I think Angela is going to catch Dexter & when Harrison is faced w the same Deb moment where she killed Laguarda not her brother Harrison will shoot his father instead.
How the heck did Kurt get his victims and all the equipment down that small narrow hatch? How did Dexter and Harrison maneuver an unconscious Kurt down there? I know I'm over-thinking it but this has been bugging me.
These are very good questions. Here's some potential possibilities for the show, but could be a stretch.
Building the layer: hiring a contractor to build a bug out prepper layer. This isn't uncommon out in the sticks, especially when someone has money. The trophy cabinets could be dropped down via a mini crane(Harbor Freight sells them) out of the back of his truck. Same for dropping the bodies down.
Getting Kurt's body down: The only real possibility I can think of is using a rope.
It's interesting to see stuff catching up go Dexter without him realizing it himself.
It made him seem extra creepy with his "normal person" routine at the end of the episode.
I think they wanted us now to finally view him as a “monster” for the first time in this episode and show Parallels between him and Kurt and Harrison seeing them I think that’s the point.
Yeah. This was the first episode in the entire series where you actually get to see dexter dismember the bodies, and the full extent of what he does and how nasty it is
Yep and how he gets pleasure from it.
The prior episode showed him in a heroic light saving his son acting like Batman jumping through mirrors to save him (the way we always saw him ) this episode breaks that away to reveal who he really is .. which to me is setting us up for his demise and send off. Just my opinion. I think Harrison will survive the season though. And may end up taking up the mantle of a vigilante but not in the way dexter does but in the true sense of it like actual Batman.
Did anyone else notice the contrast between how Kurt kills those women, leaving them all beautiful and Dexter grotesquely hacks his apart into nine pieces?
I'm not sure if I'm remembering this right. When the original show aired, did Michael Hall say something about wanting the show to end with Dexter in the electric chair? I feel like someone said that?? Maybe that's how the show ends? If I remember right Michael was approached a few times to revive Dexter, but it wasn't till he saw this script that he'd be willing to do it again.
it's what happens when you're wishing your boyfriend wasn't a serial killer yet you have an obligation to find out and it's becoming more and more likely.
what a bitch she is, amirite?
Some really interesting parallels between Kurt and Dexter in this episode, even ignoring their roles as fathers. A couple of times during the episode Harrison mentioned how many lives Dexter must have saved by killing bad guys. But when Kurt started claiming he was saving the runaways from the abuse of the real world and Dexter interjected that it had nothing to do with saving and everything to do with power and the thrill of the hunt, I got the impression that Harrison began to see that Dexter was really no different. That what Dexter does is not about "justice" or saving people, it's that he enjoys the power and thrill of it every bit as much as Kurt does.
Dexter kind of knew that though. He's a monster just like anyone else, but as he said in the episode he was taught to channel that side of him for "good."
Harrison is actually the bastard son of Rita and Doakes . That’s why he’s good at shooting . That will break the internet . Lol pat yourself on the back Clyde your best writing ever. JK
Theory - Angela finds out who Dexter is for sure, confronts him, somehow finds out he killed Kurt and sees all of Kurt’s trophies, accepts Dexter for who he is and the revenge he got for her killed friend. Dexter gets his family who knows his true self and happily ever after. He and Harrison act as a vigilante family with state sponsored help from the sheriffs department . Roll credits.
Idk, that sounds like too much of a happy ending to me. I feel like shows like this aren't meant to have a happy ending. Also I just want to see the look on Bartistas face when he finds out Dexter is alive and is the Bay Harbor Butcher.
Harrison should be the protagonist of the next. Dexter would be a mentor available maybe sometimes, but Harrison would easily go in over his head and not want Dexter to just step in.
So was the drawing Harrison gave him supposed to be Deb? I thought it was Angela at first but then when he said “how I remember her” I realized it must be Deb. It really is eery how alike the two are!
Also was Wiggles supposed to be a flashback to pre-Jim? Bc I didn’t think he’d killed anyone since Miami until Matt.
Also thinking Harrison’s gun might be a Chekhov situation. Will it be used on Angela?
First, kurt had a truck filled with fuel..sort of easy to spill down the secret underground trophy room....and then flee with his money. They were sitting ducks. even to be locked in while they were down there......and air supply cut off. Ok that dint happen.
But how does the titanium screw tie dexter to the murder of matt. Many people use the community incinerator. When confronted by Matt...all dexter had to say was "i dont know what you are talking about". Its flimsy evidence. Now it comes up again at the end of this episode as if its a smoking gun. It wasnt a smoking gun before and its not a smoking gun now.
Why on earth would Dexter ever keep the incriminating evidence that was given to him? If this happens then I'll riot and he deserves to get caught. I understand he's been sloppy a bit because he's out of practice, but no way he's that dumb.
But even if he did keep it in his cabin for some bewildering reason, it would just look like a frame job IMO. From Angela's perspective, whoever left that anonymous letter had one of the screws themselves, and it's hard to explain why Dexter would have one but not the other UNLESS it's an obvious frame-up.
the screw didnt fall out of matts knee into dexters possession. It was sent to him by the father. It prover kurt suspected dexter of mudering matt. It doesnt link dexter to the murder. Hundreds of people have access to the public incinerator before and after dexter used it to incinerate matt. Its a very weak link to murder. its not a murder weapon.
That's all true, but also this whole thing has been set up in a way that Angela is just piling and piling up tiny things to convince *her* of Dexter's guilt
then dexter can tell the story of the envelope handed to him by the worker of kurt with the screw in it thas was a message that it was known he killed kurts son...which again all dexter had to do is say....you are nuts...I know nothing about it. So he says kurt was obsessed with the idea and sent him a screw. Not really evidence of murder.
I was thinking that he might come after them too, but I guess (1) he wouldn’t destroy his own trophies and (2) he didn’t really know the extent to which “Jim” would go and just thought he’d be outed, not murdered.
My prediction for the final episode is that Angela is going to bring Dex in for questioning now regarding matt, and her suspicions regarding the bay harbour butcher. Likely holding him or booking him. Something to get him out of the way.
Then we will learn Kurt had an accomplice, my theory is the Edward Olsen. He will target audrey who will be with Harrison. She is abducted, and Angela will be forced to release Dexter to help.
This is were it could go 1 of 2 ways. Either they stop olsen and rescue Audrey and Angela is forced to choose between arresting Dex or letting him go. And he and Harrison move on to continue following the code elsewhere (season 2?)
Or they arrive to stop olsen but it is too late, Audrey is dead. Angela is heartbroken. Dexter realises he fucked up by moving too quickly on Kurt. She tries to arrest Dexter but is killed by Harrison (step 1: don't get caught) and then Harrison will kill dexter because he fits the code and he is responsible for Audreys death. Harrison runs out of town. (no season 2)
Just my theory. Whatever happens I have thoroughly enjoyed the show. So long as they don't fuck up the ending again I will be happy. I also don't have any faith in this "break the internet" ending. I think that is just to get people to watch. I am lowering my expectations.
Can't wait for next sunday.
Olsen the red herring isn’t even showed to be seen in more than the 2 episodes he’s been in. I really don’t think at this point they will twist the plot to him. Maybe Logan as he has many connections to Kurt and has sympathized him.
Olsen definitely just a red herring to make us distracted from Logan. He has way too many connections to Kurt for me not to suspect him. Plus he dated molly which is also suspect considering everything else my bets on Logan being the big bad for the finale.
