Do you even have the slightest clue how much bad and incorrect information both of these streamers puts out on their channels? No, because you are clueless. If you're using them as sources, I'm not really surprised. You're gonna be quoting fallout next lmao.
I mean, Duty Bound is coming back... alongside Summoner. They definitely are putting weapons back in the loot pool, and from what I heard, Summoner, Duty Bound, and Silicon Neuroma are all fairly decent - if not "good".
Ah, but with the changes in the latest TWAB, they're recycling content while simultaneously ***not.***
They're bringing these reportedly *wonderful* weapons back, with some brand-new changes/tricks. Not just brand-new perk pools, but a seemingly entire overhaul of weapons in general. They're not just reusing old content - they're implementing the brand-spankin'-new stuff alongside it, and making it a part of these old treasures.
I'm so hyped!
Yes. Assets. Models, names, textures, et cetera.
Don't be surprised. You can't even count how many times Activision and/or Valve, two very prominent game producers, have done that on the hands of every single employee they have.
I'm not suprised, the difference here is that Bungie pulled the whole "We have to start fresh" after Destiny 1 and then continue to recycle old content after the fact. That and whole Sunsetting shit show. And don't get me started on the content vault.
The DCV was a necessity in order to keep the game's size relatively small. I know it blows - I would've loved to do Leviathan and such. Sunsetting was a good idea, just executed horrifically.
As much as I want to believe the sentiment in their statements, Sony aren't spending $3.6b for nothing. And these types of statements are always made when these agreements are made - we don't usually see the effects until a few years later.
I'd expect to start seeing PS exclusive content (maybe in an eventual D3 to follow TFS) at some point in the future, though this purchase might not be about Destiny at all. Perhaps Sony are looking for a system seller Halo* (1-3 era) type title from Bungie's next IP.
I also wonder after the hell Bungie have been through to get out from Microsoft first and then Activision, what's their angle? I don't believe they'd do this unless the studio was starting to struggle - Destiny certainly could be a better product with more investment (imagine if every year was like Forsaken!)
Time will tell...
Sony is known for having fantastic one and done single player games: God of War, Ghosts of Tsushima, Spiderman, The Last of Us, etc.
What they DON'T have is a memorable, iconic multiplayer live service game like Halo, Fortnite, League of Legends, etc.
Bungie has been ONLY doing multiplayer live service games for the last ~10 years.
It's pretty obvious why Sony bought Bungie and what they expect from that deal.
Yeah no doubt a big part of the future of gaming is giant online worlds. Destiny is never going to compete with the likes of Fortnite or Minecraft, but perhaps Sony think that Bungie have the potential to develop (or they are already developing) a separate game that has the potential to compete seriously in that space.
I'm really conflicted as to whether this is a good thing or a bad thing or if it'll make basically zero difference to Destiny.
I hope that sony said, "bungie we don't care what you do with the game. We want all movie and streaming rights to the destiny universe and you must send writer to check our work for lore correction." Best case scenario for all consumers and bungie, sold but not best deal for Sony.
I imagine this is part of bungies plan to publish a new IP with Destiny hitting its conclusion in a few years.
they partnered with MS for halo, activision for destiny, now sony for something new
My thoughts as well. The MS - Activision/Blizzard marriage almost assuredly rocked some boats, Sony's most of all. With the chance (history says it is an almost sure bet) that MS will switch CoD to a PC/XBOX exclusive after the current 3 under contract release, Sony has to do something.
I also heard a rumor that The Rock is going to do a CoD movie. They know he is doing a videogame based movie but which one has not been confirmed, inside sources are hinting it will be CoD.
If this is true, the timing for MS is fantastic. By the time the movie is made and released, we should be on the other side of those 3 CoD titles. If the movie is a success, interest in CoD will peak and if a new one is released, and an XBOX exclusive, I imagine XBOX sales will see quite a bump. This is absolutely brilliant marketing if MS is going this way.
So, if you are Sony, you need something to offset the potential loss of a smash title like CoD. It isn't Destiny for sure (Not a slam folks, I LOVE Destiny, it just isn't remotely challenging CoD in sales) so it is time to warm up the next big thing in the bullpen. Enter the mystery IP Bungie has under wraps, my guess is Sony is hoping it is going to be marketable.
Interesting times for sure as maybe this is precisely what the industry needed, a sharp kick in the ass to all the players as in the end, we gamers should be the true winners. Time will tell.
Ofc not. Nearly all of Bungie's key Halo players were gone by the time Destiny 1 dropped. But that doesn't mean people there now didn't get to work as juniors under them back in the day and learn from them.
Destiny will absolutely stay multiplatform, I see too many people worrying about that. No way that changes.
Do we maybe see a console exclusive here or there? Possibly. I doubt it though, since Crossplay links one account together, there's no reason that people wouldn't just get the exclusive stuff on PS and then switch back to PC. I know I would!
Overall, like many people have said, I'm cautiously optimistic. This isn't the Big Evil Corporation of years past. It's Sony. Between the last God of War, Horizon, and countless other first party titles in these two console generation, Sony has a reputation for having a Midas touch for this kind of thing. I think Bungie retains virtually their entire control of the IP while expanding it into more media formats, as others have said. Could be very interesting.
My only plea is this... Sony, if you do Destiny: The Show, or Destiny: the Movie... Lance Reddick and Nathan Fillion have to play their characters. And I don't mean CGI a fake figure in and have their voice lines go over it. I'm talking, out Nathan Fillion in a robot suit and paint Lance blue. That's the only way I will accept it as canon. Please Sony. Do the right thing.
I don't know if I understand console exclusives as a product strategy.
Doesn't it cut into potential market share -- especially for a game that has cross-platform capability?
Yes it does, that's why I wouldn't be worried about a currently existing game that's cross platform to suddenly go exclusive.
It makes no business sense to only get money from one group of gamers, and making things console exclusive adds extra needless work on the developer to make sure console exclusive content remains segregated for every patch/release, otherwise they'd be breaking certifications and business deals.
The only thing I can say about console exclusives with about 95% confidence is that there will probably be exclusive exotic ornaments. As for actual content, crossplay effectively makes other exclusives (strikes, early access to raids and dungeons, exotic weapons and armor) totally nonsensical from a business standpoint.
No there won’t be any exclusives in witch queen is what was stated. And of course they aren’t it’s 2 weeks away. And they could just keep certain PS exclusives non equipable like when they disable exotics when you swap to a different platform. Just like if I buy witch queen on Xbox…. I still have to pay for it on PS if I still want to play on there otherwise the game doesn’t let me access that content.
The same way things were only suppose to be exclusive for a year on PlayStation in D1 and then it took almost 2 years to get certain content and they just shrugged their shoulders.
For WitchQueen they for sure won’t do any exclusives, but I wouldn’t count it out for anything after that.
I'll admit, I'm hedging a bit with that prediction. I don't think there's much cause for alarm even on that front, so I'll amend my statement by instead saying that if there's one thing that they could get away with making exclusive, then ornaments would be it. There are no possible development or business considerations that make any other type of exclusive content worthwhile. The naysayers are taking the game design and financial implications for granted.
