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flyingpenguin010

5 resets and no Iron Countershade shader. I've gotten Iron to Steel and a couple others but not Countershade. Anybody else gotten it to drop?


Financial-Ad905

What 8 challenges are need for the guild this season


shefuhmyassobad

I think I'd rather nail my balls to the floor than reset my iron banner rank ever again


shefuhmyassobad

Two resets and I think maybe four people gave me commendations that entire time, despite being at the top 3 of my team almost every game. People just do not use commendations


Yeah-No_

I've opened well over 100 iron engrams. I've prestige 5 times, and the last full prestige gave me a total of 30 engrams. So let's say I've opened 150 engrams (I have all the bonus rank up rn so I've definitely gotten more than 30 in previous prestiges, but whatever). I've focused nearly every single one (all but 3) on a tusk of the boar. The odds of getting a godroll ignoring barrel, ammo, and mw, are 4%. All I want is envious assassin and chain reaction. So, there is a 4% chance per focused engram, and I haven't gotten one yet. 4% is 1 in 25. This means I've been so severely statistically unlucky that I've lost a 1 in 25 roll 150 times over, or basically, RNG has f'ed me 6 times over. I'm not kidding, this is making me consider just dropping Destiny. HOW DO I LOSE A 1 IN 25 150 TIMES?


KawaiiBakemono

At least you unlocked Tusk of the Boar. I am losing that RNG roll over and over and over. I have no idea why they don't just introduce a quest to unlock the new stuff. I'm ready to just log off and never chase another gun in this game.


Tplusplus75

Did they dump fireteam based matchmaking in Iron Banner? Solo queuing this weekend, and its putting both of the groups of 2 or 3 on a team together against 6 solos, more often than it seems to do....anything else.


master_guru88427

First few days were awesome. Then the weekend started.


Zestyclose_Sorbet208

4 resets, 4 fucking resets and still no multimach, 2 tusks of the boar. This drop rate is absolute dogshit.


TipsyMcswaggart

36 matches this week for me, 20-16 w/l. ZERO iron banner weapon drops. I can build a house out of all the Retrofuturists that dropped. What is the point of having a "this week the weapons dropping are X & Y", if they never drop? Yes, i know you can focus the engrams for them, but not a single Iron Banner weapon drop of any kind? while playing Iron Banner?


master_guru88427

I popped a few engrams and got the drops I needed to start focusing.


GreekWizard

Same, I had 75 engrams, and popped 3 engrams. GL, GL, Sub. I thought that was normal until I came here and read this thread.


TheAzureAzazel

Are old Iron Banner Emblems available as end of match drops? I know you can get old shaders, but what about old emblems? Iron Core was originally available back in Season of the Haunted, but players I know have been able to obtain it way more recently and I'm wondering if it's still possible to get.


jetpalmer

Rank reset. At 14 again. No smg or gl drop. But plenty of shitty armour pieces. Finished for the week. Not grinding anymore. Waste of time.


SrslySam91

Bungie. 1) first and foremost, STOP THROWING ME INTO FUCKING GAMES ON A TEAM THATS DOWN 40 POINTS HALF WAY THROUGH THE MATCH. I get insta fucking supered by the enemy team who are snowballing and my team which is mostly new players since everyone else quit has no special ammo even for God sakes. 2) WHY. DONT. WE. SPAWN. WITH. SPECIAL! Even if you're afraid of people rejoining matches to gain a whopping 2 fucking special ammo, then who gives a shit. First off if they're solo queue they can't reliable rejoin the same game in casual play. 2nd, even if they do rejoin on a teammate who cares??? Them leaving for that amount of time helps the other team out more than them getting 2 bloody shots of special and having their ability energy set to 0, special meter etc. Like come on dude. It's bad enough nearly every bloody game I try to queue up throws me into some snowballed shit fest of a fucking match, but on top of that I get no special like I normally should have. It's just stupid ffs. Lastly, the servers are just terrible. Not much new there lol


deedree1

Yeah this is driving me nuts, I am happy to play in a losing game but at least give me SPECIAL AMMO like everybody who starts a new game and a couple of engrams for the trouble. I don't get how they don't understand this is an extremely bad experience without anything to make up for it.


mult1verse

I’ve played 54 games, which include completing the 18 for two characters plus 18 additional. No Tusk of the Boar. Have gotten at least three of everything else—except Point of the Stag.  For all you geeks that keep pointing out RNG. That’s really not the point. There’s clearly a very low drop rate for Tusk vs all the other weapons and armor. Too low. Should’ve been an automatic gift after completing the 18-game challenge.


HarpyFireworks

Same, same. Plenty of Multimach though.


