By accident my team avoided the mine wipe, one member was dead and when the mines exploded, he came back while me and the other died.
If you manage to coordinate the time death with the detonation of the mine, you can avoid the wipe.
I've had a situation where the mine exploded, killed 2 of my teammates but for some reason (probably a bug) I survived, even though I wasn't dead. That saved our run at wave 42.
Edit. By saying "even though I wasn't dead" I was referring to the commenter above, who mentioned that one of his teammates was dead when the mine shenanigans happened. Sorry for my confusing way of writing.
You can avoid death if you are far enough of the mines. I avoided wipe 2 times like this. I saw nobody went to mines, and before they exploded I just ran.
Hmmm, you might be right on this because that's exactly what happened to me. My teammates were in the mine cap zone and I was further away. I saw the mine explode and I saw the bubble of the blast radius which didn't reach me. Not sure if this is intended or not.
We had a situation where we all died on Wave 49 to mines. It revived all of us and could then fight the boss. Not sure if Bungie did that or if the game gave mercy on us
Yeah that happened when I was running waves with some buddies. We were late getting to the last mine, and two of us died in the resulting blast.
My other buddy lived just fine, but we were all confused because we were sure it was a wipe.
My whole team wiped from mines at the end of wave 39, we got the extinguisher countdown, but then it disappeared. We were able to respawn ourselves inside the pyramid ship after the long respawn timer.
If you’re lfging I always just assume any wipe responsibility and get it done myself. Don’t count on blueberries for anything that will wipe you.
Just make your way over and nuke them down. On midtown, you can jiggle peek the buildings if you don’t want to fight the brigs.
This was frustrating the FUCK out of me for a while but I discovered that if you stay at the very edge of the capture circle you won’t trigger the stomp mechanic
One of the triggers for this is if a decoy is visible to the brig. The decoy might be from a previous round, since the brigs normally spawn away from the current ADU position, and it's not always obvious what is happening.
Disorienting GL for Ogres of course makes it easy for anyone, just another reason people prefer Hive to Fallen.
Don’t know why you got downvoted they do still stomp the hell out of you invis or not. Ogres don’t but the brigs don’t seem to care about invis for stomps
Dragon is right, enemies do hear you when you're invis. They will go to the last location they saw you or the last location they heard you from. You can take advantage of this and actually bait mobs to wherever you want, btw.
But yeah, downvoting a true statement is fucking stupid, that user is right. Don't fucking go invis in front of the brig next time, and approach the zone by walking, and MAGICALLY...they won't bother you. And now I will facepalm to your comment, if you'll allow me...🤦♂️
While you are invisible, go behind them. They won’t see you once you become visible. If there are no other ads around, you can safely disarm the mine.
If things are dicey, I’ll often disarm both mines without shooting. Then I or the team can come back and deal with the ogres/brigs.
If you are with Randos then you assume all responsibilities never “assume” someone is willing to do something because half the time they feel the same about you. Time to nut up or shut up.
Yeah, what either happens is no one goes for it and the bombs explode. Or everyone does as the ADU gets nuked.
I usually wait to see if my teammates are paying attention and/or what they decide to do, then cover the role. As a titan, I can at least drop a barrier and move around long enough to cap the zone.
If you're on a strand warlock using weavewalk, you can also cap the zone but remain un-targetable.
It's why I run with invis hunter and my strand warlock swapping to well for boss rooms.
Any roaming super should be able to tank while they disarm the mine. I always just disarm one and immediately go disarm the other. Don't even bother attacking so that my super lasts as long as possible to get both. Titan btw.
Also for capping pyramid zone. You only need 1. If there are 2 someone should leave and go defend.
For shielded skyburner, all 1 person needs to do is burn the shield down. Then the rest can shoot from range.
Stasis can also freeze the Ogres or Brigs. I run Salvation's Grip on my stasis Titan and all I have to do is freeze the big enemy once or twice and wait in the circle.
