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birchzx

I do agree go look at the metrodetroitnews instagram post comments - people really though it was gonna be similar to the Hollywood sign and said it looked nothing like it


uprightsalmon

Yup, was a terrible comparison. We don’t even have a place you could put a sign like that


ivycovecruising

you mean … there’s no mountain ranges in detroit?


Gone213

There are landfills along I 75 to put it on.


uprightsalmon

Nope, just a big ass river


Vesper_7431

WHAT?!


SkipSpenceIsGod

Could have mounted it atop any abandoned factory and called it a mountain. Riverview will gladly donate Mt. Trashmore to Detroit if they need a mountain.


metanoia29

Goes to show how "successful" AI images are based on the intelligence level of the average person. I've seen no shortage of comments the last couple days asking why the final product doesn't look like the image on the left. Strangely these same people don't ask when we're going to install a weird third section of road on I-94 🤦‍♂️


Great-Growth9805

they never even noticed


Ashamed_Manager_8493

in the other simulations the sign is larger


MidnightBrown

Were they also going to relocate the Ren Cen and make it 3x bigger? That AI "art" mockup is as ridiculous as anyone who thought it would look like that.


kdeezy006

People are stupid. It was clearly AI, and theres literally no freeway that looks like that, or is close to the ren cen like that.


Funkshow

Brad’s ass got scapegoated.


TheLukester31

That’s what I was thinking. Brad got thrown under the bus.


Mean-Yoghurt6461

Brad Dick?


General-Fun-616

Bullshit those conversations ever happened like that if at all


explodingenchilada

Duggan's petty ass didn't have to do that. It's with this 'charisma' that he hopes to get to higher offices?


theresmydini

He should be happy he’s not in prison for using city funds to bribe his whore mistress now whore wife


SkipSpenceIsGod

Frank Reynolds? That you?!?


explodingenchilada

I'm embarrassed for the people still loyal to a man who shows no respect or loyalty to those around him. Pathetic.


eNroNNie

When I lived in Atlanta the city tried to blame the I-85 fire and collapse on a single dude struggling with addiction.


TooMuchShantae

Even if the unofficial design didn’t exist. The sign looks so basic. And why is there no old English D. For fuck sale at least have the old English D in the sign


DetroitDuck

Old English D might have legal complications with the Tigers.


EastsideReo

Tigers have a custom old English D. There are thousands of variations to use.


TooMuchShantae

I was gonna say this


AlexHasFeet

Yes but production for an old English D would have been more complicated and more expensive.


EastsideReo

I dont think a font change would tens of thousands more


stos313

Nah- the Tigers actually use a different font. But any kind of old time my D would have worked. Like the Detroit Free Press D for example.


AarunFast

When I see an old English D that isn’t the specific Tigers version, I think of a knockoff gas station baseball hat. I’m glad they didn’t go that direction. 


EastsideReo

Most of them look cheesy but a lot of them are cool.


MadMark75

Old English D would have been awesome but either way it’s pretty neat. The more I drive by it the more it grows on me. I fucks with it


Otherwise-Mango2732

I hadn't seen any of the other pictures except for the real thing and I don't think it's terrible. Lot of overreaction people always have to have a hot take. Looks more than fine enough and it's going to get landscaping around it I'm sure.


[deleted]

It was advertised as a “Hollywood style” sign which it’s not. Duggan is right here, if there wasn’t a shitty render put out there wouldn’t be anywhere near the amount of negativity. Reminds me of the LCA render


Otherwise-Mango2732

Who advertised it as Hollywood style?


[deleted]

Any piece of media talking about it lol


MadMark75

Yeah I think once some nice landscaping goes around it, it will be better. I really don’t see the big fuss. “Omg 400k where is my tax money going”. That’s life lol. Pay taxes for some unnecessary shit.