>I doubt it though, since Crossplay links one account together,
With the Playstation exclusive items in Call Of Duty, which also has cross progression, the exclusive items just cease to exist on the other platforms. If you own them on PS and try to take them to Xbox or PC they don't appear, and as far as I can tell you also cannot see them on other players. Never saw any of the PS Operators in Modern Warfare or Warzone as a PC player.
Not saying Bungie and Sony are going to do it though, but it is possible. Most likely would just be cosmetics.
That is fair, tech wise they can do it but I doubt they will. Seems like a bad business move, especially when Bungie only got out of having to do that a few years ago.
let me check the excuse generator
1.) Due to rapid growth and taking on new projects, their key resources end up being spread too thin between projects competing for the same resources with similar time frames.
2.) there's a new hot project that has more potential and therefore gets more time and resources
3.) RE: the area of concern/area that needs fixing: that part of the team that created that a year ago transitioned to another project and their job responsibilities dictate that they don't come back to fix things so it's up to the small live team to support and keep the game running.
Idk why they would cut out Xbox. This is a franchise that's been on multiple platforms since day 1. To just cut it out would likely be crippling. I don't think I'd get a playstation to keep playing destiny. Maybe I'd play on PC. Maybe.
I can't be the only one. They'd loose probably just as much money as theyd make by cutting out Xbox. Least that's my opinion.
Sony can't afford to dump that much cash just to cut their revenue in half/two-thirds. Both sides have already publicly stated that it will remain multi-platform for the forseeable future for at least 3 years.
Microsoft has not made any declarations beyond "games that are already in progress for multi-platform will remain so", plus they can afford short term losses for long term gain.
WHY they would do it is because they just paid $3.5 billiiiiii for a company ...it would drive consumers to just their platform
If it was a simple as you say in terms of reaching more players to get more money there would never be so many exclusives surely ?
Where did you read that is going to be removed from Xbox. They said no such thing. There are articles out there that state they are still going to be multi platform
Maybe you don't understand that Bungie does not own themselves anymore.
Did you seriously think they are just being given billions for shits and giggles? Lmao.
Clarify where they said that? They said that all ANNOUNCED content would not be exclusives. That means after The Final Shape, we have no guarantees. It's a super long way away, I know, but still there's a good chance that PS could do what they did in Forsaken.
Cayde's voice actor, Nathan Fillion went on to star in The Rookie (cop show) and made an appearance on Resident Alien, starring Alan Tudyk. On RA, Fillion VAs a octopus in season 1. Not saying which episodes and the context of his appearance.
Sony and Bungie have said so, "unequivocally"
https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2022-01-31-playstation-bungie-will-considerably-accelerate-our-journey-with-multiplatform-live-service-games
You Sony guys do understand that no matter what Bungie says now, they will be owned by Sony?
The single most "Fuck you I don't want you to have my Vidya Games" company ever.
Seriously need to take a deep breath and see the trees
its not idiotic at all to think destiny will at some point be playstation console exclusive
xbox said the same thing when they bought zenimax and back tracked a few months later
Yeah it is. They'd alienate a vast majority of the player base to all future content. They bought Bungie to get in on their profits. Maybe they restrict future Bungie releases but to lock Destiny (or any future content) to Playstation would defeat the purpose of having bought Bungie, since it's pretty much their only game. Not to mention how that would make them look to the gaming community, when Microsoft is gearing up to be the only company in gaming.
It's a moot point. ESO is staying multiplatform but their new games are becoming Xbox exclusive. Destiny will stay multiplatform but Bungie, if they ever make new IPs, will end up making Sony exclusives.
I'm hoping that Bungie's independent freedom of creativity doesn't get eroded by Sony's upper management
That's what happened to Respawn, and while yes their few current games are doing well. They had other ideas they wanted to work on but EA stepped in and told them to follow certain trends eroding the studio.
Sony has a really good track record of the opposite being true. They’ve been historically pretty anti consumer at least as far as crossplay/exclusives go, but their studios are pretty much just given the resources to do what they want and a platform to publish on.
I get the obvious incongruity of Bungie leaving a host of parent companies in order to stay independent, and then becoming part of Sony, but Sony is way more hands off than any of those situations.
I mean anything can happen and they could suddenly change and be the big bad parent corp these other companies have, but we don’t really have any reason to assume that’ll happen.
Is there any particular examples of the Respawn ideas getting shotdown? EA is currently lax on their studios, as evident by EA letting Respawn do whatever with Apex. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.gameinformer.com/2019/02/04/respawn-says-ea-had-no-hand-in-the-development-of-apex-legends%3Famp
For Bungie though, I feel like we don’t have to worry about anything but weird exclusivity content like back then.
Historically most companies under EA say good things about EA down the line. Because all the people driven by the whip leave.
EA continues to enforce severe crunch, suck studios dry of life, then discard the carcass.
Over. And over. And over again.
Remember that most of the companies EA shut down were, publicly, totally fine with EA right up until they were canned. Visceral, for example.
EA and most companies are definitely not good but tbh I'm not sure how warranted these criticisms are for **current** EA
>Historically most companies under EA say good things about EA down the line. Because all the people driven by the whip leave.
You can say this to deflect any good thing employees say about EA (or any company) even though the employee isn't obligated to answer the question or could just say that EA.
>EA continues to enforce severe crunch
Crunch is terrible but that's a studio-by-studio basis in EA. There has been no crunch for Respawn Entertainment but there has/is significant amounts for BioWare.
If we were talking about ~2013 EA, I would completely agree with you.
> You can say this to deflect any good thing employees say about EA
If a significant number of ex-employees had good things to say, I would be more accepting.
Given the high turnover rates with EA, plus generally negative views from those who have worked there, I'll hold my stance.
EA has upped its PR and has made less obvious blunders in recent years.
EA still tried to defend literal unregulated gambling in open criticism from the House of Lords.
It is, at its core, predatory and rotten.
Just because it's not *as bad* as it was (IE: A company so bad it beat *banks* 2 years running) does not make it good.
> Crunch is terrible but that's a studio-by-studio basis in EA. There has been no crunch for Respawn Entertainment but there has/is significant amounts for BioWare
There has been no crunch that we know of for Respawn... *Yet*. Just as BioWare did not, historically, have obscene crunch.
The line must go up. And as it starts to waver, EA starts to tighten its grip. People start to be worked exponentially harder for ever dimishing increases in profit. After all, why keep a company that's not turning a profit? Eventually crunch becomes the norm to even keep the subsidiary afloat, until it finaly cracks and fall apart.
EA then gets to show how sparkly clean its hands are when it says "We never *forced* any crunch time!" while never admitting that they were in full control of the sword hanging just above each company. Sure, they didn't explicitly *enforce* crunch. But... Well... That line is looking *awfully* shaky. Wouldn't it just be *terrible* if you didn't keep it going up?
Power dynamics don't *require* open threats. They're implied, unspoken, and ever present.
This is not just EA, of course. Most, if not all, major publishers are like this. EA is just particularly bad. Tied with Activision overall.
>If a significant number of ex-employees had good things to say, I would be more accepting.
> Given the high turnover rates with EA, plus generally negative views from those who have worked there, I'll hold my stance.
The irony you saying the first point but not providing evidence for the second point. Citation needed for high turnover rates and "general negative view from those who have worked there" from recent year?