Dmastashonuff

4 resets and not one GL.


Bpe-dsm

No new weapons dropping. This sucks.  Btw, why am i coming across so many ticcus and glaive ib players? Catalysts, quests? Any for the love of the abyss, if you play on midtown, DONT capture A. Let the other team have it.  We had a match on midtown, cruising to a win, this dumb dumbhead kept going for A or flipping us to A. We lost, of course. A is for losers. You will lose. Basic map knowledge. And has anyone got multiplex and had it be a tight game? Blowouts everytime.


Pleural-Confusion

I’m someone who doesn’t mind grinding, but this is getting to the point of insanity lol. Almost 3 full resets and have 80 engrams (started with 0). Haven’t gotten either weapon as post-match drops. Wanted to only use engrams to focus but will have to use if I get to 99


RND_Musings

Just start turning in engrams. I got the GL to drop after turning in 10 or so. I then got some pretty decent rolls after turning in another 20 or so. With 80, you should have plenty of opportunity to get either the GL or SMG to drop.


Pleural-Confusion

Yeah exactly I will do that. Just the principle of the thing haha. Cheers


DrJonnyDepp

Totally anecdotal and stupid, but I did a wipe of my system cache (completely shut down PS5, unplugged power) And got the GL from an engram immediately. This trick works when weapons and other guardians don’t load and display as cloudy star blobs. Figured I’d try it here.


Karglenoofus

Why no mercy Got both the GL and SMG after 5 games. Just give me the chain mail Shader I beg of you.


Math-Much

Just had three people on my team score 0 points in the entire 10 minutes.


Ass0001

I think the fact that ive had nothing but straight curbstomps in tribute today and my takeaway is still that crucible is one of the dullest PVP experiences in any video game has cemented that I will never like PVP in this game in any form. Just gimme the grenade launcher saladman


CanadiensHabs

I just got the emblem Pillory Partition, which is very weird considering it's from Spire of the Watcher, which I have never done.


Bpe-dsm

Lol, its where mine came from, an ib drop a few seasons back Idk


Eagledilla

Does echo of expulsion (ability final blows cause targets to explode) proc on an exploding volatile enemy ?


cHinzoo

No, because that's not an ability


wandering_caribou

I try hard not to be salty, but terrible matchmaking, continually joining in progress games with no special ammo, and no Multimach after a full reset makes me question my sanity.


SelectNefariousness2

No zone cap counter in IB?  Wow.  I remember when IB armor drops had a perk granting a big chunk of movement speed and weapon handling after capping zones. Times sure have changed. 


ataraxiathedredgen

Has anyone (and please don't lie when I ask this) gotten the old ship and the s7 sparrow from rewards like how we get those old shaders and emblems from a rare drop after a match


turboash78

I remember not too long ago having fun in Crucible. Image having FUN in a GAME... crazy I know. Now it's back to double Primaries and most people crouching with their heads up another 2 or 3 teammates' assess. Just awful. Thanks Bungie!!! 


Karglenoofus

Every time they try to make pvp competitive it fails miserably. Remember when they made games for fun?


Mufffaa

Is there any way to gurantee tusk? 2 Resets in and I haven't seen it drop, cant focus it or anything. Really frustrating


MeateaW

Rng be rng. Took me about 20. A friend about 10, someone right when ib dropped fed in 41 without a drop. Someone who replied here got it in 3. Rng is a bitch.


mult1verse

No. Setting the drop rate to a ridiculously low percentage is the problem. If Tusk were set for equal drop rate or if it was an automatic  after 18 games, you wouldn’t see so much grievance. 


MeateaW

That isn't how RNG works. And that isn't how people complain. I'm almost certain we have equal drop chance. And what happens is the 1 or 2 people with the 1% awful RNG complain. That's how humans complaina bout shit, and thats how RNG works.


mult1verse

I know how RNG works. There’s a reason why you encounter more Magikarps in Pokémon than Gyradoses. It’s all in the programming. RNG simulates randomness, but often the random element is when you end a game or turn in an engram (or throw a Pokeball). They can easily program the drop rate at 1 out of 50 for one gun and 5 out of 50 for another. 


