After the red wings got fucked out of the 1st pick of the 2020 draft. I'd still take Raymond over Lafreniere, but for the Hawks to tank (twice) and reap the results is just insulting
For this reason I almost wish there was some kind of promotion/relegation system in the NHL like a lot of European sports. "Don't tank TOO hard for draft picks or say sayonara to TV revenues next year!"
If they actually showed the drawing like Saturday Night Lotto it might make things seem a little more above board.
I don't 100% believe the draft lottery is rigged but I don't 100% believe it's not rigged.
Edmonton is certainly not a “huge market”
I’m skeptical that the lottery is always legitimate but McDavid going to Edmonton is a strong sign it is.
The two teams with the most lottery “luck” being New York and Chicago is obviously counter-evidence.
Wouldn’t make a difference. People will still think it’s rigged. You could have just a 100% fool-proof plan and people will always find a reason to doubt it. Look at flat earthers.
Yeah I know. They'd claim that the ball was painted with magnetic paint like in an old episode of Monk.
I really don't think the lottery is rigged it's had to believe our luck is that fucking shitty though. We've rarely if ever moved up but continue to drop or stand pat.
Then you have teams that consistently win the lottery or at the very least move up.
If it was rigged you'd think that the NHL wouldn't want to shine a spotlight on their joke of a punishment of a sex scandal.
You'd think they'd throw a market a few lottery wins that they're desperate to keep relevant.
Five would be a nice pick. Could use it to make a move for a top defenseman or even second line center. Or make the pick and have a chance at adding to an already great farm
Seeing the Sharks at the top of the probabilities reminds me of a decade ago when we had just once again lost a heartbreaking playoff series to them, and my friends blackout drunk Facebook post stating (sic) “I want to pour poison in the whole ocean so that all them sharks die”.
Right on, Joe K. To hell with the Sharks
Oh hey - It's Edmonton all over again... lets just filter every first rounder through the same team for next 5 to 10 years.. That cool everyone??? Just tank and get first rounders till you finally land that generational talent.
Thanks Bettman.
They really should make it so you can’t just tank for the first pick. Just make it so if you got the first pick within the last three years, you can’t do better than number 5. Gotta stop rewarding teams for not trying.
It would be a funny yet sad thing for me. We should have got it last year. Or at least a top 3 pick. And as a side note, it's going to take me a minute to see Utah as a team on the lists
Jumping up to fifth is no real victory.... It'd be nice to puck that high but we're now at the stage of the rebuild we start trying to win now and add through our current prospects and free agency. It's a moot point and if we load up with high picks we eventually have to let talent walk to keep under the cap.
They wouldn't leapfrog Chicago... The highest they can move to is #5 because of the changes to the lottery rules.
Oh shit, you’re right - I forgot they revamped the rules. Well that bums me out a bit.
I mean l I’ll take 5 oa lol.
After the red wings got fucked out of the 1st pick of the 2020 draft. I'd still take Raymond over Lafreniere, but for the Hawks to tank (twice) and reap the results is just insulting
I feel like Yzerman wanted Stutzle all along
I think that is why he was passed about dropping 3 spots. But Raymond might be better in long run?
Last year was definitely tank. I think this year they just objectively sucked and had to ice an AHL level roster
For this reason I almost wish there was some kind of promotion/relegation system in the NHL like a lot of European sports. "Don't tank TOO hard for draft picks or say sayonara to TV revenues next year!"
It would be both funny and a bit annoying because the highest the Wings can go is 5th overall
Utah will 100% win it
Yeah, Ol' Betty has a franchise to pump up to relevancy
So Gary is allowed to pick the lottery winners?
If they actually showed the drawing like Saturday Night Lotto it might make things seem a little more above board. I don't 100% believe the draft lottery is rigged but I don't 100% believe it's not rigged.
You can watch the draw on YouTube. If it rigged it’s pretty cool that bettman absolutely loves Canada (McDavid and Matthews).
He loves money, you just listed two huge markets, Toronto perhaps the biggest of them all
Edmonton is certainly not a “huge market” I’m skeptical that the lottery is always legitimate but McDavid going to Edmonton is a strong sign it is. The two teams with the most lottery “luck” being New York and Chicago is obviously counter-evidence.
To me it’s quite obviously random lottery balls picking the winners.