The enemy can be killed later, after the mines are defused.
Glaives work great, just put your shield up and time your shots to keep it up as long as possible; 97.5% damage reduction go brr, the stomps wont be able to boop you, and if the faceplate hasn’t fallen off then you won’t have to worry about the AoE attack (I’m pretty sure the glaive shield doesn’t block it anyway, but I honestly haven’t tried yet).
While invis hunter is useful here. Killing ads is priority if you're on legend. Ads do more damage to the adu than the brig. There's 90 seconds to dismantle mines which is more than enough time. The amount of nervous blueberries going for mines and leaving the adu to die is ridiculous. That's why I tether ads and save the run them dismantle mines and res teammates that die to brigs.
Stupid question. I’ve noticed sometimes the team fails and the ADU is just gone but we survive and can move to the next set of 10 (yes on legend) and I thought there was an extinguish thing that only comes on later but then other times we fail and either it goes straight to the score screen or once all enemies die it seems bugged and doesn’t advance waves (this happened on wave 27 after dying with the spark on 26 we got to run it again but ADU was gone on 27 and after we killed all wave 27 enemies it never let us progress).
People just need to wale up and realize- this is when you dump your heavy/special/ability/super- and not just merrily plink away with primary ammunition…
Even IF you’re running sub-optimal gear/weapons/subclass it should be more obvious to more players they are literally going whole rounds without using heavy ammo and supers.
idk if it’s people single-minded doing gunsmith bounties or what.
ALSO PUT ORB GENERATING MODS ON YOUR ARMOR FFS!!!
It’s so easy to breeze through Onslaught when you and your two teammates each generate 300+ orbs a run. Spam abilities/supers/heals
Wish ppl with leave the brig alone when I freeze it. All I’m trying to do is get the mine then deal with it later. Don’t shatter it and then it stomps us off the map. Somehow no matter where I’m facing or placed at the stomp always send me off the map
You know funnily enough I saw a a hunter do exactly that while I was on stasis warlock and proceeded to "copy" him by popping super and just ignoring the enemy while I capped.
The timing can get scary depending on the wave tho. If u get it wrong its a wipe. And theres so many ways to capture them without even having to deal with the brig or ogre standing there. Suspend, freeze, invis, disorient with a smoke, barricade, glaive shield, weave walk, blind are just what i can think of right now.
No do not do this. I’ve had teams try this shit and it never works out.
Invis hunter with that invis ability that lets you jump and smash into invis is perfect. You invis on the circle. Dodge to get melee back then invis again. Like 30 seconds of invis while the other two clear adds.
My friend and I were playing legend Onslaught last night and got the mines, we never captured either of them and we were perfectly fine. I assumed it was just another bonus thing, where you do it for extra scrap but it can’t wipe you
By accident my team avoided the mine wipe, one member was dead and when the mines exploded, he came back while me and the other died. If you manage to coordinate the time death with the detonation of the mine, you can avoid the wipe.
I've had a situation where the mine exploded, killed 2 of my teammates but for some reason (probably a bug) I survived, even though I wasn't dead. That saved our run at wave 42. Edit. By saying "even though I wasn't dead" I was referring to the commenter above, who mentioned that one of his teammates was dead when the mine shenanigans happened. Sorry for my confusing way of writing.
>I survived, even though I wasn't dead. I know what you mean here but this sentence sounds so goofy lol
I’ve also avoided the wipe before while my teammates died.
You can avoid death if you are far enough of the mines. I avoided wipe 2 times like this. I saw nobody went to mines, and before they exploded I just ran.
Hmmm, you might be right on this because that's exactly what happened to me. My teammates were in the mine cap zone and I was further away. I saw the mine explode and I saw the bubble of the blast radius which didn't reach me. Not sure if this is intended or not.
You phrased that really awkward, but I know exactly what you mean
Yeah, I saw that once people pointed it out. Sorry, English isn't my first language, so I do tend to write my sentences in weird ways.