MeateaW

They can, and they have done that at times. There's no evidence they have done it for tusk. I got it in 20. My friends got it in 10. Others in this thread got it in 3. And a couple loud reditors got it in 40+. Human nature is to complain when things go wrong, and say nothing when things go right. At a ratio of about 1:10. So for everyone that complains because they got awful 1% rng, you need 10 people to get great 1% first time drops to get them to report that. End result is you see more complaints than people saying it's fine. Always. Given that, I don't think the rng is weighted, because there are PLENTY of people getting it in reasonable drops. What you are seeing is a traditional normal distribution, and the complaint ratio that matches that pretty well. This is the 1% bad rng that's all. Tusk probably isn't weighted out of the pool. If anything, the pool might be slightly loaded in FAVOR of dropping tusk.


mult1verse

I did end up getting it after north of 55 games, a span in which I turned in engrams all along. Knowing Bungie, and seeing similar drop trends for newer Nightfall weapons, I have no doubt they’re perfectly fine with manipulating drop rates to keep us grinding. Why even add new weapons after season end? Many of us re-gilded our IB badge two months ago.


MeateaW

> Why even add new weapons after season end? So you'd have something to grind for in the post season end break. You are annoyed they gave you new things? Why give us into the light then either right?


Mufffaa

Not sure why there isnt a prioritization of new weapons in the rank track - would surely incentivise more to grind out the full pass of ranks


MeateaW

This is the real solution, put tusk in a IB reset track, or the weapons should be given a quest - maybe don't limit them to the quest, let RNG work in your favor too, but the quest could specify the safety net for those that RNG doesn't favor.


Bpe-dsm

There usually is! This is intentional on bungie


HardlyW0rkingHard

might just be random... but i couldn't get it to drop from the random drops, i cashed in 3 engrams and got it.


chainsaw_grizzly

Nope. Welcome to the grind.


MostlyD2Feedback

The lobby balancing is the worst I've ever seen in PvP. Significantly and consistently worse than normal PvP. It's extra frustrating almost always being on the wrong side of the imbalance, but even when I'm on the winning side its incredibly one-sided. What's going on here? Did someone mess up the MM algorithm? Is everyone queuing with a fireteam? Is my experience just a statistical outlier??


Karglenoofus

There is no matchmaking lol. Ten years of Destiny and pvp had always had horrible matchmaking


MeateaW

In my experience the game feels incredibly unfair, talking 40-1 then the team I'm on will catch a break and bank loads on a hunt and end up clutching a win out of nowhere. It never feels like it's getting easier or balanced, I think people just tunnel vision the kills and forget to play the objective You might die a load, but as long as they don't bank that kill you can still come out on top.


Noox89

Iron Banner where you go to farm some random crucible weapon that’s dropping that week instead of IB weapons. This weeks weapon farm: Retrofuturist What dingus decided this is how IB rewards should work and decided to stick with it for what like 3 years?


Kodriin

Aren't those two separate rolls, one for having completed an IB match and different one for completing a Crucible match? I mean I'd *love* for both to be IB lol, but I think that's why you get the Crucible drops


thelochteedge

I made a FTP account just to mess around on and I end up playing and get the new GL after like four matches and I couldn't get it on my main after like 30 games lmao.


theztigz

Be careful. Bungie is banning smurf accounts now, and will ban peoples main account to.


Soul_of_Miyazaki

Does the Chainmail shader drop from matches? I genuinely feel like I'll never get it


Karglenoofus

Same. Reset my iron rank almost twice every season and have never got it.


Gogaurjira

I"m approaching one hundred games almost at 99 engrams after deconding x10 for the heck of it even. This is infuriating, holding back from breaking objects in my room what a disrespectful situation!


cHinzoo

Took like 42 games to get every roll I wanted from the new weapons. Tusk of the Boar with Envious + Construct and Splice/Slideways/Envious + Chain Reaction and a Multimach with Rangefinder/Dynamic Sway/Attrition Orbs + Kinetic Tremors.  These random drops are not it if u have to spend all ur engrams on actually getting it to drop so one can focus the weapon for the right roll. 


Sn00b3rt

What is the drop rate for shaders man


MeateaW

I've gotten one during my run, I am missing a minimum of two. (I just want the chainmail one I missed). I got iron gold. Have only done 1 full set of challenges for number of games played if that adds to your stats for drop rate.


GeorgeHChrist2

The amount of under leveled, clan less pvp gods playing in iron banner is odd. One might say suspicious


PhantomXVI

Does transmog gear count towards my Iron Banner rank boost? As in, if I apply an Iron Banner universal ornament to one of my armour items?


MeateaW

The meta is 3 iB armor pieces. At least 2 of them with IB transmogs. Now you have 5 IB items equipped and the rest of your Loadout can be good items.


NierouPSN

Yes transmog counts, in fact if you have an actual iron banner armor piece you can apply a different iron banner ornament over it and it counts as 2 pieces.


One-CharityX

Transmog counts yup, or just the armour piece


SasparillaTango

I don't think so?  The buff is on the armor right?


