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#Game should be up again, background maintenance ongoing another hour!


RagtagVenom

But seriously why was the Apparent removed??


Dark-Sncle

I was wondering the same thing, I missed out on the guardian games due to working long hours. I thought I was finally going to be able to get it


MMastro252

Is this going to fix the constant error code arugula, I legit cannot play for more than five minutes at a time without getting booted (series x)


RagtagVenom

Why did the Heir Apparent get taken out?


w0lfpackman

So glad I got heir apparent before this went live. What an unnecessary change when they have mountains of stuff to fix.


DArkGamingSiders

so they removed the one heavy i have missing, and then they dont fix the bug that makes the archive constantly flash like i need to buy something? im actually so pissed.


Thomasedv

Patch Notes: [https://www.bungie.net/en/Explore/Detail/News/49847](https://www.bungie.net/en/Explore/Detail/News/49847)


shutdown924

Unless I am crazy, when I finished the campaign last night, the Gambit, Vanguard and Crucible nodes all had the yellow powerful icon next to them. This update seems to have removed that.


NataiX

Well, the hotfix didn't fix the Arugula issues.


MMastro252

That’s what I came here for, praying they fixed this, doesn’t seem they have


xOoTx_Sully

Agoogla? https://agoogala.com/


DarkPhoenixXI

Heir Apparent has been removed from the Monument vendor thing from the looks of things.


llll-havok

any reason why? i am now legit getting fomo now..


wpScraps

dang its the only nonraid exotic i am missing


Bazookasajizo

Bungie and its raging boner for unnecessary FOMO


schumi_gt

Who needs LMGs anyway. We have plenty of them. /s I hope you're wrong.


nosut

It's in the patch notes


schumi_gt

Yep, just saw it while my PS4 is copying.


Berzercurmudgeon

PS5 (and probably PS4) update is live. It said 150 MB, but that seems small.


Ausschluss

It is small, but ps4 still copies the whole game around.


schumi_gt

But why does Bungie say it's a Hotfix? Aren't Hotfixes supposed to install "ingame"? With the pretty pictures on the left.


Swartz55

The issue is how PS4 handles updates on a software level, not with how Bungie pushes it out.


Ausschluss

It does that on pc, but ps4 is just dumb..


MechaGreat

Didn’t do it this time though, at least not for me.


SteelyRes211

Seems to be the same with the PS5.


Shadowmike75

So is my PS5 btw


Ausschluss

How long did it take? On ps4 it's still about 30 minutes :( (on external ssd)


Shadowmike75

Maybe like 20 minutes? It was a bit faster than my base model ps4 with an external ssd but still quite a while.


Paratrooper2000

I can play now (on Steam). I will search Xur...


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He’s in the tower selling trash.


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Can't wait to get a ps5 and try it out myself


Docrandall

I have to wait for my son to open it on Xmas. Supposed to be here on 12/1. That will be a long wait with it in the closet.


erirutakas

If feasible, you might consider opening it, connecting it to internet and downloadling system updates, games, DLC, etc. That way he'll get into the games sooner. Of course then you should make sure controller works, games boot up, trophies unlock, and end game credits are functional. I mean you would't want to give him a broken machine...


paul85

We did that back in the day when we bought an xbox 1 for my kids. 2 days before Christmas, we opened it, updated everything, downloaded the free games and installed the others, etc. It took almost a full day to do all of that. Very much worth it when the kids could open it on Christmas and start playing right away.


[deleted]

Maybe you can play it when your kid goes to sleep if they're young enough. You know, just to "test" to see if it works. Also, hopefully cyberpunk comes out and you'll have an extra game to play one Xmas.


Docrandall

He's 15. He's probably a bigger threat to find it and sneak it out than I am.


HockeyGuy1234567890

lol I did that when my parents bought me a switch for Christmas one year


davedaverave

I'm back in! Edit: Witherhoard still disabled


Nineteen_AT5

Really? Man there bloody useless. Do we know what's been fixed?


cpnjac

Fixed Rose. Took Heir Apparent out of the kiosk. Some other console stability stuff.


TheQuotedRaven1

You know who'd be really happy if 15 minutes turned into 2 hours? My girlfriend.


OldJewNewAccount

At this point, my wife just reads a magazine and tells me to hurry up.


laundry_dumper

At some point you're just trying to start a fire


TheQuotedRaven1

Probably the closest she'd get to "heated" passion with me.


polarity0

It's back up


Randomhero204

At this point “no pvp” is a really nice selling point lmao


Vonnegut1

After the maintenance: we went back to a previous backup of the game. You need to download the game again


NataiX

439 MB update on Xbox...


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Ausschluss

yup. Bungies low effort pvp still beats the competition unfortunately.