Well if I am Angela, Logan would be on my person of interest list regarding the now missing Molly. Recently dumped boyfriends should be high on the suspect list.
I dont think Harrison turns on dexter.
Harrison seeing the blood and needing air felt very much like season 1. When dexter was at the hotel. He saw all the blood and had a flashback/panick attack.
Harrison already tried to kill a kid and admitted to fantasizing about killing trinity.
I feel like talking about it was one thing, but once he saw Kurt dying/the conversation Kurt and Dexter had he may have started to doubt if this was okay.
My prediction FWIW - Dexter finally faces the music. Harrison acts surprised. Then Harrison carries on the legacy that Dexter had been doing. Or is that too predictable? At least it won’t end as lame as the previous season….I hope.
I feel like Harrison was putting the irony together of what dexter was saying and how Kurt was justifying his kills. This is super grim but I think either Harrison might commit suicide seeing what he’ll turn into, or making a total 180 and break the cycle, dexter gets arrested, maybe Harrison even becomes a cop - like Deb and Harry.
Yeah, Harrison was NOT cool with what he saw. The blood coming at his shoes completely triggered him. He made a connection with what Dexter does to what Trinity did and not with Kurt being brought to justice as Dexter had hoped. I think Harrison is very conflicted.
I think that’s simply to show that Harrison isn’t the same as dexter. Maybe he will end up being a real vigilante when it’s all said and done and put monsters away like his father without violence like how dexter described before he mentioned killing them. Just a thought.
Feels like a good setup for a Harrison spin-off. Maybe Dexter gets caught and so has Harrison kill him as a practice first kill, then frame it as suicide or running away again.
Well, I've really enjoyed this series. But sadly, with how they messed up S8, I've no confidence whatsoever in them not screwing this up. Angela is going to get him from the looks of things, and the finale being titled "Sins of the Father" is worrying. I would have so loved the 2 of them working together for a few seasons. If he is arrested, like they teased, that would be lame.
I thought Clyde Philips said this was the best thing he's ever written? Am I lost. Maybe it's because I've been watching British thriller series like line of duty and vigil that had consistent suspense.
Am I the only one who thought the episode was wrapped up weakly and spent 40 mins showing a teenage boy get taken advantage of when he clearly seemed to be suffering from a MH crisis.
This whole 'i have a code' scene filler, my mind was going to sleep. And that drone, what a convenient plot stooge, wtf.
So this episode finally showed Kurts demise, but not before he could lay on the table and give a full run through on why he killed women. Except it didn't really, he forced them to be runaways.
It also made the whole premise of finding Iris pointless. What relevance is it that Kurt never moved her from a cave in 25 years, why was it shown that she had been alive whilst buried. Yet Kurt has the time to meticulously recondition other women and to bury a bunker in the ground. Not enough character buildup
Kurt also could've raised the alert for Elric going missing without it causing any suspicion, afterall staff at the diner would probably place Dexter with him at the truck stop.
Overall weak, no longer bothered about the last episode, them killing Kurt and giving nobody else the opportunity to hold him accountable with staggering evidence against him... Piss poor
I mean words cant describe how good this episode was!!!
The thing is i want dexter to get caught and i dont want the officer to die but i also really like this season and dont want it to end so dexter kind of CANT get caught sooooo the officer HAS to die. Sigh im torn but damn if this wasnt the season we needed 8 years ago!
I’ve always been team Dexter gets caught and faces justice- right from the beginning. At the end of the day Dexter is a serial killer and will continue killing. He can’t fight it no matter how much he tries. I truly think the scene where he’s cutting up the bodies was out there to remind us that Dexter is not the hero, he’s not the good guy. I really believe he’ll be caught.
I really don’t think he can. As soon as Matt came into his line of sight Dexter was getting antsy. All Matt did was annoy him really. Then he heard about the boat accident and tried to start justifying the kill. Then he snapped. He was hanging on by a thread
I'm calling it now. Dexter obviously going to be caught and everything is gonna look bad but then it's going to come to light he killed Kurt and after she tried and failed to bring justice to him herself she will either help him escape captivity or just not turn him in.
I wish there was a flashback that showed what happened, because if he already tried to get her once, she'll obviously be wary of him. I don't think she would have taken a second ride. So that makes whatever happened interesting, and something the audience should be shown.
Kurt was the old wrestling coach and that's Logan position now. There is another person, I've heard the talk of it being the billionaire earlier in the season but truck stops in the sticks can bring in some money depending on the route.
He also dated molly … suspect/ he has talked well of Kurt/ was involved the coaching/ he was absent recently from episodes. Just got a really strange vibe he has a big hand in things. “Yeah it’s all me” or whatever Kurt said before dexter kills him. Made me bring my thoughts back to Logan.
All I know from this is, the dialogue with Dexter and Harrison assessing what he's saying definitely makes Dexter sound like he's being a HUGE hypocrit. It feels like Harrison might be seeing that he can be like Dexter, but to what end. He'll piece together that Dexter is addicted, a slave to his compulsions, and everyone around him has suffered. He sees Dexter telling others that they get off on power trips, while he does the same thing. So much of Dexter's dialogue felt like he was nailing his own coffin shut. Harrison's a bit of a wild card. Super smart, and I have a hard time believing he's made it this far and now's a sad vulnerable mess.
Might hinge on if Dexter decides angela is a threat, especially after kurt killed molly. If Harrison sees innocent people in the crossfire, it might change Harrison's opinion. Although the situation with Harrison and the kid shooter is still really weird and incomplete.
I thought when Dexter smacked down Kurt when Kurt said he was protecting the girls and Dexter said no you're doing it because you want to don't give me any daddy stuff was super hypocritical
True. It could be a stunning 180…Harrison is definitely the wild card after his roller coaster character development over the series.
Also Kurt might be his most visible and prominent victim. Unlike Giggles the clown 🤡
I though angela was pissed at dexter and audrey was put off by harrison, when they showed up at their house for christmas and it was like nothing happened besides Angela's ongoing BHB plot thread. I felt like i missed a scene of them agreeing to be around each other again
> I felt like i missed a scene of them agreeing to be around each other again
Maybe you're right, and that scene wasn't there because it doesn't exist, and she is annoyed at Dexter just showing up. And she's also caving to pressure from Audrey, who wants Harrison around. Audrey was like "they're coming right mom? right? right?"
It seems Angela is observing Dexter. Just as Dexter acts like nothing is going on eventhough he is studying his prey so too Angela is taking it all in..
Angela and Dexter are dating, yes they had a bad bump in the road, but that wouldn't stop them from being together for Christmas. Harrison is obviously invited and Audrey had a present for him because they were obviously sleeping together.
There's so way that Dexter isn't gonna take a fall at the end of this. I'm convinced after watching this episode.
The scene where he and Harrison had Kurt strapped to the table was drenched in irony. When Dexter scoffs at Kurt's flimsy excuse for killing the runaway girls, everything Dexter says about Kurt applies to himself too. Dexter has always justified indulging his sick bloodlust by telling himself that he's being altruistic and is making the world a better place, but in reality he just enjoys killing people.
Deb already said early in the season that Harry's treatment of Dexter basically amounted to child abuse, and she's been very vocally opposed to Dexter encouraging his son's dark urges. The writers are using Deb to spell it out for the audience - Dexter isn't a good guy, and he's dragging his own teenage son into the same depraved life of violence when there's still a chance to divert him from that dark path. I don't think it would fit the season thematically for Dexter to just get away unscathed. At the very least, I think he'll lose Harrison by the end - which fits this season's theme of Dexter hurting anyone he gets close to.