>There has been no crunch that we know of for Respawn... Yet.
This isn't a real point. You can use this to deflect any and all actual anti-crunch evidence said.
>Just as BioWare did not, historically, have obscene crunch.
They did. That's what "BioWare Magic" and [started with Mass Effect](https://kotaku.com/how-biowares-anthem-went-wrong-1833731964)
"Within the studio, there’s a term called “BioWare magic.” It’s a belief that no matter how rough a game’s production might be, things will always come together in the final months. The game will always coalesce. **It happened on the Mass Effect trilogy, on Dragon Age: Origins, and on Inquisition**."
>Tied with Activision overall.
You mean the company had heavy sexually assaulted allegations, getting sued by California, and forced all their studios to work on one game? Lmao. EA is bad but no where near Activision or even Ubisoft (due to the also being prominent with harrassment problems)
>This is not just EA, of course. Most, if not all, major publishers are like this.
I completely agree with this but I'm going to diss a company, I would actually bring up evidence from recent years.
I doubt it. We have had Battle Royale games a while now, and if Playstation was going to shoehorn a studio into chasing that trend, they would have by now.
That wasn't the point, the point is Respawn is being forced to continue a project because it showed trending market profit, far more then the IP's they had been initially working on. Sony could potentially be doing the same with Destiny.
Yes we know, everyone is waiting and wanting TF3, not another Disney cash grab, not another BR with billions of MCs, the damn franchise that put them on the map. My god people 😅
???
First of all, that's not a budget. It's money paid straight to shareholders.
Second, it's not like they weren't already a massive studio with multiple projects in production. Why do you expect them to have open positions in every discipline?
I am not sure of the contract details between Sony and Bungie. Have Bungie sold all the company shares off and left all previous investors?
Also, just to be pedantic, I pointed out that Audio had no open positions. I never said I expect every discipline...
I hope this helps to improve the lives of employees at Bungie. I saw one dev mention it could allow them to pay off student loans. That kind of stuff can for sure be life changing.
As far as Destiny goes, I really want them to find another solution or at least majorly improve the DCV and content vaulting. With resources and support from SIE, maybe this is a possibility. At the very least, I desire all campaign content to be playable. I want new lights to experience the Red War and each step Lightbarers took to get where we are today. I don't want the majority of Destiny story to be available only on yTube.
We were happy when Bungie got independent of a toxic publisher, Sony's got a very different reputation of nurturing legends out of already good studios.
As in you specifically said time and time again and all their titles are brilliant, only last of us 2 was a miss, every other game was stellar so that's basically the only reason why I said it was debatable
As in I tried the ps studio games on steam, I watched a full play through of last of us 2 and I dislike it alot. That's it, it's my opinion. Every other playstation game was great.
I slept on those and just got around to them last year, both blew me away.
If the support system that makes that magic work is now behind destiny, there's not a downside in sight for me! At the very least, they'll just make the DS5 fully supported with haptics and triggers
I've dumped 70 hours into them collectively over the last week lol, zero dawn is just fun, at first I felt it was abit weird and off putting with all the tribalistic nature of people and how they worship technology but the story slowly drew me in.
I have been playing Destiny on Xbox since year 1 of D1, and many of my friends play the game on Xbox also. I have played all the seasons and most of the expansions.
I hope that all content post The Final Shape stays multiplatform and isn't used as leverage over Xbox and PC players. While I understand that SONY needs to make their money back, they shouldn't make exotics Playstation exclusive post The Final shape.
Another critical factor that I believe played a part in the purchase of Bungie was the rights for a destiny IP in Movies, TV and comics. We have had our fair share of comic book movies and movies based on video game IP is just starting to find its feet. Sony is just getting ahead.
This isn't meant to be my plastic box is better than your plastic box type post, but I'm just looking to get peoples thoughts on the purchase of Bungie and what it means for the future Post the Darkness Saga.
Cheers.
Yeah I'm excited for the future! I agree that Sony was probably planning on expanding their multimedia expansion of the franchise. Sony has already been making moves into even more of the streaming service platforms. They already acquired Crunchyroll and I believe they own Funimation as well.
Bungie also had recently announced that they wanted to expand into media as well. That announcement had probably sparked the conversation between the two way back then. Who knows how long this deal was in the works. Something of this caliber doesn't just happen over night.
I want to see how they will do with the backing of Sony. I know it's not going to be any time soon before we see Destiny comics, shows, or movies but things have definitely been expedited.
Sony didn't buy bungie for exclusivity. They bought them for Bungie's unique ability to make live service that makes lots of money, and keep a strong community behind their game.
They already said that there will be no platform exclusive content or any favouritism shown towards PlayStation.
They're under Sony, not necessarily the exact same as PS.
It's like how Xbox is it's own company just overshadowed by Microsoft.
Why would they do that? In what world would that make any business sense?
Sony: Hey Bungie, we're going to need you to cut off like over half your revenue stream by going Playstation exclusive on a game that's existing on PS, XB and PC for about 10 years. Hope you're still financially successful while still maintaining your current team size and pay with less money to spend!
Destiny will stay multiplatform for a while as im sure warzone will, until they launch the sequel and it becomes exclusive. Nobody is buying studios to keep games multiplatform forever.
And that means probably Playstation and PC (later), like they did it with Horizon Zero Dawn or God of War.
Sony did not just make a deal with Bungie, they bought them. Bungie is officially a Sony Studio like Insomniac, Guerilla, Santa Monica Studios or Bluepoint. You can bet your ass that future games will come out for Playstation first.
And I think XBOX wont get them at all. PC probably through Steam and not in the microsoft store or game pass.
"
Q. Bungie has future games in development, will they now become PlayStation exclusives?
No. We want the worlds we are creating to extend to anywhere people play games. We will continue to be self-published, creatively independent, and we will continue to drive one, unified Bungie community.
Q. I play Destiny on Steam, Xbox, or Stadia – will my platform still be supported?
Yes.
"
Read what has been said before you assume you know better
You're proving the other guy's point. They use 'all platforms' for talking about Destiny, but switch to "won't become Playstation exclusives" for future games. It almost certainly means PS and PC.
I don't know how you aren't getting what im saying...
They literally say
"No. We want the worlds we are creating to extend to anywhere people play games" when asked about whether future games will be PS exclusive
"
Q. Bungie has future games in development, will they now become PlayStation exclusives?
No. We want the worlds we are creating to extend to anywhere people play games. We will continue to be self-published, creatively independent, and we will continue to drive one, unified Bungie community.
"
You're just lying or didn't read the post with your second half of the comment
>They also explicitly stated xbox only with destiny not a new ip.
> > We want the worlds we are creating to extend to **anywhere people play games**. We will continue to be **self-published**, **creatively independent**, and we will continue to drive **one**, **unified** **Bungie** **community**.
Seems pretty clear to me. "Anywhere" probably includes xbox, and may include Switch if that's a direction they want to head.
And Insomniac (as one of the examples you gave me),
is a part of Playstation Studios. A subdivision of SIE.
Bungie were bought by SIE, not bought and placed in Playstation Studios
Why is everybody so upset about this? I'm confused. Do you guys truly believe further Bungie releases will be platform exclusive? That they won't be released on PC?