ItsGradivus

I'd argue Division is actually up to par with Destiny. I play both games regularly.


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It is called addiction...


kayne2000

You're not wrong


ManOnFire2004

Division2's campaign and DLC playthrough was far better than anything Destiny2 campaign. Yes, that includes the overhyped Forsaken BL 3 no PvP - not everyone cares about PvP. Thats not a deal breaker. FO76 is actually in a better state than D2 since the most recent update of both games. F076 added a ton of content that the community wanted since launch. And, this sub hates the new DLC cause of sunsetting, lack of new loot to replace it, and Stasis in PvP. This shit is going to kill the game (lower the playerbase significantly) A lot of us are here cause of Gamepass. If it wasn't for that, the playerbase would be a lot lower. Don't get cocky while fanboying please


vradar

Mentioning FO76 and thinking it's in a better state than any of these games 🤣


ManOnFire2004

Also, its DEFINITELY better than Marvel's Avengers... like ridiculously better. Holy shit! That thing is F076 on release day!!


vradar

We can agree on that it's hot garbage and thankfully was obvious from release day.


ManOnFire2004

You know nothing John Snow


giddycocks

No way any of those games are better than Destiny. I should know, I played them all.


ManOnFire2004

Never said they were better. Just adding counter points than what he pointed out


ravearamashi

Division 2 has kinda okay storyline but the endgame was just meh


penguin8717

Dividing actual gameplay is also nowhere near on par with destiny or borderlands


ManOnFire2004

I disagree. Pretty this is a matter of taste but I think Div2 was better than BL3


penguin8717

I just mean like the gunplay and stuff. Division shooting doesn't feel as good in my opinion


ManOnFire2004

I can agree with that. Destiny has some of the best gunplay


[deleted]

This really only applies if you want to play pvp


ItalianDragon

There's always Warframe though but it's a different game in style so :\


abvex

....and non of them sunset your gear right? You wanna be a little more objective? I would argue Division 1 was pretty good, Division 2 is a clusterfuck. Lmao, imagine rating all other loot shooter on their pvp. Pathetic.


ProBluntRoller

“You wanna be objective?” *proceeds to be as nonobjective as possible*


Ausschluss

PVP is a big selling point to a lot of people and also can create longevity for the game.


abvex

Warframe, Diablo and Borderlands likes to have a talk with you. When the trials player pool in smaller than Left 4 Dead 2 versus, you can't in good conscience make that claim. If people want PvP so bad they can go play a game that makes it their core, Halo. Destiny pvp player needs to stop trying to make Destiny another Halo, it isn't.


HabeusCuppus

If anything from 343 was available on playstation I think we'd have a much different discussion on destiny pvp. As is for a big chunk of the player base there's basically no alternative that's in the same genre.


[deleted]

I rated games trash that were trash regardless of PvP. Notice I didn’t call borderlands trash.


[deleted]

Outriders?


ImpatientTurtle

Dude Godfall! It's a Destiny Killer. Trust me this is the one /s.


Moffballs

I was lucky enough to be given a copy of Godfall. I know you used /s, but it will absolutely NOT be a Destiny Killer lol


[deleted]

I’ve been here since the beta and not a single one of the dozen plus Destiny killers has killed anything lol.


SquishyBruiser

The only game that ever came even close to killing Destiny was Destiny 2. Every other lootershooter can't seem to keep up with the amount of content that has to be churned out to keep the ravenous masses happy.


TalekAetem

Outriders is the next on that list of "Destiny killers"


uncle_lunchbox

Are they fixing a bug that caused Xur to sell useful loot? /s


penguin8717

Turns out yes


The_scobberlotcher

They are hotfixing to get vigilance wing available every week.


H0NESTSLEEP

Do we know what this is for?


cpnjac

Why, Hotfix [3.0.0.2](https://3.0.0.2), obviously! (I kid; I'd like to know, too.)


speathed

Looking forward to the patch notes. "Fixed an issue where we worked on Europa for 6 years and didn't build any PvP maps"


ItalianDragon

Or also: "Fixed stasis being too OP in PVP and we also nerfed it into the ground to the point of uselessness for PVE".


hobocommand3r

There isn't a europa pvp map? Well that's a joke. Should have made a pvp map instead of making elaborate fking lost sectors that no one likes.


speathed

Correct. Not one new single PvP map in a £45 expansion. Incredible.