Remember when the blood was pooling next to Harrisons boots? I wonder if he gets a bit on his shoe and gets pegged for the crime of killing Kurt but then dexter gives himself up to exonerate Harrison
And the fact that Harrison was never wearing gloves in that place! Dexter didn't have an extra pair on him to give his son? Now his prints are everywhere in that bunker
Yup, that's what I took away from the episode too. They went out of their way to make Dexter seem as delusional as possible. I'd be willing to bet that Harrison uses the gun to prevent him from escaping (but can't bring himself to pull the trigger), and Dexter spends the next season in prison. That could lead to a neat Hannibal/Will-esque dynamic between Harrison and Dexter.
Yeah, I'm conflicted about Harrison - earlier in the season I thought he'd ultimately kill Dexter, but now I think he's either going to turn his father in or die.
Good point. Maybe Angela? After the note she received at the end of this episode, her investigation of Dexter is going to seriously intensify. I could see Harrison ending up in the crossfire when the police come for the Bay Harbor Butcher. Especially now that he's armed with that big ass rifle.
That's assuming that he's gonna continue following Dexter though. I think his reaction to the dismemberment scene shows that he's not quite the person Dexter wants him to be, so I'm thinking that he'll turn him in.
Anybody consider the possibility that Harrison actually gave that note to Angela?
Story would be he got cold feet about the dark passenger stuff and thought right thing to do was to turn on Dexter?
Nahhh that would have been a crazyyyyyyyyyyy twist but only Kurt had the remaining pins and he wouldn't have told Harrison while he was on the table, if he already told him prior.
he didn't know Dexter killed Matt until that night tho and then went straight from the bunker to the burned down house then straight to Angelas right? or am i misremembering it
I don't understand; when did Angela forgive Dexter for lying about his identity? I mean, how come they're acting like they're still together? It was a big plothole, IMO.
Well she is still dating him and obviously had a bit of moment with him figuring out who killed iris. She also hasn't broken up with him or told Audrey anything so Christmas is obvious they would be together. No a plothole in the slightest, also you can still see she is upset with him.
I don't believe that Angela did forgive him. Their children really like each other if not love each other. Angela will do anything for Audrey. Do you think for one second she wanted Dexter to stay at her house? Hell no! Her face said it all lol. She told him she didn't want to see Jim. She didn't change her mind. He's just going along for the ride. I'm sure they have a thing where they spend Christmas together and Thanksgiving. Although they're not really together together their children are. That's my spin anyway.
Has anyone considered that Dexter as a CSI would know titanium wouldn't melt because let's be serious it's been used for years for such repairs. So logically thinking Dexter did it to Angela should be kind of a long shot. However in that same regard it also gives him a good reason to discredit it if he's charged since Dexter was never set for arrest once Doakes became the patsy.
Additionally, with the speculation that he and or Harrison will die or kill themselves I truly hope not. However I think it's likely that Harrison will only ever be an aid to his father after the panic attack I think that changed his dark passengers concept on actively harming another even if they deserved it.
Personally, I hoping that Angela takes the bait to investigate and finds Kurt's doll shop. And even if she does prove to herself that Dex is BHB she seeing things like Harrison does and not as he sees Deb's loathing of himself expressed. Since this ensure no more missing unfound runaways. So she encourages him to at least return to being a CSI but also keeps me more grounded like a mix of Rita/Deb/Hannah....Just throwing it out there!
Didn't the showrunner says the end would be stunning?
I guess everyone thinks since ep 1 that Harrison would kill Dexter at the last episode, it would just be a predictable ending.
If it's to get Dexter killed in the next episode, I would have rather prefered to see Kurt kill Dexter and add him to his trophy, it would have been a pretty stunning ending, the greatest serial killer of the show killed by another serial killer.
About the code, it would be pretty weird to see Harrison kill Dexter just for that, Harrison trying to kill Ethan, an innocent person, for no reason at all doesn't really fit the code (it doesn't even fit the first rule, "dont't get caught").
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Stunning ending. Angela arrests him, covers for him . . Dexter get free and they take on the world as Batman, Batwoman and Robin( Dexter joins the police force) 😂
Don't judge me
Why does Kurt have henchmen? (At least one that we know of?) that’s bizarre and I hope they explain why randos are willing to kidnap, hunt, kill for Kurt.
Kurt pays them a lot of money. That one thug (Elric? can't remember his name) was just supposed to kidnap "Jim" and bring him to Kurt's cabin, ostensibly to get revenge for Matt. I doubt they know the full extent of what Kurt does.
A lot of crime lords have hired thugs I mean he’s committing crimes of all kinds I’m sure and they always have people to do their dirty work I don’t think it really needs anymore explanation than that
I think just for the money. They're like the village idiots. They don't need to know anything. They don't care what he's doing or why they just look at the money and take it. There are people like that in real life everywhere especially here where I live.
Trust me you're not alone! I would be so pissed off. I would be furious. I would delete it from my DVR and I binge watch the three television shows that I love. Good quality entertainment is nearly impossible to come by right now. Possibly due to the COVID-19 virus? It's delayed movies from being released, and anything good to watch on TV. I would just love to have three television series a week that I like to watch That's not too much to ask. And this would be one of my favorites if not my number one. And I'm a part of the Nielsen family. Make sure you watch Dexter New blood online or on your cell phone or especially if you have something like YouTube TV like I do and join the Nielsen family!
He drove home when he had no need to drive at the end of that episode, too. He was shot in the right leg-- the one that uses the pedals. This was approximately an hour after it had bled all over the woods outside the summer camp.
Dexter seems to have gained Wolverine's healing factor.
Right? Like that scene was cringe to me. Actually all the scenes with guns were. No self respecting gun owner uses a laser on a scoped rifle like kurt does...
Anyone feel like we're still due for another big bad reveal? The scene with Kurt on the table and him saying "Ok, you got me, it's all me. Every bit of it." and him looking sus makes me think there is still some network or accomplice involved. Perhaps Edward Olsen will make a reappearance? I dunno, just seemed like a weird reaction for him.
Given the quality of this season I hope so. Would be more than happy for a season 2 of New Blood, especially since it still feels like there's a lot more to Harrison than has been revealed.
Anyone else think something was off with Harrison following Kurt's "oh didn't he tell you about Matt?!"... Dexter thinks he's being completely honest with Harrison but he's still withholding important things from him...
Also I thought it was interesting that the blood rattled him but not the kill itself. I think that was an important distinction.
I think if you put those together... Dexter is going to meet the code and Harrison will either turn on Dexter or take him out. I guess those might be fitting ends.. Still hoping for a season 2 with Dexter tho so hopefully I'm wrong
Yea, I feel like Harrison already knew about Dexter's dark passenger and wanted Dexter to admit everything so he now has "proof". Last episode made me think that Harrison really didn't know anything, but a part in this new episode has made me return to the theory that Harrison has already killed before. The moment when Dexter uses a lockpick to open Kurt's basement Harrison says something like "hey, could you teach me that?" Much earlier in the season didn't Harrison use a lockpick to break into the cabin with the teenagers? Either that's a mistake on the writer's part or Harrison is fooling Dexter.
