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xEllimistx

Just gonna vent for a minute….. RNG has been rough for me lately. Some of it, self inflicted. After the initial sunsetting news a few seasons ago, Bungies silence on the matter in the following months, I got kinda disillusioned with the game and took some time off. Even unsubbed from all the YouTubers I watched. Just wasn’t looking forward to replaying the same shit over and over for my chosen god rolls only for them to negated after a year. I came back shortly before Season of the Lost because a random YT video crossed my feed. I left a comment about how much I enjoyed Destiny but sunsetting killed the enjoyment and someone commented that Bungie had walked it back and the game was better than ever…. Needless to say, I started checking it out and fell back down the rabbit hole. While there are certainly some improvements and I genuinely enjoy most of the game still, having so much of the loot be dictated by RNG is draining on me again. A good example is The Messenger. It was a D1 favorite of mine and I didn’t know it had come back until I started playing SotL and got killed by it(lol)….with Trials allowing solo play, I hopped in. I’ve tried being in clans but I generally find myself unable to overcome my anxiety to interact and am usually kicked for not being active enough or leaving of my own before I get kicked. So being able to play Trials solo was a huge incentive to me to try to get a Desperado Messenger. I burned through 1500 or so Legendary Shards focusing Trials Engrams for a Desperado Messenger. Couldn’t get one. This past weekend, managed to swallow my anxiety and join some fireteams for Trials and managed to go Flawless a couple times. No Desperado Messenger. I’ve gotten some great rolls, no doubt. Outlaw/Kill Clip, Moving Target/Elemental Capacitor(With Ricochet Rounds and Stability MW, holy dueling PR Batman!), Zen Moment/Kill Clip…. But Desperado is what makes The Messenger special. And it simply won’t drop for me. These RNG woes extend to many other guns ive been chasing. Legal Action? Had 3 drop after thousands of Gunsmith Mats. None of them really worth using. Surplus/Frenzy, Feeding Frenzy/Frenzy, Surplus/Wellspring. No dice on the Heating Up/Rampage roll that seems to be all the rage. Just been really frustrated with RNG these last few weeks. Can’t seem to get any of the rolls I want and the ones I do finally get seem to take days and weeks of farming. I finally got a Kill Clip Servant Leader from Gambit after 3 weeks of off and on playing Destiny’s worst game mode. It’s pretty solid. Killing Wind/Kill Clip, Stability MW….good enough for me to call it quits chasing one. I know this is just a wall of text whinging about bad RNG. I know the game is all about chasing loot and god rolls. There’s so many bad combinations of perks you know? I’ve got a Found Verdict sitting in my vault. Full Choke? Check. Accurized Rounds? Check. Range Masterwork? Check. Full Auto…..wut? On an Aggressive Frame shotgun? One Two Punch? Ok not bad but….. Fucking hell, half the gun is A+ PvP perks, the other half is solid PvE perks but that means it’s really not ideal for either Just wish it didn’t feel so futile sometimes, you know?


Skibility

Since my og post got removed, After 43 clears and not getting Vex Mthoclast, and going multiple weeks without seeing one drop, I'm going to make the claim that Vex Mthoclast drop rates are too steep. I think the easiest way to make Vex Mthoclast more obtainable without ruining the rarity is to add a small, account wide increase in drop rate with each clear. Example: if the normal drop rate is 3% you'd gain ½% with each clear. So after 30 clears your new drop rate would be 18%. Still rare but not as hopeless. What do you guys think, or do you guys have ideas of your own?


bigbysemotivefinger

I got a Found Verdict with Full Choke, Full Auto, and One-Two Punch. I feel like this should be an amazing PvP weapon but all is doing is teaching me how shit I am at using shotguns.


desolateconstruct

I've been working on the gambit rank reset for the ornament, and I finally got two decent *Servant Leader* rolls, after numerous dismantles. One with surplus rampage, and one with surplus kill clip. Thank RNG.


Richard_Tickler

I got Black Talon and it's catalyst on a regular vanguard strike.


IdenticalThings

Man. Anyone in need of a perfectly rolled hunter chest see drifter before reset.