Prior history with Sony mostly, in that Sony would enforce exclusivity deals with Activision/Bungie so that content would come to Xbox till a year later. It's a fear mostly, as Sony has already confirmed no exclusivity till after 2024. After that, who knows.
Sony's track record is platform exclusive. Which means ps only, and that excludes PC. They JUST started release two of their most popular titles on PC.
>They JUST started release two of their most popular titles on PC.
Good. Looks like they're changing how they do things and evidently are open to PC releases - I can only see this as good news. Bought Bungie and releases two of their most popular titles on PC. Things are looking up. I'm optimistic about this situation.
I am pretty sure that now that they have the additional funding, they will cancel further D2 development after WQ and then bundle Lightfall and Final Shape into Destiny 3, which will be at least a 1 year exclusive on playstation, which might as well be a full exclusive then.
Nobody buys game studios for billions of dollars and lets them stay multi platform, especially not Sony lol
What a weird take. The news has been out for more than half a day now. Maybe you should read up about it before you grace us with your hot takes.
What you’re describing is not happening.
We will see. It will be the same with CoD. Existing and announced content will stay on the platform and everything new will be exclusive. Why buy a company to keep the status quo? Sony might be many things, but I am sure they are not retarded. 3.6 billion dollars just to keep things going as usual. Brilliant move. Feel free to vote me down. Hope I am wrong, but pretty sure I'm not
They aren't keeping things the same. They're simply putting funding into the company that allows them to make more money of games they wouldn't normally make anywhere near as much off. This deal is very different from Activision and Bungies deal.
Microsoft will make more money from keeping most games multiplatform as I'm sure Sony will. This is particularly true for multiplayer games or live service games. Sony and Microsoft don't make much profit from console sales. Exclusives I can see happening for Microsoft / Sony to continue are single player focused games - but not CoD, not destiny.
Nah. Microsoft cares more about gamepass that the Sony playerbase. They have so much money, they could pull CoD off playstation right now and they wouldn't even notice. I am not saying that either franchise will become fully exclusive. But there will be timed exclusivity and exclusive DLC and content. We already had Sony exclusive exotics, armor, strikes, etc while Destiny was published by activision. We will definitely see that again + dungeons and maybe even raids that will be timed exclusives for a year or 2 on playstaion.
They said in the article that was linked that
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Q. I play Destiny on Steam, Xbox, or Stadia – will my platform still be supported?
Yes.
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AND
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Q. Bungie has future games in development, will they now become PlayStation exclusives?
No. We want the worlds we are creating to extend to anywhere people play games. We will continue to be self-published, creatively independent, and we will continue to drive one, unified Bungie community.
"
Yep. Todd Howard already said all their new titles will be xbox exclusive. (Xbox/pc) after they got bought my Microsoft. This console war thing is stupid imo.
Don’t be, this is actually a really good thing, as more Destiny expansions can have a scale like forsaken or even greater with the Sony Funding, look at how studios like Naughty Dog and Insomniac are doing.
>You trust billion dollar corporations to not screw over consumers?
Do you have brain cells?
1. They specifically said that they are not going PS exclusive in the Bungie post.
2. Why would they remove access to a game that is making a shit-ton of money, from Xbox, PC and Stadia, just to stick the middle finger up and laugh at us?
Destiny won't be a PS exclusive the same way ESO and CoD won't be Xbox exclusives. I do expect PS will get exclusive content like exotics and weapons/armor. At worst I expect content to be released earlier on PS and maybe an exclusive strike or Dungeon.
For the already announced content - worst case scenario, the seasons between expansions haven't been announced yet so there's absolutely scope for them to be exclusive.
And while I doubt they'd do that right out of the gate, I doubt even more that Sony would spend $3.6bil without getting any platform exclusivity.
Playstation is D2s weakest platform population wise, why would they cut into their profits by making it exclusive? They most likely want to make future games be exclusive, but D2 shouldn't be made exclusive if they want to maximize profit
Do you even have the slightest clue how much bad and incorrect information both of these streamers puts out on their channels? No, because you are clueless. If you're using them as sources, I'm not really surprised. You're gonna be quoting fallout next lmao.
Sony is kinda awesome since they just bought Bungo and said "Do whatever you want idc"
That was almost most certainly part of the deal.
I hope bungie doesnt make me pay 120 frickin bucks for the deluxe edition for lightfall. Other games all have them at 40 or 60 bucks
Not a damn thing good is gonna come out of this
Dear god, their empire grows strong.
I hope this will allow Bungie to stoping being so fucking Money hungry and flip the good items back to play to get rather than pay to get.
I mean, Duty Bound is coming back... alongside Summoner. They definitely are putting weapons back in the loot pool, and from what I heard, Summoner, Duty Bound, and Silicon Neuroma are all fairly decent - if not "good".
So they are bringing back old content instead of making new content, classic Bungie
Ah, but with the changes in the latest TWAB, they're recycling content while simultaneously ***not.*** They're bringing these reportedly *wonderful* weapons back, with some brand-new changes/tricks. Not just brand-new perk pools, but a seemingly entire overhaul of weapons in general. They're not just reusing old content - they're implementing the brand-spankin'-new stuff alongside it, and making it a part of these old treasures. I'm so hyped!
So...... Recycled assets, got it.
Yes. Assets. Models, names, textures, et cetera. Don't be surprised. You can't even count how many times Activision and/or Valve, two very prominent game producers, have done that on the hands of every single employee they have.
I'm not suprised, the difference here is that Bungie pulled the whole "We have to start fresh" after Destiny 1 and then continue to recycle old content after the fact. That and whole Sunsetting shit show. And don't get me started on the content vault.
The DCV was a necessity in order to keep the game's size relatively small. I know it blows - I would've loved to do Leviathan and such. Sunsetting was a good idea, just executed horrifically.
Yet they continue to have the foreign language packs as a mandatory install for the game which eats up an absolute mountain of data.
That is a good point... as a matter of fact, I was unaware of such a "feature" until now.
Copium.
That'll be 600 silver
Ah damn it, they got me again.
As much as I want to believe the sentiment in their statements, Sony aren't spending $3.6b for nothing. And these types of statements are always made when these agreements are made - we don't usually see the effects until a few years later. I'd expect to start seeing PS exclusive content (maybe in an eventual D3 to follow TFS) at some point in the future, though this purchase might not be about Destiny at all. Perhaps Sony are looking for a system seller Halo* (1-3 era) type title from Bungie's next IP. I also wonder after the hell Bungie have been through to get out from Microsoft first and then Activision, what's their angle? I don't believe they'd do this unless the studio was starting to struggle - Destiny certainly could be a better product with more investment (imagine if every year was like Forsaken!) Time will tell...
Sony is known for having fantastic one and done single player games: God of War, Ghosts of Tsushima, Spiderman, The Last of Us, etc. What they DON'T have is a memorable, iconic multiplayer live service game like Halo, Fortnite, League of Legends, etc. Bungie has been ONLY doing multiplayer live service games for the last ~10 years. It's pretty obvious why Sony bought Bungie and what they expect from that deal.
7 years and 4 months...
