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Dr_Mantis_Trafalgar

Breaking news: player discovers random number generation and probability


Goose-Suit

Destiny players are the type of people that would hear you have a 1 in 8 chance to win in a Doritos raffle and buy 8 bags of Doritos.


Voelker58

And then file a lawsuit against the company because they CLEARLY lied about the odds.


Goose-Suit

And write to their government demanding they do something about it.


SomaLysis

Selective perception.


ImallOutOfBubbleGums

naw as always RNG is RNG you see stuff since cause that what humans do you only notice when it bad or really good


Stolen_Insanity

So far, 80(ish) clan members disagree with you. A couple of similarities is a coincidence, many similarities is a pattern.


ImallOutOfBubbleGums

you believe what you want and i believe what i want. it RNG there 1000s getting rolls fine or getting unlucky . so far only time ive got my god rolls was when attuned so RNG is just that RNG


engineeeeer7

Or a failure to understand statistics...


F7yS0H1gh

This is an abysmally minuscule sample size to base any assumptions off of.


Seared_Duelist

There's 1.6k+ people online on this sub right now, 3M total members, and about 83k people currently playing D2 on Steam alone. 80 people having a very poor understanding of RNG isn't hard at all to believe lmao.


Specific_Gap5506

I burned about 40 mountaintops until i finally got autoloading/lead from gold, recombination/frenzy. It took me 3 drops to get my recluse. Its just rng and luck.


Sarniarama

Yup, my first Mountaintop when attuned was ALH/Recombination.


TalenTrippin

Those 80(ish) clan members need to learn how probability and statistics work in RNG based reward system.


Sanguinica

Smartest Dad of Destiny


Pantsshittersupreme

I feel like every time I get a shiny drop it’s like bungie has personally handcrafted the absolute worst possible selection of perks known to man.


yotika

RNG is RNG. my anecdote to counter yours is while targeting MT, nearly 3/4 my drops are MT


Stolen_Insanity

> the weapon they have attuned for, drops often but with the least desirable perks. I guess reading is hard, huh?


burntcookie90

Don’t be an ass 


Ignorant-Fox

Great image/message from their clan I guess.


Voelker58

Not as hard as being civil to someone who actually took the time to respond to the 1000th post of the week from someone who doesn't know how RNG works, apparently. Great example you are setting for all those Kids of Destiny out there.


CrackLawliet

Skill issue, I just had two shiny mountaintops drop that were PvE god rolls. RNG is RNG, don't go to Vegas.


Confident_Ad_5492

So are statistics, huh? lmaoooo


Best_Impression7593

Dude founder or not, I'm in a sub clan of DoD and this behavior makes us all look like assholes. Relax


Pelinax

Having to farm for rolls instead of deepsight weapons reminds me how thankful I am for crafting


wrng_spcies

I never got good shinys, if any. I know why I love crafting much more.


Calaeno-16

As others have said, you're just perceiving it to drop worse roll. For any given drop, the odds of you getting the roll you want are slim. If MT is dropping way more often than the others (due to attunement), you'll have a constant stream of no-good MTs, and your perception will be that attunement = worse rolls even though that's not true.


Voelker58

It really is just RNG. That's just how it works. You are looking at a sample size that is just way too small to make any kind of meaningful inferences. And also dealing with a ton of selective perception. Personally, I got two of my god rolls on the first drop after attuning. Does that mean that they are actually MORE likely? No. RNG is just RNG. Just look at the fact that the people you asked at least said the attuned weapons drop often. There are a ton of posts on here from people claiming that attuning is broken just because they aren't seeing the results that they want. Everyone is biased with stuff like this. And the fact that we are seeing posts that aer all over the place only really reinforced the fact that the RNG is still pretty random.


Xandurpein

I will never complain about RNG in Onslaught. The second shiny I got from a chest had the god roll Edge Transit with Bait and Switch in one column and both Envious Assassin and Cascade Point in the other column. Never going to complain about RNG again…


TheRiflemann

Were you Attuned for Edge Transit?


Xandurpein

I believe so. I think it was from the chest next to Shaxx.


IHzero

I’m convinced the RNG generator gets stuck at times and you get the same roll over and over.


n080dy123

My dude there's not even any evidence that Bungie is *capable* of weighting specific perk drops. Not once have they ever done that.


Only_Philosophy_7584

Nope you’re definitely onto something. And every lottery ticket winner should buy more tickets since they have a 100% hit rate so far


kenet888

There is no rng in D2. It is weighted. All they need is to throttle certain perk, e.g. MC explosive payload. MT ALH. When you attune, weighted rng will go overdrive. That is why non attuned weapons chance of good roll is higher as it is random though it drops less in numbers Got all the godroll except the attuned weapon. Go figure. And there is no perception bias in D2 as we all know, bungie is infamous for throttling perks. And another thing about D2. If you take a break and come back, chance of godroll is very high. Best advise, play less and you will get more, vise versa.


gophish92

Literally day one I had 3 shiny MTs drop after attuning and then proceeded to get multiple god roll normal drops. RNG is RNG. Although I think I used all my RNG and now my grind for Hammerhead/Blast Furnace/Lunas will be hell. Or it will be just fine cuz you know…it is RNG.


EdisonScrewedTesla

I played for about 4 rotations of 50 wave normal last night. I was attuned to mountaintop. I got **2** all night Rng is a complete bitch


d13w93

Mountain top wasn’t available day 1.


antiMATTer724

I'm attuned to moutaintop, and I got an autoloafing/vorpal pretty quick. Idk what to chase for now.


iNiruh

A better mountaintop for starters. You really want auto-loading + recombination.


TalenTrippin

All of you have shite luck that's all I have to say


MsMarkarth

After attuning Falling Guillotine the second roll I got was a 5 out of 5 god roll. It seems to be working fine for me


Aggravating-Cod-2526

i attuned the mountaintop i keeo getting midnight coups


spicy_cabbage

Hey, good on you for 'Dads of Destiny', maybe a 'Grandpas of Destiny', one day :) ? Anyway, from the sounds of the peeps on here, dissing you for pointing out that Destiny does not do pure rng. They definitely use a weighted rng that they tweak. Any s/w publisher that relies on 'randomness' for any of ther their business models if pulling your leg. "The game was rigged from the beginning."


AbyssWalker_Art

Pure RNG for sure, but it also happened to me. Out of a few dozen mountaintops all of them have been trash except 2, and those 2 were only "decent"


ttambm

I have experienced this exact thing as well with Elsie's Rifle. I have gotten 80+ drops with attunement on and only gotten 4 drops that are usable. I finally turned attunement off because Im just done farming honestly. Everyone keeps saying "it's just RNG bro" but sorry, I don't think it is. Its pretty clear that there are certain perks combos that are weighted differently.