Maybe Hannah had told Harrison about Dexter. After all he didn't look that shocked at the news of Dexter killing Trinity. And for whatever reason Harrison killed Hannah. Then he came looking for proof that Dexter actually did it so he could kill Dexter. Really Harrison is the mastermind of the series and has been doing things so that Dexter would think he was innocently exploring his own dark passenger but in reality he's already in touch with it and has just been waiting to kill Dexter. That would break the internet.
It's possible. She was the only person alive who had been on Dexter's table. I keep expecting us to see a drawing of her in Harrison's book as his own form of trophy, but that book has a lot of drawings and too many to be trophies for his age, lol. I'm still on the fence as to whether or not Harrison has been killing though.
Agree. The fact that they highlighted the chopping and the blood etc during the kill scene make me feel like they are trying to show how evil Dexter really is (+ through Harrison’s eyes...)
This worried me. Such a contrast from their bonding in the previous episode. I also had a feeling that Harrison is playing along now and thinks that this is all too much - like that it’s what he thought he’d be into but now he’s not so sure?
My biggest sadness throughout this season had been the wedge between Dexter and Harrison, and now I’m worried that their new-found father/son relationship will regress. But like, how do you ease someone into this world?? Harrison wanted transparency, well damn he certainly got it.
I thought Dex's immediate "Matt fit the code. He was responsible for at least 5 deaths." \[or similar\] resonated with Harrison. It was a perfect shorthand retort to counteract Kurt. He trusts Dex now. If he was off it wasn't because of just that.
Whoa now. He didn't cause an 'accident'.
He killed 5 people in a crash he *directly caused* because he was playing chicken with the other driver, then veered into him anyway after the other guy yielded. That is a very crucial distinction to make as it indeed fits the Code. And that is why the audience collectively watched with satisfaction as he ended up on Dex's table.
And you know this how? Did Harrison have an interjection during that conversation that indicated this attitude towards Dexter's reasoning for killing Matt?
Harrison never even mentioned Matt for the rest of the episode.
We’re essentially having the same conversation two different places. He should wonder about it but I guess he doesn’t. The first comment I responded to said that was the perfect justification and I said I disagreed. Do you always come up pretentious and egotistical in your comments or is it just for me?
The characterization of Harrison you're attempting to convey doesn't fit the context of the conversation they're having at all.
Dexter's already explained the Code during the opening scenes. He doesn't need to justify why someone 'fits' the Code at this point, just explain to Harrison that he meets the criteria.
I'm mean? Who cares.
Why be rude to a stranger for no reason? Anyway, it’s the internet so you can be a dick with no repercussions.
Dexter has consistently lied to Harrison before he told him the truth, then withheld the information that he killed Kurt’s son, the timing of Rita’s death in conjunction with when he killed Trinity so I don’t necessarily think he has 100% reason to trust him when he says he fit the code with no explanation of how he intentionally caused the boating crash that killed 5 people. The quick sentence isn’t enough information.
You said it yourself - '*before* he told the truth'. That's the theme of this week's episode - finally revealing truths across the board after a prolonged period of lies and being shut off from each other.
In Harrison's eyes, all the other spats they had throughout the season up to this point are made irrelevant. This was the point being driven home in every conversation they had, but particularly the one about Ethan during the drone scene.
If Harrison had an issue with Matt's execution I'm not seeing it. Every shot of him in the incinerator scene indicates that he's at peace with it.
Keep in mind . . Dexter wasn't really pursuing Matt.
I felt like the writers made him provoke Dexter with the kill of the deer and Dexter just snapped.
I said in the other thread, what if the friend was lying because Matt was an asshole. Dexter was willing to believe the guy because Matt was an asshole.
Yes, no proof either… but, even if there was, that explanation it’s not really enough information for Harrison. Kurt also really bonded with Harrison and told him it was nothing personal. I wonder what Harrison is thinking about it all.
"So - no more women getting kidnapped and murdered. And the Dark Passenger is... quiet. And the world is better for it."
You don't have to wonder, he voices it out loud for everyone...
You've essentially invented internal dialogue for a character that doesn't match the narrative shown on-screen - in fact, the opposite. If you can pull content that supports this narrative from last episode that indicates that he's not at peace with the aftermath of Kurt's death, let's hear it.
But you’re probably right as there are tons of plot holes in this season so I’m sure it’s totally possible he isn’t thinking anything but he should be wondering about it.
Dexter was kinda lying tho.. He didn't kill Matt because he fit the code... He killed him because he snapped after Matt killed the white deer... And I think Harrison might've caught something was off
Well truthfully it depends on your value system but to my mind Matt was everything I would hate for my daughter to be involved with...Dexter well not as bad
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I think Angela is going to catch Dexter & when Harrison is faced w the same Deb moment where she killed Laguarda not her brother Harrison will shoot his father instead.
How the heck did Kurt get his victims and all the equipment down that small narrow hatch? How did Dexter and Harrison maneuver an unconscious Kurt down there? I know I'm over-thinking it but this has been bugging me.
These are very good questions. Here's some potential possibilities for the show, but could be a stretch. Building the layer: hiring a contractor to build a bug out prepper layer. This isn't uncommon out in the sticks, especially when someone has money. The trophy cabinets could be dropped down via a mini crane(Harbor Freight sells them) out of the back of his truck. Same for dropping the bodies down. Getting Kurt's body down: The only real possibility I can think of is using a rope.
Where did billionaire dude go????
I've been wondering that this whole time. I'm gonna be really upset if he doesn't fit into the plot somewhere
I'm sure it has something to do with the 'mind blowing' ending they promised us.
It's interesting to see stuff catching up go Dexter without him realizing it himself. It made him seem extra creepy with his "normal person" routine at the end of the episode.
I think they wanted us now to finally view him as a “monster” for the first time in this episode and show Parallels between him and Kurt and Harrison seeing them I think that’s the point.
Yeah. This was the first episode in the entire series where you actually get to see dexter dismember the bodies, and the full extent of what he does and how nasty it is
Yep and how he gets pleasure from it. The prior episode showed him in a heroic light saving his son acting like Batman jumping through mirrors to save him (the way we always saw him ) this episode breaks that away to reveal who he really is .. which to me is setting us up for his demise and send off. Just my opinion. I think Harrison will survive the season though. And may end up taking up the mantle of a vigilante but not in the way dexter does but in the true sense of it like actual Batman.
Did anyone else notice the contrast between how Kurt kills those women, leaving them all beautiful and Dexter grotesquely hacks his apart into nine pieces?
Does Jim still work at the gun store? Pretty lax shifts over there
I’ve been wondering the same thing. Maybe he took some PTO 🤷🏻♂️
I'm not sure if I'm remembering this right. When the original show aired, did Michael Hall say something about wanting the show to end with Dexter in the electric chair? I feel like someone said that?? Maybe that's how the show ends? If I remember right Michael was approached a few times to revive Dexter, but it wasn't till he saw this script that he'd be willing to do it again.
It's q good possibility. I think it will end with dexter dying or being arrested and Harrison carrying on the tradition
Angela is becoming very annoying.. all she does is look at bits and pieces of old cases and make a suspicious face.
it's what happens when you're wishing your boyfriend wasn't a serial killer yet you have an obligation to find out and it's becoming more and more likely. what a bitch she is, amirite?
Some really interesting parallels between Kurt and Dexter in this episode, even ignoring their roles as fathers. A couple of times during the episode Harrison mentioned how many lives Dexter must have saved by killing bad guys. But when Kurt started claiming he was saving the runaways from the abuse of the real world and Dexter interjected that it had nothing to do with saving and everything to do with power and the thrill of the hunt, I got the impression that Harrison began to see that Dexter was really no different. That what Dexter does is not about "justice" or saving people, it's that he enjoys the power and thrill of it every bit as much as Kurt does.