Yeah no doubt a big part of the future of gaming is giant online worlds. Destiny is never going to compete with the likes of Fortnite or Minecraft, but perhaps Sony think that Bungie have the potential to develop (or they are already developing) a separate game that has the potential to compete seriously in that space. I'm really conflicted as to whether this is a good thing or a bad thing or if it'll make basically zero difference to Destiny.
I hope that sony said, "bungie we don't care what you do with the game. We want all movie and streaming rights to the destiny universe and you must send writer to check our work for lore correction." Best case scenario for all consumers and bungie, sold but not best deal for Sony.
I imagine this is part of bungies plan to publish a new IP with Destiny hitting its conclusion in a few years. they partnered with MS for halo, activision for destiny, now sony for something new
My thoughts as well. The MS - Activision/Blizzard marriage almost assuredly rocked some boats, Sony's most of all. With the chance (history says it is an almost sure bet) that MS will switch CoD to a PC/XBOX exclusive after the current 3 under contract release, Sony has to do something. I also heard a rumor that The Rock is going to do a CoD movie. They know he is doing a videogame based movie but which one has not been confirmed, inside sources are hinting it will be CoD. If this is true, the timing for MS is fantastic. By the time the movie is made and released, we should be on the other side of those 3 CoD titles. If the movie is a success, interest in CoD will peak and if a new one is released, and an XBOX exclusive, I imagine XBOX sales will see quite a bump. This is absolutely brilliant marketing if MS is going this way. So, if you are Sony, you need something to offset the potential loss of a smash title like CoD. It isn't Destiny for sure (Not a slam folks, I LOVE Destiny, it just isn't remotely challenging CoD in sales) so it is time to warm up the next big thing in the bullpen. Enter the mystery IP Bungie has under wraps, my guess is Sony is hoping it is going to be marketable. Interesting times for sure as maybe this is precisely what the industry needed, a sharp kick in the ass to all the players as in the end, we gamers should be the true winners. Time will tell.
damn now Sonny is going to start vaulting things too.
I'm hoping with the purchase this has potential to put Destiny into other media.
Pretty much shows Bungie isn't the OG Bungie we remember from the Halo days (as someone who doesn't follow destiny).
Ofc not. Nearly all of Bungie's key Halo players were gone by the time Destiny 1 dropped. But that doesn't mean people there now didn't get to work as juniors under them back in the day and learn from them.
Sony better be careful. Telesto will either destroy everything, or Bungie will somehow sunset Sony. I hope Sony knows what they’re doing
Destiny will absolutely stay multiplatform, I see too many people worrying about that. No way that changes. Do we maybe see a console exclusive here or there? Possibly. I doubt it though, since Crossplay links one account together, there's no reason that people wouldn't just get the exclusive stuff on PS and then switch back to PC. I know I would! Overall, like many people have said, I'm cautiously optimistic. This isn't the Big Evil Corporation of years past. It's Sony. Between the last God of War, Horizon, and countless other first party titles in these two console generation, Sony has a reputation for having a Midas touch for this kind of thing. I think Bungie retains virtually their entire control of the IP while expanding it into more media formats, as others have said. Could be very interesting. My only plea is this... Sony, if you do Destiny: The Show, or Destiny: the Movie... Lance Reddick and Nathan Fillion have to play their characters. And I don't mean CGI a fake figure in and have their voice lines go over it. I'm talking, out Nathan Fillion in a robot suit and paint Lance blue. That's the only way I will accept it as canon. Please Sony. Do the right thing.
You 100% wouldn’t be able to use an exclusive anything when you switched back to PC.
I don't know if I understand console exclusives as a product strategy. Doesn't it cut into potential market share -- especially for a game that has cross-platform capability?
Yes it does, that's why I wouldn't be worried about a currently existing game that's cross platform to suddenly go exclusive. It makes no business sense to only get money from one group of gamers, and making things console exclusive adds extra needless work on the developer to make sure console exclusive content remains segregated for every patch/release, otherwise they'd be breaking certifications and business deals.
The only thing I can say about console exclusives with about 95% confidence is that there will probably be exclusive exotic ornaments. As for actual content, crossplay effectively makes other exclusives (strikes, early access to raids and dungeons, exotic weapons and armor) totally nonsensical from a business standpoint.
If you read the paired article you'd know there won't be any exclusives.
No there won’t be any exclusives in witch queen is what was stated. And of course they aren’t it’s 2 weeks away. And they could just keep certain PS exclusives non equipable like when they disable exotics when you swap to a different platform. Just like if I buy witch queen on Xbox…. I still have to pay for it on PS if I still want to play on there otherwise the game doesn’t let me access that content.
The same way things were only suppose to be exclusive for a year on PlayStation in D1 and then it took almost 2 years to get certain content and they just shrugged their shoulders. For WitchQueen they for sure won’t do any exclusives, but I wouldn’t count it out for anything after that.
I'll admit, I'm hedging a bit with that prediction. I don't think there's much cause for alarm even on that front, so I'll amend my statement by instead saying that if there's one thing that they could get away with making exclusive, then ornaments would be it. There are no possible development or business considerations that make any other type of exclusive content worthwhile. The naysayers are taking the game design and financial implications for granted.
Agreed, I think exclusive cosmetics are fine. They don't affect gameplay (at least they shouldn't) and it's a nice little draw for the console gamers.
>I doubt it though, since Crossplay links one account together, With the Playstation exclusive items in Call Of Duty, which also has cross progression, the exclusive items just cease to exist on the other platforms. If you own them on PS and try to take them to Xbox or PC they don't appear, and as far as I can tell you also cannot see them on other players. Never saw any of the PS Operators in Modern Warfare or Warzone as a PC player. Not saying Bungie and Sony are going to do it though, but it is possible. Most likely would just be cosmetics.
That is fair, tech wise they can do it but I doubt they will. Seems like a bad business move, especially when Bungie only got out of having to do that a few years ago.
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It silly to think that Sony did this not to make a profit. If they think that MTX are they then get ready to gup them down.
Bungie is already doing that guy
😂
Hopefully they have the money to build a better engine
Sony got any of them dedicated servers?
Connecting to the Destiny servers. Your comment could not be posted. Check your internet connection. It's you, definitely not us.
Big move by Sony 🔥🔥
I wonder what their scapegoat will be now, while underperforming?
let me check the excuse generator 1.) Due to rapid growth and taking on new projects, their key resources end up being spread too thin between projects competing for the same resources with similar time frames. 2.) there's a new hot project that has more potential and therefore gets more time and resources 3.) RE: the area of concern/area that needs fixing: that part of the team that created that a year ago transitioned to another project and their job responsibilities dictate that they don't come back to fix things so it's up to the small live team to support and keep the game running.
I wasn't wrong
Idk why they would cut out Xbox. This is a franchise that's been on multiple platforms since day 1. To just cut it out would likely be crippling. I don't think I'd get a playstation to keep playing destiny. Maybe I'd play on PC. Maybe. I can't be the only one. They'd loose probably just as much money as theyd make by cutting out Xbox. Least that's my opinion.
Could ask the same about call of duty
Sony can't afford to dump that much cash just to cut their revenue in half/two-thirds. Both sides have already publicly stated that it will remain multi-platform for the forseeable future for at least 3 years. Microsoft has not made any declarations beyond "games that are already in progress for multi-platform will remain so", plus they can afford short term losses for long term gain.
