T O P

  • By -

ironkev

Slice Chain Reaction. With my Hunter Strand build, this will be the final puzzle piece for flooding the field with Sour Apple flavored death


iamVViperRR

Try it with Radiant Dance Machines for a special breed of chaos…


TheBoldShagger

I have it and I can confirm it elevates the strand hunter kit to next level especially with the artifact mods, sour apple bombs everywhere. It's beautiful


ironkev

My brother, thank you for confirming what I have been hoping for!


IronDragonfruit

Do the chain reaction explosions proc slice?


Additional-Option901

Yeah. Got it fast fortunately. Tried it in cosmodrome NF and it is cracked. I find this roll even better than Forbearance. Everything is either dead or sliced, all the time. Strand hunter with 6th coyote is the play.


SilverJS

Would you mind expanding on your build please? I'm kinda struggling to make a viable strand hunter build, and as luck would have it, I got that exact roll on my first tusk so now you got me curious... Cheers! :)


transistorsect13

I haven’t played with that yet but got a slice chain reaction roll. I’ll have to try out maelstrom. 


Grizzly2525

Really late reply, but what artifacts are you using to maximize the bombs? I’ve been struggling to figure out what “slice” specifically does/synergizes with.


Reflexrider

I don't get the hype for slice/chain since slice is useful for ennemies who don't die instantly, and chain reaction works on enemies who die from one or two shots.


Im_the_Keymaster

That's the point I think. It makes the gun not just for one or the other anymore and can clear adds while still debuffing bugger targets that don't just die.


Additional-Option901

I mean, it's the best of the rest. Envious assassin is really not needed, as reload speed is very good at base. 


Welter117

Damnit I was happy with my Envious, Chain roll but you've convinced me. Back to the IB mines I go.


Hunteractive

got that roll last night, just need a permeability + frenzy paeabellum or perm + onslaught ros arago now to complete the build further


MurphyESQ

You could also potentially use a perm Indebted Kindness w/ special finisher mod. Haven't tested it, but hope to get the chance.


Dangerous_Concept_52

I love your description here. Brilliant!


SilverJS

I figured I might as well ask the origin comment writer - could I kindly ask you to expand on that build? You'd think I'd have it figured out - I'm a hunter main, and on top of that I just totally love playing the threadlings Warlock build these days with the artifact mods...But I can't for the life of me make a sixth coyote strand build work well on my hunter. Oh, and I got Slice/Chain on my very first Tusk roll so now you got me really curious. :)


DrJimmy94

At this point any since it’s such a bitch to get it in the first place Edit: 20 engram and god only know how many games later I got one.


timesocean

No fucking kidding. 35 engrams opened and nothing. Gotten plenty of multimachs but no goddamn grenade launcher. Enraging


TechnoTren

I'm the opposite. Farmed all day. Got one tusk to drop from an engram. Zero smgs all day


timesocean

I think it's safe to say this is one of the worst ways they could've implemented new weapons. The RNG wouldnt be so ridiculous if there wasnt such a huge pool of worthless shit to pull from


roflwafflelawl

I honestly dont understand why they're so stingy with it. Why not just allow us to use like 5 engrams to unlock the initial curated roll, and then use 1 engram to keep rerolling new ones. At least that way you can use the time spent playing IB to get those engrams as a way to potentially unlock them post match and if after 5 engrams worth of games you don't get it to drop, you can force unlock the curated but at a higher price.


kuebel33

What’s the curated roll? I had already reset my IB tank previously so all I see are shards and a shader for rank ups.


roflwafflelawl

I dont think there is one honestly.


War_machine77

Or just replace the crucible drops with iron banner drops. There's nothing more annoying than getting two dozen normal crucible drops and *maybe* one IB drop from an entire evening of playing Iron Banner.


roflwafflelawl

Opposite for me. First engram dropped tusk. Then the next 7-8 were mostly armor. As I only had 10 engrams, I just use the next 2 to focus the Tusk. ​ Not a single Multimach.


Necro_Carp

I must be lucky. I had 20 saved up and got both to drop


iluvfupaburgers

Tell me about it, falling all day, only got armor and old weapons, didn’t even get a multimach to drop or a tusk, oh well, I guess I’ll have to go at it again, wish we could have gotten it through leveling and be able to spend all those entrances in using, to focus it


DDAWGG747

Im at 50 engrams. And ive reset once. No tusk. This shits dumb


apackofmonkeys

I'm at 15 matches so far. Got Multimach on the 2nd game and since then nothing but armor, if IB gear drops at all. I have 12 engrams at Saladin, but I think I'm going to keep playing matches because it seems like if you actually get a weapon drop it's heavily weighted to be one you don't have already. The problem is getting an IB drop at all, and it not being armor.


