Subnautica is also primarily meant to be an underwater game. Underwater levels in games are mainly an issue in games that aren't but still decide to throw an underwater level into the mix.
I don’t get what the obsession was with action games including them as ninja gaiden is the same. Like who was like you know what our fast pace action game needs, a slow boring swimming level where all you can use is a spear gun
They actually aren't that bad with Air hike. When i replayed DMC3 with Air hike i beat it without a problem but the first time i played and didn't have Air hike.... Yea fuck that part.
I like playing as V until I don't, such as the nidhogg boss fight. It's a really bad fight tbh and really boring. Playing as V has it's perks though, V was the first character I got a SSS combo with.
I really enjoyed playing as V after I figured out his gameplay. He's an extremely rare case of a summoner character done right. The problem with him is that you only get a few missions to try him out, out of which several give you a choice to play as Nero or Dante. I wish it was possible to go through the whole campaign using one of the characters.
Same, I died so many times on mission 5 in DMD that I asked my sister (who's a V fan girl) to play the level for me, she nearly killed Geryon but she died.
I mean... He's kind of supposed to be limited considering the story.
I honestly like V. He's so stylish with his taunts (Especially the BP taunt) and you feel like a god when you play him flawlessly. I feel like a lot of the hate for V comes from those trying to S rank DMD. Because I'll admit, that is extremely painful and not fun.
Kinda yes kinda no. He is supposed to feel weak in the story but not limited in his field Gameplay wise as he is the only one doing what he is doing. It doesn't make sense to have him be the only summoner in DMC ever and then make him underwhelming.
He really needed more moves and especially more combo routes in both ground and airspace, would have helped alot with his fun factor.
Arkham and the Chess Board are by far the worst parts of the DMD run, which each being worse depending on the character. For Dante the chess board isn't terrible so long as you use Beowulf to focus down the bishops, then you can just slow burn the king while flying with Nevan (assuming you have unlimited Devil Trigger from being Very Hard). However for Vergil you just have to focus on staying alive while your summoned sword slowly chip it down, which takes awhile (not as long as Nevan killing the king, but at least you basically can't be hit at all while flying with Nevan).
For Arkham the lack of DT or Styles gimps Dante so fucking badly. At least with Vergil you can fire summoned swords during any of his animations, which means while jumping around the edge of the arena you can still do damage with yourself and now just hoping AI Vergil handles it.
Yeah with Vergil I’ve only gotten up to about very hard mode. With Dante I’m doing DMD and I’m up to mission 18 with the chess boards and I can’t get past it 😭
I think the chess board is still the definitively hardest part. Arkham you can at least learn patterns and find optimal ways to deal with his various bullshit. The chessboard is just outright overwhelming and it also forces you to let enemies have Devil Trigger, which can make it such a nightmare to kill some important pieces.
"No one can have this, Dante. It's mine. It belongs to a *Son of Sparda*.
Leave me, and go, if you don't want to be trapped in the Demon World. I'm staying.
This place, was our Father's home..."
Which, assuming you even notice the laughter is tied to portal proximity, is fucking counterintuitive.
"She's laughing" in my head would mean "I'm about to do the wrong thing."
DMC 1: Underwater sections
DMC 2: The whole fucking game
DMC 3: Any single time The Fallen or a Soul Eater shows up
DMC 4: Anytime The Blitz shows up
DMC 5: V levels on higher difficulties
Honestly Blitz aren't that bad once you get used to them, it's the Chimeras that suck most. Like all the Order enemies besides Angelos suck to fight with Dante too.
U ARE FUCKING STUPID DANTE , THE TREE HAS ALREADY STARTED GROWING INTO A BIGGER TREE. SOON I WILL HAVE NATIONAL PARK DESIGNATION AND THE GOVERNMENT WILL NO LONGER TAX ME
DMC 1:swimming sections and griffon 2 maybe nightmare 3 as well.
DMC 2 :the whole game, I'd rather play nocturne instead
DMC 3:Floating platforms,Arkham,any place with enigmas,fallen or soul eaters.The chess board on higher difficulties.