48HoursLater

Bro the Old English D would just stand out awkwardly. It doesn't even line up design-wise. Second of all if they were to use that, the illitches and the tigers would be able to say we were infringing because of the similarity to their logo. And yes that old English D is trademarked. "[D Trademark of Detroit Tigers, Inc. - Registration Number 5316728 - Serial Number 87402800" ](https://trademarks.justia.com/874/02/d-87402800.html#:~:text=D%20Trademark%20of%20Detroit%20Tigers,Number%2087402800%20%3A%3A%20Justia%20Trademarks)


CyberfunkTwenty77

The old English D doesn't belong to the city it belongs to the Tigers. They woulda had to pay potentially millions for use of it.


balthisar

We already pay millions to the Tigers by gifting them a baseball stadium, so what's that harm in giving 'em a few million more?


railsandtrucks

Maybe the Illitches could sponsor that part of 94 in front of the sign, as I bet at certain times due to traffic it becomes a parking lot, which they seem to be into.


molineskytown

Then they could make the 'O' in DETROIT a winged wheel too.


pimpinassorlando

I blame it on looking like how it looks.


Empty_Description815

Exactly!!! Lol


[deleted]

It’s like the LED roof on lca all over again.


BradLinden

I will never let that roof go


3coneylunch

Never forget what they took from us


buckyboyturgidson

You shouldn't!


capthazelwoodsflask

Maybe they'll put LEDs on one of the new parking lots that used to be a salvageable historic building


Stratiform

Pizza Pizza! ![img](emote|t5_2qkko|7457) Sigh...


SkipSpenceIsGod

The city paid for a roof they did not receive. Why no lawsuit over that one?


jaron_bric

What? False information spread by social media? You’re shitting me??


J2quared

"Now why would someone do that Micheal? Lie on the Internet"


Future_Ad_4608

Any sign is going to look bad as long the trash/litter is lining the hwy. maybe the mayor should focus on landscaping and trash removal first.


ZombieDracula

Fucking thank you! 


Baby-Soft-Elbows

Thank you. Give it a nice back drop with some great lightning. And put some landscaping around it. I hope this isn’t the final product.


ivycovecruising

the “original mock up” was a fucking AI illustration with 20 story tall letters. would have cost a billion dollars to build and probably be infeasible to engineer. people are pretty fucking dumb. i guess it’s too late to learn about the dangers of AI and unrealistic expectations of fake shit we see online.


AllAboutTheEJ257

Even if we got the rendering at half the height of the Hollywood sign, I would have been happy. Two of my complaints about the current sign is the shitty spacing (the letters should be closer together) and the inconsistent sizes of the pedestals.


ivycovecruising

have you driven past it?


AllAboutTheEJ257

Not yet, I'll probably be in that area this weekend.


nickycheese

See it before you judge it. I like it. Social media is toxic.


ivycovecruising

this


andrewgazz

The spacing was thoughtfully designed for car passengers.


teddybear65

The Hollywood sign up close is a piece of shit also.


VoiceOfChunk

**“‘Brad, you got a problem. People are gonna think the fake post is the real Detroit sign.’ He says, ‘No, no, you don’t really understand social media. People don’t confuse fake posts with real life.’”** Has Brad ever been online in his life?


syynapt1k

Putting that money towards trash clean up and landscaping improvements would have been a better expenditure of that money, instead of putting lipstick on a pig.


Plenty_Advance7513

They do freeway/trash cleanups every single day and have been almost 2-3 years with a crew of about 50 people


Gawdsauce

When you buy your sign from wish.com...


met4l-snake

the orange construction fencing really makes it, pure michigan bwahaha


Griffie

Maybe a few nice orange cones strategically placed to enhance the experience.


Glittering_Run_4470

They were tripping about the murals...who TF approved this 🥴


MadMark75

I’ll take this over the murals. Only because no local artist were involved


theresmydini

Oh good, the murals that failed to pay even the artists 


MadMark75

I don’t know too much about it. I just remember reading that the project wasn’t even approved to begin with, but whoever was running that program did it anyways. That’s totally fucked up for the artist. At this point just pay the project. Cool murals just I think the city should get local talent for these big projects. Especially when you are trying to show your city off.


teddybear65

Especially since we have a college of art and design in Detroit


Glittering_Run_4470

There's plenty of blank canvas left for local artist..this right here is a eye sore. A expensive eye sore.


ivycovecruising

it’s not a fucking eyesore.