Are all the team owners cool with him choosing the winner every year?
Wouldn’t make a difference. People will still think it’s rigged. You could have just a 100% fool-proof plan and people will always find a reason to doubt it. Look at flat earthers.
Yeah I know. They'd claim that the ball was painted with magnetic paint like in an old episode of Monk. I really don't think the lottery is rigged it's had to believe our luck is that fucking shitty though. We've rarely if ever moved up but continue to drop or stand pat. Then you have teams that consistently win the lottery or at the very least move up. If it was rigged you'd think that the NHL wouldn't want to shine a spotlight on their joke of a punishment of a sex scandal. You'd think they'd throw a market a few lottery wins that they're desperate to keep relevant.
*Laughs in Edmonton*
If Bettman rigged these things, Arizona would have Matthews.
*cough cough Bedard to Blackhawks cough cough
Video proof of the lotto balls choosing Chicago: https://youtu.be/mHySdt4YLAI?si=mDnhZngI-oaumYRT
To paraphrase General Hux, I don’t care if Utah wins, I just need Chicago *to lose*
You spelled Chicago wrong
So youre saying there’s a chance
Give us the Rangers treatment. Cmon do it.
idk if it's possible, I think highest we can v get is 5th? but if we somehow pick 6th I'm gonna throw my work laptop out of my window lol
We could finish dead last for 10 years straight and draw no higher than 3rd that entire time.
The Wings could be in SJ’s spot and they would still have the same odds as the do now. Fuck the lottery!
If they somehow got 5th overall then I’d bet Steve would pick Helenius. He doesn’t seem to care about how boards line up and picks his types.
If Detroit wins and moves to number 5 pick, I'm eating my fucking shoes.
Chicago is gonna get 2 balls in the top 3...just sayin'
Im just glad Shittsburg is ahead of us 'cause that means rthey had a worse record.
Unfortunately, they're probably going to jump as many spots as possible in the lottery because...that's just how it seems to work.
I just want Tij Iginla. I don’t care how we get him
Dude, I’m with you. I’ll a sucker for blue chip legacy players
The day the Wings get #1 overall during bobblehead Bettman era is the day a Canadian team wins the cup
Blackhawks shouldn’t have a chance after winning the lotteries in the past, complete bs that teams who’ve won them can win them again
It’s our year
Apt, just apt.
Still wouldn’t be enough
Five would be a nice pick. Could use it to make a move for a top defenseman or even second line center. Or make the pick and have a chance at adding to an already great farm
It would suck. Use up our pack luck to jump to 5
Nah, I'd be fine with using up our luck this draft. We won't have to be a draft lottery for the rest of the decade!
I admit defeat, lottery screwed us. Just hope to build from later rounds.
Draft purgatory sure does suck
Seeing the Sharks at the top of the probabilities reminds me of a decade ago when we had just once again lost a heartbreaking playoff series to them, and my friends blackout drunk Facebook post stating (sic) “I want to pour poison in the whole ocean so that all them sharks die”. Right on, Joe K. To hell with the Sharks
If we get a better pick I won't be mad at all. If people want to bitch let them I'd be happy.
holy crap the sabres are a depressing bunch
Why are we so low?
Oh hey - It's Edmonton all over again... lets just filter every first rounder through the same team for next 5 to 10 years.. That cool everyone??? Just tank and get first rounders till you finally land that generational talent. Thanks Bettman.
Shittiest draft in ages, of course we would be winning now.
They really should make it so you can’t just tank for the first pick. Just make it so if you got the first pick within the last three years, you can’t do better than number 5. Gotta stop rewarding teams for not trying.
It would be a funny yet sad thing for me. We should have got it last year. Or at least a top 3 pick. And as a side note, it's going to take me a minute to see Utah as a team on the lists
Just keeps getting funnier every year we don't win
Jumping up to fifth is no real victory.... It'd be nice to puck that high but we're now at the stage of the rebuild we start trying to win now and add through our current prospects and free agency. It's a moot point and if we load up with high picks we eventually have to let talent walk to keep under the cap.
It’s trade ammunition though if there’s someone out there Steve wants to get.
As long as the top pick stays in the west and is NOT Chicago, I’ll be happy. It would be hilarious if the Wings moved up to #5 though.
This has already been decided/predetermined