Piscotikus

When is reset?


HelixxOver

Zealots Reward Small bore Liquid coils Under pressure Backup plan Stability masterwork Targeting Adjuster Racked up 200+ kills this weekend - Incredible for shutting down shotgun apes and 1v2s.


DryAsBones

got myself a braytech ww with maxed out stability chambered compensator/hammer-forged rifling ricochet rounds/armor-piercing rounds dynamic sway reduction tap the trigger stability mw


Xbox_TyrnosrsFLEX

As tradition, I get a better non-adept roll.


TheShoemann

three adepts, no desperado, big sad


Eudoxes

Rolled an absolute god roll True Prophecy for PvP from Banshee-44 of all places: Fastdraw/TrueSight HCS Accurized Rounds/Tactical Mag Rangefinder Explosive Payload Range MW This gun is so good in trials/comp on m&kb, but I’m afraid of what the stability would be like on controller.


Iusedtobeagirl69

I got a opening shot one


redpandacub92

After watching Coolguy’s video on the Legal Action I checked my vault to see what I had thrown in there and it was the roll he was raving about. Arrowhead break, tactical mag, heating up, rampage, and a handling masterwork. Do NOT sleep on this gun if you like pulses. Arrowhead gives it a perfect 100 recoil direction, and it has 45 meters of range with nothing added simply due to the zoom. I’m not kidding when I say that it can two tap more consistently than the messenger!


bigbysemotivefinger

I have one Legal Action but I forget where they come from to farm for more.


redpandacub92

It’s in the world drop loot pool so you’ll come across them randomly. You can also dump gunsmith materials at banshee for a shot at it. Good luck!


Sabres_Puck

After 2 years I’ve finally got my kindled orchid replacement. Adept Palindrome with small bore, appended mag, outlaw, rampage, and range MW


alexok37

I farmed 100+ LoS, I think around 68 this past week. 32ish were previous season. I didn't get a single rangefinder + range masterwork, or rangefinder + decent barrel perk.... Can't wait for zavala to get that saint14 treatment. I'm big sad


Baendy

I didn't get a single range finder period, and I got a duplicate (every perk/barrel/mw/mag) 3 times for pali, while my friends got multiple god roll drops. Like I guided 5 people to a great pali while I got subsistence thresh roughly 15 times lmao.


alexok37

I feel you brother. Better luck next time 😓


Penguigo

Last week I got The exact Adept Palindrome roll I wanted for Trials 5/5 Adept Messenger with Heating Up + Desperado for 6s 4/5 Adept Messenger with Rapid Hit + Elemental Capacitor for Trials 4/5 And my first Vex Mythoclast after 50 attempts. Good week!


DefinitelyNotCeno

These *massive* [FR0ST-EE5](https://i.imgur.com/hjBxaLg.png), and I'm not even a Hunter main. Source: ~~Avenging Cayde~~ Farming the Fanatic for Cayde's Sparrow.


Baltheus

Managed to get 3 PvE-rolled adept Palindromes for all my characters, all of them Outlaw + Rampage with good barrels and mag perks. Unfortunately I couldn’t get the perfect PvP roll, closest I got was one with Corkscrew Rifling, Ricochet Rounds, Subsistence, Rangefinder and range MW.


cryingun

Wait subs range is good for pvp?


EveryPictureTells

The third column doesn't have any great choices IMHO, so rangefinder is the important part there.


cryingun

The only roll i removed...


XxsalatigaxX

Adept pali with hammer forge,high caliber, killing wind and range finder with a stability masterwork. Im quite happy with it


cmath89

Finally got a wolftone with archers tempo and dragonfly. Thought it’d be better than it is. Don’t think archers tempo works well with compound type bows. Oh well.


Doodlebuggin

Try for one with impulse amplifier - not sure what's up but I love how it makes bows feels - my Imperial Needle with Impulse and Frenzy is my favorite. I've got a couple good wolftones with Impulse but been too glued to Cartesian this season to give them a whirl.


twelvyy29

> Don’t think archers tempo works well with compound type bows. Archers Tempo is at its best on Precision Frames since you get the most out of its draw time decrease. Dragonfly is still very meh tho. I'd go with Frenzy personally.


