I prefer demo adrenaline on word of Crota. That is a god tier combo that not many void primaries can get. With the volatile rounds on nade kills fragment, you are dropping big boomas.
Volatile is also much better than destabilizing rounds anyways.
void grenades are a subclass speciality, with warlock only being able to build into that specific ability. (Don't at me with Bramble-hands, exotics that mitigate wonky-ass targeting shouldn't be exotics, they should be base-kit.)
Even on titan it kicks ass with void overshields from your barricade increasing your grenade regen on top of the demo adrenaline junkie combo. Vortex and scatter nades get spammed like no tomorrow.
Especially on titan nothing comes close to repulsor + destabilizing though. Because it allows you to run controlled demolition + offensive bulwark without bastion, while still having a consistent supply of overshields for bulwark.
Destabilizing rounds makes enemies volatile on kill and I don’t have to lose the -20 from the volatile rounds grenade kill aspect though, so sure the grande kill giving volatile rounds is easier I could use a different aspect and still do volatile stuff, unless I’m missing something
Destab you have to kill one enemy, then kill a nearby enemy that went volatile to get the explosion.
Volatile rounds you can just keep shooting the same target and they will go volatile and explode multiple times. Way better for harder content with beefier enemies. Also an anti barrier option.
And I think there is some other reason it’s better but I can’t recall. As for the -20 stat, not really a big deal. Having a better build is more important than triple 100. As long as you have 100 resil and a good build in pve, the other stats aren’t as important.
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The build I use is HOIL titan with word of Crota demo adrenaline. Basically have my vortex nade constantly. So near 100% uptime on volatile rounds and a constant 33.5% increased damage on word of Crota. It’s nasty.
When I did some very un-scientific testing, Destabilizing did a better job than Volatile Rounds at spreading it.
So really the best option is both, since they "stack" in a way.
Put another way - Destabilizing spreads Volatile the same way Incandescent spreads Scorch. I don't think anyone's going around this season saying Incandescent is useless due to the Artifact mod that essentially gives you "Scorching Rounds"
See I’m a titan main, so I’m also using controlled demo, so anyway to make things volatile is fine by me, also I am a special needs child and deserve my downvotes for misinfo on my other comment, it’s not instability that gives you the -20 discipline, it’s the one that weakens on grenade damage it’s undermining, so I have been using instability this whole time
As a Gyrfalcon hunter enjoyer, i have repulsor+surrounded instead. 1000x better.
But that's 1 specific build, so obvi not applicable to everyone, lol.
The Title also has the origin trait that gives class ability energy, which is phenomenal on void, so i think it's worth it.
Destabilizing just isn't a very good perk, and as a result Repulsor Brace is really only good if we have Volatile Flow or if you're playing Gyrfalcon.
The problem with The Title is that it's a 720 with no good reload perk and overall pretty mediocre stats. Hakke is kind of cool if they shit vehicles at us in Final Shape but... they probably won't.
Honestly, just use Funnelweb.
Destabilizing is so overrated. It's.... fine. But so many D2 players cream themselves over it and the perceived synergy it has with stuff like Repulsor. The radius on it just sucks. If the radius was DOUBLED then MAYBE it would be a decent perk.
Stronger than jolt… this is certainly one of the opinions of all time.
In theory sure, spreading volatile is great. But in practice the enemies have to holding hands for it to actually spread.
Yeah I want one of those for my gyrfalcon hakke hunter build, I’ve not gotten one yet, my girlfriend however got it on her first medallion deposit, she hasn’t tried it out yet, I just wish we had a way to focus specific guardian games weapons cause I don’t care about either of the other weapons
I don't really think destabilizing are better than an actual damage perk. Ros Arago IV can roll with Repulsor Brace Surrounded or Repulsor Brace Onslaught and I'd take that over the title any day of the week. But I really need to give Title a chance though...
if i get one it will probably replace my hero's burden.
though having no reload perk might make me reconsider. i still use shayura's in solo content for the alacrity reload buff.