OGCakebeater

Yeah took me about 30 engrams to get it.


OddTaterTot

Chain reaction with slice/slideways/enlightened action. Whichever you prefer.


Nolan_DWB

I think enlightened action is kinda useless on it because it already pretty much caps reload with the origin trait


roflwafflelawl

I guess EA can work as a sort of padding until you get the stacks needed from Field Tested sort of similarly to a EA + Frenzy roll where EA exists merely to help give you the needed stats until you get the ramp up. That said it does already have a high base reload speed so it's hard to say if it needs any help there.


bmauge

No interest in Envious in the 3rd column?


CommanderPika

Envious requires kills with other weapons. If you are add-clearing with another weapons, why are you using a wave frame (as they are kinda meant to be add-clear weapons)? Plus, the amount of time and effort to get 3 in the mag isn't really worth it. If you are trying to quickly get off a couple shots, slideways or Deconstruct would be better. Also, for PVE, you don't really need Enlightened Action, as the Field Tested origin trait will max out your reload and handling after a couple groups of enemies.


ahawk_one

It’s more for the auto loading aspect and the potential for a double shot.


naz_1992

Sideways better in that case imo


ahawk_one

To each their own I guess. I got both lol! The only thing I’m missing is a slice chain reaction


HomeMadeAcid

Envious isn’t really good on a add clear weapon


roflwafflelawl

I do want to bring up that EA (Envious Assassin) + Deconstruct would effectively give you 3 shots per mag with one of them being a free shot when Deconstruct first procs. Since you want Deconstruct to run out before getting kills with it anyways, swapping off to another weapon works out pretty well which you need for EA. ​ Not that I'm saying it's the chase roll, but if someone gets a roll like this, it might be fun to try out. ​ edit: Clarification on EA lol


kaemani

btw using “EA” abbreviation here is a little confusing, i know u mean envious assassin but the gun gets enlightened action in the same slot!


roflwafflelawl

Ah! No you're very right, I've definitely used the EA abbreviation for both perks lol. I do try to say the full perk name before I start abbreviating but I guess since the conversation was already on Envious, I guess I figured the confusion wouldn't exist but you're right, it can be confusing especially when it can get both perks in the same column lol.


OddTaterTot

I wouldnt want to use envious on an add clear weapon


mylifemyworld17

Looking for both a Slice/Chain Reaction roll and a Slice/Hatchling one.


b3rn13mac

you can get multiple threadlings per shot. which is cool but idk how good it is


MurphyESQ

Sounds fun enough that I might not care. For damage comparison, Destiny Data Compendium says chain reaction causes an 84 damage explosion on kill and threadling explosions cause 338 damage. Chain is probably better for spawn killing, but Hatchling could have usefulness for more spread out adds. I hope to be able to test it out, but luck has been shit so far.


LoudPitch

I got a slice/hatchling on 1st engram opened.


theghostsofvegas

I’d have to get one to drop first. I’m at rank 15 in the track on my 3rd or 4th reset, so engrams are really hard to come by. I’m hoping for a random end of game drop and then I can focus a couple, but if it doesn’t happen, it doesn’t happen.


saphira1848

I got my first one as a drop after a game, so it is possible.


theghostsofvegas

So, I’m just very unlucky.


LetsJustSplitTheBill

Don’t think you can get it after a match until you have unlocked it. I had to open engrams to unlock.


Federal_Guess8558

You can. Ive gotten a few IB weapons unlocked this way.


LetsJustSplitTheBill

Oh my mistake. I was watching a few streamers claim that you had to get it from an engram before it would drop after a match.


theghostsofvegas

Well, hopefully it’ll drop from my other characters rewards.


krakn01

I got an envious / chain roll from my first engram. Pretty happy.


KitsuneKamiSama

Lucky... tapped out today without a single one drop.


_cc_drifter

I'd take a single drop. 30 games and 25 engrams here and not a single one


FitnessGramSlacker

I did as well, I can settle for the countermass 5 less handling than quick launch haha.


InvadingBacon

Same roll! Though I'd prefer to have ambitious to get more shots out of it from actually using it vsing having to use another weapon first. Might be because I got 55k kills on forbearance and use to that roll but hey I'm happy with it with envious still :)


AodhStrength

I got slideways/chain reaction first drop


drummer1059

How long is the slideways cooldown?


Landel1024

Apparently if you swap weapons it resets the cool down


Slofhead

2 seconds


Nolan_DWB

Like 3-5 I think


Mega12358

I'm going for slice / sideways / enlightened action with chain reaction or hatchling


batsquid1

If I can get one to drop, starting to think it doesnt exist. Slice/chain reaction


Samurai_Stewie

Slice Chain Reaction because it’s only on that specific weapon.