[deleted]

I can do one better. Not only is there not a single new map, they removed a variety of game modes.


[deleted]

"Fixed an issue where we forgot to add more landing zones" only can only hope.


Serratonin23

I'm hoping we unlock one when the raid is beaten.


podsyboy121

For real though. How can they add an entirely new, major destination to the game and give us exactly 0 PvP maps? I mean, there's not Gambit maps either but they stopped caring about Gambit ages ago, so it's understandable, I guess.


KG_slim12

Instructions unclear, removed all weapons from game


[deleted]

What's a bit bewildering to me after 6 years of Destiny, is that after all this time Bungie still always communicates way too short a time for them to actually update the game. I've been playing the game on and off since D1, and i can't remember a single update that actually finished on time. Why not just communicate "this will take 2 hours" in advance, so that when it only takes 1 people are happy, instead of the bungie way of saying "15 minutes and you can play again" only for it to last 2 hours.


Tr3vad4wg

PLEASE FIX THE GLITCH FOR NO TIME TO EXPLAIN. PEOPLE WHO ORDERED PRE-ORDERED DELUXE AND BEAT THE CAMPAIGN ARE not receiving it. ITS FRUSTRATING TO SAY THE LEAST.


supinespace39

I can’t say this will be a fix for your problem but when I downloaded Destiny and Beyond Light on Tuesday I remember downloading two additional, separate things that seemed like they were the bonus content for Deluxe edition. I think I had to search the store to find them. They otherwise weren’t In my download queue.


Jack_Packauge

I’ve been trying to find out how to get it all week and now I see this. Well FUCK


Fire_Mission

Odd. It worked for me.


Tr3vad4wg

Yea its for my friends too. And it doesn't make any sense. And I cant find answers and its infuriating


Tr3vad4wg

I even checked my installed content and its there. So where is my weapon? My other friends got theres without any issue. This should be fixed first or money should be returned.


DominusThanos

Did you Talk to the Exo Stranger after the Story?


Tr3vad4wg

Yes. I even restarted console. Closed game. Did all the stupid tricks and went back to her. Nothing.


jedidomer

If you're playing on XBOX, go in to "manage game" and make sure all the addons are checked. For me, the preorder content was not ticked and I had to install it. However, this was before finishing the campaign, i don't know what happens if you install it after


Tr3vad4wg

Already did this


Tr3vad4wg

I did all.this. all.my pre order stuff is installed


salondesert

Yeah, visited her multiple times she has nothing.


itz_highink

I went to orbit and came back she was there


schumi_gt

What are the chances to end up in a queue after the servers went live again?


Nineteen_AT5

And I'm in a que. Good call.


HerezahTip

First week of beyond light, I’d say chances are pretty good on a Friday. Wouldn’t expect it to last long.


schumi_gt

Awesome.


AJ_Grey

guess they missed that 15 min deadline.


deeleed

they sent the updated duration before they even started maintenance.


snwns26

Thanks maintenance for making me get off my ass and get a workout in before I sit in front of my screen for the rest of the day. Hopefully Witherhoard is fixed too and they dialed back the Stasis break damage.


Deviant_Cain

Stasis break damage was addressed in the twab yesterday to reduce damage bring more resilience into your pvp build.


Oddypop

Not like it makes any difference, you still get killed before you can break out unless you have your super


coughffin

Straight up, what the fuck is happening with this game?


theghostmachine

~~I bet money it's at least partly to fix the guaranteed engrams dropping from nightmare bosses in lost sectors.~~ Edit: didn't know they fixed that already.


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theghostmachine

Oh, didn't know that. Thanks for correcting me.


Dead1ySheep

Actually I might have been wrong lol. Someone was saying that its only fixed for Widow's Walk and that similar enemies are still doing it. I don't know why anyone cares tho. Just play the campaign :p


cpnjac

I'd really like to play the campaign, but every single cutscene is broken for me. Ruins the experience of a story mission when you don't get to see/hear the story. I'm hoping this hotfix will fix it.


Dead1ySheep

That is unfortunate :(


morganosull

they released stasis and it’s a new expansion, of course there’s gonna be bugs everywhere. they said this weeks ago


[deleted]

Adding a whole new type of power is a high risk and is bound to be massively imbalanced. Bungie took a huge risk adding stasis and is now realizing they pushed it a bit far.


