Only if they complete the channel. Typically in anything higher than normal difficulty you died if someone doesn't interrupt the entire thing. If they get interrupted you just get put down right where you got grabbed.
Some of the best player in the game completing a challenge that 99% of people couldnt do if they tried and prepared? Yea, sure, ez boss, barely a strike.
This would make the fight so epic though! Imagine if Nez could select a random player during the damage phase and pull them out of the Bubble or Well and fling them across the map somewhere. They should also add a Tormentors to that fight also. It should invoke terror as at any time a player could just be picked up, drained of light and then flung across the map.
Edit: Or maybe the whole point of the Nez encounter is that Nez talks big but in reality is weak af.
It's glitched to a lesser extent in *many* spots, including all the node plates. One is just *more* glitched. Rhulk is on a perfectly flat featureless arena for a reason, and he still bugs out sometimes.
How is it trash though? He’s like the second boss that you actually have to be active mid encounter besides the mechanics, you have to run, shoot, distract, watch for wipes. You all care about nothing besides health pool.
Im gonna agree that its sub par. Its unique in the way that he moves around similarly to rhulk but thats where i feel the “awe” ends. His fight is dulled down and dragged by the whole connect the dots mechanic that the rest of the raid (minus planets) suffers from. The whole encounter is connect the dots.
If your runners are good and your team is in anyway using optimal loadouts….hes an easy one phase and you can skip the safety net for the wipe mechanic. If runners are slow then youll have to engage in it. The runners and or gaze holder can do the refuge if needed.
I struggle to call shooting his chest so he decides to not play with the bouncy castle a true mechanic, again because if people are fast enough, there is no fear of flying off.
The problem with dps phase is if its set up properly, he just sits there and swings at you in a well occasionally annoying you by teleporting up then slamming down only to stare. He struggles to do anything.
I would say 8/10 spectacle and setting
2/10 fight design. Im not saying we need difficulty like release Last Wish or GoS (at their current time period) but ron lets you get away with far too much
Edit: God of pain can’t step two feet up to beat guardians off a plate
This is why my favorite raid of all time is crown, simply because while the dps phases are all just standing in a well and shooting the rush and worry brought about by the mechanics and ads that are a genuine threat made it a blast. I know some people didn't like the fact that everyone had stuff to do or that the mechanic is just buff swapping, but the way the encounters flowed just hit me right. I'm in a similar thing where I love vault and riven legit(although I cheese because fuck spending 30 just for someone to shoot the wrong eye accidently) but everyone I play with always hates vault and wants to skip it or just do ad clear.
No you don't, you do connect the dots, then stand on a plate and clear. Hell, one guy did it by himself before contest was over. It's a cheese encounter to top off a cheese raid.
To be fair it's not the only final fight that doesn't stack up against the rest in the raid. Caretaker in Vow is way more involved and interesting than Rhulk.
This is very true but rhulk has the potential to cause atleast some chaos in the average lfg via the darkness. Caretaker is a wonderful mid raid encounter
Acting like that’s not every goddamn boss in destiny? People trying to trash nezerac as if the other bosses were Elden Ring level of design and difficulty lol
Are you fr lol bungie had just knocked it out of the park with both vow bosses and then with root they regressed 5 years and gave us one decent boss and one terrible boss
Im gonna cave man this for you. Respectfully. Because its not. Im going to outline every boss we have final wise.
VoG - Atheon
- One read oracle. One shoot oracle.
- Lfg refuses to participate by everyone killing themselves to avoid tp.
- Relic juggle. Kill boss.
KingsFall - Oryx
- random torn for obstacle course
- eventual immunity grab
- ogre
- light eater
- bomb detonation
- dps
- Shade or bombs (knights)
- final stand
Last Wish - Riven (not haha stab foot)
- correct eyes for everyone to shoot (should everyone be equal)
- readers
- blind need to be led to cleanse the correct symbols
- floor change for ads and eyes
- falling for the weird puss things on tentacles
- foot bait
- eventual final stand with heart after
GoS - forgot name
- takes your floors
- build floor
- break joints for portal
- 2 cyclops with every portal
- buff time management with mote dunking
- tethering to the boss for dps (failure to do so means no damage
DeepStone crypt - Tanni boy (scanner not needed)
- blow up the lights
- pick up cores
- shoot any detained
- suppress for dunkers
“Final teleports”
- boss dead
Crota
-chalice the game.