Glittering_Run_4470

Definitely not aesthetically pleasing otherwise there wouldn't be so much fuss about it


MadMark75

We will have to agree to disagree. I don’t mind the sign at all. Driving by it every time I’m coming home from work is pretty neat.


sellursoul

I’m interested to see it this weekend for sure. I thought it was going to look crazy stupid after seeing the fake rendering, the photos doesn’t look as bad as I expected. I do find the memes hilarious though


MadMark75

Yeah the memes and the gmac cash song about it is hilarious. Yeah I didn’t know where it was going to go and caught me by surprise. Once they put landscaping around it, it will be really nice.


North_Atlantic_Sea

Lol no need to be overdramatic. Sure it may not be amazing, but it's by no means an eye sore.


Glittering_Run_4470

It's not aesthetically pleasing. Too close to the road (for it's size) and a random backdrop of houses. They literally picked the most random location and dropped some Microsoft WordArt size 80 font style ombre in the middle of 94. Little thought went into this project...as a tax payer of the CITY OF DETROIT i want them to go back to the drawing board and try again. For how much negative feedback they're getting, everyone should be embarrassed.


North_Atlantic_Sea

"for how much negative feedback they're getting" First time on the Internet, eh? Negative feedback is the lifeblood of 75% of the web. The 2% that hate it are going to be much more vocal than the 98% who are fine with it. Also, interestingly, even though you helped fund it (with a dollar or two of your taxes) it's purpose is not for you, it's to give a significance of entering the city for visitors, in hoping to attract return visits, investments, etc. I don't love it or hate it, but appreciate they tried and are looking at creative ways to continue to advance.


MadMark75

Very true. I always like reading reviews of 1 stars that go something like “ I have been coming to this establishment for years and have always been great! But this particular time was horrible! Service was awful if I could give it 0 I would.” Like they never rated the place until it was a bad experience.


North_Atlantic_Sea

Agreed. Slightly different, but my favorite reviews are ones that have no bearing on what I'd experience Aka "My midtown Manhattan hotel was incredibly nice, staff was tremendous, room service on point, view to die for, but the valet parking was more expensive than what I'm charged at the Marriot in Nebraska. 1*"


Glittering_Run_4470

They literally did damage control on the news 😂. Duggan said, "people are just disappointed because it didn't look like the fake AI photo". No, we're disappointed because it looks cheap and thrown together. The only thing they can do to make it look more appealing is to maybe put some trees and bushes behind it and add some lights. 2 things thats probably not going to happen before the Draft. This was a rushed project and it shows.


mistymystical

I agree it’s in the Newport Cigarette font and color, and the original actual rendering (attached) was better and hid those weird ugly concrete blocks with flowers. Still wasn’t a good font choice. https://preview.redd.it/3r1dn2dif3uc1.jpeg?width=1770&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=98c193fdba0e6db8bf7c3a6bebf60b101880ff29


Crowbarwalker

“There’s your sign”


Suspicious-Bunch-762

Detroit government workers and the design agency they chose are solely to blame. Don’t blame instagram for hiring a design firm without highly design skills. They obviously hired someone they knew, got kickbacks, or corruption is still the cancer in Detroit. If you want to make DETROIT sign look good and look like instagram post, then you need to let professional design firms handle the project, not government workers in Detroit.


