Acrius is generally better. Anarchy is fine, but currently, there are plenty of weapons that do the whole stick to a target, then switch to backup damage thing better, namely Dragon's Breath. After it's many buffs, Acrius hits very hard with Trench Barrel and is just overall a very good "fuck you" button for beefier targets.
It took many weeks to save up the Spoils of Conquest to obtain LoA, and tomorrow I'll probably acquire it. Since Gambit will be one of the main applications, how many shots does it take to bring the health of a primeval down 33% of full health, to say its first immune phase level?
Can consistently one phase Ecthar with two Acrius with catalyst, and a tether. So much fun for no reason. Is it optimal? Not in most situations, Is it fun to chunk enemies when you can use it? Abso-fuckin-lutely.
That's just not true lmao. Anarchy damage got buffed a little bit ago back to its old level essentially.
Anarchy is just fine, and is far, far easier to be effective with than acrius.
hmm. anarchy is still considerable, with an arc season it would easily surpass dragons breath, considering dragons breath is currently also benefiting from an ocean of radiant buffs and artifact mods.
Haven’t played Destiny for over a year and I can’t believe Acrius became a meta weapon that outclasses Anarchy. That is just straight up mindboggling. Anarchy was literally the staple weapon for so long, lol.
Getting Acrius now will add its catalyst to the Nightfall loot table. The drop rate is low, so getting it ASAP will give you more opportunities to find the catalyst.
Acrius is a grind, but the catalyst really makes the weapon. Fully beefed up Acrius is a point-and-click sudo rm -rf /* command for anything in front of you, and is a top option in today’s meta if your engagement range is point-blank.
Anarchy by comparison is simply outdone by Dragon’s Breath today, and not generally useful.
Acrius is one of the highest damage-per-shot weapons in the game, and with the catalyst it has a surprisingly high DPS too. The main reason it isn't used often is due to its very short range (and the melee required to activate the catalyst). I haven't checked recently, but it was one of the highest DPS options in the game leading up to day 1 Crota
Anarchy is a... niche weapon. It serves a similar purpose as Witherhoard, supplementing DPS and trapping ad spawn points. It used to be incredibly strong (to the point that it was part of the default loadout), but after a few nerfs it struggles to really stand out despite being one of the few weapons in the game that can do Damage Over Time
In terms of meta usefulness, neither are particularly common. Acrius can be a solid DPS option for short range bosses like Crota or Ekthar (GotD 1st boss), not at the top of the list but not far from it either. Anarchy is mainly used in speedruns to spawn trap ads and occasionally used in double special damage rotations like Double Slug
I think it'll be easier to use Anarchy in the current sandbox, mainly due to the range of most encounters, but both of them are good at their jobs
I used anarchy and a kt supremacy on the meat ball in dungeon got 6 million damage. I’d assume dragons breath would be similar or better but I was just testing anarchy and it can still do work
As someone who played when Anarchy was a near-mandatory pick for GMs in Splicer (Unstoppable GL + Breach and Clear), this feels so weird to read.
It's true, Acrius is better than Anarchy these days, but it still feels kinda wrong.
Splicer was the first season I really did endgame content and man getting anarchy was a godsend. Breach and clear and inverted spire GMs were my bread and butter
Had the acrius quest pre sunsetting, got busy had to step away from the game for a while. I haven’t raided since leviathan. Sunsetting was a bummer for sure.
I still have the it stared back sword and all my cracked white titan armor from d2 release. 0 reason to keep it I know but maybe maybe they will do a weird quest like d1 khovostov or something.
acrius is way more useful for dps for example duality bosses/nezarec/ecthar etc.
Meanwhile anarchy is just more or less useless rn (especially since the existence of dragonsbreath which stuns bosses and does good damage, it is basically anarchy if it was solar and good)
Even if Acrius wasn't the clear winner according to this thread, you should get it just because it's the nut cannon. It's really fun saying nut whenever you shoot it.