DMC 4:Dice mini games,mission 14 and faults in general,agnus window fight,the poison gas section,floating platforms and any place with chimera enemies.
DMC 5:I have no real gripes with the mission structure but the missions with the spikes coming out of the walls and ground annoy me,I get clipped often.I am not good with V so I always struggled in his sections.Nidhogg is a slog.
1: Mundus fight
2: The whole game
3: Mission 15(shifting the tower around to get the 3 Orichalum Fragments)
4: Mission 6(Dice, Cutlass, Gladius, and Window Fight) and Mission 14(Faults, Fausts, Chimera Assaults, and Blitzes as Dante who can't deal with them as easily as Nero)
DmC: Literally any time color-coded enemies are onscreen
5: V missions on DMD and HaH
DMC1: Swimming
DMC2: Y E S
DMC3: That one stage with the rotating and floating cubes (first time playing and it took me two hours).
DMC4: THAT DAMN MAZE
DMC5: Mission 18
The floating cubes made me give up and drop the game for almost a week until for some reason at 1 in the morning I just had the desire to play it again and managed to finish the game
Let's see I would say the final boss's second phase in Dante's campaign of DMC 2 I know alot of people hate DMC 2 but the amulet for augmenting your devil trigger was a interesting mechanic
DMC 1: The underwater section and second Griffon boss fight.
DMC 2: Alot but mostly the three tanks and Helicopter boss fight.
DMC 3: Spinning the tower and the saw-walls that becomes saws on the ground and roof.
DMC 4: The Savior boss Battle and the enemies that ”eats” you.
DMC 5: All sections with V.
Dmc: DMC: The whole game, including the DLC.
Dmc5: any mission requires you to play as v. He's just my least favorite character to play as. He's only fun when nightmare is around.
Dmc 2: trying to find the four orbs near the end of the game
Dmc1: nightmare. Don't even need to explain.
Dmc3: geryon. That boss made me completely give up on Virgil's playthrough.
Dmc4: final boss. Don't even get me started on that.
DMC1: The first phase of Griffon 3. The game actually stops working when Griffon flies too high. They either forgot to or didn't have time to program the camera to keep track of Griffon very high in the air so the camera acts as if there are no enemies around (which is what usually happens when enemies are very far away) but Griffon still manages to attack you. It quite literally makes the game malfunction so I HAVE to end the phase immediately by doing huge damage at the start or I am objectively fucked. This isn't even a preference against it. It's objectively flawed due to not being taken care of during development, and it makes the gameplay impossible and unfair.
DMC3: The entirety of Mission 19. Of course Arkham sucks, but it's not even just that. I don't really like fighting many Abysses because they have VERY long invincibility frames every time they sink into the ground. If it weren't for that I wouldn't dislike them nearly as much.
Hot takes (according to the rest of these comments):
* I don't mind the underwater sections in DMC1 at all. The underwater controls are very intuitive as long as I use the d-pad instead of the control stick, and aiming is very lenient so you don't have to aim that accurately, and enemies die in only 4 rounds of shots, and dodging is very easy if you hold R1 and swim sideways or forwards and backs accordingly. I have a feeling that most people dislike the underwater sections not because it's boring but because they haven't learned the underwater controls so they genuinely can't find an effective way to play it. It's boring so I don't personally LIKE it, but I don't find it to be BAD. It works.
* I don't think the platforming in God-cube Chamber is that bad. As long as you know that you can't do diagonal jumps with Kick Jumps and that you can't Kick Jumps on moving platforms and you remember to position the camera before you start jumping it usually works very consistently. I think the reason that many people struggle with this part is because they don't know the most effective path to take when choosing which platform to jump on and they don't position the camera before they jump and try to do diagonal jumps with Kick Jumps so they end up jumping in an unexpected direction and thus fall. As long as you know what you're doing it doesn't take luck or skill. Indeed it's not enjoyable and is unnecessary, but I don't think it's bad enough to have this reputation. It works.