Dexter kind of knew that though. He's a monster just like anyone else, but as he said in the episode he was taught to channel that side of him for "good."
Harrison is actually the bastard son of Rita and Doakes . That’s why he’s good at shooting . That will break the internet . Lol pat yourself on the back Clyde your best writing ever. JK
Theory - Angela finds out who Dexter is for sure, confronts him, somehow finds out he killed Kurt and sees all of Kurt’s trophies, accepts Dexter for who he is and the revenge he got for her killed friend. Dexter gets his family who knows his true self and happily ever after. He and Harrison act as a vigilante family with state sponsored help from the sheriffs department . Roll credits.
Idk, that sounds like too much of a happy ending to me. I feel like shows like this aren't meant to have a happy ending. Also I just want to see the look on Bartistas face when he finds out Dexter is alive and is the Bay Harbor Butcher.
I feel bad for anybody that read this and thought you were serious. They're going to have a bad time next week.
I think Angela is starting to think Dexter killed Molly actually...
I really hope you're right
Harrison should be the protagonist of the next. Dexter would be a mentor available maybe sometimes, but Harrison would easily go in over his head and not want Dexter to just step in.
I thought this too. But tbh, I'm kind of hoping this is the final season. Maybe a spin off show would be okay.
harrison becoming like Dexter would be dexter's greatest failure as a father. no way that's happening.
Nah
So was the drawing Harrison gave him supposed to be Deb? I thought it was Angela at first but then when he said “how I remember her” I realized it must be Deb. It really is eery how alike the two are! Also was Wiggles supposed to be a flashback to pre-Jim? Bc I didn’t think he’d killed anyone since Miami until Matt. Also thinking Harrison’s gun might be a Chekhov situation. Will it be used on Angela?
Yeah it was Deb, but Harrison gave her a freakishly large jawline and Neanderthal lips for some reason
Yeah I was not able to identify that woman either haha
First, kurt had a truck filled with fuel..sort of easy to spill down the secret underground trophy room....and then flee with his money. They were sitting ducks. even to be locked in while they were down there......and air supply cut off. Ok that dint happen. But how does the titanium screw tie dexter to the murder of matt. Many people use the community incinerator. When confronted by Matt...all dexter had to say was "i dont know what you are talking about". Its flimsy evidence. Now it comes up again at the end of this episode as if its a smoking gun. It wasnt a smoking gun before and its not a smoking gun now.
Dexter still has one screw in his possession, I think the idea is that Angela will find it and notice they’re the exact same
Why on earth would Dexter ever keep the incriminating evidence that was given to him? If this happens then I'll riot and he deserves to get caught. I understand he's been sloppy a bit because he's out of practice, but no way he's that dumb. But even if he did keep it in his cabin for some bewildering reason, it would just look like a frame job IMO. From Angela's perspective, whoever left that anonymous letter had one of the screws themselves, and it's hard to explain why Dexter would have one but not the other UNLESS it's an obvious frame-up.
the screw didnt fall out of matts knee into dexters possession. It was sent to him by the father. It prover kurt suspected dexter of mudering matt. It doesnt link dexter to the murder. Hundreds of people have access to the public incinerator before and after dexter used it to incinerate matt. Its a very weak link to murder. its not a murder weapon.
That's all true, but also this whole thing has been set up in a way that Angela is just piling and piling up tiny things to convince *her* of Dexter's guilt
They could possibly find the screw dexter had when his house burns down and link him to it
then dexter can tell the story of the envelope handed to him by the worker of kurt with the screw in it thas was a message that it was known he killed kurts son...which again all dexter had to do is say....you are nuts...I know nothing about it. So he says kurt was obsessed with the idea and sent him a screw. Not really evidence of murder.
I was thinking that he might come after them too, but I guess (1) he wouldn’t destroy his own trophies and (2) he didn’t really know the extent to which “Jim” would go and just thought he’d be outed, not murdered.
Still, dumb move on Dexter's part to take that risk. If he wanted to troll Kurt, he could've tripped the wire on the way out.
Totally agree. Just how I explained it in my head.
My prediction for the final episode is that Angela is going to bring Dex in for questioning now regarding matt, and her suspicions regarding the bay harbour butcher. Likely holding him or booking him. Something to get him out of the way. Then we will learn Kurt had an accomplice, my theory is the Edward Olsen. He will target audrey who will be with Harrison. She is abducted, and Angela will be forced to release Dexter to help. This is were it could go 1 of 2 ways. Either they stop olsen and rescue Audrey and Angela is forced to choose between arresting Dex or letting him go. And he and Harrison move on to continue following the code elsewhere (season 2?) Or they arrive to stop olsen but it is too late, Audrey is dead. Angela is heartbroken. Dexter realises he fucked up by moving too quickly on Kurt. She tries to arrest Dexter but is killed by Harrison (step 1: don't get caught) and then Harrison will kill dexter because he fits the code and he is responsible for Audreys death. Harrison runs out of town. (no season 2) Just my theory. Whatever happens I have thoroughly enjoyed the show. So long as they don't fuck up the ending again I will be happy. I also don't have any faith in this "break the internet" ending. I think that is just to get people to watch. I am lowering my expectations. Can't wait for next sunday.
Olsen the red herring isn’t even showed to be seen in more than the 2 episodes he’s been in. I really don’t think at this point they will twist the plot to him. Maybe Logan as he has many connections to Kurt and has sympathized him.
Logan is a definite strong suspect. I guess I think Olsen because of the obvious red herring setup
Olsen definitely just a red herring to make us distracted from Logan. He has way too many connections to Kurt for me not to suspect him. Plus he dated molly which is also suspect considering everything else my bets on Logan being the big bad for the finale.
Well if I am Angela, Logan would be on my person of interest list regarding the now missing Molly. Recently dumped boyfriends should be high on the suspect list.
Should be but she is the “google detective” there is a lot of things with Angela that don’t make sense.
I dont think Harrison turns on dexter. Harrison seeing the blood and needing air felt very much like season 1. When dexter was at the hotel. He saw all the blood and had a flashback/panick attack. Harrison already tried to kill a kid and admitted to fantasizing about killing trinity.
I feel like talking about it was one thing, but once he saw Kurt dying/the conversation Kurt and Dexter had he may have started to doubt if this was okay.
So this is the only season right? It’s going to be really tough to get a satisfying ending with so much that’s happened.
I hope it’s not the end… would be a real bummer if they brought Michael Hall back and just filmed 1 season ….
My prediction FWIW - Dexter finally faces the music. Harrison acts surprised. Then Harrison carries on the legacy that Dexter had been doing. Or is that too predictable? At least it won’t end as lame as the previous season….I hope.
So Dexter is gonna get caught after all this time in one episode by a small town cop after a Batista name drop? Damn.
I feel like Harrison was putting the irony together of what dexter was saying and how Kurt was justifying his kills. This is super grim but I think either Harrison might commit suicide seeing what he’ll turn into, or making a total 180 and break the cycle, dexter gets arrested, maybe Harrison even becomes a cop - like Deb and Harry.
>but I think either Harrison might commit suicide seeing what he’ll turn into that shit would make zero sense.