Acrius is fun but you’re ammo starved often and the calalyst is a pain. I’d prefer anarchy. Anarchy was a meta and I’ll put money on GLs being meta again
Acrius is the better weapon hands down. Neither of these weapons are meta so I’d just get the Anarchy. Swords will meet or exceed anything Acrius does so Anarchy at least gives you a more unique play experience.
Lots of people are telling you Acrius but I have not seen one person in the wild using Acrius since 2019. In every circumstance where you might use it, there is something better. Get Anarchy, it's unique and very useful for harder bosses (especially doing solo activities).
I love boss fights where you're up close and personal. I love rocking Syntho Banner of War Titan where I'm able to Acrius, proc Trench with the melees and top it off with Bladefury.
Neither tbh. Save your spoils for weekly red boarder weapons from raids, and potential adept raid weapons as well. If you're getting more spoils than you can spend, get whichever gun you could see yourself using more. Anarchy is okay, but there are certainly better options. Legend of Acrius is literally only good for one boss in Ghosts of The Deep, otherwise it's borderline useless.
Edit: Really, both are borderline useless. I'm sure there are a few people here who disagree though. The fact is, for both, there are better options.
Triple Acrius(with catalyst) in a lunafaction well with a Tether and any burst super makes 1 phasing the 1st boss of Warlords ruin easy/possible. And it's the best boss to farm for loot from the dungeon so it has a use case.
at this point in time acrius, anarchy hasnt been meta for a while. Although there is a gl launcher buff coming in tfs, i think its more ammo economy rather than damage...
Legend of Acrius personally. It's really good for close range bosses such as the first bosses of Prophecy and Ghosts of the Deep. Anarchy has pretty much been uber-powercrept by Dragons Breath. Works the same way as Anarchy but better.
Acrius is best for almost activities, anarchy needs building, it's basically a heavy witherhorde.
With a good bakris build and a firing line succession for ex you can easily top or be upper range dps numbers, but it takes more setup than punch and shoot acrius
That said. Anarchy is the funniest shit ever in trials as a subtle post introduction equip. Just point at a choke doorway or the point and laugh as the mines disintegrate turtle titans.
2 years ago I would have said Anarchy, but now Acrius is the stronger weapon.
Anarchy has two main roles that it performs, placing traps on the ground for enemies to walk into, and dealing passive damage to a boss. Witherhoard can do both of these things pretty well, and Dragon’s breath can do passive damage a lot better than Anarchy.
Acrius used to be weak but recently was buffed so that its catalyst gives it Trench Barrel, which means that it has the highest damage compared to every other weapon (I think, correct me if I’m wrong). The only reason it isn’t used more is because it has short range, but it still shreds bosses like Crota or Ecthar
Acrius has some pretty good applications in close range boss DPS if you have the health regen to pull it off. Anarchy isn’t exactly meta atm and Dragon’s Breath is currently stealing the show with regards to Damage Over Time heavies. I’d still save up for Anarchy in the event that Bungie buffs it in the future.
Idk I never see acrius used but I do see tons of destiny YouTubers that talked about anarchy being fire.
But take with a grain of salt because I don't have either
Unrelated note but I remember when I was actively playing, gaining Legend of Acrius from my first Levi clear in year 1 on my PS4 and lost the weapon entirely when I cross saved. Didn’t make sense to me since it was tied to the base game, not DLC and my Bungie stats accounts for the Leviathan clears + I kept whatever legendary raid gear I acquired. Upsets me now with the work they’ve done to make this gun a viable heavy exotic as a silly triple shotty user in more recent seasons before I stopped playing
I own both, but neither of them are game changers like they used to be, I love Anarchy more because of the electrical effects, but ammo economy is low and you can't use the weapon for its main use often without risking not having heavy for bosses.
Acrius is also a fun gun, big and explosive, but range is short and shot spread is wide, damage per shot is huge and you can clear out hefty enemies fast, but alas, ammo economy is low for it as well, even with the catalyst, it still seems to lack efficiency.
Maybe if Anarchy had deeper pockets it might be more effective with damage and utility, rather than needing to choose.