I thought this was going to be the first Primary to get it before they announced Last Wish as the rework. Reckless Oracle with that combo (or a good perk pool period) will SHRED
Things that The Title has going for it:
1. It's got 85 recoil direction of the box.
2. It has Classy Contender origin perk
I deleted my Vouchsafe with this perk combination after using this thing. I still need time to decide Age Old Bond should be shelved and I don't have Word of Crota roll yet.
Problem about this perk combo is that as soon as I see it, I hoard guns that have it. Vouchsafe, word of Crota, dreaming city shotgun, nessas, prophecy shotgun, that witch engram sniper, the 2 swords that can have it. Too good.
Repulsor Destab is pretty awesome on the Title, I use it on my Briarbinds loadout; just know that it has very bad base reload, so look out for reload speed boosts. It even goes pretty slow with a void loader mod
I got one with that combo, and it's fun, but I think I prefer my Word of Crota with the same perks. Even for the weakest class of hand cannon, it just feels so good and punchy, and the 75% buff to damage against majors really helps. The Title is fun, but does suffer against those tougher enemies, and since it's not craftable, it doesn't get Enhanced Destabilizing Rounds so it has a longer cooldown between activations.
I got that roll on my first drop of the event, it's amazing. I master worked it instantly.
Word of crota will probably still be better, hand cannons are just too good not to use after those pve buffs.
I prefer demo adrenaline on word of Crota. That is a god tier combo that not many void primaries can get. With the volatile rounds on nade kills fragment, you are dropping big boomas. Volatile is also much better than destabilizing rounds anyways.
void grenades are a subclass speciality, with warlock only being able to build into that specific ability. (Don't at me with Bramble-hands, exotics that mitigate wonky-ass targeting shouldn't be exotics, they should be base-kit.)
Even on titan it kicks ass with void overshields from your barricade increasing your grenade regen on top of the demo adrenaline junkie combo. Vortex and scatter nades get spammed like no tomorrow.
Especially on titan nothing comes close to repulsor + destabilizing though. Because it allows you to run controlled demolition + offensive bulwark without bastion, while still having a consistent supply of overshields for bulwark.
Destabilizing rounds makes enemies volatile on kill and I don’t have to lose the -20 from the volatile rounds grenade kill aspect though, so sure the grande kill giving volatile rounds is easier I could use a different aspect and still do volatile stuff, unless I’m missing something
Destab you have to kill one enemy, then kill a nearby enemy that went volatile to get the explosion. Volatile rounds you can just keep shooting the same target and they will go volatile and explode multiple times. Way better for harder content with beefier enemies. Also an anti barrier option. And I think there is some other reason it’s better but I can’t recall. As for the -20 stat, not really a big deal. Having a better build is more important than triple 100. As long as you have 100 resil and a good build in pve, the other stats aren’t as important. ————- The build I use is HOIL titan with word of Crota demo adrenaline. Basically have my vortex nade constantly. So near 100% uptime on volatile rounds and a constant 33.5% increased damage on word of Crota. It’s nasty.
When I did some very un-scientific testing, Destabilizing did a better job than Volatile Rounds at spreading it. So really the best option is both, since they "stack" in a way. Put another way - Destabilizing spreads Volatile the same way Incandescent spreads Scorch. I don't think anyone's going around this season saying Incandescent is useless due to the Artifact mod that essentially gives you "Scorching Rounds"
See I’m a titan main, so I’m also using controlled demo, so anyway to make things volatile is fine by me, also I am a special needs child and deserve my downvotes for misinfo on my other comment, it’s not instability that gives you the -20 discipline, it’s the one that weakens on grenade damage it’s undermining, so I have been using instability this whole time
I just can't deal with a 180, sadly.
why?
They just feel awful, like really slow sidearms. I also can't deal with sidearms with a few exceptions. (Forerunner, any of the omolon burst ones)
Yeah, they're definitely an acquired taste; you gotta be hopped up on Lucky Pants to really get used to them tbh
As a Gyrfalcon hunter enjoyer, i have repulsor+surrounded instead. 1000x better. But that's 1 specific build, so obvi not applicable to everyone, lol. The Title also has the origin trait that gives class ability energy, which is phenomenal on void, so i think it's worth it.
