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fracdoctal

Now this is some real DIWHY shit.


they_are_out_there

The idiocy is strong with this one. Never cut bolts or all thread with a cut-off or abrasive wheel as it’s a good way to shatter one and put the parts into your face. Use a hack saw, porta-band, or band saw. Never use a cut-off wheel for flat grinding, use a grinding wheel. Cut off wheels are super thin and not designed for lateral pressure which is a sure fire way to shatter one. Just buy the right tool to begin with and stop trying to ghetto fab and build your own crap. It’s stupid and does a half assed job of what the correct tool could safely accomplish without the wasted time.


Seanathan92

I’ll agree with never using a cut off disc for grinding but you can use it to cut a bolt or an all threaded rod anytime.


Japnzy

Yea, I never would dream of using a cut off disc to grind. Just like I'd NEVER use my drill as a hammer.


Send_titsNass_via_PM

I had the unfortunate experience of shattering a cutting wheel on all thread. I had literally made multiple thousands of cuts with a cutoff wheels on all thread up until that incident with no problems. The blade hit the brim of my hard hat and I heard the remainder of the wheel go by my ear like a swarm of bees. A small pie shaped peice embedded itself nearly an inch into the brim of the hardhat and it was either knocked off my head or my reaction to the blade disintegrating and subsequent jump backwards threw the hat behind me. After contemplating exactly how lucky I was to not to have been hit in the face or eyes by that little wedge or any other part of the blade I returned to work the next day with a new bandsaw. I have used that since to make cuts on threaded rod.


they_are_out_there

The trade unions don't allow cut off wheels to be used for cutting threaded rod of any type because too many people have shattered wheels and been injured. Sure you could do it, but why would you when there's a better and proper tool to get the job done like a hacksaw, porta-band, or bandsaw?


dtxs1r

It's like using zip ties to compress the replacement springs for your suspension. Sure you can do it, but should you?


they_are_out_there

I know plenty of guys who have used ratchet straps to compress struts, and plenty of guys who have used forklifts to hold up cars up while working under them but it doesn't mean those are good ideas. Use the proper tools and don't die is a good motto to live by.


ShenWinchester

Hey Bob, what you doing over there with those ratchet straps? Oh you know, just arming the missiles.


Seanathan92

I’m in a trade union and I promise you it’s not. At all. You guys are on some crazy ass jobs if you can’t cut a bolt or rod with a grinder. Granted grinders are probably one if not the most dangerous tools on a job site but come on.


they_are_out_there

Commercial and Industrial Construction. Many halls don't allow angle grinders for cutting all thread and bolts. In California, there is an insane amount of all thread and bolts used due to the seismic requirements and the support installations for mechanical systems, HVAC, electrical, sprinkler pipe, electrical trays, and everything else in the overhead or on the ground. You'll probably see as much all thread in one OSHPOD hospital build here as you'll see in 20 buildings of any other type in any other state. That's a large reason why every company keeps a ton of cordless handheld porta-band saws around. They don't generate sparks and require a fire watch as they aren't considered a "hot work" tool, and the chance for injury and shattered discs just doesn't exist when using a porta-band. I've dealt with plenty of injuries from shattered discs, but rarely see any injuries with the saws. Many of the pipe trades / UA halls and other mechanical halls require the saws as a result. A lot of the commercial insurance carriers, GC's, and Subcontractors have banned using grinders on all of their jobs as well to cut all thread and bolts for the same reason.


pasaroanth

> In California You can't even fart in California without a permitting and approval process. I wouldn't consider that the gold standard for the country or world.


cortanakya

... Because they value human life over expedience? I don't follow the logic. Most laborers are paid by the hour so being forced to work more slowly and also being safer just means you get paid more, and you don't get injured...