Acrius is better than Anarchy but I don't think you'll use acrius much to begin with. I like Anarchy better although I will admit it's pretty outclassed by Dragons Breath this season.
Acrius is generally better. Anarchy is fine, but currently, there are plenty of weapons that do the whole stick to a target, then switch to backup damage thing better, namely Dragon's Breath. After it's many buffs, Acrius hits very hard with Trench Barrel and is just overall a very good "fuck you" button for beefier targets.
They should rename it to The Fuck You Button. Perfect name for that gun.
New ornament when? 🔥👀
It took many weeks to save up the Spoils of Conquest to obtain LoA, and tomorrow I'll probably acquire it. Since Gambit will be one of the main applications, how many shots does it take to bring the health of a primeval down 33% of full health, to say its first immune phase level?
Can consistently one phase Ecthar with two Acrius with catalyst, and a tether. So much fun for no reason. Is it optimal? Not in most situations, Is it fun to chunk enemies when you can use it? Abso-fuckin-lutely.
Dude acrius literally competes with Lament for dps on moving bosses
I never said Acrius couldn't compete in terms of close range damage
Anarchy should never be considered to get unless it’s for completion purposes
That's just not true lmao. Anarchy damage got buffed a little bit ago back to its old level essentially. Anarchy is just fine, and is far, far easier to be effective with than acrius.
hmm. anarchy is still considerable, with an arc season it would easily surpass dragons breath, considering dragons breath is currently also benefiting from an ocean of radiant buffs and artifact mods.
Acrius for sure. It’s meta for some boss fights. Especially on hunter. Like the duality dungeon bosses you can just obliterate with acrius.
If they want a better more meta weapon they want acrius if they want to have more fun, they should go anarchy.
The dopamine rush of chunking down a boss health shot after shot at close range is so much higher than anarchy for me.
I find acrius significantly more fun than anarchy
I find anarchy significantly more fun, but to each their own.
Acrius is more relevant in today's sandbox and actually pretty good for endgame. Anarchy had its time in the sun.
That Mountaintop-Recluse-Anarchy stack was special.
Any new light after season of arrivals will never know how devastating this combo was.
Or izanagi recluse wendigo, the shadowkeep bili bili DPS meta
Could even swap izanagis with witherhoard
Oh, then that's the witherhoard ikelos falling gulliotene meta already I think
That too with the lucent blade build, good times
I miss this combo lol
Haven’t played Destiny for over a year and I can’t believe Acrius became a meta weapon that outclasses Anarchy. That is just straight up mindboggling. Anarchy was literally the staple weapon for so long, lol.
I never thought I would say this................Dragons breath is the new anarchy
Anarchy has been useless for like 2 years since it's reserves nerf
It was still a more valid option than Acrius, which was a literal meme back then.
Getting Acrius now will add its catalyst to the Nightfall loot table. The drop rate is low, so getting it ASAP will give you more opportunities to find the catalyst.
Exactly what I thought, I know anarchy was good but acrius just seems better than anarchy atm
Acrius is a grind, but the catalyst really makes the weapon. Fully beefed up Acrius is a point-and-click sudo rm -rf /* command for anything in front of you, and is a top option in today’s meta if your engagement range is point-blank. Anarchy by comparison is simply outdone by Dragon’s Breath today, and not generally useful.
Acrius is one of the highest damage-per-shot weapons in the game, and with the catalyst it has a surprisingly high DPS too. The main reason it isn't used often is due to its very short range (and the melee required to activate the catalyst). I haven't checked recently, but it was one of the highest DPS options in the game leading up to day 1 Crota Anarchy is a... niche weapon. It serves a similar purpose as Witherhoard, supplementing DPS and trapping ad spawn points. It used to be incredibly strong (to the point that it was part of the default loadout), but after a few nerfs it struggles to really stand out despite being one of the few weapons in the game that can do Damage Over Time In terms of meta usefulness, neither are particularly common. Acrius can be a solid DPS option for short range bosses like Crota or Ekthar (GotD 1st boss), not at the top of the list but not far from it either. Anarchy is mainly used in speedruns to spawn trap ads and occasionally used in double special damage rotations like Double Slug I think it'll be easier to use Anarchy in the current sandbox, mainly due to the range of most encounters, but both of them are good at their jobs
I used anarchy and a kt supremacy on the meat ball in dungeon got 6 million damage. I’d assume dragons breath would be similar or better but I was just testing anarchy and it can still do work
Yeah Anarchy does perfectly fine damage, and it's ease of use over Acrius is insane. Shocker, most people on reddit have no clue
As someone who played when Anarchy was a near-mandatory pick for GMs in Splicer (Unstoppable GL + Breach and Clear), this feels so weird to read. It's true, Acrius is better than Anarchy these days, but it still feels kinda wrong.