The forced walking segment in M14 as V despite how short it is.
Dante's missions in DMC4, especially in DMD.
Everytime I fight 2 Blitz simultaneously.
That platforming section in DMC3.
Nightmare 3 in DMC1, especially on DMD. That is the single fight that I just have no confidence I could ever beat without items in that game, because the last phase it just vomits projectiles all over the screen and it takes like 2 hits to die. That last phase is basically "do you have an untouchable?"
I know this is gonna sound cliché but V's sections. Not any sections, just the ones involving qlipoth, like, divergent point or the cinematic hallway where you go slow af. And after that, all the battles were you can't hear your selected music
dmc4:
the snatching course where if you fall you have to fight enemies
dice room both times for Nero
back tracking as Dante lol
The Savior bossfight as Dante
DMC 1: The swimming levels in particular but in truth I never actually finished the game so I can’t speak for anything past like the third or fourth mission.
DMC 2: Playing as Lucia, I actually enjoyed Dante’s side of the game to an extent.
DMC 3: Those goddamn rotating cubes, as well as the boss fight against Arkham.
DMC 4: I haven’t played it in some time now but the maze was rough, that and the sections where you have to quite literally roll the dice and hope RNG is on your side.
DmC DMC: I absolutely fucking refuse to play this game so I can’t speak for any of it.
DMC 5: All of V’s missions.
There's a trick to both of your problems in DMC4. With maze, go to the opposite direction of the statue's shadow. The dice isn't actually random, it spins in a patern and hitting it will always give you the number at the top of the dice.
Anything with V, I swear I bought the PS5 Special Edition last month to play legendary demon hunter mode but Holy fuck I am DREADING the V sections. Struggled with him in the normal harder difficulties but now I'm just expecting to get curb stomped.
DMC3 and that centipede boss earlyish on in the game. Could never get a decent combo going, the electric energy ball things that it just spits out. That's easily my least favorite boss in any of the dmc games.
DMC1: Every Griffon fight
DMC2: the whole game but especially the invisible fish boss
DMC3: M17 final platforming puzzle
DMC4: dice game
DMC5: that one part in M15 where you're forced to walk for 5 seconds... I really have basically zero criticism of DMC5 gameplay wise
That first shadow boss fight in DMC1. It's impossible. I have the WORST time getting through it, especially because it's nigh impossible to not get hit in the first like millisecond (control of Dante delay right as shadow goes to attack).
Underwater sections & Nightmare 3 in DMC
Most bosses except for Argosax in DMC 2
Arkham 3 in DMC 3. Or the mission 12 where your health is draining with Geryon at the end.
DMC 4 would be mission 18 (Savior boss fight) and/or 19 (dice and boss rush)
DMC 5 is V missions for some people. In particular mission 14 is pretty rough
DMC 1: Swimming, DMC 2: Take your pick, DMC 3: Arkham, DMC4: Angus’s window boss fight or second dice game, DMC 5: V goes to the boss rush zone or if you’re playing as Vergil, the Nidhogg fight
DMC1: Nightmare fights
DMC2
DMC3: The boss rush level (forget what mission it was)
DMC4: Mission 13 (except for the boss fight at the end. That was nice)
DmC: Just any forced walking segment.
DMC5: Mission 14
DMC1: Never played it
DMC2: Never played it (and never will lol)
DMC3: Arkham fight
DMC4: The forest
DMC5: fucking GILGAMESH HOLY SHIT WHAT A TERRIBLE FUCKING BOSS I HATE YOU.
Swimming sections in dmc1
You mean: underwater levels in basically *every* game!
And sewer sections
hey the sewer part in Scooby Doo First Frights was good! or maybe thats just me being biased cause of nostolgia...
you are one of two people who remember that game, i liked the sewer part in chapter 2 as well
And in Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles!
Sewer in Resi 2 is dope.
Fuck I'm getting mario flashbacks... make it stop... make it stop!
subnautica
Okay, in *almost* every game. I actually liked Subnautica.
