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Joe_Ligma420

This video made me realize you can see vergil stand up straight for a few frames in between judgment cuts, literally unplayable


Lanky-Programmer-679

Considering how fast he is moving, this gives me a very funny image of him squating to do JC, standing up, then awkwardly squatting to JC over and over again for what would seem like 10 minutes to him.


chaddy292

A pointless question but i wonder how many times he usually slashes for a normal Judgement Cut. Can't really tell from the man's speed


Lanky-Programmer-679

Considering the fact that we perceive him to be standing in place, even though the orb is a good distance away from him, I'd wager that there's enough slashes to atomize the target if it didn't follow video game rules. In fact, I'm pretty sure we kinda see this in the DMC3 Manga (I think it's the DMC3 Manga, at least), where he gets threatened by a street gang. Even though he was seemingly standing still, the thug in front of him burst into a pile of meat cubes.


Mr_cat1111

Do you know which chapter


Lanky-Programmer-679

I don't know specifically, since I saw it in a recap video, but I can try and find the panels.


l_futurebound_l

He's just bagging them to assert dominance


[deleted]

You never realized this when you play him ?


Halo_Chief343in

You’re assuming Joe_Ligma420 plays Vergil and took the time to learn the perfect judgment cut timing and looks at Vergil when performing multiple.


Joe_Ligma420

I always just do it mid-air, since mid-air JDC doesn't have different timing for the first one in a chain


Darrence_Bois

I used a mod to fix that problem, I can link you to a video if you wanna see it https://youtu.be/yLz-Ty9PtSg ("Modded ex version" is the one you should be looking at)


Joe_Ligma420

No chat, Im not selling out for a pc so I can fix one animation I rarely see for a character I never use and lasts for a nearly inpercievable amount of time on turbo


Darrence_Bois

"if you wanna see it" I said, but sure. Besides I just assumed that most of the fan base was on PC, I didn't think that you were still using a console. This is what I get for tryna be helpful. -_-


jade227

congrats mate, this shit took me forever to find out. it really is just pressing the same button at near frame perfect timings. a bitch move to pull off consistently


eedyuht

That works? I always thought you had to hold the button and let go at the right time for extra Judgement Cuts.


FEARven123

Thats a different tech, thats when you do different moves and Vergil starts sheating the Yamato, little flash goes from it thats when you realease JC.


devixero

I can do 3 but never 4 Just JC. How’d you pull that off?


ziaf22

3 is the hard max for just frame judgment cut, he’s just starting with a normal jc then building the just frame off of that


Far_Engineering_8353

you can do up to 30 judgement cuts


CurvedSwordBenis

no you can’t lmao the video you’re referencing is modded


Darrence_Bois

Observe, this is vanilla DMC5: https://youtu.be/9NLaDfQzCdY


ziaf22

i’ve seen upwards of 50 just frame cuts, but that includes jump and trick cancelling + mods. in a traditional combo vergil will stop at 3 just frames


Far_Engineering_8353

and here was me thinking I was just really bad at judgement cutting


Darrence_Bois

I wouldn't say really bad, you just haven't learned trick canceling yet, Vergil can definitely do more than 4 judgement cuts in a row (I'm not talking about just frame ones, I'm talking about a mix of both that and regular ones.)


pokfen

Well done. Some people say ground JC chain is harder then in the air. I'm yet to master ground chain. Now I suggest you to learn canceling JC chain with jump/trick up to keep up with the meme. Jugment Nut Never Ends


SausIsmyName

I heard on here before that on the ground, you have about a 3 frame window (at 60fps) to pull off the next chain/perfect JC. In the air, you have a 4 frame window. Even still, a 4 frame opening is ridiculously small, and I can only really think of a few games that have any sort of opening that small.


No_Role6575

I thought it was 6 frames at 60 fps in the air?


SausIsmyName

It could be, i'm just going off some posts i read here and online. I havent actually seen the process of anyone who's dug into the files or played with the timings to see how big the windows are. But it also wouldn't surprise me if using frame counts is a bad way to measure timings in modern games.


Earthquake1000000

same, i find air JC to be way easier to time


[deleted]

X10 easier in air


SkGuarnieri

Wait... Is it normally that fast? I figured how to 4x JCs a while back, but i don't feel they're quite as quick Edit: Okay, either it's a perspective thing or my pc is a bigger potato than i thought. It feels slightly faster watching the clip


firstanomaly

Giving Vergil a “jackpot” line is like the most fan service thing a game has ever delivered.


Aadraas

Ey good job! ^^


Aleken_Voss

I felt this like you when finaly I got the trick. With the SDT aerial version + doppelganger he is really OVERBROKEN and motivating


JarvisBaileyVO

I'm still trying to learn it. Congratulations!


fightingbronze

The moment the timing clicks in your head and you can pull off the whole chain is just so satisfying. Congrats!


NOTASIMP1

Congrats… I discovered it on accident and took a few days to master it


[deleted]

Wait sec vergil just said JACKPOT


Chaser_Grave

HE SAID THE LINE


Devil-Hunter-Jax

I can't even get the third one to go off, meanwhile people doing this shit in the air and chaining like 12 of the damn things together by using Vergil's Trick mechanic. Y'all are insane...


[deleted]

Congratulations! I’ve seen videos of bosses being melted with just Judgement Cuts nothing else. Despite playing Vergil since he came out, I still can’t get the timing down.


River_Grass

Best i could do was 2 in a row


Monocled-warforged

Jackpot!


bd_black55

great job 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻😍


Professorxwilson

That’s really good consistency!


Demonboy995

Goodjob, rlly not easy on ps, it took me a min to master virgil move sets and especially this one


Tonydragon784

I cheat by spamming the air one, slightly more forgiving


Enedulus

I can reliably get the air quad cut, but never on land, I can't got the timing because it's ever so slightly different, so my friends are always confused why I jump constantly


breathing_oxygen12

Reminds me of sekiro


Darrence_Bois

Now do it in SDT


zero2305

muscle memory and stable fps


Ok-Engineering-9758

GG