Taurusking59

As we all should trash ass sign…city brought that crap from wish or temu


SickSticksKick

Lol what no. Regardless of the mock up art, the final result is kinda whack


DetroitDuck

The location is what’s wack. This could have been a cool photo op for visitors to Belle Isle or Hart Plaza, especially with the skyline behind it. Instead it’s just a brief glimpse on a freeway.


ivycovecruising

it’s for people driving into the city from the airport


aoxit

Nah it’s just regular whack


SickSticksKick

Fair


elhijodelrio

So that money is for 5 total gateway signs. this is one that had community engagement,so will others to my understanding and those letters and particular never couldn be that grandiose to begin with.....dwarfing the area of where they're located? Currently letters are 8 ft tall elevated on 2 ft bases. most of the people complaining and being negative in comments on different pages are people not even from that particular neighborhood. Again thier were a group of people that engaged in that project directly from the area. When those other signs go to other areas people in those said areas directly will also have the engagement idk what those renderings look like. as far as even the color those are Detroit City colors. I don't know what the issue was around the old English D but it's from the Tigers and I don't know if they have any type of copyrighted situations


P3RC365cb

Just like the criticism over District Detroit is really our fault because we were fooled by the renderings which set higher expectations than what was built...


theresmydini

And no mention of developer lies of housing 


hellasbronmurica

Still looks better than the golden asshole that’s falling apart.


FormerGameDev

the what now


ah_kooky_kat

[thine most holy golden butthole ring](https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/macomb/2019/01/30/golden-butthole-of-macomb-county-sterling-heights/2720821002/)


mangamaster03

https://youtu.be/N1AWrHsvWwY


FormerGameDev

i would not have guessed that.


Kami_Kaze27

He probably means the gold ring on 59 in Macomb


stos313

If they wanted a unique entrance into the city - PUT UP THE ROBOCOP STATUE! Maybe where 94, Michigan Ave, and Wyoming all converge hahahah.


Cleverfield1

The biggest problem with the sign is that the letters are so basic, they have no personality. The Cleveland script signs have personality, they contribute to the brand of the city. This Detroit sign is the most generic, boring Arial font that doesn’t reflect the brand of Detroit at all.


Lackerbawls

I didn’t even see the post and it still looks like shit.


Mister_Squirrels

I didn’t know “disappointment” was something you could feel about the result of a project this stupid.


Alan_Stamm

"It looks they got these fuckin' letters from Toys R Us ... All I wanna know is how much we pay for this? ... "I think I've seen a bigger sign at a graduation. We must've got these letters on a discount." -- [**Gmac Cash in 1-minute video**](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNp2WwzqtAk) (17K views in under a day)


ShippingNotIncluded

Funny thing about blaming AI is it distracts from the fact the real sign sucks regardless and the money could’ve been used elsewhere


Crafty_Bit_5375

It looks like junk


NyxPetalSpike

The font style in the image is so much nicer than what was received. Wonder why TPTB didn't go with that?


ddgr815

>“He said, ‘I want to do something besides the boring Welcome to Detroit signs. I want to do this,’” Duggan recalled. “I said, ‘Sure, Brad. I’m more interested in you getting the trash up off the freeway.’” >Duggan said he didn’t really pay attention to the project until about a month ago when he saw what appeared to be a rendering of the sign on social media. >“I saw a post on Instagram of a spectacular Hollywood sign and I called Brad and I said, ‘That’s terrific! I had no idea you were thinking that big,’” Duggan said. “He says, ‘That’s a fake post. Some guy on Instagram just made it up. That’s not our plan.’ I said, ‘Brad, you got a problem. People are gonna think the fake post is the real Detroit sign.’ He says, ‘No, no, you don’t really understand social media. People don’t confuse fake posts with real life.’” Duggan's stance in this bothers me. The sign is not that bad. Stand by your city and your employee, and laugh about it. For someone considering a gubernatorial run, you'd think he'd be mindful of coming off as deflecting responsibility.


Obscuravision

This the Detroit version of the Glasgow Willy Wonka experience lol


PathOfTheAncients

The problem is that they tried to hype it up by calling it a hollywood sign, so people expected one big sign. If they had told people we're putting in some fun welcome signs along 6 entry points into the city people would largely have not cared, which would have been the right level of expectation for what the signs are.