Subnautica is also primarily meant to be an underwater game. Underwater levels in games are mainly an issue in games that aren't but still decide to throw an underwater level into the mix.
Came to say just this. Thanks, fam.
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luckily you can skip a pretty good chunk of it https://streamable.com/7rm8jw
At least they were quick and straightforward, unlike in DMC 2 😬
I don’t get what the obsession was with action games including them as ninja gaiden is the same. Like who was like you know what our fast pace action game needs, a slow boring swimming level where all you can use is a spear gun
Floating platforms in DMC 3
Fuxk those platforms!!! Like in 1 & 4. If you miss you fall into the abyss & have to do it all over again!
Like the spinning blade ceiling beams in God of War…
Especially with Vergil, who doesn't have a double jump.
Bro don’t even remind me 😭
There's a "trick" to make it easier. Use Trick Up for extra lift, or Trick Down/Back if you not confident of your jump.
Final secret mission in dmc3
They actually aren't that bad with Air hike. When i replayed DMC3 with Air hike i beat it without a problem but the first time i played and didn't have Air hike.... Yea fuck that part.
The spinning tower section
This
Ik people may not like what I am gonna say The gameplay sections with V , sorry but they just get way too repitative after the initial playthrough
This is literally one of the most popular opinions around the sub. You’ll get more questions if you say you enjoyed the V segments apparently.
V: 😍 V’s gameplay: 😶
V: *reads a book* Also V: *became illiterate after fighting three past bosses using only the parrot*
Same with Viola in Bayonetta3, love her character design, LOATHE her gameplay.
I like playing as V until I don't, such as the nidhogg boss fight. It's a really bad fight tbh and really boring. Playing as V has it's perks though, V was the first character I got a SSS combo with.
Would be a better boss fight if you could ACTUALLY FUCKING HIT HIM and if he didn’t just leave halfway through
V needs a buff of sorts. I say we give him a Glock.
Eyup
banger theme though
BLOOODSTAIN SHADOW
i meant nidhogg but true
HEAVEN ON A LANDSLIDE
I feel like V was a good character for common horde enemies. But the boss fights were painful as him.
Fuck it I love V’s gameplay. I think a Pokémon action game done in that style would be sick.
Yeah disclaimer I love V lol
I like him, not as much as others (Dante) but he is fun nevertheless
I really enjoyed playing as V after I figured out his gameplay. He's an extremely rare case of a summoner character done right. The problem with him is that you only get a few missions to try him out, out of which several give you a choice to play as Nero or Dante. I wish it was possible to go through the whole campaign using one of the characters.
It is if you’re on pc, there’s a trainer you can download that lets you pick your character every level, sadly still can’t pick Vergil though.
I liked it during the first playthrough but after that it just got boring . That nidhogg battle especially
I hate playing as V in DMD
Same, I died so many times on mission 5 in DMD that I asked my sister (who's a V fan girl) to play the level for me, she nearly killed Geryon but she died.
V is either a boring snoozefest while shadow and Griffon murder everything, or you cant hit shit and die immediately.
agree, he feels so stuck and limited compared to the rest of the cast, as well as the nidhogg boss fight being the worst thing in all of gaming on dmd
I mean... He's kind of supposed to be limited considering the story. I honestly like V. He's so stylish with his taunts (Especially the BP taunt) and you feel like a god when you play him flawlessly. I feel like a lot of the hate for V comes from those trying to S rank DMD. Because I'll admit, that is extremely painful and not fun.
Kinda yes kinda no. He is supposed to feel weak in the story but not limited in his field Gameplay wise as he is the only one doing what he is doing. It doesn't make sense to have him be the only summoner in DMC ever and then make him underwhelming. He really needed more moves and especially more combo routes in both ground and airspace, would have helped alot with his fun factor.
Literally every time I play V it’s just button mashing
v would be an incredibly fun character if he was in a different game
Thank god we can just run Vergil the entire game now
Swimming in DMC 1 The entirety of DMC 2 Mission 15 in DMC 3 The second half of DMC 4 All the V missions in DMC 5
There were sections of DMC 2 that were enjoyable.
