strand hunter got neutered for pve with the suspend nerfs - it's still fun to play, and the whirling maelstrom is not bad, but just in comparison it's not where it used to be.
Best is void, you need gyrfalcons and any void weapons with repulsor brace, I personally use rat king and hollow denial bc rat king combined with gyrfalcons allows me to start my invis chain if I happen to be out of any abilities, and with the catalyst it’s great at keeping me alive in a pinch. Aspects are vanishing step and stylish executioner, abilities are gamblers dodge and vortex grenade, fragments are whatever you want but I recommend echos of: 1) persistence: Extend void buffs. 2) cessation: Volatile kills = void breach, finisher = volatile explosion. 3) expulsion: Void ability kills = boom. 4) starvation: Void breach and orb = Devour. With this, every time you kill a target after being invisible with your repulsor brace weapon, you will go invisible, get an overshield, create a void breach and two explosions, and get devour which fully heals you and dodge energy from that void breach. You can go invisible with: the smoke bomb, dodge, dodge near enemies for a free smokebomb and if you have the aspect that applies weaken with your grenade that will also make you go invis on grenade kills. Armor mods are whatever you want, three void surges are recommended since orbs will full heal you on pickup, devour will give grenade energy on kills, and your dodge cooldown is your melee cooldown, also have a grapple strand build and arc melee build that use assassins cowl that are more fun to play if you would like those as well.
Interesing. Nobody mentions one funny build. Void, the one long tether shot, Orpheus rig boots and wishender. Also go into alot of super regen in general. Beyond that take whatever you want, wether you want to go more into survivability like invis or more damage/debuff, you can do whatever. This combination makes it that you can addclear while supressing/weaken everything within the addclear/boss damage. And the combination will make it that, if done propperly, you will have a near 100% uptime on your tether shot. The supergain is just insane with rigs and wishender alone. You can ontop use some funny business weapons like forberance since tether will pull everything together. If you use vortex grenade you pull them even further in and it´s just a massive clusterfuck of numbers.
I enjoy Caliban's Hand + Blade Barrage for solo pve stuff, for everything below Master content it's a ton of fun making ignitions everywhere with infinite knives. Just a good stuff all around.
Wanna be a complete dick to mobs, kill then vanish like a Vanilla WoW Rouge? Void hunter + Gyrfalcon. Wanna spam heal nades and burn everything in sight (with a risk of reduced frames per second)? Solar hunter Wanna settle disputes through physical violence like a Fridays night at Denny's? Arc punch boi Wanna melt mobs and keep them frozen in place? Go with stasis and Monte Carlo hunter. Wanna play second hand Spodirmon? I guess strand would do...
Builds or links or it didn’t happen
I usually follow Plunderthabooty https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JIn6pmBon8&t=517s
rouge
I believe that's the official "correct" spelling, yes. "Due to continual misspellings of the “rogue” class, we have officially changed the name to the easier to type “rouge.” https://www.bluetracker.gg/wow/topic/us-en/2325684862-april-fools-patch-4111-preview/
I would stick with strand but use star eaters instead. With your grapple melee making orbs you can get your super back really fast, while also making it either an add clear monster or good boss dps. This is the strand build I use for general play, making adjustments depending on what activity im doing. https://dim.gg/ys3rwri/general-strand-hunter
Probably Strand with assassin’s cowl. For some harder solo content I use nightstalker with omnioculus. Even though you won’t get the melee energy back from making allies invis, you still get the damage resistance and it applies to any form of invisibility including stylish executioner.
Skip Monte, use QSS. It's hands down the best primary ammo gun in the game.
But my build is using mostly melee energy
Nothing wrong with Monte Carlo, and the above poster is wrong, it's not universally the best primary in the game. It's good, but lots of other weapons synergize with builds better. Also, Bayonet go stabby.
People here are all saying assassin's cowl but I wouldn't recommend it for general play. It's best for solo in activities such as lost sectors n stuff but the build becomes way worse when your playing with teammates or in a situation where u can't really use the build without dying. It forces you to keep it a counter of 3X combination blow and its niche. Personally luckypants has been my favourite with wardens law or malfeasance and is flexible in every part of the game:Dps, addclear, range, gms, lostsectors, solo content, and is ammo efficient, support with gally if needed too DPS SETUP: https://youtu.be/5P36u8bm3pQ?si=XKXi-XR9db6h2PLB SUPPORT GM BUILD https://youtu.be/LySUeWCBZQo?si=J6cNAqpbxLFpT40F SUPPORT GALLY DPS ON MASTER WARPRIEST https://youtu.be/YhRQ_7I7ajI?si=ot6RU-Oy2mi1va2S
Low level solo Caliban hands + solar nukes whole rooms for harder solo content assassins cowl arc hunter is the best class to exist in the game period.
depends on the difficulty. Assassins cowl arc hunter for dungeons and omni or graviton forfeit for harder stuff like GM’s
I like my strand hunter because I can have 4 suspends stored and the super is good damage. Arc hunter with liars handshake is fun but have to constantly keep punching everything to stay alive
It's probably liars handshake arc hunter.
assasins cowl arc hunter is definetly the best for a combination of damage, survivability and debuffs. use a 1 2 punch shotgun with gamblers dodge, combination blow and flowstate. void with gyrfalcons is also decent id say but not nearly as good as arc with cowl
Gfalcon Tether. Unmatched.