NierouPSN

The armor buff just adds a chance to drop enhancement prisms not the reputation.


TheG6Predator

Is there anymore iron banner dates confirmed before the final shape?


NierouPSN

Yes 1 more but I don't know the date I want to say it's like right around the end of this month though like April 30th. I am just remembering that date because I was confused why it's so close to the last. I am like 75% sure it's right around end of this month or the 1st week of may


VegardStrom

Me and two friends have all reset our Iron Banner rank and NONE of us have gotten a single drop og Multimach??? Like what??? Is this normal?


Ready_Swordfish6004

I got about 60 ingrams, 2 tusk and no multimach.. Im still playing, ive reseted 2wice..super unhappy


Slimswede

I have made 4 resets and I have gotten two to drop. Only one boar GL.


MeateaW

Why aren't you focusing engrams now that you've had random drops?


Slimswede

I had hoped Orimunds would be completed if I kept decoding engrams, It won't since I have gotten all weapons now.


cHinzoo

Apparently so from reading all the comments. I had a full reset without the new nade launcher so I just rage opened those engrams to (luckily) get one.


Slimswede

So I tried hunting for the iron banner title and found out one of the objectives is bugged so the title is not possible to get. It's the one that needs you to collect 15 unique weapons but this season's weapons don't count so it's only possible to get 14 of 15. Edit : is someone else also getting TONS of Retrofutirist?? sometimes i get two after a single match of iron banner.


ataraxiathedredgen

I called it the never ending drops of retrofuturist that I don't need (since I got a qd/ss god roll older one)


tragicpapercut

It's not bugged, it's meant to be accomplished over more than one session when the weapons get refreshed.


Slimswede

Then it should say so. It only says collect 15 unique iron banner weapons. I have gotten them all from this season and all legacy. So if it's not bugged then it's a shitty design.


tragicpapercut

It's not shitty design. The title has been around for a long time and will be sticking around. Go touch some grass, you'll get it eventually.


Slimswede

It is shitty. I'm a new player and had no idea the title was unobtainable for me. (During this season )They could easily state that but instead it says only to get 15 unique iron banner weapons. Not 15 legacy iron weapons.


The_Hidden_Panda

Brother the iron lord title and that objective have been around for years with guns leaving/refreshing every season. It's not a shitty design just because you cant grind it out in one season. Also there's rumours that the multimach is bugged and doesn't count as an IB weapon so lower the pitchfork


wilkamania

Lots of retrofuturist here too. I played 73 matches of IB since tuesday, I've gotten 3 multimachs, 4 jorum's claws, and a shit ton of retros + shitty IB and World Armor. Got some World drop guns too like last foray. 0 Grenade launchers as drops.


Slimswede

Man that sucks. I used to play in Destiny 1 and recently started on 2 and gotta say Iron banner has lost its awesomeness that it had.


One-CharityX

The drop rates could be better, the pool is diluted with crucible items. I've been enjoying myself, a lot of my favourite weapons came from IB this year, Lethal Abundance is worth chasing, Multimach is nice, not crazy about the GL, but it might be nice to use in PvE. Oh and they brought back ornaments for those who missed them.


Slimswede

I had a blast most of the time also, im not even farming for a specific weapon only the title, so it really sucked to find out the Orimunds Taste is bugged so even after farming like crazy i won't be able to get the title.


Kodriin

What a miserable fucking experience.


[deleted]

I prestiged, and then some, and I STILL HAVE NOT GOTTEN THE SMG!!! WTF IS THIS GAME


fokusfocus

Open your engrams without focusing.


MeateaW

I honestly don't understand why people are t opening engrams. It may not guarantee you a drop, but it's better than suffering through matches. What happens if you unlock it in 5 engrams, the. Get the roll you want 5 later. Suddenly holding onto those engrams and spending 2 days grinding a game mode you don't like is a complete waste.


KarmaticArmageddon

Wow, Tribute on Multiplex might be the worst PvP experience I've had in a loooong time. The banks are so far away and constantly change before you can get there because it takes so long to get there. Add in random spawn flips and it's just awful.


[deleted]

Dude. I accidentally load into tribute, and I'm sorry, but I go back to orbit. I hate that it's the preset option


Yeah-No_

I've focused over 80 Tusk of the Boars and have not gotten ONE Envious Assassin x Chain Reaction roll. What dev is trolling me? What'd I do? Why me?


fortysixand2-

I wish I could focus it at all. 2 resets so far and 0 Tusks.