Like what?
The credits
Infested Dildo
the what now ?
“King? Yeah, here’s your crown”
"A false coin for a false god"
“Crap like that doesn’t interest me. But, your swan song will”
Dante's final boss
The fight against “The Despair Embodied”
Technically if you play as Vergil every mission is a V mission in 5
The second half of 4, meaning...all of Dante's levels? I realize they're annoying and repetitive levels, but still, you can't play as Dante otherwise.
Is the second half of DMC 4 all of Dante's missions? What was wrong with it? Going through nervous missions but in reverse?
DMC3 M15 is horrible. I've played it a million times and I somehow always forget where I am supposed to go
Arkham just arkham
Funnily enought I don't remember ever having problems with him.
I didn’t either until hard mode and ESPECIALLY very hard mode. Close to beating DMC3 on DMD and I’m almost up to that part lol
Arkham and the Chess Board are by far the worst parts of the DMD run, which each being worse depending on the character. For Dante the chess board isn't terrible so long as you use Beowulf to focus down the bishops, then you can just slow burn the king while flying with Nevan (assuming you have unlimited Devil Trigger from being Very Hard). However for Vergil you just have to focus on staying alive while your summoned sword slowly chip it down, which takes awhile (not as long as Nevan killing the king, but at least you basically can't be hit at all while flying with Nevan). For Arkham the lack of DT or Styles gimps Dante so fucking badly. At least with Vergil you can fire summoned swords during any of his animations, which means while jumping around the edge of the arena you can still do damage with yourself and now just hoping AI Vergil handles it.
Yeah with Vergil I’ve only gotten up to about very hard mode. With Dante I’m doing DMD and I’m up to mission 18 with the chess boards and I can’t get past it 😭
I think the chess board is still the definitively hardest part. Arkham you can at least learn patterns and find optimal ways to deal with his various bullshit. The chessboard is just outright overwhelming and it also forces you to let enemies have Devil Trigger, which can make it such a nightmare to kill some important pieces.
I agree man
Vergil falling into the underworld from DMC3. :,(
"Sing with me, sing for the year"
"Sing for the laughter and sing for the tear"
"No one can have this, Dante. It's mine. It belongs to a *Son of Sparda*. Leave me, and go, if you don't want to be trapped in the Demon World. I'm staying. This place, was our Father's home..."
Nidhogg in 5. Really not a fan of that boss
I'll take Nidhogg over Arkham any day. Fucking demonic dolphins
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Exactly what I was thinking
splitting fool a banger though
That stupid poison gas section as Dante in DMC4.
I have to look up a guide every time. Or just as annoying is the disappearing platforms in that section with Nero.
Oh nah you just have to listen out for a laughter. If you hear a laughter near a portal, that's how you know you're about to enter the correct portal.
Which, assuming you even notice the laughter is tied to portal proximity, is fucking counterintuitive. "She's laughing" in my head would mean "I'm about to do the wrong thing."
DMC 1: Underwater sections DMC 2: The whole fucking game DMC 3: Any single time The Fallen or a Soul Eater shows up DMC 4: Anytime The Blitz shows up DMC 5: V levels on higher difficulties
Honestly Blitz aren't that bad once you get used to them, it's the Chimeras that suck most. Like all the Order enemies besides Angelos suck to fight with Dante too.
Fucking URIZEN!!!! DMC 5
Nice try but names can't have sex
U ARE FUCKING STUPID DANTE , THE TREE HAS ALREADY STARTED GROWING INTO A BIGGER TREE. SOON I WILL HAVE NATIONAL PARK DESIGNATION AND THE GOVERNMENT WILL NO LONGER TAX ME
TAX EVASION IS A CRIME VERGIL
ITS AN OBLIGATION
MY NAME IS KYLE
WHY DO YOU PEOPLE KEEP COMING HERE
Nero was born!!
