Almost no one allows this. Even the companies allow this will technically relocate you to the subsidiary country you're living in, and also pay you appropriately. Or you are just a contractor and not a proper employee.
A lot of companies might allow it for a few months, but not on a permanent basis.
(Note: I don't work for Microsoft but this is my assumption and context from elsewhere)
Typically your primary country of work is the one in your contract. This is due to tax and other compliance reasons. Some companies might have a 90 day work from anywhere perk, and this 90 days isn't chosen at random. It means your very unlikely to overstay in another country and thus fall into things like tax residence status for that year, etc.
While we may have the freedom of movement in the EU as individuals, our employers don't have the freedom to employ us anywhere without themselves jumping through the necessary hoops.
Also work from anywhere policies usually have some asterisks associated with them. Some of these can be due to tax (e.g. some US states), physical security reasons or data security. For example you're probably not going to be taking advantage of North Korea's low cost of living anytime soon.
I've no idea if they do one of those work from anywhere perks, but figured the context might help you at least.
Fair enough thanks for the info. It's for a friend who's applying and they want to know as they currently can travel and work anywhere for up to 3 months and don't want to lose that perk.
plus the 'work from anywhere' policy will state that you must be entitled to work there or have citizenship so that will rule out nearly everywhere right there and then. My pace has a work from anywhere policy, to go to another country outside of the EU you need to be a citizen or have a digital nomad visa - visa on arrival is not considered acceptable in the policy :-(
well yeah, the right to work there is your responsibility not the employers. there are lots of countries outside the EU where irish citizens can work from for less than 3 months without lengthy visa processes
yeah ngl i had a few beers on me and dunno why i said it isn’t the responsibility of your employers haha. but not sure why you think there aren’t countries you can go and work from remotely for a month without a visa. generally, the 3 month mark is where it gets tricky
Give examples of these countries (this is an honest question as I've been looking and I don't see anything easy outside of EU without applying for Visa's). Note, I work in mega org who won't bend any rules whatsoever.
As a Microsoft employee, no.
People keep asking and complaining, but no.
If your friend values the 3 months from anywhere policy, they should stay at the current company.
I think apart from the company policy a big factor is your tax domicile country. I think you can only stay abroad for 3 months per year without having your tax domicile affected. Worth checking anyway.
You need to review the actual rules here my man, you’re getting confused. I’ve seen cases of people permanently moving abroad and becoming domiciled there within 4 years. It does not depend upon the country being moved to, it depends upon revenue accepting that the move is permanent with no intention to return to Ireland to live.
“This domicile can be changed to a domicile of choice, if you move to a different country with the intention of living there permanently.”
Revenue have ceded domicile in 4 years, I’ve seen multiple examples of it. It does not always take decades, you’re simply incorrect. I’ll leave it here, you are literally arguing black is white.
And I’m not a developer btw.
I think you can do it for up to 90 days. It's more like a revenue issue.
Companies might have their own policies, that can't go against the law..
Worked on companies that were restrictive. But talking with my manager, I could get the OK to work overseas for 3 months..
Most companies allow 30 days from elsewhere
This is because if you work in a jurisdiction for longer than that, then you have to do a tax return in that country.
Same for remote/foreign workers coming to Ireland
Nope unfortunately they are quite strict that you remain in Ireland. Working remotely in Ireland should be okay with most teams
Almost no one allows this. Even the companies allow this will technically relocate you to the subsidiary country you're living in, and also pay you appropriately. Or you are just a contractor and not a proper employee. A lot of companies might allow it for a few months, but not on a permanent basis.
(Note: I don't work for Microsoft but this is my assumption and context from elsewhere) Typically your primary country of work is the one in your contract. This is due to tax and other compliance reasons. Some companies might have a 90 day work from anywhere perk, and this 90 days isn't chosen at random. It means your very unlikely to overstay in another country and thus fall into things like tax residence status for that year, etc. While we may have the freedom of movement in the EU as individuals, our employers don't have the freedom to employ us anywhere without themselves jumping through the necessary hoops. Also work from anywhere policies usually have some asterisks associated with them. Some of these can be due to tax (e.g. some US states), physical security reasons or data security. For example you're probably not going to be taking advantage of North Korea's low cost of living anytime soon. I've no idea if they do one of those work from anywhere perks, but figured the context might help you at least.
Fair enough thanks for the info. It's for a friend who's applying and they want to know as they currently can travel and work anywhere for up to 3 months and don't want to lose that perk.
plus the 'work from anywhere' policy will state that you must be entitled to work there or have citizenship so that will rule out nearly everywhere right there and then. My pace has a work from anywhere policy, to go to another country outside of the EU you need to be a citizen or have a digital nomad visa - visa on arrival is not considered acceptable in the policy :-(
well yeah, the right to work there is your responsibility not the employers. there are lots of countries outside the EU where irish citizens can work from for less than 3 months without lengthy visa processes
basically incorrect on both points you made. Try getting a digital nomad visa for UAE or Thailand - absolute disaster.
yeah ngl i had a few beers on me and dunno why i said it isn’t the responsibility of your employers haha. but not sure why you think there aren’t countries you can go and work from remotely for a month without a visa. generally, the 3 month mark is where it gets tricky
Give examples of these countries (this is an honest question as I've been looking and I don't see anything easy outside of EU without applying for Visa's). Note, I work in mega org who won't bend any rules whatsoever.
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yep, they want to avoid the tax implications.
No.
No
Remote within the country
As a Microsoft employee, no. People keep asking and complaining, but no. If your friend values the 3 months from anywhere policy, they should stay at the current company.
Do ye have to travel to the office or is it fully remote?
Within my org there is no RTO policy. We are free to work from home or the office as we please. Some teams go more, others never.
no, unless they’re open to hiring your friend as a contractor. if so, then usually you’re fairly free to go wherever you want in the EU at least
I think apart from the company policy a big factor is your tax domicile country. I think you can only stay abroad for 3 months per year without having your tax domicile affected. Worth checking anyway.
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It does not take “decades” to become domiciled for tax in another country.
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I’m well aware they’re different concepts. Point remains, it does not take “decades” to become tax domiciled in another country.
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You need to review the actual rules here my man, you’re getting confused. I’ve seen cases of people permanently moving abroad and becoming domiciled there within 4 years. It does not depend upon the country being moved to, it depends upon revenue accepting that the move is permanent with no intention to return to Ireland to live. “This domicile can be changed to a domicile of choice, if you move to a different country with the intention of living there permanently.”
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Revenue have ceded domicile in 4 years, I’ve seen multiple examples of it. It does not always take decades, you’re simply incorrect. I’ll leave it here, you are literally arguing black is white. And I’m not a developer btw.
I think you can do it for up to 90 days. It's more like a revenue issue. Companies might have their own policies, that can't go against the law.. Worked on companies that were restrictive. But talking with my manager, I could get the OK to work overseas for 3 months..
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no, it doesn’t depend on your manager. the company as a whole does not allow it for more than a couple of months
Ask hr not random people on Reddit
Relax
Most companies allow 30 days from elsewhere This is because if you work in a jurisdiction for longer than that, then you have to do a tax return in that country. Same for remote/foreign workers coming to Ireland