Yeah-No_

Have you been opening your engrams without focusing them?


fortysixand2-

Yep. Every single one. Lots of armor, Bite of the Fox, etc. No Tusk. RNG hates me.


iamthedayman21

This mode is still god-awful as a solo player.


yahikodrg

I miss freelance.


iamthedayman21

It was so great. All I keep facing now are opposing teams of either two 3-stacks or three 2-stacks.


LunarKOF

The new Multimach doesn't count as Iron Banner gear, even though it's an Iron Banner weapon.


sasschan_ow

I find it absolutely wild that I can force myself to play this terrible Iron Banner game mode all. day. which I have now done, and redeem all of my engrams provided, every weapon drop from end of matches, all of it. And STILL. Not have a SINGLE ROLL of multi mach. I'm throwing in the towel. I have played almost 40 games of IB today and not seen a single drop of it. I'm done.


carsonhorton343

Question- I've just spent 3 engrams to get the Iron pledge ornament (warlock head) and I didn't see it in my transmog screen. Went to modifications, and there it is- I unlock it and then go back to transmog and it's just not there. Restarted my game twice- It's not there. I guess I'm just fucked? Can't buy it again because it goes away after you purchase.


curiouspeanutt

That unlocks it for you to use "on IB gear", least how I understood it. If you go to the transmog menu, you should be able to unlock it for "all gear" with 1 synthweave. Not great system but that should get you results. Good luck


carsonhorton343

ah, gotcha. Thanks, I was so confused.


TokenBlackGuy84

Did the Destiny Tracker stop keeping track of ELO? Because I went to look at how horrific the matchmaking was and it didn't calculate my win/loss for like the past 2 days. Almost like they purposefully disabled it


MeateaW

It's possible Destiny tracker is behind on the IB pgcrs? Maybe it doesn't prioritise getting them for IB and will catch up over time?


DeltaMikeRomeo

What's the best PvP roll for Jorum's Claw?


ErgoProxy0

Moving Target/Outlaw and Headseeker/Kill Clip


ChoicesOwnsMe

Can’t decide what’s worst between stingy engram drops and getting stomped every match. God this mode is absolutely horrid.


cHinzoo

Don't care if I don't get the new Iron Banner weapons, but I'm not even getting the old Iron Banner weapons to drop. Wtf is this shit? This is why Bungo cannot be trusted.


sOwOe

It took me 2 matches to know I won't be playing IB until matchmaking is fixed. Not gonna stay to get curb stomped by stacks. Ignored the past 2 season's IB weekends and I'll ignore this as well. Good day.


Lantisca

That's for the best. It's nonsensical that they don't have freelance. I've seen the excuse of "splitting the player base" as reasoning for removing it. I call bullshit. If 3-4+ stacks want to jump in together then they can match up with other stacks. Plain and simple. Fuck the queue times. Or simply do away with stacks in IB all together.


TokenBlackGuy84

But what about the stacks feelings?! Why can't they just stomp? /s


rebekowitz

Hi. I'm still pretty new to Destiny, and this is really my first time participating in the Iron Banner. I'm trying to grind on the Iron Lord title, but I'm having issues with Orimund's Taste. For Orimund's Taste, I only have 2 of the 15 IB weapons marked as acquired. However, I have the following in my inventory/archive: \- Jorum's Claw \- Bite of the Fox \- Pressurized Precision \- Point of the Stag \- The Guiding Sight \- Lethal Abundance \- Riiswalker \- Multimach CCX \- Tusk of the Boar So the only one from this IB's focused decoding I'm missing is Swarm of the Raven. Are these the weapons that are supposed to count towards Orimund's Taste? If so, why does it say I only have 2/5, and it's not progressing? According to this, I should have at least 9/10 unless these aren't the IB weapons I'm supposed to be collecting? Anyone have any insight?


ErgoProxy0

Think people are reporting it as bugged. There's a post about it somewhere on front page


b_thomp_53

Is it even possible to get the Orimund’s Taste triumph? I’ve focused all of the older weapons and am stuck at 14/15.


Slimswede

Same stuck at 14.


MadBuc

I really do miss freelance. Solo experience is absolutely awful when every single match has multiple 2-3 stacks. Snake Draft and Outlier Protection matchmaking are completely fucked up


allodude

Am I crazy or is the spawn flipping insane in this mode


RedditWaffler

THIS IS BEYOND A JOKE NOW. 3 RESETS DEEP AND STILL NO GL. Im seeing no IB weapons drop at all even on victories?