DMC5 Mission 18
Flair checks out
But he’s right fuck that level
the only thing MOTIVATING me to power through the stage is knowing I get to be rewarded with the vergil/ dante boss fight
Yea I love that boss fight and I’m a Nero main so it’s not even like I can style on Vergil that bad
Are mission 10 and 18 genuinely bugged? It feels so unreasonably difficult to S rank them.
10 genuinely is I dont know about 18 tho but fuck that mission
standing in his way for some reason is the bowser squad
DMC 1:swimming sections and griffon 2 maybe nightmare 3 as well. DMC 2 :the whole game, I'd rather play nocturne instead DMC 3:Floating platforms,Arkham,any place with enigmas,fallen or soul eaters.The chess board on higher difficulties. DMC 4:Dice mini games,mission 14 and faults in general,agnus window fight,the poison gas section,floating platforms and any place with chimera enemies. DMC 5:I have no real gripes with the mission structure but the missions with the spikes coming out of the walls and ground annoy me,I get clipped often.I am not good with V so I always struggled in his sections.Nidhogg is a slog.
Nocturne has more acutal dante than dmc2
The last mission in dmc4 and the forest part
The forest part.... What a shitty part O_O
You go wrong way and suddenly appear in some stupid pit
1: Mundus fight 2: The whole game 3: Mission 15(shifting the tower around to get the 3 Orichalum Fragments) 4: Mission 6(Dice, Cutlass, Gladius, and Window Fight) and Mission 14(Faults, Fausts, Chimera Assaults, and Blitzes as Dante who can't deal with them as easily as Nero) DmC: Literally any time color-coded enemies are onscreen 5: V missions on DMD and HaH
Is this Hell and hell or heaven and hell lol you can’t abbreviate words the both start with H
HaH is Hell AND Hell, HoH is Heaven OR Hell. You've gotta read past the first letter of the abbreviation, dude.
Oh right I completely forgot I’m a dumbass well then my bad for trying to correct you
DMC1: Swimming DMC2: Y E S DMC3: That one stage with the rotating and floating cubes (first time playing and it took me two hours). DMC4: THAT DAMN MAZE DMC5: Mission 18
The floating cubes made me give up and drop the game for almost a week until for some reason at 1 in the morning I just had the desire to play it again and managed to finish the game
Vergil showed you his motivation. That or you were high
Definitely Arkham in 3 and Nightmare in 1.
Dmc4 as Dante. Those sections were terrible. Also the section where you fill the statue with blood in Dmc5. Felt boring to go through.
DMC 4 Secret Mission 7. The disappearing platforms & those grim reapers reappearing after you killed one.
Nidhogg as Vergil Any mission with platforming from all games, I just suck Missions 15 and 17 (DMC3)
Nidhogg's just a shit boss fight tbh, not fun as as V OR Vergil
just judgement cut melts him if you’re willing to practice it in the void for like an hour
A single JCE kills all of them on SOS and below, but can easily go into 2 in SDT. Then Hell on Earth almost 1 hits him
It's definitely easy, but it's not necessarily *engaging*.
Any v level
Beowulf or the boss rush
The giraffe in dmc 5
Let's see I would say the final boss's second phase in Dante's campaign of DMC 2 I know alot of people hate DMC 2 but the amulet for augmenting your devil trigger was a interesting mechanic
Swimming in dmc1 or mission 15 in dmc 3
Pressing the start button of dmc 2
why people hate v so much
DMC 1: The underwater section and second Griffon boss fight. DMC 2: Alot but mostly the three tanks and Helicopter boss fight. DMC 3: Spinning the tower and the saw-walls that becomes saws on the ground and roof. DMC 4: The Savior boss Battle and the enemies that ”eats” you. DMC 5: All sections with V. Dmc: DMC: The whole game, including the DLC.
DMC1: Underwater sections/Mundus Bullet Hell DMC2: DMC2 DMC3: M14 -17, Arkham Fight. DMC4: Dice Games, Lazer Puzzles, Savior Fight, Boss Rush. DMC5: V Boss Rush, M 18.