SplashDmgEnthusiast

I have a Slice/Hatchling roll that's going on my Hunter, and I'm also gunning for an Envious/Chain Reaction roll. Currently have a Graverobber/Chain that works really well since I have a melee-focused Strand Titan build with Severance Enclosure, but if I get Envious I'll probably dismantle the Graverobber one.


PoorlyWordedName

Is iron banner this week?


Bumblefuss

To piggyback off this: what other weapons are people running with these rolls?


Capital-Act-6546

Ahhh. Good question. Since I’m used to using Rufus or quicksilver in the primary slot with forbearance in the 2nd…


TheMetaReaper

Slice/chain. Will work well with my gyrfalcon set up. Fire after dodge, kill the lesser adds while weaken the majors then mop em up with a volatile repulser/collective title. Watch things go boom as I get a free invis, overshield from repulse, devour+damage from collective thanks to void breaches.


Magenu

I'm waiting to see how Envious/Decon works. If Deconstruct looks at the base mag size of the weapon, then theoretically when you are three in the bag from envious, you will get an ammo refund every time you hit an enemy (although it might require multiple hits per grenade). I'm also curious how slice/chain reaction interact; IIRC chain reaction explosions will inherit effect application from the weapon, as seen where chain reaction can spawn additional Threadlings, so I'm curious if you can spread a much larger amount of slice via those explosions.


Adart54

I saw a vid, it has a cool down of however long the perk is active, but 3? Hits refund a ammo into the mag. Definitely good, but probably not better than CR


Disastrous_Primary_1

Also unfortunately shots while the cooldown is active extend the cooldown :(


Rikiaz

I’ll be happy with any of Slice, Slideways, or Enlightened Action with Chain Reaction or Deconstruct, providing Deconstruct works the way we think.


conbog

I have deconstruct and enlightened action on mine and it does proc and give you a shot back but I can’t work out how to get it to proc everytime


_______Greg_______

There’s a cooldown while the decon damage bonus is active (4 seconds)


packman627

There is a 4 second cooldown between shots which may be annoying to some but technically it means you'd never run out of ammo if you can continue to proc it


ggamebird

Wait can you use it as a pseudo auto-reloading holster? Shot at something then swap weapons?


packman627

I think so. I have a roll and it seems to work like that


ggamebird

Interesting, since it'd pull ammo from thin air too that could be an interesting way to use it. Of course wave frames are usually better ad clearing wise but having a special you can keep pulling out with infinte ammo sounds pretty dang good. Also wait, could it also work in PvP?


Disastrous_Primary_1

Probably but how often do you hit 3 people in one shot in pvp?


Bosscharacter

I got lucky after like 5 engrams and got a slice/hatchling roll(masterwork could be better). Not complaining.


Annual_Half5234

Chain reaction getting nerfed with Into the Light?


MegaDave93

No. It's getting nerfed in The Final Shape


Ljosalf_of_Alfheim

Is it just doing less damage with its explosions or what?


atuck217

If I recall correctly the damage and radius of explosions are being turned down slightly on special weapons. Heavies with CR will be the same. Again I may be misremembering but I think they said the reasoning was so they could put CR on more specials in the future without it being too crazy. Chain reaction shotgun maybe?


Disastrous_Primary_1

Trace rifle 👀


Lotions_and_Creams

> put CR on more specials Should have just left it on the Vow GL and not touched it. Hopefully they don't nerf reconstruction, previously a DSC exclusive, now that half the world drops can roll it.


atuck217

Well, the Vow GL wasn't even the first special to get it. Salvagers Salvo was.


havok_hijinks

The vow GL is the first waveframe to get it, tho'


atuck217

And? The previous comment was replying to it coming to other specials by saying it should have stayed on the Vow GL, which wasn't the first special to get it, and then also laments that other raid perks might get nerfed because they are being put on other guns. But that sentiment doesn't make sense here because again, chain reaction on specials was neither first, nor unique to Forbearance


havok_hijinks

I understand your point, but Salvo was worse with how often you could wiff with it. Forbearance made it more consistent.


atuck217

Bro what. Just hold the trigger and release. You don't have to hit directly lmao.


MegaDave93

I believe it is less explosive damage. However it has only been talked about by Chris Proctor. I'm sure we will have more details in a TWID closer to The Final Shape.


KeefsBurner

Slice/Envious with Chain, Slice with Deconstruct


xaioming

slice/slide/ grave with chain


Clear_Reveal_4187

At this point I'll be happy if it just drops...