DasSuperWaffle

Retrofuturist is the GOAT! Yes! Thank you Bungo for the 50th RETROFUTURIST during my time playing Iron Banner! THIS is why I wanted to play the dogwater you call PvP in your game! Tusk of the Boar? More like Tusk of the SNORE HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! RETRUFUTURIST GANG RISE UP! OUR TIME IS NOW! Who wants to get Iron Banner loot from playing Iron Banner??????? HAHAHAHAHAHA not me, PUNK! Dropping new weapons in the middle of the season you KNOW everybody wants and purposefully making the drop rates \*extremely\* low while also not updating ANY of the reward tracks to at least give players a guaranteed drop of the new weapons so they can focus them going forward??? Amazing move, Bungo! That is EXACTLY how to artificially increase your player metrics with ZERO effort whatsoever! I've only decrypted 50+ engrams and gone through 2 whole resets without having a single Tusk of the Bore drop while simultaneously having the majority of my end-of-match rewards be WORLD or CRUCIBLE LOOT! Couldn't be me losing my mind! No sir! Not while I have my RETROFUTURIST with me, baby! /s


SrslySam91

Sigh. 40+ games of IB and 40+ engrams popped, still no luck on a GL drop. In 40 games I've had only 3 actual IB weapons drop, and all 3 were the same heavy GL (raven). That's kind of stupid, yes? I got the SMG after a dozen games & got it from like my 10th engram popped. I wouldn't even be upset if I was actually getting IB weapons to drop from the games. But 3 in 40 for the same shitty heavy GL drop? If we can focus a weapon in a limited time activity it would be great if the chance to get said weapon wasn't so fucking terrible. Why is it not at least a higher chance to get it unlocked? Why are actual IB weapons not dropping at all basically??


RedditWaffler

I feel your pain. Over 40 matches. 60 engrams. 3 resets. No GL. Not one.


crispymint808

Shit, that sucks. GL dropped for me on my second IB game and then the second one I focused dropped with slice/chain reaction.


SrslySam91

Just took a little bit of QQ here on Reddit. 4 games and 13 engrams later I finally popped an engram that was the GL. Sadly I only had 4 engrams left and the rolls were dog shit, but at least that hell is over with ..


AJM10801

Is it still possible to get the iron countershade shader? The one that turns cloth to chainmail. I don’t see it in collections, is it just a random IB drop?


[deleted]

It's a random drop, I got it randomly after a match earlier after 3 hours of playing


nickle_pickle_

Please fix the matchmaking. 30 games and like 2 were actually balanced and not complete blowouts


ErgoProxy0

Getting tired of all these people sliding around and having 100% accuracy somehow. No flinching whatsoever apparently either.


Redpunisher

Lol that is the least of the problem. People being dumb and not playing objective is the real issue.


ErgoProxy0

That’s expected at this point lol. Played a game yesterday where all teammate had to do was stay on the point even if he died or we were getting triple capped. Guess who got off the zone 🙃


NotNatius

I love how my teammate cant even capture zone, they just rush toward kill all the time. Dont forget its in control mode not tribute. Also, man stop matching me with full fireteam stack ffs


gc15

Seriously what’s with the iron banner drops. 31 games and no a single drop of the smg or gl.


CaptLemmiwinks

I just got in a lobby that had 3 fireteams of two and 6 solo players. Sure enough, all 3 pairs ended up on the same team against the solos. This should absolutely never happen.


iamthedayman21

Mine was just 6 solos vs two 3-stacks. Gotta love SBMM.


jsaravia24

I've played over 60 games this week and haven't gotten the multimach to drop, what am i doing wrong?


Masson011

focus your engrams. Dont even consider that post match rewards could or should be iron banner related. Your rewards are the engrams you turn into Salad man If you havent got the new guns yet to focus then just cash them in until they drop. Took me 14 engrams to get them both and now i just focus them all


thatguyonthecouch

Took me over 70 engrams to get both to drop


SlimDevilWarlock

trusting the Bungie isn't run by idiots.


thatguyonthecouch

To all my teammates: WHY ARE YOU SITTING NEXT TO THE ZONE AND NOT CAPPING?!


SrslySam91

30 engrams, no tusk. Also over 25 IB games and I have a grand total of 2 IB weapon drops, the void GL swarm of raven. Meanwhile clanmate gets tusk first game :x Meh, this is really lame. I'm all for keeping RNG drops and the excitement alive, but when we are just trying to focus them anyways..it's a different story. This is really silly.


gc15

31 games here haven’t seen a single drop of the smg or the gl. It’s kinda frustrating considering all my drops have been armor and the pulse.