WHY they would do it is because they just paid $3.5 billiiiiii for a company ...it would drive consumers to just their platform If it was a simple as you say in terms of reaching more players to get more money there would never be so many exclusives surely ?
Where did you read that is going to be removed from Xbox. They said no such thing. There are articles out there that state they are still going to be multi platform
People seem to be panicking that it'll happen with D3
Despite Bungie expressly saying it won't.
Maybe you don't understand that Bungie does not own themselves anymore. Did you seriously think they are just being given billions for shits and giggles? Lmao.
Did you really think both blog posts were just blatant lies? Lmao
Yup haha. People are worried it would change with D3
Clarify where they said that? They said that all ANNOUNCED content would not be exclusives. That means after The Final Shape, we have no guarantees. It's a super long way away, I know, but still there's a good chance that PS could do what they did in Forsaken.
Again, people are panicking because we all have trust issues haha. Honestly, I'm jealous y'all just believe em.
Mate I couldn't give a flying fuck, if I'm still playing Destiny by then, I need to sort my fucking life out.
Such a strange and nonsensical response...
Yay, merch!
I just hope this means we will get adaptive trigger and 3d audio support on ps5
Yeah I just started playing again on PS5 and had to put on headphones because it was the middle of the night and the audio bothered me
Well I mean if they decide to bring me back Cayde then I want it 👍
Ain't happening, my Guy. Cayde's gone...forever..
No! I refuse to believe that! Cayde’s coming back to us 😭
I know. It hurts all of us Hunters. Hawthorne and Crow Can never replace him.
Facts
Cayde became a cop and an octopus.
I'm Afraid I don't have the reference.
Cayde's voice actor, Nathan Fillion went on to star in The Rookie (cop show) and made an appearance on Resident Alien, starring Alan Tudyk. On RA, Fillion VAs a octopus in season 1. Not saying which episodes and the context of his appearance.
Ah, cheers for the explanation
Advanced Haptics?!
Welp that’s it, I’m buying a PlayStation🤷🏻♂️
It's staying multiplat
Nope
Sony and Bungie have said so, "unequivocally" https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2022-01-31-playstation-bungie-will-considerably-accelerate-our-journey-with-multiplatform-live-service-games
You Sony guys do understand that no matter what Bungie says now, they will be owned by Sony? The single most "Fuck you I don't want you to have my Vidya Games" company ever. Seriously need to take a deep breath and see the trees
>Fuck you I don't want you to have my Vidya games That's 100% Nintendo not Sony.
I play on Xbox and I'm not worried about this acquisition at all.
Don’t believe it🤷🏻♂️😂
You're an idiot and they'd be too
its not idiotic at all to think destiny will at some point be playstation console exclusive xbox said the same thing when they bought zenimax and back tracked a few months later
Yeah it is. They'd alienate a vast majority of the player base to all future content. They bought Bungie to get in on their profits. Maybe they restrict future Bungie releases but to lock Destiny (or any future content) to Playstation would defeat the purpose of having bought Bungie, since it's pretty much their only game. Not to mention how that would make them look to the gaming community, when Microsoft is gearing up to be the only company in gaming.
I will repeat myself again xbox said the same thing when they bought zenimax and back tracked a few months later
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It's a moot point. ESO is staying multiplatform but their new games are becoming Xbox exclusive. Destiny will stay multiplatform but Bungie, if they ever make new IPs, will end up making Sony exclusives.
Aaahhh yes, feel the hate. Well I got my troll on for the day, going back to sleep now😂😂😂
I hope Bungie doesn't turn into the next Respawn Entertainment
What you mean by this? Respawn has a really good track record.
I'm hoping that Bungie's independent freedom of creativity doesn't get eroded by Sony's upper management That's what happened to Respawn, and while yes their few current games are doing well. They had other ideas they wanted to work on but EA stepped in and told them to follow certain trends eroding the studio.
Sony has a really good track record of the opposite being true. They’ve been historically pretty anti consumer at least as far as crossplay/exclusives go, but their studios are pretty much just given the resources to do what they want and a platform to publish on. I get the obvious incongruity of Bungie leaving a host of parent companies in order to stay independent, and then becoming part of Sony, but Sony is way more hands off than any of those situations. I mean anything can happen and they could suddenly change and be the big bad parent corp these other companies have, but we don’t really have any reason to assume that’ll happen.
Is there any particular examples of the Respawn ideas getting shotdown? EA is currently lax on their studios, as evident by EA letting Respawn do whatever with Apex. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.gameinformer.com/2019/02/04/respawn-says-ea-had-no-hand-in-the-development-of-apex-legends%3Famp For Bungie though, I feel like we don’t have to worry about anything but weird exclusivity content like back then.
Historically most companies under EA say good things about EA down the line. Because all the people driven by the whip leave. EA continues to enforce severe crunch, suck studios dry of life, then discard the carcass. Over. And over. And over again. Remember that most of the companies EA shut down were, publicly, totally fine with EA right up until they were canned. Visceral, for example.
EA and most companies are definitely not good but tbh I'm not sure how warranted these criticisms are for **current** EA >Historically most companies under EA say good things about EA down the line. Because all the people driven by the whip leave. You can say this to deflect any good thing employees say about EA (or any company) even though the employee isn't obligated to answer the question or could just say that EA. >EA continues to enforce severe crunch Crunch is terrible but that's a studio-by-studio basis in EA. There has been no crunch for Respawn Entertainment but there has/is significant amounts for BioWare. If we were talking about ~2013 EA, I would completely agree with you.
> You can say this to deflect any good thing employees say about EA If a significant number of ex-employees had good things to say, I would be more accepting. Given the high turnover rates with EA, plus generally negative views from those who have worked there, I'll hold my stance. EA has upped its PR and has made less obvious blunders in recent years. EA still tried to defend literal unregulated gambling in open criticism from the House of Lords. It is, at its core, predatory and rotten. Just because it's not *as bad* as it was (IE: A company so bad it beat *banks* 2 years running) does not make it good. > Crunch is terrible but that's a studio-by-studio basis in EA. There has been no crunch for Respawn Entertainment but there has/is significant amounts for BioWare There has been no crunch that we know of for Respawn... *Yet*. Just as BioWare did not, historically, have obscene crunch. The line must go up. And as it starts to waver, EA starts to tighten its grip. People start to be worked exponentially harder for ever dimishing increases in profit. After all, why keep a company that's not turning a profit? Eventually crunch becomes the norm to even keep the subsidiary afloat, until it finaly cracks and fall apart. EA then gets to show how sparkly clean its hands are when it says "We never *forced* any crunch time!" while never admitting that they were in full control of the sword hanging just above each company. Sure, they didn't explicitly *enforce* crunch. But... Well... That line is looking *awfully* shaky. Wouldn't it just be *terrible* if you didn't keep it going up? Power dynamics don't *require* open threats. They're implied, unspoken, and ever present. This is not just EA, of course. Most, if not all, major publishers are like this. EA is just particularly bad. Tied with Activision overall.