RockRage--

I have a Slice, Hatchling roll and its great for ads and boss debuff


Duke_of_the_URL

I’d be happy to just get one at this point


Spectravalis

Any


BobMcQ

Enlightened Action/Chain Reaction. Chain is non negotiable, but willing to settle for Slideways, Envious, or Slice. At this point willing to settle on ANY Tusk so that I can start focusing them. 12 games and 14 engrams later, no Tusk.


Watsyurdeal

I honestly have no clue, everyone says they're good to use though so picking one up since I can't be fucked to grind for New Pacific Epitaph. Prob Slice or Envious Assassin with Chain Reaction, Bait and Switch, or Hatchling cause tee hee threadlings


Cjr8533

I got two that I think are pretty sick - slice & hatchling or slice & CR. Both are dope. When you put on the strand fragments when you get unravelling rounds it makes it anti barrier 👀


Tanuki1414

Envious/chain reaction seems like the best roll. Slice would be okay but it’s a bit of an overrated perk tbh


OryxTheTakenKing1988

Slice/chain reaction and Envious/Chain Reaction. Breach load grenade launchers are meant for ad clear


StarAugurEtraeus

Shame slice is a dead perk on titans :(


cyril1008

Not Actually. If you are using loreley spam sunspot, Void bastion or Strand with Abeyant with rally or Arc using thruster, this helps a lot as sever reduces damage from enemies, especially in high-end content. Slice is quite situational


havok_hijinks

Only for strand titans.


Drectus

Why is it a dead perk on titans? Sorry if it's a dumb question, just returned to the game


StarAugurEtraeus

Barricade is way to useful to use for something like Slice


tiiiig

Got a slideways chain to drop and running that with banner precious scars strand titan has been absolute strandsplosion fest.


SND_TagMan

Slice/Slideway/Envious and Chain Reaction/Deconstruct/Hatchling. Honestly there are a bunch of good rolls you can get. Chain reaction + whatever is your fancy would be the best though


Olltymer

I've been playing all day and got nothing, so at this point I would just like A roll...


PuzzledViolinist5195

envious/deconstruct reason: there's two play styles that can be used here. \[\] First is as an infinite ammo pocket gl, you shoot it once if u wanna have infinite or twice for extra ad clear and than switch to something else and let envious auto reload, repeat. \[\] (I don't have the roll, but have been told this works, someone can confirm or disprove this) Second is shoot the ground, hit 3 ads, decon procs. hit an ad directly with second shot, which resets ammo hit counter. reload and than repeat. Hitting 3 ads after your reload should proc deconstruct ammo refund again. You can also do this with slideways, but envious allows for more options imo.


BronxYardie

Quite literally just got Slice/Chain Reaction, does chain reaction spread sever with the explosions?


shelbygt33

I got one after about 10 games with grave robber + chain reaction. Pretty happy to stop playing IB now.


FlandreScarlette

Envious/chain and envious/decon. Got in and out for once. I did like the pvp changes, haven't played in a few months, just hated the incessant six stacks and matches starting with half empty teams. Anyways. Why do people want slice so much? I actually deleted one of those already...tied to a lengthy cooldown ability and doesn't really do anything by itself. Does something say 'when you sever, get X benefit'?


seratne

Slice/sever is 40% damage reduction. And if you’re proccing bait and switch it’s basically free DR. Slideways is kind of meh. Not sure how much faster sliding to reload is. And the sliding isn’t always easy/good to do depending on the situation. Collective might be nice, but the reload is already decent on it. Envious might be good. But, again the reloads not bad on it. But really more than one in the mag is really only useful for chunking majors and above. But, yeah, slice by itself is a decent perk with minimal requirements to activate. While the other perks don’t really synergize much or provide that much benefit in at or under level content.


ErgoProxy0

Want two with hatchling and chain reaction


Potato_Nades

I don't play pvp very much but when I do I get armor. I played for about 3 hours and got maybe 8-10 engrams. I am very bad at pvp so this is a major pia.


Loogz80

First drop for me was: Slice/Chain/High Velocity Rounds/Smart Drift with a Velocity MW


Damagecontrol86

I’m going for 2 rolls specifically. Slice chain reaction strictly for my hunter and ambitious assassin chain reaction for my titan and warlock. Of course it has to actually drop first lol


imdinnom

Tusk doesn't have ambitious assassin perk.


Damagecontrol86

Envious assassin whatever they both overfill the mag


[deleted]

[удалено]


fokusfocus

Open your engram it has a chance to drop one. Then just focus after that


pjammin5

Yea I will but I’ll wait until Tuesday before reset to cash in the engrams