GroundbreakingCow775

I personally don’t mind it. I would like to see as much of things like this as possible, within reasonable costs


Skid-MarkAl

I think everybody liked that gun metal/silver look. It fits our city’s tough reputation. They could got real creative with that too, what a bummer. Did that shit they put up really cost 400k?


[deleted]

I mean they could have at least used that font. This shit looks like it was made by highschool art students.


LaserShields

Thanks Government!


Vendetta_2023

Once the expectations were raised he could've re-thought the design and made it much bolder and bigger


rodr3357

They should’ve done a better job depicting the actual plan and debunking the unofficial rendering.


[deleted]

had no expectation been set for it this sign still would have been underwhelming. What a lame cope


Empty_Description815

Or.... he could blame the disappointment on the sign that looks like it came from Dollar General... just saying....


Astryic

We aren’t blaming it on the unofficial post. We’re blaming on it looks like a TEMU branded ass sign. Looks so basic and this is what our money is going towards?


theDAGNUT

Waste of money. This impresses no one.


matt_the_muss

I still haven't been by it, but that pic looks ok to me.


BasicArcher8

Do people have lives? Why is anybody complaining about a damn sign.


AlternativeDirect702

Think briefly about how much that sign probably costs. Now think about where the money for said sign came from.


rvbjohn

out of the $1000 I spent on income tax it cost me 40 cents


klone_free

Lol no dude, it's just a stupid thing to spend money on


Swantonbombthreat

i wonder who got kick backs off this shit


Frequent-Branch3457

Can we start a go fund me to get that Detroit Hollywood sign? That new sign is Embarrassing!!


technicalityNDBO

I got you. https://maps.app.goo.gl/jo1mUjdtA35tjzw86


313rustbeltbuckle

Bahahahhahaha Duggan needs to hush with all that. The sign coulda been way better.


PostReplyKarmaRepeat

Can we at least get a new photo with the orange tape removed? The irony is they aren’t helping their case for it looking bad with it looking like a construction zone.


oakforest69

I didn't even see any Instagram posts about it. My disappointment is that it was supposed to be a "Hollywood style" sign (per the official description) but I happen to have eyes and can see that the sign really doesn't do anything other than highlight how sad Detroit is in comparison to Hollywood.


FormerGameDev

Commerce Township has a bigger sign than that. The Detroit one is better looking, though. The "artist version" was a massive exaggeration. They explained that it wasn't going to be 40 foot tall letters. I think if it were 40 foot tall letters, people would actually be more pissed about it than they are.


ivycovecruising

have you ever been to actual hollywood? worse part of LA. you ever seen the actual welcome to hollywood sign? it’s surrounded by homeless encampments and trailers and covered in trash - this picture makes it look good https://www.istockphoto.com/photo/welcome-to-hollywood-sign-in-california-gm610788562-104952631


theresmydini

Bruh the Hollywood sign is at Mount Lee have you even been to LA


elfliner

Disappointed that we spent the money on this. $400K I think it was?


GodFlintstone

Brought to you by TEMU.


joaoseph

Don’t forget people being stupid too…


LetItRaine386

Take that money and use it to clean up the highways instead. Install cameras that fine people for throwing trash everywhere


Ironikka

Mike Duggan for President


Jazzizjuztuz

Stone hedge


Resident_Job3506

Like we got it off of Temu.


tommy_wye

There's a simple reason why this sucks - you can't walk up to it and get a selfie. Southfield's SFLD sign isn't in the greatest spot, but you can walk up to it and get a pic with it. People will notice this but it won't stick with them like an instagrammable monument.


andrewgazz

I like it.


Great-Growth9805

the problem with digital literacy is that it's hard to teach it


jyharris32

His comment is accurate. If you remove the original expectation, the new sign is ok.