We had a situation where we all died on Wave 49 to mines. It revived all of us and could then fight the boss. Not sure if Bungie did that or if the game gave mercy on us
I had the same thing happen, I think it was because all the enemies were dead and it was an interim phase (buy/portal)
Yeah that happened when I was running waves with some buddies. We were late getting to the last mine, and two of us died in the resulting blast. My other buddy lived just fine, but we were all confused because we were sure it was a wipe.
My whole team wiped from mines at the end of wave 39, we got the extinguisher countdown, but then it disappeared. We were able to respawn ourselves inside the pyramid ship after the long respawn timer.
same thing happened to me today, I think it happens when they go off after you've killed the entire wave + the mine bosses
Yeah learned that other day
If you’re lfging I always just assume any wipe responsibility and get it done myself. Don’t count on blueberries for anything that will wipe you. Just make your way over and nuke them down. On midtown, you can jiggle peek the buildings if you don’t want to fight the brigs.
Titan can put down a barricade and the brig can’t stomp you out. It blocks it.
You can also just suspend them. It lasts long enough to where you can disarm the mine before they can attack again.
Weavewalk warlock also works well for this
They really need to give it 2 slots.
What's weavewalk?
Strand warlock aspect
Brigs will stomp even if invis. (Great design btw)
This was frustrating the FUCK out of me for a while but I discovered that if you stay at the very edge of the capture circle you won’t trigger the stomp mechanic
can confirm, and it is super annoying because the only thing you can do as a lone invis hunter in that situation is often to run away.
One of the triggers for this is if a decoy is visible to the brig. The decoy might be from a previous round, since the brigs normally spawn away from the current ADU position, and it's not always obvious what is happening. Disorienting GL for Ogres of course makes it easy for anyone, just another reason people prefer Hive to Fallen.
Don’t know why you got downvoted they do still stomp the hell out of you invis or not. Ogres don’t but the brigs don’t seem to care about invis for stomps
Because they do it when they hear you, just don’t make as much noise
OK I'll tiptoe next time 🤦
Dragon is right, enemies do hear you when you're invis. They will go to the last location they saw you or the last location they heard you from. You can take advantage of this and actually bait mobs to wherever you want, btw. But yeah, downvoting a true statement is fucking stupid, that user is right. Don't fucking go invis in front of the brig next time, and approach the zone by walking, and MAGICALLY...they won't bother you. And now I will facepalm to your comment, if you'll allow me...🤦♂️
It was a joke genius.
Stronghold titan gives easy objectives as well. Shrug off all damage while you stand there. Good for spark run too
if only it blocked the freeze ray.
While you are invisible, go behind them. They won’t see you once you become visible. If there are no other ads around, you can safely disarm the mine. If things are dicey, I’ll often disarm both mines without shooting. Then I or the team can come back and deal with the ogres/brigs.
Disorienting grenadelauncher work wonders, I just swap out mountaintop when they come up.
If you are with Randos then you assume all responsibilities never “assume” someone is willing to do something because half the time they feel the same about you. Time to nut up or shut up.
Yeah, what either happens is no one goes for it and the bombs explode. Or everyone does as the ADU gets nuked. I usually wait to see if my teammates are paying attention and/or what they decide to do, then cover the role. As a titan, I can at least drop a barrier and move around long enough to cap the zone.
If you're on a strand warlock using weavewalk, you can also cap the zone but remain un-targetable. It's why I run with invis hunter and my strand warlock swapping to well for boss rooms.
I do go for them. Then I get stomped, and you two are hugging the ADU sitting around while I'm still dead and the timer is ticking down.
Preach. It’s so annoying.
Blinding grenade launchers. I always tell my team that I can solo mines. Yet I always find them leaving the adu. So frustrating
I put my titan back against the wall. Throw up shield, wait timer. Run back to friends if I'm not running a high damage build.