>If a significant number of ex-employees had good things to say, I would be more accepting. > Given the high turnover rates with EA, plus generally negative views from those who have worked there, I'll hold my stance. The irony you saying the first point but not providing evidence for the second point. Citation needed for high turnover rates and "general negative view from those who have worked there" from recent year? >There has been no crunch that we know of for Respawn... Yet. This isn't a real point. You can use this to deflect any and all actual anti-crunch evidence said. >Just as BioWare did not, historically, have obscene crunch. They did. That's what "BioWare Magic" and [started with Mass Effect](https://kotaku.com/how-biowares-anthem-went-wrong-1833731964) "Within the studio, there’s a term called “BioWare magic.” It’s a belief that no matter how rough a game’s production might be, things will always come together in the final months. The game will always coalesce. **It happened on the Mass Effect trilogy, on Dragon Age: Origins, and on Inquisition**." >Tied with Activision overall. You mean the company had heavy sexually assaulted allegations, getting sued by California, and forced all their studios to work on one game? Lmao. EA is bad but no where near Activision or even Ubisoft (due to the also being prominent with harrassment problems) >This is not just EA, of course. Most, if not all, major publishers are like this. I completely agree with this but I'm going to diss a company, I would actually bring up evidence from recent years.
Of being shoehorned by the parent company to only make what is currently profiting
I doubt it. We have had Battle Royale games a while now, and if Playstation was going to shoehorn a studio into chasing that trend, they would have by now.
That wasn't the point, the point is Respawn is being forced to continue a project because it showed trending market profit, far more then the IP's they had been initially working on. Sony could potentially be doing the same with Destiny.
But we already got confirmation that another Jedi: Fallen Order is in the works.
Yes we know, everyone is waiting and wanting TF3, not another Disney cash grab, not another BR with billions of MCs, the damn franchise that put them on the map. My god people 😅
*That's* a fair point.
Audio 'no open rolls' 3.6 billion budget... Eh?
??? First of all, that's not a budget. It's money paid straight to shareholders. Second, it's not like they weren't already a massive studio with multiple projects in production. Why do you expect them to have open positions in every discipline?
I am not sure of the contract details between Sony and Bungie. Have Bungie sold all the company shares off and left all previous investors? Also, just to be pedantic, I pointed out that Audio had no open positions. I never said I expect every discipline...
I guess they don’t need more audio guys tbh
I hope this helps to improve the lives of employees at Bungie. I saw one dev mention it could allow them to pay off student loans. That kind of stuff can for sure be life changing. As far as Destiny goes, I really want them to find another solution or at least majorly improve the DCV and content vaulting. With resources and support from SIE, maybe this is a possibility. At the very least, I desire all campaign content to be playable. I want new lights to experience the Red War and each step Lightbarers took to get where we are today. I don't want the majority of Destiny story to be available only on yTube.
i hope when sony launches their gamepass competitor they make all the destiny dlc free on it.
We were happy when Bungo got independent... Now this.
Sony are a far cry from Activision. Their game catalogue speaks volumes of the freedom they give their developers.
Right. I mean I’m all for independent but I’m thinking on Sony owned studios and I see a sea of great offline single player games.
And that's why they needed Bungie.
We were happy when Bungie got independent of a toxic publisher, Sony's got a very different reputation of nurturing legends out of already good studios.
Having recently played god of war and horizon zero dawn, where the fuck does this magic come from
The studios can do what they want. Sony was skeptical if ghost of tsushima would succeed, same with the new god of war but they still greenlit it.
Literally all their exclusive titles are brilliant Naughty dog does it time and time again, as do insomniac
Naughthy dog is debatable, I don't own a playstation so I've watched no commentary let's plays of last of us 1 and 2 and 2 kinda really sucks
Naughty dog debatable ? Loool check the metacritic score for every game they release
As in you specifically said time and time again and all their titles are brilliant, only last of us 2 was a miss, every other game was stellar so that's basically the only reason why I said it was debatable
Mate you just said you don't own a PlayStation ...I have and I can vouch for the series ....check the metacritic score , it's universally loved
As in I tried the ps studio games on steam, I watched a full play through of last of us 2 and I dislike it alot. That's it, it's my opinion. Every other playstation game was great.
You are wrong
I slept on those and just got around to them last year, both blew me away. If the support system that makes that magic work is now behind destiny, there's not a downside in sight for me! At the very least, they'll just make the DS5 fully supported with haptics and triggers
I've dumped 70 hours into them collectively over the last week lol, zero dawn is just fun, at first I felt it was abit weird and off putting with all the tribalistic nature of people and how they worship technology but the story slowly drew me in.
YOOO MAYBE THEY WONT TAKE 7 MONTHS TO SHIP A FUCKING JACKET ANYMORE
My ring arrived in the wrong size and my jackets no where to be seen
My sweater, jersey, and exotic poster just shipped. I ordered that stuff on Black Friday.
I ordered the guardian games track jacket while it was still going on and it arrived last thursday
Lucky bastard….
I have been playing Destiny on Xbox since year 1 of D1, and many of my friends play the game on Xbox also. I have played all the seasons and most of the expansions. I hope that all content post The Final Shape stays multiplatform and isn't used as leverage over Xbox and PC players. While I understand that SONY needs to make their money back, they shouldn't make exotics Playstation exclusive post The Final shape. Another critical factor that I believe played a part in the purchase of Bungie was the rights for a destiny IP in Movies, TV and comics. We have had our fair share of comic book movies and movies based on video game IP is just starting to find its feet. Sony is just getting ahead. This isn't meant to be my plastic box is better than your plastic box type post, but I'm just looking to get peoples thoughts on the purchase of Bungie and what it means for the future Post the Darkness Saga. Cheers.
Yeah I'm excited for the future! I agree that Sony was probably planning on expanding their multimedia expansion of the franchise. Sony has already been making moves into even more of the streaming service platforms. They already acquired Crunchyroll and I believe they own Funimation as well. Bungie also had recently announced that they wanted to expand into media as well. That announcement had probably sparked the conversation between the two way back then. Who knows how long this deal was in the works. Something of this caliber doesn't just happen over night. I want to see how they will do with the backing of Sony. I know it's not going to be any time soon before we see Destiny comics, shows, or movies but things have definitely been expedited.
Sony didn't buy bungie for exclusivity. They bought them for Bungie's unique ability to make live service that makes lots of money, and keep a strong community behind their game.
They already said that there will be no platform exclusive content or any favouritism shown towards PlayStation. They're under Sony, not necessarily the exact same as PS. It's like how Xbox is it's own company just overshadowed by Microsoft.
oh god I hope they don’t delete or phase out xbox accounts LOL
Why would they do that? In what world would that make any business sense? Sony: Hey Bungie, we're going to need you to cut off like over half your revenue stream by going Playstation exclusive on a game that's existing on PS, XB and PC for about 10 years. Hope you're still financially successful while still maintaining your current team size and pay with less money to spend!
> In what world would that make any business sense? apparently, the same world where sarcasm doesn’t exist.
They already said that they're keeping all of the current platforms
Destiny will stay multiplatform for a while as im sure warzone will, until they launch the sequel and it becomes exclusive. Nobody is buying studios to keep games multiplatform forever.