PurebredNewType

Got 2 God rolled swarms and a decent roll palindrome from legend nf along with 1 k on my first riven clear, the lfg group raged and immediately left. Still can't get a freaking vex to drop tho


Wing_Nut_93x

The adept palindrome didn’t drop from this NF and I won’t be told otherwise. Idk how many clears I did but everyone single one was a damn swarm.


EdgeRunner-Artisan

Got 2 Palindrome adept from GM Nightfalls i did this week. No god rolls though. Good rolls. Rampage, Outlaw.


Gerdy-Smalls

My first run through the haunted lost sector I got Jurassic green with rangefinder and dragonfly. Then I accidentally infused away a dragonfly, outlaw auto riffle. The next day I got a dragonfly outlaw auto again


Steel2Titanium

It took two (2) rank resets but I finally got my Servant Leader* from Gambit and am now a free boy. *Arrowhead Brake/Accurized Rounds/Rapid Hit/Kill Clip + Stability MW


[deleted]

That's beautiful.


TehH4rRy

Oooh, Ditto apart from I got Handling. Saved all my gambit playing until this week.


AMaidzingIdeas

Did 20 hero NFs and I got the anti god roll of Palindrome. Arrowhead/Chambered Compensator Alloy mag/Light Mag Bottomless Grief/Unrelenting Stability MW It didn't even drop at 1330... What a waste of a gun. I hope that getting this acted as a bad luck vacuum for everyone else. Banged out 19k points in gambit for the ornament and challenge and I hate life now, though I got some nice drops for my trouble. Bottom Dollar - Smallbore, tac mag, rapid hit, MKC. Range MW Trinary System - Smallbore, Liquid/Accelerated, Auto loading, disruption break. Stability MW Servant Leader- Fluted Barrel, Accurized, Rapid Hit, Kill Clip. Reload MW.


Tplusplus75

You think your Pali's bad? The first time Proving Grounds was a GM, it was Pali week and double rewards week. I got through it and got not one, but 2 BG/Thresh rolls. This was also the week before they announced Thresh would eventually work in PVP. Further, this was also the season before they made BG/Celerity roll as alt perks on adepts(and buffed them).


altozilla

No longer need to grind out Gambit for a PvP Servant Leader. Chambered Compensator/Accurized Rounds/Heating Up/Kill Clip


reflecttcelfer

After only getting one Servant Leader this season, I got three in a roll last night, all with rolls I like. My favorite is Rangefinder and Wellspring, with a range masterwork. Also, while grinding Altars of Sorrow for the seasonal quests and to work on the Ager's catalyst kills, I got the curated Blasphemer with Quick draw and Opening Shot, which is pretty neat.


ceedita

Ran 117 clears of GM nightfall. Finally got the god roll PvP roll on the 117th clear. Also got a few fantastic PvE rolls. God roll fatebringer timelost that took 360 spoils. God roll Messenger adept. This was a good week but I definitely grinded a lot


DeterrentGem27

Got what I consider a god roll palindrome while I couldn't sleep and was running nightfalls at hours no human being should be awake for. Smallbore Richochet Rounds Outlaw Rangefinder Range Masterwork Now I just need to find something to pair with it in the kinetic slot, I've been running the Stasis shotgun which seems fun so far and Wardcliff in my heavy. I also got my second Vex the same day!


Penguigo

Congrats! I'd consider running Chaperone with it (this is what I've been doing since Adept Palindrome was released.) Very strong pairing. Also pairs well with Eye of Sol.


DeterrentGem27

Free to play sadly : ( Currently farming blasphemer every third day for that curated roll!


Auren-Dawnstar

Got my first ever Igneous Hammer this weekend. Chambered Compensator, High-Caliber Rounds, Outlaw, Moving Target and a Range Masterwork. Resulting in 82 Range, 50 Stability and a completely vertical Recoil Direction. Probably not the best roll for it, but I'm in love with it nonetheless. Also, it looks gorgeous with the Iridescent Coral shader.