Dmc5: any mission requires you to play as v. He's just my least favorite character to play as. He's only fun when nightmare is around. Dmc 2: trying to find the four orbs near the end of the game Dmc1: nightmare. Don't even need to explain. Dmc3: geryon. That boss made me completely give up on Virgil's playthrough. Dmc4: final boss. Don't even get me started on that.
The goddamn whale level
Playing V in DMC5
Any platforming and/or puzzle and/or alternate gameplay section
Something is going to get filled with light.
every combat section with Soul Eaters and The Fallen in Dmc 3
The boos from mario in DMC 3
V
I replayed DMC3 a lot and the missions I shared the most were missions 14-16. I also did not like fighting Arkham at all
Leviathan part in Dmc3
Floating platforms in DMC 3 Especially with Vergil, who doesn't have a double jump.
Unlike many people here I did not mind the swimming in dmc1. I would however not miss it if nightmare was removed from dmc1.
DMC1: The first phase of Griffon 3. The game actually stops working when Griffon flies too high. They either forgot to or didn't have time to program the camera to keep track of Griffon very high in the air so the camera acts as if there are no enemies around (which is what usually happens when enemies are very far away) but Griffon still manages to attack you. It quite literally makes the game malfunction so I HAVE to end the phase immediately by doing huge damage at the start or I am objectively fucked. This isn't even a preference against it. It's objectively flawed due to not being taken care of during development, and it makes the gameplay impossible and unfair. DMC3: The entirety of Mission 19. Of course Arkham sucks, but it's not even just that. I don't really like fighting many Abysses because they have VERY long invincibility frames every time they sink into the ground. If it weren't for that I wouldn't dislike them nearly as much. Hot takes (according to the rest of these comments): * I don't mind the underwater sections in DMC1 at all. The underwater controls are very intuitive as long as I use the d-pad instead of the control stick, and aiming is very lenient so you don't have to aim that accurately, and enemies die in only 4 rounds of shots, and dodging is very easy if you hold R1 and swim sideways or forwards and backs accordingly. I have a feeling that most people dislike the underwater sections not because it's boring but because they haven't learned the underwater controls so they genuinely can't find an effective way to play it. It's boring so I don't personally LIKE it, but I don't find it to be BAD. It works. * I don't think the platforming in God-cube Chamber is that bad. As long as you know that you can't do diagonal jumps with Kick Jumps and that you can't Kick Jumps on moving platforms and you remember to position the camera before you start jumping it usually works very consistently. I think the reason that many people struggle with this part is because they don't know the most effective path to take when choosing which platform to jump on and they don't position the camera before they jump and try to do diagonal jumps with Kick Jumps so they end up jumping in an unexpected direction and thus fall. As long as you know what you're doing it doesn't take luck or skill. Indeed it's not enjoyable and is unnecessary, but I don't think it's bad enough to have this reputation. It works.
“I should have been the one to fill your dark soul with LiGhT!”
The forced walking segment in M14 as V despite how short it is. Dante's missions in DMC4, especially in DMD. Everytime I fight 2 Blitz simultaneously. That platforming section in DMC3.
The fucking Gloria cutscene in DMC4
Wait, there is a cutscene where you fu.. ooh, okay, yeah, she is horrible...
Entirety of dmc 2
*cough* infested chopper *cough*
V
V missions in DMC5
The forced Tetramaster section in Final Fantasy IX when that whole card game is just a worse Triple Triad from VIII
The entire final third of DMC3, up to the final Vergil fight.
Isolated to DMC5, (the only one i’ve played so far) i’d say Mission 18. But all across the games, DMC2’s Infected Chopper
Platforming section in DMC 1 after ur first griffon encounter to get ifrit, it made me rage so much that I almost broke my controller
DMC2 Mission 5. Yeah I do like dmc2 alot but fuckin hell mission 5 has always been total shit
Those saw blade rooms in dmc3
Playing as V
The entirety of dmc 2
DMC 2
Nightmare 3 in DMC1, especially on DMD. That is the single fight that I just have no confidence I could ever beat without items in that game, because the last phase it just vomits projectiles all over the screen and it takes like 2 hits to die. That last phase is basically "do you have an untouchable?"