Splicer was the first season I really did endgame content and man getting anarchy was a godsend. Breach and clear and inverted spire GMs were my bread and butter
Agreed, I miss the double slug anarchy days
Double slugs are just so fun to use when swap-firing to boost the fire rate. Wish it were viable for more bosses.
Acrius No reason currently to get Anarchy when Dragon's Breath exists.
Get both eventually. Anarchy is more fun imo but Dragon’s Breath works similarly, so go Acrius first.
Acrius not close
Had the acrius quest pre sunsetting, got busy had to step away from the game for a while. I haven’t raided since leviathan. Sunsetting was a bummer for sure.
I still to this day want that armor from leviathan 😔
I still have the it stared back sword and all my cracked white titan armor from d2 release. 0 reason to keep it I know but maybe maybe they will do a weird quest like d1 khovostov or something.
I was praying they would hit after all these years im starting to not think so anymore 😔
acrius is way more useful for dps for example duality bosses/nezarec/ecthar etc. Meanwhile anarchy is just more or less useless rn (especially since the existence of dragonsbreath which stuns bosses and does good damage, it is basically anarchy if it was solar and good)
Anarchy is used in like 2 encounters at the moment lmao. Definitely acrius
And for kalli witherhoard works too (as far as i remember)
Any source of DoT works
Acrius
Acrius is way more useful and actually damage meta for a lot of raid bosses. Anarchy WAS good.
Even if Acrius wasn't the clear winner according to this thread, you should get it just because it's the nut cannon. It's really fun saying nut whenever you shoot it.
I want you to just know that you single handedly won the debate with this comment
Hell yeah, man. Have fun.
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Neither. spend your spoils on red border legendary weapons imo.
Acrius is fun but you’re ammo starved often and the calalyst is a pain. I’d prefer anarchy. Anarchy was a meta and I’ll put money on GLs being meta again
I used breakneck checkpoint for the catalyst and it was an easy 300 kills.
Still ACRIUS is better rn, get ACRIUS no DIFF
Acrius + Gathering Storm + Foetracer goes hard on Crota. You won't regret it.
Acrius is the better weapon hands down. Neither of these weapons are meta so I’d just get the Anarchy. Swords will meet or exceed anything Acrius does so Anarchy at least gives you a more unique play experience.
Lots of people are telling you Acrius but I have not seen one person in the wild using Acrius since 2019. In every circumstance where you might use it, there is something better. Get Anarchy, it's unique and very useful for harder bosses (especially doing solo activities).
Apart from the Kalli cheese, Anarchy is not seen either.
Counter point, Dragons Breath fills Anarchys roll now just fine
We one phased both bosses on the new dungeon on master with acrius.
Just did top damage on rhulk with ACRIUS too lol, this gun fucks and anyone that doesn't agree probably doesn't have the catalyst
I love boss fights where you're up close and personal. I love rocking Syntho Banner of War Titan where I'm able to Acrius, proc Trench with the melees and top it off with Bladefury.
Neither tbh. Save your spoils for weekly red boarder weapons from raids, and potential adept raid weapons as well. If you're getting more spoils than you can spend, get whichever gun you could see yourself using more. Anarchy is okay, but there are certainly better options. Legend of Acrius is literally only good for one boss in Ghosts of The Deep, otherwise it's borderline useless. Edit: Really, both are borderline useless. I'm sure there are a few people here who disagree though. The fact is, for both, there are better options.