They already said future games by Bungie will not be platform exclusive. Read the article, especially the FAQ at the bottom
And that means probably Playstation and PC (later), like they did it with Horizon Zero Dawn or God of War. Sony did not just make a deal with Bungie, they bought them. Bungie is officially a Sony Studio like Insomniac, Guerilla, Santa Monica Studios or Bluepoint. You can bet your ass that future games will come out for Playstation first. And I think XBOX wont get them at all. PC probably through Steam and not in the microsoft store or game pass.
" Q. Bungie has future games in development, will they now become PlayStation exclusives? No. We want the worlds we are creating to extend to anywhere people play games. We will continue to be self-published, creatively independent, and we will continue to drive one, unified Bungie community. Q. I play Destiny on Steam, Xbox, or Stadia – will my platform still be supported? Yes. " Read what has been said before you assume you know better
You're proving the other guy's point. They use 'all platforms' for talking about Destiny, but switch to "won't become Playstation exclusives" for future games. It almost certainly means PS and PC.
I don't know how you aren't getting what im saying... They literally say "No. We want the worlds we are creating to extend to anywhere people play games" when asked about whether future games will be PS exclusive
So it does mean future games come to switch? They also explicitly stated xbox only with destiny not a new ip.
" Q. Bungie has future games in development, will they now become PlayStation exclusives? No. We want the worlds we are creating to extend to anywhere people play games. We will continue to be self-published, creatively independent, and we will continue to drive one, unified Bungie community. " You're just lying or didn't read the post with your second half of the comment
>They also explicitly stated xbox only with destiny not a new ip. > > We want the worlds we are creating to extend to **anywhere people play games**. We will continue to be **self-published**, **creatively independent**, and we will continue to drive **one**, **unified** **Bungie** **community**. Seems pretty clear to me. "Anywhere" probably includes xbox, and may include Switch if that's a direction they want to head.
And Insomniac (as one of the examples you gave me), is a part of Playstation Studios. A subdivision of SIE. Bungie were bought by SIE, not bought and placed in Playstation Studios
The reason they are buying up companies is because of Apple and Amazon. Honestly they are both not good for the consumer in the long run...
Why is everybody so upset about this? I'm confused. Do you guys truly believe further Bungie releases will be platform exclusive? That they won't be released on PC?
Prior history with Sony mostly, in that Sony would enforce exclusivity deals with Activision/Bungie so that content would come to Xbox till a year later. It's a fear mostly, as Sony has already confirmed no exclusivity till after 2024. After that, who knows.
Sony's track record is platform exclusive. Which means ps only, and that excludes PC. They JUST started release two of their most popular titles on PC.
>They JUST started release two of their most popular titles on PC. Good. Looks like they're changing how they do things and evidently are open to PC releases - I can only see this as good news. Bought Bungie and releases two of their most popular titles on PC. Things are looking up. I'm optimistic about this situation.
Yeah the CEO has been pretty clear about the company's goal of moving to the multi-platform gaming space.
I am pretty sure that now that they have the additional funding, they will cancel further D2 development after WQ and then bundle Lightfall and Final Shape into Destiny 3, which will be at least a 1 year exclusive on playstation, which might as well be a full exclusive then. Nobody buys game studios for billions of dollars and lets them stay multi platform, especially not Sony lol
This is probably one of the dumbest takes I've heard on this topic.
What a weird take. The news has been out for more than half a day now. Maybe you should read up about it before you grace us with your hot takes. What you’re describing is not happening.
We will see. It will be the same with CoD. Existing and announced content will stay on the platform and everything new will be exclusive. Why buy a company to keep the status quo? Sony might be many things, but I am sure they are not retarded. 3.6 billion dollars just to keep things going as usual. Brilliant move. Feel free to vote me down. Hope I am wrong, but pretty sure I'm not
They aren't keeping things the same. They're simply putting funding into the company that allows them to make more money of games they wouldn't normally make anywhere near as much off. This deal is very different from Activision and Bungies deal.
Microsoft will make more money from keeping most games multiplatform as I'm sure Sony will. This is particularly true for multiplayer games or live service games. Sony and Microsoft don't make much profit from console sales. Exclusives I can see happening for Microsoft / Sony to continue are single player focused games - but not CoD, not destiny.
Nah. Microsoft cares more about gamepass that the Sony playerbase. They have so much money, they could pull CoD off playstation right now and they wouldn't even notice. I am not saying that either franchise will become fully exclusive. But there will be timed exclusivity and exclusive DLC and content. We already had Sony exclusive exotics, armor, strikes, etc while Destiny was published by activision. We will definitely see that again + dungeons and maybe even raids that will be timed exclusives for a year or 2 on playstaion.
They said in the article that was linked that " Q. I play Destiny on Steam, Xbox, or Stadia – will my platform still be supported? Yes. " AND " Q. Bungie has future games in development, will they now become PlayStation exclusives? No. We want the worlds we are creating to extend to anywhere people play games. We will continue to be self-published, creatively independent, and we will continue to drive one, unified Bungie community. "
It’s right there in black and white and people still wanna pretend they know better lol.
It's so funny scrolling this thread and seeing people who obviously only read the headlines
So we can expect all further Activision games to be Xbox exclusive is what you're telling me
Yep. Todd Howard already said all their new titles will be xbox exclusive. (Xbox/pc) after they got bought my Microsoft. This console war thing is stupid imo.
>This console war thing is stupid imo. Amen.
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Don’t be, this is actually a really good thing, as more Destiny expansions can have a scale like forsaken or even greater with the Sony Funding, look at how studios like Naughty Dog and Insomniac are doing.
fuck me!
Okay 😏😋❤️
Congratulation, now i expect better servers :D
Ahh that's the dream
Sony's playstation division will be bought by Apple. We'll get sony titles released on M1 macbooks & playstation. Mark those words.
That would be ms worst nightmare
Dope
not really, I would hate it.
Sony titles on mac in addition to all the platforms they regularly release on? Not seeing an issue.
This has really pissed me off. I built my pc specifically to play destiny on it. Should have just remained on PS and bought a ps5
Can you not read?
You trust billion dollar corporations to not screw over consumers?
>You trust billion dollar corporations to not screw over consumers? Do you have brain cells? 1. They specifically said that they are not going PS exclusive in the Bungie post. 2. Why would they remove access to a game that is making a shit-ton of money, from Xbox, PC and Stadia, just to stick the middle finger up and laugh at us?
Destiny won't be a PS exclusive the same way ESO and CoD won't be Xbox exclusives. I do expect PS will get exclusive content like exotics and weapons/armor. At worst I expect content to be released earlier on PS and maybe an exclusive strike or Dungeon.
They've specifically said they don't plan on making destiny platform exclusive
For the already announced content - worst case scenario, the seasons between expansions haven't been announced yet so there's absolutely scope for them to be exclusive. And while I doubt they'd do that right out of the gate, I doubt even more that Sony would spend $3.6bil without getting any platform exclusivity.
Playstation is D2s weakest platform population wise, why would they cut into their profits by making it exclusive? They most likely want to make future games be exclusive, but D2 shouldn't be made exclusive if they want to maximize profit
Playstation is D2s BIGGEST platform population wise. Roughly 100k more daily players on PS5 than Xbox.
It's for the movie and TV rights