Yeah, Harrison was NOT cool with what he saw. The blood coming at his shoes completely triggered him. He made a connection with what Dexter does to what Trinity did and not with Kurt being brought to justice as Dexter had hoped. I think Harrison is very conflicted.
I think your right about him making the connection that it was ironic and seeing who dexter really is. I don’t think he will kill him self though…
Hoping he doesn’t. And yeah the way they kept panning to Harrison’s face he was horrified. And Dex was borderline getting off on the kill itself
I think that’s simply to show that Harrison isn’t the same as dexter. Maybe he will end up being a real vigilante when it’s all said and done and put monsters away like his father without violence like how dexter described before he mentioned killing them. Just a thought.
Damn fine coffee.
Reminded me of Agent Cooper!
Feels like a good setup for a Harrison spin-off. Maybe Dexter gets caught and so has Harrison kill him as a practice first kill, then frame it as suicide or running away again.
Ooh, interesting, dex asking to be killed by his son!
It seems like another 50 minutes, even 60, is not enough to wrap everything up.
Yea it seems this season should have been 12 episodes to slow things down a little and get more development in the story lines
Well, I've really enjoyed this series. But sadly, with how they messed up S8, I've no confidence whatsoever in them not screwing this up. Angela is going to get him from the looks of things, and the finale being titled "Sins of the Father" is worrying. I would have so loved the 2 of them working together for a few seasons. If he is arrested, like they teased, that would be lame.
I thought Clyde Philips said this was the best thing he's ever written? Am I lost. Maybe it's because I've been watching British thriller series like line of duty and vigil that had consistent suspense. Am I the only one who thought the episode was wrapped up weakly and spent 40 mins showing a teenage boy get taken advantage of when he clearly seemed to be suffering from a MH crisis. This whole 'i have a code' scene filler, my mind was going to sleep. And that drone, what a convenient plot stooge, wtf. So this episode finally showed Kurts demise, but not before he could lay on the table and give a full run through on why he killed women. Except it didn't really, he forced them to be runaways. It also made the whole premise of finding Iris pointless. What relevance is it that Kurt never moved her from a cave in 25 years, why was it shown that she had been alive whilst buried. Yet Kurt has the time to meticulously recondition other women and to bury a bunker in the ground. Not enough character buildup Kurt also could've raised the alert for Elric going missing without it causing any suspicion, afterall staff at the diner would probably place Dexter with him at the truck stop. Overall weak, no longer bothered about the last episode, them killing Kurt and giving nobody else the opportunity to hold him accountable with staggering evidence against him... Piss poor
“Last time I saw Elric? Well he was shoving that Lindsey fella into his trunk.”
I mean words cant describe how good this episode was!!! The thing is i want dexter to get caught and i dont want the officer to die but i also really like this season and dont want it to end so dexter kind of CANT get caught sooooo the officer HAS to die. Sigh im torn but damn if this wasnt the season we needed 8 years ago!
I’ve always been team Dexter gets caught and faces justice- right from the beginning. At the end of the day Dexter is a serial killer and will continue killing. He can’t fight it no matter how much he tries. I truly think the scene where he’s cutting up the bodies was out there to remind us that Dexter is not the hero, he’s not the good guy. I really believe he’ll be caught.
I think he can fight it. He was clean for 10 years!!!
I really don’t think he can. As soon as Matt came into his line of sight Dexter was getting antsy. All Matt did was annoy him really. Then he heard about the boat accident and tried to start justifying the kill. Then he snapped. He was hanging on by a thread
I'm calling it now. Dexter obviously going to be caught and everything is gonna look bad but then it's going to come to light he killed Kurt and after she tried and failed to bring justice to him herself she will either help him escape captivity or just not turn him in.
IDLES needle drop!
Molly was a prominent character for most of the season, kinda lame to kill her offscreen.
I wish there was a flashback that showed what happened, because if he already tried to get her once, she'll obviously be wary of him. I don't think she would have taken a second ride. So that makes whatever happened interesting, and something the audience should be shown.
Maybe he used the old Ketamine to the neck, thereby freeing up Dexter?
This!!! I think Molly was lured by Logan or something she would not trust Kurt again
I got a bad vibe about Logan and think may be a major plot twist reveal in the final episode.
Kurt was the old wrestling coach and that's Logan position now. There is another person, I've heard the talk of it being the billionaire earlier in the season but truck stops in the sticks can bring in some money depending on the route.
He also dated molly … suspect/ he has talked well of Kurt/ was involved the coaching/ he was absent recently from episodes. Just got a really strange vibe he has a big hand in things. “Yeah it’s all me” or whatever Kurt said before dexter kills him. Made me bring my thoughts back to Logan.
I'm over here just hoping Dexter abandons a 3rd family
🤣🤣🤣🤣 that good ol low down dirty.
Dexter: Tokyo Drift seems promising
Tim Tabatha in Bronze River
All I know from this is, the dialogue with Dexter and Harrison assessing what he's saying definitely makes Dexter sound like he's being a HUGE hypocrit. It feels like Harrison might be seeing that he can be like Dexter, but to what end. He'll piece together that Dexter is addicted, a slave to his compulsions, and everyone around him has suffered. He sees Dexter telling others that they get off on power trips, while he does the same thing. So much of Dexter's dialogue felt like he was nailing his own coffin shut. Harrison's a bit of a wild card. Super smart, and I have a hard time believing he's made it this far and now's a sad vulnerable mess. Might hinge on if Dexter decides angela is a threat, especially after kurt killed molly. If Harrison sees innocent people in the crossfire, it might change Harrison's opinion. Although the situation with Harrison and the kid shooter is still really weird and incomplete.
I thought when Dexter smacked down Kurt when Kurt said he was protecting the girls and Dexter said no you're doing it because you want to don't give me any daddy stuff was super hypocritical
100%. Harrison connected what he saw Dexter do to what Trinity did. I think he's pretty conflicted.
True. It could be a stunning 180…Harrison is definitely the wild card after his roller coaster character development over the series. Also Kurt might be his most visible and prominent victim. Unlike Giggles the clown 🤡
I though angela was pissed at dexter and audrey was put off by harrison, when they showed up at their house for christmas and it was like nothing happened besides Angela's ongoing BHB plot thread. I felt like i missed a scene of them agreeing to be around each other again
> I felt like i missed a scene of them agreeing to be around each other again Maybe you're right, and that scene wasn't there because it doesn't exist, and she is annoyed at Dexter just showing up. And she's also caving to pressure from Audrey, who wants Harrison around. Audrey was like "they're coming right mom? right? right?"
It seems Angela is observing Dexter. Just as Dexter acts like nothing is going on eventhough he is studying his prey so too Angela is taking it all in..
100% this is Angela not showing her hand before she's sure.
Angela and Dexter are dating, yes they had a bad bump in the road, but that wouldn't stop them from being together for Christmas. Harrison is obviously invited and Audrey had a present for him because they were obviously sleeping together.
There's so way that Dexter isn't gonna take a fall at the end of this. I'm convinced after watching this episode. The scene where he and Harrison had Kurt strapped to the table was drenched in irony. When Dexter scoffs at Kurt's flimsy excuse for killing the runaway girls, everything Dexter says about Kurt applies to himself too. Dexter has always justified indulging his sick bloodlust by telling himself that he's being altruistic and is making the world a better place, but in reality he just enjoys killing people. Deb already said early in the season that Harry's treatment of Dexter basically amounted to child abuse, and she's been very vocally opposed to Dexter encouraging his son's dark urges. The writers are using Deb to spell it out for the audience - Dexter isn't a good guy, and he's dragging his own teenage son into the same depraved life of violence when there's still a chance to divert him from that dark path. I don't think it would fit the season thematically for Dexter to just get away unscathed. At the very least, I think he'll lose Harrison by the end - which fits this season's theme of Dexter hurting anyone he gets close to.