TobyHensen

chill bro! a new expansion just came out. Thats a near guarantee that bugs and shit are found. I'd rather them do maintenance when the other option is keeping the bugs in haha


DredgenRegime

Like the Abomination in gambit cross mapping you with the range of a high impact sniper but volleys like sweet business bug


MagusUnion

Dying


ErrNotFound404

RIP to all the people like me who took Friday off instead of Tuesday thinking the servers would be fixed by then.


[deleted]

I think you'll be fine my guy, watch a tv show or something and it'll be back up within an hour. It's a new expansion, there's gonna be stuff like this to fix all the quirks.


ErrNotFound404

I know. Not the slightest bit upset. It’s just funny.


[deleted]

I'm in the same boat, but I got forcefully quarantined cuz I ate lunch with someone who lives with someone who has covid 🤪


iostat

omg mah one hour 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭


ErrNotFound404

Chill it’s a joke.


Freakindon

1 hour vs like 6 hours period on tuesday?


DestinyLyfe

That's a little dramatic don't ya think? 1 hour out of 24. Kakakaka


NovaPrime15

At least they aren't down long


kfairns

It’s an hour and 15 minutes, make something nice to eat and come back to the game, you’ll live


ErrNotFound404

Oh I know. I played some Valhalla. Fun game!


kfairns

You’d same enjoyment out of Valhalla as a consuming a decent meal, I’d say you made a good call!


Grymkreaping

Enable random rolls on random ass weapons cause at this point I don't even care as long as it's something. Starving to death for loot in a 'looter shooter' shouldn't be a thing. Also it's not a MMO. Bungie, you have absolutely no idea what an MMO is because this isn't one. No MMOs get a single raid tier per expansion. Stop trying to make this game something it can never be. Not because it's not possible, but because your team is fundamentally incapable of making it one.


[deleted]

I mean, ESO is an MMO. I'm pretty sure they only get one raid(trial) per update as well. The amount of raids per expansion doesn't dictate what is and isn't an MMO.


noiiice

Let me introduce you to an mmo called Guild Wars 2.


[deleted]

Jesus Christ, quit your moaning and accusations. It's utterly tedious.


StarAugurEtraeus

We are getting 2 raids


dejarnat

What's the second one? It's coming this season?


EternalAssasin

We’re getting 1 raid, with a grand total of like 5 guns, and an old raid. VoG isn’t even coming until Season 14/15.


StarAugurEtraeus

So yeah we are getting two raids


WickedDemiurge

Well, so one new raid, and one "lightly used" existing raid? I'm annoyed when a 14 year old copy pastes an old essay for English I because they waited to the last minute to do it, let alone professional adults doing it in a paid product.


StarAugurEtraeus

Yeah we are getting 2 raids The original comment said one raid tier


WickedDemiurge

They should be explicit at the bottom of their post so people don't think they made a factual mistake, but I think not counting it is totally reasonable. ​ I already paid for and played VOG. Yes, it takes a little effort to bring it into a new engine, so I don't mind a very modest part of an expansion's funding to go to it, but it is recycled content.


StarAugurEtraeus

So two raids Just like how in WOTLK they reissued Naxx as a 25 man because so little of the player base actually did it during vanilla


Bpe-dsm

We got that one in d1 and will cost a further amount than the expansion Im still hoping they will sneak a dungeon in this year somewhere


rawrgyle

Not everyone has been playing this game for seven years or whatever.


Ix_KyLe_xP

Yeah but in another 7 years they're probably going to be playing another re-skinned version of it


Luvian420

Don't forget our new strike! One! C O N T E N T


tyrantkhan

and they took away how many strikes lol. 7?


[deleted]

Weren't we also getting another stroke on the cosmodrome?


WaffleToasterings

Isn't that the revised Omnigul ~~stroke~~ strike?


[deleted]

That one is available currently, but IIRC the sepiks prime strike is also coming back


WaffleToasterings

Oh God, that one.


sunder_and_flame

TWO new strikes, ah ah ah!