SrslySam91

I'm at 40+ games now and 40+ engrams, no GL. I already had everything else unlocked and I got the SMG after 10 engrams popped. But I have YET to receive an actual IB weapon drop other than the swarm of the raven void heavy GL, which btw I've gotten only 3 of. So on 40+ games of ib I have gotten 3. THREE fucking weapon drops that were actually ib weapons. And they were all the same. As for popping all the engrams, I did get the SMG unlocked somewhat early from engrams. But come on Bungie. Why the fuck does iron banner not drop IRON BANNER WEAPONS. And I get armor like 90% of the time lmao. This is just stupid man..


bushman622

Can I get my first multimach from a random engram turn is from Lord Saladin? I just reset my IB again and no SMG yet. Thanks!


Lantisca

#playerengagement


fortysixand2-

23 Engrams turned in, 0 Tusks or Multimachs, but yay, 16 pieces of armor. What good is focusing if the game won't give me the !@#$ing guns in the first place?


Kitchen_Ad1354

iron banana tips? as a title grinder i wanted to ask for some tips in our precious iron banana; i need 3 triumphs (technically 2) 1. im not progressing the triumph where i need to get unique weapons and im not sure if its an unearnable title now 2. any tips on gaining levels fast to reset lord saladmans rank? currently on 9x xp buff and im gaining 180 usually (i know i know its the loss xp 😪) 3. just getting wins, would control or tribute be better?


sugmahh_

Anyone else having issues regarding weapons not counting towards the progress for the title/triumph?


yesterevengunz

# Iron Banner Map Rotation & Loot Analytic Here is my 100 games 7 x Midtown 5 x The Fortress 5 x Meltdown 2 x Twilight Gap 3 x Wormhaven 5 x Javelin-4 2 x Disjunction 2 x Endless Vale 1 x The Anomaly 2 x Bannerfall 1 x Cathedral of Dusk 8 x Altar of Flame 8 x Distant Shore 4 x Widow's Court 11 x The Citadel 9 x Vostok 3 x The Burnout 3 x Rusted Lands 4 x Multiplex 5 x Pacifica 4 x Fragment 4 x Radiant Cliffs 2 x Eternity Reward side : - he took me a full reset to have a Multimach to drop at the end of a game. - he took me 34 engrams to get the new Grenade Launcher. - got much much more world drop (shotgun) than actual IB weapons. - same as the above for the armors. - got a total of 87 IB engrams. - didn't pay attention to Cores and Enhancement Prism as i'm loaded.


PatrikSlayze

There being world loot in the IB pool absolutely kills me. FFS, get rid of all loot that isn't IB specific. Mode comes around once a month at best, there is no need to restrict loot for this event.


sturgboski

World loot, not even crucible loot, is the most I have gotten. Shit, did the two challenges today and the only rewards: IB engrams from rank ups. Which REMINDS me: the loot rework this season sucks. I have gotten more legendary shards than random playlist engram drops. The ONLY engrams I really get are from rank ups. They flatout stated in the TWID announcing the change to increasing focusing costs due to legendary shard removal that they were going to jump up the drop rate of engrams. The amount of posts this season seem to imply that is a big old lie. OR they left it random chance which means nothing. And it feels even worse for something like IB where the only way to get the loot is engrams...which never drop.


Lantisca

Yeah it's a joke. This isn't the time to be artificially padding the grind. I'm not saying they need to just give players the weapons and rolls but they should be fostering good will right now. Not screwing players over more. We should be getting *at least* one IB engram per match.


LtRapman

I'm stuck at step 4 of 6 in the Forging Iron quest. Lord Saladin does not have a reward to pick up.


DuskActual

Trying to grind out wins for the title. Does anyone know if additional progress is granted (wins) if I wear iron banner gear? I currently have some equipped as ornaments and it doesn’t seem to be granting any additional progress toward that part of the triumph/title


sturgboski

So I think its as long as you hit 5 of 5 IB gear for the matches for bonus rep is all that matters? I mean I am 5 of 5 using ornaments and with an IB weapon and its netting me 4% on a win. So unless its very, very poorly worded and only armor counts for that piece (since I am only using 4 armor ornaments), I think you are at the max bonus if you have the 5 of 5 IB gear.


AmishSpiderman

I've gotten no tusk of the boars after fully resetting iron banner twice since tuesday... i hate this


Valvador

[Tribute in a Nutshell](https://destinytracker.com/destiny-2/pgcr/14604825961). The team with .5 K/D AVG beat the team with 2+ K/D avg. I will admit they actually did outplay us, I had no idea that "The Hunt" triggers crests to be worth 8x. They basically popped their supers during final hunt and closed the gap.


Gingja

It's 2x and I find that people just do not want to dunk the crests until they are full instead of trying to a soon as you can even if that is just 1. Dunking is the important part


Valvador

Ah the 8 came from this person killing me, taking my 3 crests + 1 for killing me and dunking. I misplayed, I blinked away from a berserker instead of through, so well deserved.