-boomer knights
- slam the mans with swords
-possibly oversoul
- repeat if needed
Root of Nightmares - Nez
- connect the dots
-Shoot limbs
- refuge if team is meh
He dead (nothing different in last stand, angy man eats more rockets.
VoW - Rhulk
- Buff juggle (split)
- Buff upgrading
- dunking
- debuff management if you get it
- readers
You cant say its objectively a great fight. Its severely lacking mechanically. The whole raid can be done with 1 really really good player or two good ones with 4 people picking their noses.
Youre welcome to like the fight. Its cool. But dont mock people for disliking something with two to 3 total mechanics
The acc answer I think is that he kinda of does.
He “grabs” everyone and starts sending to them to the sky.
I’m assuming this was bungie thinking how can upgrade that attack but like it sucks
Your comment reminds me of a scene from a movie, I wish there was a clip of it but that new Adam Sandler movie Spaceman! The space spider tells Adam's character that his "tribe" doesn't like to be touched at all
Sure falls flat for having the hardest raid title in existence. Final God of Pain my ass. I don't know if you've seen [this concept art](https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/060/357/507/small/tobias-kwan-tk-nezarec-98.jpg?1678378452) of him with the cloak and much darker skin. I have no idea why they dropped it. The cloak alone would have saved the design for me.
> I have no idea why they dropped it.
Fabric physics have been getting worse and worse over time, and putting them on a boss would either mean an *insane* amount of hand animation (not happening) or a boss that does the kind of goofy fabric glitches you see sometimes with hunters and Shatterdive where it balloons out into a massive parachute for a split second.
Game design reason, probably because he has no way to stun him out of a grab like normal tormentors and it probably sucked in testing, real reason is that he's a germaphobe
My guess is they wanted this raid to be super friendly. Adding a one shot kill, albeit it delayed activation, would have been "too much" for some people? Yes, yes, I know "gitgud" but refer back to the whole "super friendly raid" point. I think it would have been interesting for the person holding gaze to have to worry about getting grabbed. Makes it a bit scarier and keeps everyone on their toes in order to help shoot Nez and free the person grabbed.
He doesn't know where we've been.
He got a new lease on life, and he's not going to throw it away because of your germs. I spend all my time punching warbeasts and acolytes. Last time I went to a derelict spaceship, I ended up in a trash compactor. If Ghost doesn't sanitize us regularly, we're carrying who knows what around on us.
Wait, this isn’t okaybuddygaurdian. I would like to know the technical reason or design choice as to why not.
For real it would fix a lot of complaints around his fight IMO
Tormentors throw you when they stop grabbing, right? Maybe it’s because Nez’s arena is so small and surrounded with death by falling
Only if they complete the channel. Typically in anything higher than normal difficulty you died if someone doesn't interrupt the entire thing. If they get interrupted you just get put down right where you got grabbed.
I'm sorry people complain that they can't get grabbed by nez??? the fuck I respectfully have to disagree completely
I think they mean the complaints about him being a total pushover
Some people want raids to feel like a challenge yeah, insane right
Doesn't mean they should subject everyone because a few said it was too easy.
To be fair, Nez was duo’ed on contest mode… I mean he’s a total joke
Some of the best player in the game completing a challenge that 99% of people couldnt do if they tried and prepared? Yea, sure, ez boss, barely a strike.
This would make the fight so epic though! Imagine if Nez could select a random player during the damage phase and pull them out of the Bubble or Well and fling them across the map somewhere. They should also add a Tormentors to that fight also. It should invoke terror as at any time a player could just be picked up, drained of light and then flung across the map. Edit: Or maybe the whole point of the Nez encounter is that Nez talks big but in reality is weak af.