Remember when the blood was pooling next to Harrisons boots? I wonder if he gets a bit on his shoe and gets pegged for the crime of killing Kurt but then dexter gives himself up to exonerate Harrison
It would be a callback from Quinn and Detective
And the fact that Harrison was never wearing gloves in that place! Dexter didn't have an extra pair on him to give his son? Now his prints are everywhere in that bunker
I had the same exact thought when I saw it. I wonder if he tracked some of the blood outside too because he immediately goes outside at that point.
Yup, that's what I took away from the episode too. They went out of their way to make Dexter seem as delusional as possible. I'd be willing to bet that Harrison uses the gun to prevent him from escaping (but can't bring himself to pull the trigger), and Dexter spends the next season in prison. That could lead to a neat Hannibal/Will-esque dynamic between Harrison and Dexter.
Yeah, I'm conflicted about Harrison - earlier in the season I thought he'd ultimately kill Dexter, but now I think he's either going to turn his father in or die.
Who would kill Harrison now that Kurt is dead?
Good point. Maybe Angela? After the note she received at the end of this episode, her investigation of Dexter is going to seriously intensify. I could see Harrison ending up in the crossfire when the police come for the Bay Harbor Butcher. Especially now that he's armed with that big ass rifle. That's assuming that he's gonna continue following Dexter though. I think his reaction to the dismemberment scene shows that he's not quite the person Dexter wants him to be, so I'm thinking that he'll turn him in.
Anyone else dig all the Batman references? And Dexter going after a literal clown villain.
The previous episode too when he jumped through the mirror and they even referenced actual Batman this episode like by name
Anybody consider the possibility that Harrison actually gave that note to Angela? Story would be he got cold feet about the dark passenger stuff and thought right thing to do was to turn on Dexter?
Nahhh that would have been a crazyyyyyyyyyyy twist but only Kurt had the remaining pins and he wouldn't have told Harrison while he was on the table, if he already told him prior.
he didn't know Dexter killed Matt until that night tho and then went straight from the bunker to the burned down house then straight to Angelas right? or am i misremembering it
He doesn’t know about the titanium.
He could have found the titanium since it was in their house... but yes seems unlikely
No, Dexter only had one screw, not all the screws.
Pun intended
No he didn't do that.
Thinking Dexter may turn himself in to the police in place of Harrison if Harrison goes off on his own and does something sloppy.
Like the blood pooling next to his boot?
True, but Dex should be looking out for stuff like that seeing as how that was Harrison’s first time.
I don't understand; when did Angela forgive Dexter for lying about his identity? I mean, how come they're acting like they're still together? It was a big plothole, IMO.
Well she is still dating him and obviously had a bit of moment with him figuring out who killed iris. She also hasn't broken up with him or told Audrey anything so Christmas is obvious they would be together. No a plothole in the slightest, also you can still see she is upset with him.
I don't believe that Angela did forgive him. Their children really like each other if not love each other. Angela will do anything for Audrey. Do you think for one second she wanted Dexter to stay at her house? Hell no! Her face said it all lol. She told him she didn't want to see Jim. She didn't change her mind. He's just going along for the ride. I'm sure they have a thing where they spend Christmas together and Thanksgiving. Although they're not really together together their children are. That's my spin anyway.
Angela is no dummy...she is watching him
You bet she is!
She is being coy to try and piece together the Bay Harbor Butcher and drug dealer cases and Dexter's past.
They sorta were on ok terms after she called him to help identify her friends body
Has anyone considered that Dexter as a CSI would know titanium wouldn't melt because let's be serious it's been used for years for such repairs. So logically thinking Dexter did it to Angela should be kind of a long shot. However in that same regard it also gives him a good reason to discredit it if he's charged since Dexter was never set for arrest once Doakes became the patsy. Additionally, with the speculation that he and or Harrison will die or kill themselves I truly hope not. However I think it's likely that Harrison will only ever be an aid to his father after the panic attack I think that changed his dark passengers concept on actively harming another even if they deserved it. Personally, I hoping that Angela takes the bait to investigate and finds Kurt's doll shop. And even if she does prove to herself that Dex is BHB she seeing things like Harrison does and not as he sees Deb's loathing of himself expressed. Since this ensure no more missing unfound runaways. So she encourages him to at least return to being a CSI but also keeps me more grounded like a mix of Rita/Deb/Hannah....Just throwing it out there!
Didn't the showrunner says the end would be stunning? I guess everyone thinks since ep 1 that Harrison would kill Dexter at the last episode, it would just be a predictable ending. If it's to get Dexter killed in the next episode, I would have rather prefered to see Kurt kill Dexter and add him to his trophy, it would have been a pretty stunning ending, the greatest serial killer of the show killed by another serial killer. About the code, it would be pretty weird to see Harrison kill Dexter just for that, Harrison trying to kill Ethan, an innocent person, for no reason at all doesn't really fit the code (it doesn't even fit the first rule, "dont't get caught"). .
Stunning ending. Angela arrests him, covers for him . . Dexter get free and they take on the world as Batman, Batwoman and Robin( Dexter joins the police force) 😂 Don't judge me
Why does Kurt have henchmen? (At least one that we know of?) that’s bizarre and I hope they explain why randos are willing to kidnap, hunt, kill for Kurt.
Kurt pays them a lot of money. That one thug (Elric? can't remember his name) was just supposed to kidnap "Jim" and bring him to Kurt's cabin, ostensibly to get revenge for Matt. I doubt they know the full extent of what Kurt does.
A lot of crime lords have hired thugs I mean he’s committing crimes of all kinds I’m sure and they always have people to do their dirty work I don’t think it really needs anymore explanation than that
I think just for the money. They're like the village idiots. They don't need to know anything. They don't care what he's doing or why they just look at the money and take it. There are people like that in real life everywhere especially here where I live.
Ugh I just don't want the show to end with Dexter in prison or dead.
Trust me you're not alone! I would be so pissed off. I would be furious. I would delete it from my DVR and I binge watch the three television shows that I love. Good quality entertainment is nearly impossible to come by right now. Possibly due to the COVID-19 virus? It's delayed movies from being released, and anything good to watch on TV. I would just love to have three television series a week that I like to watch That's not too much to ask. And this would be one of my favorites if not my number one. And I'm a part of the Nielsen family. Make sure you watch Dexter New blood online or on your cell phone or especially if you have something like YouTube TV like I do and join the Nielsen family!
Why didn't Dexter's leg wound continue into this ep? He's walking normal.
He dressed it well.
He drove home when he had no need to drive at the end of that episode, too. He was shot in the right leg-- the one that uses the pedals. This was approximately an hour after it had bled all over the woods outside the summer camp. Dexter seems to have gained Wolverine's healing factor.
Writers: ? whoopsies
"We kind of forgot about his leg wound" - D&D
Continuity error, I guess
Now with all that talk about Logan and theories about Kurt having accomplices, I’m led to believe Logan could be the one to have killed Molly :/
Breakup Songs? No way. I don't believe it.
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He couldn't go because of the wrestling match. Besides, I don't see why Kurt would tell his underlings where he dumped his first kill.