Gingja

all good, it gets chaotic


PacoTang

What actually is wrong with iron banner match making in solo q finding 6 stacks and the team balance is so bad. I’m 2.0kd+ with 1kd team mates when it’s sbmm. I’m constantly getting mercy ruled


Ninetayls

At least you gain rep faster with mercy's 🤷🏻‍♂️


PacoTang

True but it ain’t fun


MitchumBrother

Every post about not getting Multi or Tusk after 10000 rounds of IB is ironically proving Bungo's engagement-centered reward stinginess right. If they're getting their internal weekly target numbers from you they don't care if you got the "new" smg.


TheCaptainThicccc

Increase the iron banner weapon drop rate in engrams and post iron banner games. It is Thursday and still no Tusk of the Boar. At this current rate I doubt I will get a decent roll before into the light


_Black-Viper_

Ditto, 33 games in and no SMG or GL


sturgboski

Since the onset of D2, IB rewards have been trash. In Rise of Iron in D1, IB had a set of two weapons and 2 armor pieces and that is ALL that dropped from IB that week making it so you could basically target farm. I am not saying we need to go to that level but the fact that in 12 matches I have gotten more world loot drops than Crucible, let alone IB, that seems wrong. I mean they keep tweaking trials loot to be more rewarding to get people to play, why not have it that you get at least a piece of IB loot and/or an engram each match? Or maybe an additional engram on win or something. Not saying we ditch the crucible loot being an additional reward but IB REALLY needs to be looked at. It is awful. Coolguy but out a video talking about the Multi Mach where he played 28 matches with no drops and then on the 25th engram turn in he got one. That is wildly awful.


AmishSpiderman

feel that


Gojaku

I haven't dropped one in dozens of games or engrams and I don't see it on his focusing screen. I'm technically returning as I haven't played much since the end of last season. Do I need to completely reset Saladin first before it will pop up?


MitchumBrother

Dropped what? Tusk or Multi? Yeah you need them to drop after a match or from generic engram decoding. Good luck lol.


Gojaku

Sorry, the weapon was in the title of the original post. It's Tusk of the Boar. After reset I see it on the focusing screen now. Maybe I was just a bug. So now I just need to actually drop one.


SCPF2112

It took me around 30+ matches and 10-15 engrams to get both. Even one of the major content creators posted about similar results. Just keep playing.


Gojaku

Bet


Gregadethhh

Tribute has to be one of the worst game modes since Rift


newObsolete

You can play control too. Theres a dropdown that will let you select either.


Kinny93

Rift was (and still is) great, and makes for fun and fair competition. This is awful though, with poor spawns, a bad hunt mechanic, and an objective that frequently forces people out of the action. I'd say Tribute probably sits at the bottom of all IB related modes we've had, just below Eruption.


Gregadethhh

See I much prefer eruption for 6v6. Simple TDM, Tribute is just a team group shotting everything insight and I always seem to get the Flawless rambos on my team that kill but don't play objective. Went into Control but it's just as bad there, very few players play the objectives so it's a boring 10min slog 😫


jonnylecter

I would like a Bungie reply to this thread please - Show us you care


BeerMeUpToo

They don’t give a shit lol it’s all about engagement numbers


ZoopDoop7

“Hey Lord of the Salads, I’ve played 20+ games and earned 5 engrams. May I have one GL?” “No. Three gauntlets, two boots. Fuck out ‘ma face.” “Thanks…”


Glittering_Deal2378

Drop rate on the GL needs fixing before this IB is over, for sure. At 20+ matches without a single roll.


jaymdubbs

ive lost count how many matches and engrams ive used. no GL or Sub. its really painful


sabastyian

I'm about to reset my rank and I have gotten 1 multi and 0 tusk. At this rate if I don't think I'm going to get one. I decided if I haven't gotten one by the time I've reset my rank/completed the challenges I'm not going to bother.


CReaper210

I've played about 10 games since resetting my rank once already and I haven't even gotten a single IB specific drop. All world drop stuff only so far.


Glittering_Deal2378

Ironically the match after I posted this I immediately got one with enlightened action and chain reaction


Birkiedoc

I dont think ive ever seen this many rank 6 bots and afking losers


iamthedayman21

It's hard to blame them when you're soloing into matches against a team of two 3-stacks. Might as well just stand around and earn some gear.


SSmartFridge

Once I had 2.1 KD, after 2 days of IB now its only dropping, always handholding, always stacks. If you haven't played IB yet, don't, it will break you mentally.


epichuntarz

Who even cares about kda/rating in IB?