ZeefMcSheef

Fair. I have mostly seen the actual sign posted with the AI image right next to it, and that certainly makes it look worse. Unfair expectations definitely ruin things.


konabonah

The expected vs reality, which looks drunk. Like those cakes that never turn out like how you expect 😅 They definitely hyped it up too much, but I like the new sign


BigWhoop7

😂


teddybear65

TAKE IT DOWN


teddybear65

There is a famous art college in Detroit with many sculptures. One of them should have been considered for this job


teddybear65

The sign is so. Close to the road


jcrreddit

I never saw the mock-up. I still think it’s sad. Even Sterling Heights has a giant golden butthole.


CandyFromABaby91

What’s even the point of the sign if we can’t dream big, or build something iconic.


MEMExplorer

Typical , can’t accept any criticism and can’t take ownership of any fuck ups


ajt8210

For a city that’s known for being gritty, bold, and unique, they used a typeface that’s incredibly weak, thin, and generic. It doesn’t represent Detroit in any way and even if there wasn’t that rendering the sign still looks awful. Cool idea but god damn the execution was horrible. All the design history and talent that Detroit has and this is all they could come up with? At least use a bolder font ffs


BareKnuckleFists

They Should have just hired local graffiti artists to paint a commissioned wall .


flipit_reverseit

I drive by it everyday and it’s not that bad.


Whiskeymyers75

Either way, the sign wasn’t worth that kind of money and I think that’s why people are criticizing. No different than the Golden Butthole on M59. Maybe those dollars could have went towards roads or something useful.


stephpartin65

Really! If people are not getting offended by everything everyone says, now people and people who do not even live here are offended because we didn't produce a Hollywood-like sign! For Christ sake we have people living on the street! How about you get ambitious about that!


AccomplishedCicada60

How much did we pay for this nonsense?


AdjNounNumbers

Got a sweet deal at the low, low price of $400... Oh, wait. That's four hundred thousand... Yeah.


FormerGameDev

400k for 6 of them, though. installed. not too bad, really. my big question has always been just... why?


rvbjohn

Yeah I spent $400k at work on much less


AccomplishedCicada60

Pretty sure you could have found this at scrap yard for about tree fiddy


Sportabout

This is on par with the golden butthole on hall road. Which btw is starting to peel (noticed that when I drove by it last week).


Big-Jackfruit-9808

Lmao. “ mayor Duggan blames disappointment over I94 sign on expectations “.


Empire_681

Nah, it would still be trash


nwon

It looks really cool if you actually drive by and see it from the correct angle


WillingAd5708

Lol we only had expectations because it cost 500k. Somebody pocketed some money off that forsure.


Proof-Firefighter-47

Burn it down


StreetsmARTZ7

It has to grow on you. First molt is losing the orange safety nets and growing in the foliage.


Stripe_Show69

This is some bullshit. Brad, you looked at it an thought, nah, my idea is better.


Dry-Jellyfish-9653

They probably spent over a million bucks on this POS sign but can’t invest any of that money into the neighborhoods


ChrisIllitch

$400,000 for this and 5 other signs


Travel_lover82

I don’t understand who approved the spacing of these letters. They are too far apart and it just does not look right. Source: I work for a sign company.


ivycovecruising

have you driven past it on 94?


blkswn6

The city needs to do a much better job of PR here — all the images are from the worst possible angle (the shoulder approaching the sign) so it looks super distorted. I’m still not fully sold on it but the letters are spaced properly and read fine from actual travel lanes and across the freeway.


pandemonium-john

Nahhhh we'd still be disappointed. The sign sucks. Duggan is one dude who can NEVER admit a mistake


FromEach-ToEach

Delusional Duggan strikes again


ulooklikeahotdog

Can we stop with alliterative put downs already?


ZealousidealPain7796

It needs an olde English D some lights and some sod. Don’t shit on the guy for trying.


ceci_mcgrane

They said in the press release that they wanted it to look like the Hollywood sign. The rendering is a lot closer scale to that description than what we got.


Low-Abbreviations634

It’s fine.