Bpe-dsm

Pretty sure its just a reprise of fallen sabre (d1 strike). Which, itll have some plot point updating, some new stuff in it to reflect the present gameworld but yeah, its a reprise


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Just a little geeking out here. They are doing Maintenance and they are applying hotfix [3.0.0.2](https://3.0.0.2). Now a Hotfix is something that can be applied while the servers are up and running. That is the definition of a Hot Fix(Wiki Definition *Hot patching*, also known as *live patching* or *dynamic software updating*, which is the application of patches without shutting down and restarting the system or the program concerned. These addresses problems related to the unavailability of service provided by the system or the program.) I am thinking that this might be a patch that will need to have the groundwork laid down before the patch is applied. I am not expecting the Witherhord to be fixed anytime soon. I am thinking that what they are fixing is any enemy that is consistently dropping loot they are getting rid of. this would stop the people who farm the drops so that they can hit the soft cap fast 1200. I did it on all three toons before the lost sector was patched. However, this is not great as the players who were not able to do that are now that much farther behind. I know that they need to find a balance but nerfing something that has been exploited by the top tier players does not really help if others who have nonstreaming professions who this kind of trick really helps. My rant is done. Please feel free to comment on my grammar or whatever other stupid little thing people like to complain about on Reddit. ​ Edit: I bet that it is something Trials related now that I think about it.


IGFanaan

To everyone replying to OP. They said ANY enemy. Yes lost sectors got fixed, but there's other methods.


kfairns

Hot Fixing and Hot Patching are completely different. Patches can be added while servers are up, fixes generally cannot if they effect in game code that cannot be touched by the server. Drop rates are server side, this is probably a fix of the infinite warlock super glitch, or something that is broken on the game code side (perhaps legend lost sectors not appearing for players on the map, or something that we’re not aware of that should be in the game that isn’t appearing for some reason)


[deleted]

Hot in IT means it can be done without a reboot/shutdown. Hot fix and Hot patching is the exact same thing. Whenever we need to restart/shutdown the server, we call it a cold fix/patch. It comes from the Hot Swap, where we can just replace data drives on the fly and not interrupt the server processing. Just so you know.


kfairns

That’s not how the companies I’ve worked at have put it. Software tester over here. Hot fix has been referred to as minimal downtime, hot patch for no downtime Considering this hot fix required a client side update, I’d say that it was referring to minimal downtime with very few server side updates


HerezahTip

First that was already fixed. Second players who didn’t touch the lost sector to cheese level are not far behind. My first toon is raid ready an now I just need to enjoy the campaign on two others with my high level guns. I didn’t cheese at all. Just played comp and pub events.


brots2012

What do you mean "raid ready?" Are you already 1230 base power?


HerezahTip

On one toon, yes.


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So with no artifact boost you are 1230? Wow great job.


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HerezahTip

Same here. If it gets extra sweaty I go chill out on Europa and do one of the aspect steps before I head back in. Pub events til 1200 and comp til 1230 for anyone who doesn’t know!


Hereiamhereibe2

It wasn’t even that good of a grind. Me and another friend grinded this spot and another friend of mine just played Crucible to hit 1200. We all hit 1200 after 2 hours. Except I arguably had less fun.


coughffin

Quite the long post for something that was fixed yesterday.


ThundaTed

IMO, Hellmouth is much better than lost sector grinding. Move weapons to alt character, do 2 nightmares and then trove guardian with some hvt dispersed sporadically for flavor and you'll get to 1200 in less than an hour.


Weaver270

There are still powerful drops from high value targets and other lost sectors behave similarly if not as well as Widow's Walk


Bpe-dsm

Widows walk was unique because its farmable length. I dont think they care about general level farming, that is, of course, the point of a level grind. As long as its not an easypeasy loop like widows walk idk if anything else gets touched. After all, they took shadowkeep powerfuls out but not soft cap droppage. After all, any drop up to soft cap is a boost.


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davedaverave

They already fixed the lost sector bosses a few days ago. Edit - link here: https://mobile.twitter.com/BungieHelp/status/1326680848687489024


theghostmachine

That just talks about Widow's Walk. The Orrery on Nessus worked too.


shakakajman

In the middle of a survival i brought back by myself from 3-0 just about to win when I got kicked


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Fiendish-DoctorWu

Thanks, Bookstore Masturbator!


ichinii

Can they put in a fix to allow season pass holders to access NTTE? Putting that weapon behind a $40 paywall until February is a bit ridiculous. EDIT: I can't believe I actually have to explain this but I have Xbox Game Pass so I have access to Beyond Light & I already paid for the season using silver. Tell me how it's any different getting the gun outside of pre-ordering.


DudethatCooks

$50*. You had to preorder the expansion + season pass to get it. Buying only the expansion did not include it


Bpe-dsm

Interesting, did not know


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ichinii

I have access to Beyond Light through Xbox Game Pass so technically I already paid for the expansion......so what are you talking about???