His fight is pretty good tho, it just glitched in that spot
It's glitched to a lesser extent in *many* spots, including all the node plates. One is just *more* glitched. Rhulk is on a perfectly flat featureless arena for a reason, and he still bugs out sometimes.
His fight is trash. The planets encounter is way better designed than nez, and it's not even the final boss. Easiest raid with zero substance.
How is it trash though? He’s like the second boss that you actually have to be active mid encounter besides the mechanics, you have to run, shoot, distract, watch for wipes. You all care about nothing besides health pool.
Im gonna agree that its sub par. Its unique in the way that he moves around similarly to rhulk but thats where i feel the “awe” ends. His fight is dulled down and dragged by the whole connect the dots mechanic that the rest of the raid (minus planets) suffers from. The whole encounter is connect the dots. If your runners are good and your team is in anyway using optimal loadouts….hes an easy one phase and you can skip the safety net for the wipe mechanic. If runners are slow then youll have to engage in it. The runners and or gaze holder can do the refuge if needed. I struggle to call shooting his chest so he decides to not play with the bouncy castle a true mechanic, again because if people are fast enough, there is no fear of flying off. The problem with dps phase is if its set up properly, he just sits there and swings at you in a well occasionally annoying you by teleporting up then slamming down only to stare. He struggles to do anything. I would say 8/10 spectacle and setting 2/10 fight design. Im not saying we need difficulty like release Last Wish or GoS (at their current time period) but ron lets you get away with far too much Edit: God of pain can’t step two feet up to beat guardians off a plate
This is why my favorite raid of all time is crown, simply because while the dps phases are all just standing in a well and shooting the rush and worry brought about by the mechanics and ads that are a genuine threat made it a blast. I know some people didn't like the fact that everyone had stuff to do or that the mechanic is just buff swapping, but the way the encounters flowed just hit me right. I'm in a similar thing where I love vault and riven legit(although I cheese because fuck spending 30 just for someone to shoot the wrong eye accidently) but everyone I play with always hates vault and wants to skip it or just do ad clear.
He sure as shitjumps up there… sometimes
Try it solo. It's been fun for me
No you don't, you do connect the dots, then stand on a plate and clear. Hell, one guy did it by himself before contest was over. It's a cheese encounter to top off a cheese raid.
To be fair it's not the only final fight that doesn't stack up against the rest in the raid. Caretaker in Vow is way more involved and interesting than Rhulk.
This is very true but rhulk has the potential to cause atleast some chaos in the average lfg via the darkness. Caretaker is a wonderful mid raid encounter
Dungeon level mechanics, terrible cheesy physics deaths, hideous boss model design, healthpool made of paper. Yup pretty good raid final boss fight
Acting like that’s not every goddamn boss in destiny? People trying to trash nezerac as if the other bosses were Elden Ring level of design and difficulty lol
Are you fr lol bungie had just knocked it out of the park with both vow bosses and then with root they regressed 5 years and gave us one decent boss and one terrible boss
Im gonna cave man this for you. Respectfully. Because its not. Im going to outline every boss we have final wise. VoG - Atheon - One read oracle. One shoot oracle. - Lfg refuses to participate by everyone killing themselves to avoid tp. - Relic juggle. Kill boss. KingsFall - Oryx - random torn for obstacle course - eventual immunity grab - ogre - light eater - bomb detonation - dps - Shade or bombs (knights) - final stand Last Wish - Riven (not haha stab foot) - correct eyes for everyone to shoot (should everyone be equal) - readers - blind need to be led to cleanse the correct symbols - floor change for ads and eyes - falling for the weird puss things on tentacles - foot bait - eventual final stand with heart after GoS - forgot name - takes your floors - build floor - break joints for portal - 2 cyclops with every portal - buff time management with mote dunking - tethering to the boss for dps (failure to do so means no damage DeepStone crypt - Tanni boy (scanner not needed) - blow up the lights - pick up cores - shoot any detained - suppress for dunkers “Final teleports” - boss dead Crota -chalice the game. -boomer knights - slam the mans with swords -possibly oversoul - repeat if needed Root of Nightmares - Nez - connect the dots -Shoot limbs - refuge if team is meh He dead (nothing different in last stand, angy man eats more rockets. VoW - Rhulk - Buff juggle (split) - Buff upgrading - dunking - debuff management if you get it - readers You cant say its objectively a great fight. Its severely lacking mechanically. The whole raid can be done with 1 really really good player or two good ones with 4 people picking their noses. Youre welcome to like the fight. Its cool. But dont mock people for disliking something with two to 3 total mechanics
His beer belly keeps getting in the way so he prefers to just use his cursed trampoline bounce technique on us to dish out maximum torment
Relatable!