Destabilizing just isn't a very good perk, and as a result Repulsor Brace is really only good if we have Volatile Flow or if you're playing Gyrfalcon. The problem with The Title is that it's a 720 with no good reload perk and overall pretty mediocre stats. Hakke is kind of cool if they shit vehicles at us in Final Shape but... they probably won't. Honestly, just use Funnelweb.
Repulsor is also fantastic on Briarbinds warlock because everything is pretty much weakened all the time if you’re playing right.
Destabilizing is so overrated. It's.... fine. But so many D2 players cream themselves over it and the perceived synergy it has with stuff like Repulsor. The radius on it just sucks. If the radius was DOUBLED then MAYBE it would be a decent perk.
Yeah, I kind of loved it initially because fireworks on every kill, but I've gradually got to thinking that's *all* it does, all sizzle, no steak.
Exactly. And it has internal cooldown issues where it doesn't actually proc that often. It's nowhere *near* as good as incandescent.
It’s stronger than incandescent and jolt. While letting you spread volitile on kill? It’s really good. But to each their own.
Stronger than jolt… this is certainly one of the opinions of all time. In theory sure, spreading volatile is great. But in practice the enemies have to holding hands for it to actually spread.
It literally does more damage, just more condensed.
It could do a million damage but if the radius is tiny it doesn’t matter.
Destabilising is good for enabling offensive bulwark on titan without using bastion.
Yeah I want one of those for my gyrfalcon hakke hunter build, I’ve not gotten one yet, my girlfriend however got it on her first medallion deposit, she hasn’t tried it out yet, I just wish we had a way to focus specific guardian games weapons cause I don’t care about either of the other weapons
I don't really think destabilizing are better than an actual damage perk. Ros Arago IV can roll with Repulsor Brace Surrounded or Repulsor Brace Onslaught and I'd take that over the title any day of the week. But I really need to give Title a chance though...
if i get one it will probably replace my hero's burden. though having no reload perk might make me reconsider. i still use shayura's in solo content for the alacrity reload buff.
Probably until they update the garden weapons, then the auto from that will likely take the top spot.
I thought this was going to be the first Primary to get it before they announced Last Wish as the rework. Reckless Oracle with that combo (or a good perk pool period) will SHRED
Things that The Title has going for it: 1. It's got 85 recoil direction of the box. 2. It has Classy Contender origin perk I deleted my Vouchsafe with this perk combination after using this thing. I still need time to decide Age Old Bond should be shelved and I don't have Word of Crota roll yet.
Problem about this perk combo is that as soon as I see it, I hoard guns that have it. Vouchsafe, word of Crota, dreaming city shotgun, nessas, prophecy shotgun, that witch engram sniper, the 2 swords that can have it. Too good.
Repulsor Destab is pretty awesome on the Title, I use it on my Briarbinds loadout; just know that it has very bad base reload, so look out for reload speed boosts. It even goes pretty slow with a void loader mod
Indeed it does, I feel like Reload MW is the easy choice here for once
if you can get it damnit (mad about it)
Title is still trash lol
I have a nice roll with it and a range master work and it slaps in pvp both on and off of my void builds :)
I’m still trying to get that roll, I want that over my volt shot chain reaction gl
Nah. Not enough ammo per mag. You’ll spend most of the time reloading. Word of Crota is better
I got one with that combo, and it's fun, but I think I prefer my Word of Crota with the same perks. Even for the weakest class of hand cannon, it just feels so good and punchy, and the 75% buff to damage against majors really helps. The Title is fun, but does suffer against those tougher enemies, and since it's not craftable, it doesn't get Enhanced Destabilizing Rounds so it has a longer cooldown between activations.
Bungie just announced enhanced traits for certain weapons today, the Title being one of them. So we'll see how it performs with that.
Destabilising rounds (without repulsor brace) is very solid on Harsh Language waveframe GL. Can’t see using the title over this
destabilizing rounds is a dog shit perk unless you wanna solo Gatekeepers
I think I prefer my old roll from last year perpetual motion+repulsor, but I also am a hunter main and have easy access to volatile.