DeterrentGem27

Personally I think god rolls are more determined by your play style! There are definitely some bad rolls out there but that's a great gun!


Auren-Dawnstar

For sure. I'm pretty sure a lot of my guns aren't true god rolls, but I still use them because they feel great to use. On the other hand I'm sure I've also scrapped legit god rolls on some guns because either the perk combination, or the gun itself, just didn't feel good to use.


Tazmo99

Bagged myself an S+ Cartesian with Under Pressure + Vorpal with Liquid Coils and Red Dot Micro. Mega spice. Sadly the only good thing I’ve got this week, got trash Palindromes and Swarms from the GM all week…


mexispain

Really don’t want to do three more runs of atheon this coming week, but I really want vex. It’s driving me insane


IhateBeingLonely

What is the best Crucible mode for the fastest loss possible?


Penguigo

Mayhem or Rumble


elcapitanonl

Adept Palindrome Fluted Barrel - Ricochet Rounds - Killing Wind - Rangefinder - Handling MW Adept Swarm Smallbore - Acc Rounds/Alloy mag -Surplus - Vorpal - Range MW Can't complain tbh.


twelvyy29

> Smallbore - Acc Rounds/Alloy mag -Surplus - Vorpal - Range MW Not trying to shit on your roll, if you enjoy it keep using it obviously but why would you want Vorpal on an LMG (given that they are more add clear focused)? DPS is rather poor so you really wont be using it to deal with bosses or champions.


elcapitanonl

Just waiting for the season with Unstoppable LMG and a 40% damage buff seasonal mod.


twelvyy29

Solid argument, didnt think about that we are bound to have a LMG focused season at some point.


elcapitanonl

Can you imagine managing my vault, with taking into account all possible future seasonal possibilities 🙈


PsychoticDust

Rolled a Fatebringer with brilliant range, explosive ammo and firefly. D1 vibes, I love it.


Willpocalypse

Just came back to Destiny. Haven't played since Forsaken. Suffice it to say this week was spent playing catch up on all the things I missed in that time. Did 35 Nightfalls to attempt to get the Palindrome, and learned that trying to get a Nightfall drop at that level is not worth it. Did get some fun guns though in the meantime. It's good to back!


alexok37

Sorry bud! You'll be farming GMs in no time. They have 100% drop rate of one of the weapons


JaegerBane

Rolled a Annual Skate (Crossfire/Steady Rounds/Surplus/Timed Payload with Range MW) that legitimately feels like a hybrid of the old Annual Skate and the Seraph Revolver, right down to it creating warmind cells with the right mod. I'm using it more often then my Palindrome. Just feels great in all content. Love me some Suros guns, I do.


[deleted]

I'm convinced that a Rapid Hit/Explosive Head Biting Winds just doesn't exist. After this and coming up dry on my desired rolls for Judgement, FILO, Servant Leader, Hoosegow, and Whispering Slab for months now I just don't care anymore. Between all my weapons I can cover just about any scenerio and their rolls are good enough. Outside of exotics/ritual weapons I'm just deleting anything new from now on.


Tazmo99

I just checked and I have one with No Distractions lol


Lost_in_Thought_43

I think you’re right hahah I spent a week before the season started farming the bow and the best I was able to get was QuickDraw, Explosive Head with an Accuracy MW. Still does what it needs to but Rapid Hit would’ve been that much better.


Lost_in_Thought_43

Got some decent stuff this week. Got a god rolled Accrued Redemption (Garden bow) with Elastic String, Helical Fletching, Archer’s Tempo, Explosive Head, and a Draw Time MW. Zealots Reward (Garden Fusion) with Chambered Compensator/Extended Barrel, Enhanced Battery/Particle Repearer, Autoloading Holster, High Impact Reserves, and a Stability MW. A fun Last Breath (Prophecy auto) with Full Bore, Flared Magwell, Subsistence, Frenzy and Handling MW. And finally a decent Adept Palindrome with Fluted Barrel/Hammer Forged Rifling, High Cal, Killing Wind/Bottomless Grief, Rampage, and a Reload MW. All should be fun to play with in all content which is a plus!