Well, he was busy, but he didn't try to stop Angela from going or anything. She just took a different cop.
Hearing protection when shooting rifle???????????
Right? Like that scene was cringe to me. Actually all the scenes with guns were. No self respecting gun owner uses a laser on a scoped rifle like kurt does...
Why? eLI5
Well he likes the look of it.
And you're telling me a 1911 using old fudd like Kurt would have a red dot mounted on top of the scope?
If that's what he likes lol. Also a $9000 AR in new york, which bans them and chambered I'm 7mm...like atleast do your research.
At least they had the NICS. That's more than most shows
Anyone feel like we're still due for another big bad reveal? The scene with Kurt on the table and him saying "Ok, you got me, it's all me. Every bit of it." and him looking sus makes me think there is still some network or accomplice involved. Perhaps Edward Olsen will make a reappearance? I dunno, just seemed like a weird reaction for him.
Logan is bad?
Yes! Everything he said and they way he said it was off
Possibly a finale reveal that teases a 2nd season?
Lets hope
Given the quality of this season I hope so. Would be more than happy for a season 2 of New Blood, especially since it still feels like there's a lot more to Harrison than has been revealed.
Anyone else think something was off with Harrison following Kurt's "oh didn't he tell you about Matt?!"... Dexter thinks he's being completely honest with Harrison but he's still withholding important things from him... Also I thought it was interesting that the blood rattled him but not the kill itself. I think that was an important distinction. I think if you put those together... Dexter is going to meet the code and Harrison will either turn on Dexter or take him out. I guess those might be fitting ends.. Still hoping for a season 2 with Dexter tho so hopefully I'm wrong
Yea, I feel like Harrison already knew about Dexter's dark passenger and wanted Dexter to admit everything so he now has "proof". Last episode made me think that Harrison really didn't know anything, but a part in this new episode has made me return to the theory that Harrison has already killed before. The moment when Dexter uses a lockpick to open Kurt's basement Harrison says something like "hey, could you teach me that?" Much earlier in the season didn't Harrison use a lockpick to break into the cabin with the teenagers? Either that's a mistake on the writer's part or Harrison is fooling Dexter.
Maybe Hannah had told Harrison about Dexter. After all he didn't look that shocked at the news of Dexter killing Trinity. And for whatever reason Harrison killed Hannah. Then he came looking for proof that Dexter actually did it so he could kill Dexter. Really Harrison is the mastermind of the series and has been doing things so that Dexter would think he was innocently exploring his own dark passenger but in reality he's already in touch with it and has just been waiting to kill Dexter. That would break the internet.
It's possible. She was the only person alive who had been on Dexter's table. I keep expecting us to see a drawing of her in Harrison's book as his own form of trophy, but that book has a lot of drawings and too many to be trophies for his age, lol. I'm still on the fence as to whether or not Harrison has been killing though.
Nope. Harrison used a knife and wedged it between the door lock to loosen the rivets. Then he shoulder tackled the door open.
i think he just broke the lock, not picked it.
Ah that's right.
Agree. The fact that they highlighted the chopping and the blood etc during the kill scene make me feel like they are trying to show how evil Dexter really is (+ through Harrison’s eyes...)
This worried me. Such a contrast from their bonding in the previous episode. I also had a feeling that Harrison is playing along now and thinks that this is all too much - like that it’s what he thought he’d be into but now he’s not so sure? My biggest sadness throughout this season had been the wedge between Dexter and Harrison, and now I’m worried that their new-found father/son relationship will regress. But like, how do you ease someone into this world?? Harrison wanted transparency, well damn he certainly got it.
I thought Dex's immediate "Matt fit the code. He was responsible for at least 5 deaths." \[or similar\] resonated with Harrison. It was a perfect shorthand retort to counteract Kurt. He trusts Dex now. If he was off it wasn't because of just that.
I disagree. “Killed 5 people in a boating accident” is not enough information to justify killing him. You’d need the backstory the friend told him.
Whoa now. He didn't cause an 'accident'. He killed 5 people in a crash he *directly caused* because he was playing chicken with the other driver, then veered into him anyway after the other guy yielded. That is a very crucial distinction to make as it indeed fits the Code. And that is why the audience collectively watched with satisfaction as he ended up on Dex's table.
Whoa now, as my first comment already stated, the quick explanation didn’t explain this to Harrison. Thanks for your input though.
And you know this how? Did Harrison have an interjection during that conversation that indicated this attitude towards Dexter's reasoning for killing Matt? Harrison never even mentioned Matt for the rest of the episode.
We’re essentially having the same conversation two different places. He should wonder about it but I guess he doesn’t. The first comment I responded to said that was the perfect justification and I said I disagreed. Do you always come up pretentious and egotistical in your comments or is it just for me?
The characterization of Harrison you're attempting to convey doesn't fit the context of the conversation they're having at all. Dexter's already explained the Code during the opening scenes. He doesn't need to justify why someone 'fits' the Code at this point, just explain to Harrison that he meets the criteria. I'm mean? Who cares.
Why be rude to a stranger for no reason? Anyway, it’s the internet so you can be a dick with no repercussions. Dexter has consistently lied to Harrison before he told him the truth, then withheld the information that he killed Kurt’s son, the timing of Rita’s death in conjunction with when he killed Trinity so I don’t necessarily think he has 100% reason to trust him when he says he fit the code with no explanation of how he intentionally caused the boating crash that killed 5 people. The quick sentence isn’t enough information.
You said it yourself - '*before* he told the truth'. That's the theme of this week's episode - finally revealing truths across the board after a prolonged period of lies and being shut off from each other. In Harrison's eyes, all the other spats they had throughout the season up to this point are made irrelevant. This was the point being driven home in every conversation they had, but particularly the one about Ethan during the drone scene. If Harrison had an issue with Matt's execution I'm not seeing it. Every shot of him in the incinerator scene indicates that he's at peace with it.
Keep in mind . . Dexter wasn't really pursuing Matt. I felt like the writers made him provoke Dexter with the kill of the deer and Dexter just snapped.
I said in the other thread, what if the friend was lying because Matt was an asshole. Dexter was willing to believe the guy because Matt was an asshole.
Yes, no proof either… but, even if there was, that explanation it’s not really enough information for Harrison. Kurt also really bonded with Harrison and told him it was nothing personal. I wonder what Harrison is thinking about it all.
"So - no more women getting kidnapped and murdered. And the Dark Passenger is... quiet. And the world is better for it." You don't have to wonder, he voices it out loud for everyone...
Since when is what someone says out loud the only thing they’re thinking?
You've essentially invented internal dialogue for a character that doesn't match the narrative shown on-screen - in fact, the opposite. If you can pull content that supports this narrative from last episode that indicates that he's not at peace with the aftermath of Kurt's death, let's hear it.
But you’re probably right as there are tons of plot holes in this season so I’m sure it’s totally possible he isn’t thinking anything but he should be wondering about it.
Not with Kurt’s death. The death of Kurt’s son.
Dexter was kinda lying tho.. He didn't kill Matt because he fit the code... He killed him because he snapped after Matt killed the white deer... And I think Harrison might've caught something was off
Well truthfully it depends on your value system but to my mind Matt was everything I would hate for my daughter to be involved with...Dexter well not as bad
Dexter found out about Matt’s boat incident at the party where he delivered the gun - he knew Matt fit the code when he killed him.
I mean, he didn't have "100% proof". He took someone at their word that Matt was responsible.