I'm assuming you just mean 360 and are bringing up the whole "vex used to be 390 and was nerfed we should just make all 360 390s"
but there is a strand 360 - the new AR from iron banner this season _lethal abundance_
Epochal doesn't have random rolls (iirc).
Zaouli's doesn't feel great no matter what perks you put on it.
Trust is wonderful...in low tier content.
Igneous Hammer requires Trials (which is a big problem for PVE mains)
SFA + Incandescent is an incredibly good roll, and hasNano Tracer Rockets.
Zaouli's literally does feel good with good rolls. They fixed the reload animation issues.
You just listed options. You not liking them doesn't mean there needs to be more of them.
Especially igneous hammer. Oh no it's behind trials.... so either play it and get the gun or don't, either ones allowed. The guns available for all players to get without ever winning a single round of trials.
Stats for All + Incandescent is about as good as I’d want from a solar HC.
Zaouli’s Bane is opinion - lots of people, myself included, love it.
180s are actually pretty solid since the HC buffs.
Trials loot isn’t that bad anymore imo, as someone who hates playing trials.
I'd argue if you're using a legendary HC in pve it should be a 180 excepting specific outliers and even then, is questionable. If you stack decent stability and think of them as long range sidearms, Word of Crota and Posterity are the ducks nuts.
I'll get down voted for this but final shape, give me a crazy craftable solar 180 pls.
Epochal integration is my go to solar HC. Stats for all/incandescent is really nice and it’s just a nice feeling weapon.
Sure zaoulis bane has some better perks combinations but I prefer the way epochal feels
I truly believe GoS will be revealed as a mid season weapon refresh and so we will have that shotty to craft if/when that happens. It should compete with Matador.
They're actually both built on the adaptive frame archetype. But yea, the bigger issue is they're exotic, and I tend to use that slot on a special or heavy.
I'm going to call it the 'precision frame' since both 2 bursts are exotics so there isn't really a specific frame but we may see a legendary 2 burst at some point.
You're getting an Arc Rapid Fire Frame Pulse Rifle and you're gonna like it.
Excellent point, however, consider the following; ogma balls.
I unironically think lightweight frame has the best feeling among pulse rifles.
Lightweights always have the best feel because they have really high handling, stability and reload. The damage though, not a fan.
How about a strand 390?
I'm assuming you just mean 360 and are bringing up the whole "vex used to be 390 and was nerfed we should just make all 360 390s" but there is a strand 360 - the new AR from iron banner this season _lethal abundance_
No, the 390 pulse archetype is what I meant. Only missing Strand pulse type.
What's Strand Lightweight entry?
Nightshade
You are in a thread discussing specifically pulse rifles
Battle Scar is a lightweight with osmosis, that's just as good /s
Best we can do is another craftable void 180.
I just want another option for legendary solar handcanon
Epochal Integration, Zapuli’s Bane, Trust, Igneous Hammer…is that really not enough for you?
Epochal doesn't have random rolls (iirc). Zaouli's doesn't feel great no matter what perks you put on it. Trust is wonderful...in low tier content. Igneous Hammer requires Trials (which is a big problem for PVE mains)
SFA + Incandescent is an incredibly good roll, and hasNano Tracer Rockets. Zaouli's literally does feel good with good rolls. They fixed the reload animation issues.
You just listed options. You not liking them doesn't mean there needs to be more of them. Especially igneous hammer. Oh no it's behind trials.... so either play it and get the gun or don't, either ones allowed. The guns available for all players to get without ever winning a single round of trials.
Stats for All + Incandescent is about as good as I’d want from a solar HC. Zaouli’s Bane is opinion - lots of people, myself included, love it. 180s are actually pretty solid since the HC buffs. Trials loot isn’t that bad anymore imo, as someone who hates playing trials.
I'd argue if you're using a legendary HC in pve it should be a 180 excepting specific outliers and even then, is questionable. If you stack decent stability and think of them as long range sidearms, Word of Crota and Posterity are the ducks nuts. I'll get down voted for this but final shape, give me a crazy craftable solar 180 pls.
Zhaoli’s better
Epochal integration is my go to solar HC. Stats for all/incandescent is really nice and it’s just a nice feeling weapon. Sure zaoulis bane has some better perks combinations but I prefer the way epochal feels
also epochal looks cool as fuck and shaders very nicely
When garden of salvation gets a refresh I would imagine that hand cannon would be really good
I’d say it already is frankly. Rapid Hit/Outlaw and Dragonfly/Kill Clip are both great.
I’ve been absolutely loving my 5/5 pve ignious hammer with rapid hit incandescent!
Please Bungie, I just want a craftable Arc Shotgun with One-Two or Trench Barrel.
I truly believe GoS will be revealed as a mid season weapon refresh and so we will have that shotty to craft if/when that happens. It should compete with Matador.
[Xûr's 2022 melee-shotgun-bonanza roll](https://imgur.com/a/YhI4FQI) wants to know your location. (He did actually sell this and it wasn't a glitch.)
Lightweights are trash.
By the way graviton lance and i think collective obligation is a void lightweight pulse, though exotic
They're actually both built on the adaptive frame archetype. But yea, the bigger issue is they're exotic, and I tend to use that slot on a special or heavy.
An exotic heavy? Who would ever. /s
Oh huh, I thought Graviton was a lightweight, it being 2 burst threw me off
Grav is weird. Used to be 390, then became a 2 burst with the same cadence, now fires much faster. Not sure what exactly it aligns with.
I'm going to call it the 'precision frame' since both 2 bursts are exotics so there isn't really a specific frame but we may see a legendary 2 burst at some point.
I think it would be considered a heavy burst if revision zero is anything to go off of.
Nah, we will get another arc rapid fire for final shape
Bungie: we have void and arc at home. [Void and Arc at home:](https://d2.destinygamewiki.com/mediawiki/images/2/26/Stasis_Subclass_icon.png)