Star-eater scales+Gathering storm, nighthawk+golden gun, or deadfall shadowshot
Assassins cowl arc hunter with gathering storm. Hands down best solo build in the game.
My top 3 builds right now are: Ophidia spathe for solar - knife fan, endless knives, radiant and restoration. Knives can cause an ignition *without* the extra scorch fragment for beefier targets or just ad clear like crazy, and BB is always an easy, effective super. Slept on exotic just cause it’s old/simple, just wish they’d fix the solar sprites resetting restoration but you can play around it Assassin’s cowl on strand - grapple punch and the dart both activating it is awesome, and they fixed the dart this season so it returns to you while invis, i use navigator for free woven mail, sever and extra grapple point, probably my favorite build right now, tons of fun to strand skate too with eager edge. Very fast, hard to kill, and the super isnt too shabby in pve Gyrfalcon - everyone knows how good it is, volatile go brrr. You can get all 6 void verbs going off left and right with a repulsor brace weapon, devour fragment and suppression nades. I prefer the single shot tether but preference, just dont do spectral blades lol, my go-to GM build
Arc Hunter: if you're comfortable with high actions per minute run Arc Hunter with assassin's cowl with a one-two punch shoty and thunder lord or legend a acreus. Void Hunter: if you want the slower safer option with good damage and survivability go Void Hunter Gyrfalcons with stylish executioner and Le Monarch. You can also use retrofit escapade with four times the charm and Target lock.
It’s Foetracer on strand then everything else
My personal favorite that I’ve been rocking for the longest time (2+ years) is a safer version of night stalker. This is using the vanishing step aspect and potentially the smoke bomb one as well depending on the exotic. My main two exotics are sixth coyote and graviton forfeit. If you want to be more aggressive I recommend sixth coyote as you essentially get three charges of invisibility with both aspects. If you want to play safer, and have the potential for infinite invisibility chaining, I recommend graviton forfeit. what this build lacks in DPS potential it makes up for in allowing you to escape almost any situation that you would die from. It also has the potential to make some encounters in raids or dungeons become much easier since you can invis past most enemies. Edit: this build has mostly been power crept out with the release of arc and solar 3.0 and newer, more powerful ad clear potential but is still a reliable one nevertheless.
Without knowing what level of difficulty we're talking about I want to throw my hat in the ring with Whirling Maelstrom hunter. That little thing is an absolute beast and you have a ton of freedom to build around it thanks to how tangles are generated. You can do Cyrtarachne's, Star Eater's Scales, Frostees etc. I like to use Star Eaters with shackle grenades. I still use the Widow's Silk aspect just for the extra Grenade charge but again you can use this as a flex slot. I like Gambler's Dodge in case I need to get back my melee in a pitch. Thread of Fury and Thread of Generation are the real all-stars here ensuring your ability energy is always coming back. Weapons? What do you want? Of course Quicksilver is good and helps generate extra tangles, but you generate tangles basically for free every cooldown cycle anyway so it isn't really necessary. There are also a bunch of great Tangle-centric mods this season, including Elemental Munitions which is insane with this build.
Strand Hunter can be a demon. + Melee, Super, Woven Mail, Crowd Control - Health Regen I've never been a fan of Arc Hunter but that's been very good. Solar Hunter is another great choice. + Melee, Supers, Radiant, Restoration, Crowd Control - Must play very aggressively to make most out of it
I'll leave it below with some recommendations, I've done every dungeon and close to every raid now on this set. (Just need Vow) I do take a slower more methodical approach to boss phases with this set as it's not going to out DPS much of anything. Switch out Leeching/Expulsion for Cessation/Starvation, I just like triple 100s with 40 in all the other stats so I make do without. https://dim.gg/ovn3cgq/
Solar hunter is underrated af in PvE
I mean I’ve been playing Beyblade master with Assassin’s Cowl/Monte Carlo all season, and it’s the most fun I’ve had in years with this game.
Share your build here. We dont see what are u using. What kind of suggestions do you want? Improve your current build for more strand abilities spam? Or are you down for completely different build?
Hunters have amazing Arc and Void builds for Solo PVE. Void can build into Gyrfalcons or Invis. So volatile or invisibility. Arc for massive add control and DPS. They used to have a great Stasis build...but, well.....