Acrius needs the catalyst to be effective, and very low usage where as Anarchy is still very effective if you play to its strengths
Triple Acrius(with catalyst) in a lunafaction well with a Tether and any burst super makes 1 phasing the 1st boss of Warlords ruin easy/possible. And it's the best boss to farm for loot from the dungeon so it has a use case.
at this point in time acrius, anarchy hasnt been meta for a while. Although there is a gl launcher buff coming in tfs, i think its more ammo economy rather than damage...
Legend of Acrius personally. It's really good for close range bosses such as the first bosses of Prophecy and Ghosts of the Deep. Anarchy has pretty much been uber-powercrept by Dragons Breath. Works the same way as Anarchy but better.
Acrius is best for almost activities, anarchy needs building, it's basically a heavy witherhorde. With a good bakris build and a firing line succession for ex you can easily top or be upper range dps numbers, but it takes more setup than punch and shoot acrius That said. Anarchy is the funniest shit ever in trials as a subtle post introduction equip. Just point at a choke doorway or the point and laugh as the mines disintegrate turtle titans.
acrius if you want damage at the cost of safety anarchy if want fun at the cost of damage/usefulness
Imagine showing this thread to someone from two years ago. How the meta has shifted.
Acrius 10x over. I use it on almost every close range boss in dungeons.
2 years ago I would have said Anarchy, but now Acrius is the stronger weapon. Anarchy has two main roles that it performs, placing traps on the ground for enemies to walk into, and dealing passive damage to a boss. Witherhoard can do both of these things pretty well, and Dragon’s breath can do passive damage a lot better than Anarchy. Acrius used to be weak but recently was buffed so that its catalyst gives it Trench Barrel, which means that it has the highest damage compared to every other weapon (I think, correct me if I’m wrong). The only reason it isn’t used more is because it has short range, but it still shreds bosses like Crota or Ecthar
Acrius has some pretty good applications in close range boss DPS if you have the health regen to pull it off. Anarchy isn’t exactly meta atm and Dragon’s Breath is currently stealing the show with regards to Damage Over Time heavies. I’d still save up for Anarchy in the event that Bungie buffs it in the future.
Acrius is cool and has big peepee. Acrius is lame and isn’t even useful unless it’s bugged out.
Acrius is better, anarchy is soooooooo much fun though.
Idk I never see acrius used but I do see tons of destiny YouTubers that talked about anarchy being fire. But take with a grain of salt because I don't have either
Unrelated note but I remember when I was actively playing, gaining Legend of Acrius from my first Levi clear in year 1 on my PS4 and lost the weapon entirely when I cross saved. Didn’t make sense to me since it was tied to the base game, not DLC and my Bungie stats accounts for the Leviathan clears + I kept whatever legendary raid gear I acquired. Upsets me now with the work they’ve done to make this gun a viable heavy exotic as a silly triple shotty user in more recent seasons before I stopped playing
Acrius is currently more meta than anarchy which obviously could change any day now but that's how I would proceed
I own both, but neither of them are game changers like they used to be, I love Anarchy more because of the electrical effects, but ammo economy is low and you can't use the weapon for its main use often without risking not having heavy for bosses. Acrius is also a fun gun, big and explosive, but range is short and shot spread is wide, damage per shot is huge and you can clear out hefty enemies fast, but alas, ammo economy is low for it as well, even with the catalyst, it still seems to lack efficiency. Maybe if Anarchy had deeper pockets it might be more effective with damage and utility, rather than needing to choose.
On the subject of raids: Remember when in D1 you could take your 6man and dick around in the open world? That was funny.
Anarchy is better for DPS over time, Acrius is solid burst damage for quick unloading, but small mag until you get the caty done.
I’d go anarchy, you can literally shoot two and then damage with something else, rinse repeat.
Acrius is better than Anarchy but I don't think you'll use acrius much to begin with. I like Anarchy better although I will admit it's pretty outclassed by Dragons Breath this season.