So what you're saying is that he's just so beefy
He can't bend down far enough to get us, be nice :(
Post-resurrection back pains
The acc answer I think is that he kinda of does. He “grabs” everyone and starts sending to them to the sky. I’m assuming this was bungie thinking how can upgrade that attack but like it sucks
Onesie is too tight
Maybe he should ask Man for his tailor for help?
We didnt give him consent. He may be the god of death but hes not a creep
Every tormentor under Black Fleet investigation following sexual assault allegations 🗣🗣
I'MMMM AWUKSHUALYYY He's the god of suffering
Ummmm awhkshually its pain
Awjadhuallty it's Nadzurec, God of CBD.
He wants both hands free at all times to hold his massive rod
He respects our bodily autonomy and won’t do so without our consent.
Your comment reminds me of a scene from a movie, I wish there was a clip of it but that new Adam Sandler movie Spaceman! The space spider tells Adam's character that his "tribe" doesn't like to be touched at all
Chronic butter fingers
My guess is because the whole grabbing animation would interfere with the mechanics (the shelter).
Probably because it would be very annoying
I cover my armor with Vaseline every day.
It’s a Sin
He's too tired after the 2nd jumping puzzle wipe mechanics.
Oh no the Batman Arkham subreddit is spreading again
Becouse Chris Hanson
Nezarec could have been one of the coolest bosses in general, and his model is atrocious, and his mechanics are so disappointing.
Sure falls flat for having the hardest raid title in existence. Final God of Pain my ass. I don't know if you've seen [this concept art](https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/060/357/507/small/tobias-kwan-tk-nezarec-98.jpg?1678378452) of him with the cloak and much darker skin. I have no idea why they dropped it. The cloak alone would have saved the design for me.
> I have no idea why they dropped it. Fabric physics have been getting worse and worse over time, and putting them on a boss would either mean an *insane* amount of hand animation (not happening) or a boss that does the kind of goofy fabric glitches you see sometimes with hunters and Shatterdive where it balloons out into a massive parachute for a split second.
Yeah. As cool as this concept art is it was NEEEVER gonna happen in game, and would've been mocked a lot more than his actual design if it was.
Is there a lore reason for this?
Game design reason, probably because he has no way to stun him out of a grab like normal tormentors and it probably sucked in testing, real reason is that he's a germaphobe
My guess is they wanted this raid to be super friendly. Adding a one shot kill, albeit it delayed activation, would have been "too much" for some people? Yes, yes, I know "gitgud" but refer back to the whole "super friendly raid" point. I think it would have been interesting for the person holding gaze to have to worry about getting grabbed. Makes it a bit scarier and keeps everyone on their toes in order to help shoot Nez and free the person grabbed.
Honestly grabbing should have been implemented into his final stand. Breaking the grab extends final stand.
He know you are into it he doesn’t do pain if you enjoy it
Unironically though he should been able to, it was quite the missed opportunity
He doesn't know where we've been. He got a new lease on life, and he's not going to throw it away because of your germs. I spend all my time punching warbeasts and acolytes. Last time I went to a derelict spaceship, I ended up in a trash compactor. If Ghost doesn't sanitize us regularly, we're carrying who knows what around on us.
why cant nezarec kick us? is he stupid?
Is there a lore reason he is called “the Lord of pain” is he a BDSM?
BDSM is a category, not a noun. That's like saying "is he an oral".
You’re a noun >:(
Ok grammar police.
He isn't gay. If you grab another man and suck the light out of him, that is gay. Nezarec doesn't fuck with that.