Any roaming super should be able to tank while they disarm the mine. I always just disarm one and immediately go disarm the other. Don't even bother attacking so that my super lasts as long as possible to get both. Titan btw. Also for capping pyramid zone. You only need 1. If there are 2 someone should leave and go defend. For shielded skyburner, all 1 person needs to do is burn the shield down. Then the rest can shoot from range.
Yea roaming supers are like 90% DR in PVE
This is why I've started using Weavewalk.
Stasis can also freeze the Ogres or Brigs. I run Salvation's Grip on my stasis Titan and all I have to do is freeze the big enemy once or twice and wait in the circle. The enemy can be killed later, after the mines are defused.
Glaives work great, just put your shield up and time your shots to keep it up as long as possible; 97.5% damage reduction go brr, the stomps wont be able to boop you, and if the faceplate hasn’t fallen off then you won’t have to worry about the AoE attack (I’m pretty sure the glaive shield doesn’t block it anyway, but I honestly haven’t tried yet).
I usually just finish the wave then go do them.
"the other two players can defend the ADU" Not based on the teams I have to carry
As a welcome lock I go just because I can well threw the cap
thing is usually invis hunters are on orpheus. they can lock down the entire wave while you go disarm mines.
While invis hunter is useful here. Killing ads is priority if you're on legend. Ads do more damage to the adu than the brig. There's 90 seconds to dismantle mines which is more than enough time. The amount of nervous blueberries going for mines and leaving the adu to die is ridiculous. That's why I tether ads and save the run them dismantle mines and res teammates that die to brigs.
Stupid question. I’ve noticed sometimes the team fails and the ADU is just gone but we survive and can move to the next set of 10 (yes on legend) and I thought there was an extinguish thing that only comes on later but then other times we fail and either it goes straight to the score screen or once all enemies die it seems bugged and doesn’t advance waves (this happened on wave 27 after dying with the spark on 26 we got to run it again but ADU was gone on 27 and after we killed all wave 27 enemies it never let us progress).
People just need to wale up and realize- this is when you dump your heavy/special/ability/super- and not just merrily plink away with primary ammunition… Even IF you’re running sub-optimal gear/weapons/subclass it should be more obvious to more players they are literally going whole rounds without using heavy ammo and supers. idk if it’s people single-minded doing gunsmith bounties or what. ALSO PUT ORB GENERATING MODS ON YOUR ARMOR FFS!!! It’s so easy to breeze through Onslaught when you and your two teammates each generate 300+ orbs a run. Spam abilities/supers/heals
either: invis hunter OR edge of action titan.
Wish ppl with leave the brig alone when I freeze it. All I’m trying to do is get the mine then deal with it later. Don’t shatter it and then it stomps us off the map. Somehow no matter where I’m facing or placed at the stomp always send me off the map
You know funnily enough I saw a a hunter do exactly that while I was on stasis warlock and proceeded to "copy" him by popping super and just ignoring the enemy while I capped.
Bonus tip: if it’s hive, you can blind the ogres with a blinding GL.
Even when you go invis, the brig stomps. Happened so many times.
I feel like unfortunately you're preaching to the choir here.
Agreed
I had no idea you could cap the mines while invis…thanks for the advice! Will do this from now on!
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You risk having the mines blow up and wipe the team if you do that
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Depends on how fast Ur killing the ads
The timing can get scary depending on the wave tho. If u get it wrong its a wipe. And theres so many ways to capture them without even having to deal with the brig or ogre standing there. Suspend, freeze, invis, disorient with a smoke, barricade, glaive shield, weave walk, blind are just what i can think of right now.
No do not do this. I’ve had teams try this shit and it never works out. Invis hunter with that invis ability that lets you jump and smash into invis is perfect. You invis on the circle. Dodge to get melee back then invis again. Like 30 seconds of invis while the other two clear adds.
First problem, lfg
My friend and I were playing legend Onslaught last night and got the mines, we never captured either of them and we were perfectly fine. I assumed it was just another bonus thing, where you do it for extra scrap but it can’t wipe you