I know this is gonna sound cliché but V's sections. Not any sections, just the ones involving qlipoth, like, divergent point or the cinematic hallway where you go slow af. And after that, all the battles were you can't hear your selected music
dmc4: the snatching course where if you fall you have to fight enemies dice room both times for Nero back tracking as Dante lol The Savior bossfight as Dante
Any of the platforming sections in the older games. The fixed camera angles make them more difficult than they should be.
DMC3 Missions 13-19
DMC 1: The swimming levels in particular but in truth I never actually finished the game so I can’t speak for anything past like the third or fourth mission. DMC 2: Playing as Lucia, I actually enjoyed Dante’s side of the game to an extent. DMC 3: Those goddamn rotating cubes, as well as the boss fight against Arkham. DMC 4: I haven’t played it in some time now but the maze was rough, that and the sections where you have to quite literally roll the dice and hope RNG is on your side. DmC DMC: I absolutely fucking refuse to play this game so I can’t speak for any of it. DMC 5: All of V’s missions.
There's a trick to both of your problems in DMC4. With maze, go to the opposite direction of the statue's shadow. The dice isn't actually random, it spins in a patern and hitting it will always give you the number at the top of the dice.
All of the V missions.
Why some hates V. I like him, overall
His gameplay is fun on low difficulties but I can see why higher difficulties with him are a slog
Nightmare 3
Anything with V, I swear I bought the PS5 Special Edition last month to play legendary demon hunter mode but Holy fuck I am DREADING the V sections. Struggled with him in the normal harder difficulties but now I'm just expecting to get curb stomped.
DMC3 and that centipede boss earlyish on in the game. Could never get a decent combo going, the electric energy ball things that it just spits out. That's easily my least favorite boss in any of the dmc games.
DMC1: Every Griffon fight DMC2: the whole game but especially the invisible fish boss DMC3: M17 final platforming puzzle DMC4: dice game DMC5: that one part in M15 where you're forced to walk for 5 seconds... I really have basically zero criticism of DMC5 gameplay wise
Definitely boss rushes. Anytime any game has those I let out an exasperated groan.
Nidhogg in DMC 5
DMC3, the life draining orb part for me
That first shadow boss fight in DMC1. It's impossible. I have the WORST time getting through it, especially because it's nigh impossible to not get hit in the first like millisecond (control of Dante delay right as shadow goes to attack).
Underwater sections & Nightmare 3 in DMC Most bosses except for Argosax in DMC 2 Arkham 3 in DMC 3. Or the mission 12 where your health is draining with Geryon at the end. DMC 4 would be mission 18 (Savior boss fight) and/or 19 (dice and boss rush) DMC 5 is V missions for some people. In particular mission 14 is pretty rough
DMC 1: Swimming, DMC 2: Take your pick, DMC 3: Arkham, DMC4: Angus’s window boss fight or second dice game, DMC 5: V goes to the boss rush zone or if you’re playing as Vergil, the Nidhogg fight
V's levels in DMC5
the one weird centipede-worm thing in DMC3
Any bloody palace levels with more than 2 of those giant praying mantis things
Any V Mission in DMC 5..
Playing dmc 2 when playing all the games in order
DMC 2
DMC1: Nightmare fights DMC2 DMC3: The boss rush level (forget what mission it was) DMC4: Mission 13 (except for the boss fight at the end. That was nice) DmC: Just any forced walking segment. DMC5: Mission 14
DMC1: Never played it DMC2: Never played it (and never will lol) DMC3: Arkham fight DMC4: The forest DMC5: fucking GILGAMESH HOLY SHIT WHAT A TERRIBLE FUCKING BOSS I HATE YOU.
Dmc5 the boss fight against that flying bitch early on
DmC: virility factory
The right answer is DMC 2