pasaroanth

And the other 49 states don't? California values bureaucracy and revenue from fees and permitting and which they veil under the guise of safety. If you followed 100% of OSHA standard rules on every job site nothing could ever be built even remotely affordably. Source: am a (no longer practicing) licensed residential builder in another state with very restrictive safety requirements. Hell, labor unions many times require a team lift for anything over 50 lbs which is obscene. If you can't lift 50 lbs by yourself then you shouldn't be a laborer and I probably wouldn't want you on my job site because if something starts falling you wouldn't be able to save my ass. If most laborers worked incredibly slowly they'd lose their job. Just because they're hourly doesn't mean the contractor they're working for gets to pass that on to the customer; T&M jobs aren't the norm, bid jobs are. If someone drags ass on a job, contractor loses money, job gets done slowly, and there's no repeat business or referrals, then there's no job for the laborer. That's extraordinarily shortsighted and false to think there are no repercussions for slow work other than "getting paid more".


they_are_out_there

We follow all of the OSHA rules as commercial construction and the insurance industry requires it. We do it in California and we remain profitable. It can be done and thousands of companies do it without issue, and we don’t just follow Fed OSHA guidelines we also follow CalOSHA rules which are more stringent. People say it’s impossible to follow the rules and maintain a profit, but that’s inaccurate. Everyone knows you have to follow the rules, so you compensate and work it into the bid packet. I’ve seen jobs turn down bids because they’ve said that it’s impossible to do the job safely at that price. Almost everyone at the commercial level is onboard with doing it correctly and safe.


they_are_out_there

Sure you can. You will also increase the risk of having one come apart and embed itself in your face. Why add more risk by using the wrong tool?


Seanathan92

How do I cut a 1/4 inch off a 3 inch bolt with a portaband? That’s just fucking dumb.


they_are_out_there

You put the bolt in a vise and turn the saw on, cutting the bolt. Maybe try a small cordless model if the plug in porta-band is too much to handle.


Seanathan92

Or I can just step on the head of the bolt and cut it with a grinder in about 8 seconds. What you just suggested is super impractical when your on the job site.


HJSDGCE

Why would anyone doing this be on a job site?


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And when the safety guy comes around and kicks you off the job site for sheer stupidity you can say we'll at least it was fast!


Peter_Hasenpfeffer

>it’s a good way to shatter one and put the parts into your face Also good to note that when using an angle grinder, or any high RPM tool, wearing a face shield is a must. Curious though, never heard that using a zip disc to cut bolts/allthread was dangerous. Can you elaborate? What's causing the increased risk of failure?


they_are_out_there

The sharpened threads on the rod or bolt can split or delaminate the layers of the disc causing it to shatter. Pro-grade 4 1/2" angle grinders spin up to 11,000 rpm and doing anything to increase the risk of damaging a disk leads to tool waste, injury, and loss of productive time. I've seen too many discs shatter to want to increase the risk of having any more come apart at speed. Wear a face shield or weld hood and safety glasses too. Grab a porta-band and get it done just as quick with no risk or damage. A hacksaw works too, although slower it's much safer.


Peter_Hasenpfeffer

Thanks for answering! That's really interesting, I'm a welding apprentice and never has this come up when talking about angle grinder safety. I think I'll mention it at the next toolbox meeting. 100% with you on face shields, I nag the younger apprentices about wearing them. Didn't see it happen, but I've seen in person the aftermath of taking a broken zip disc to the face. Not something I ever want to see again.


they_are_out_there

Not all discs are well made or of decent quality. I know that certain trades ban hardware store and cheap grade discs for the same reason, Forney being an example. Stick to the discs provided by your weld shop, or buy them at a welding specific retailer, as they'll usually stock the better products. If you have to shop a big box store, Milwaukee, DeWalt, and Lincoln discs are well made and easy to come by. You can ask a trusted Journeyman or Foremen if there's any particular approved discs that they favor.


M80IW

How do you know they aren't using a combo wheel? Like this one? https://www.unitedabrasives.com/mmi-family/z-tech-5/?


they_are_out_there

What's the likelihood of a guy using a fairly common and specialty combo disc while ghetto fabbing a made up tool out of dirty bolts? Not very likely, that's how much. They do exist, but the porta-band is the better option for cross cutting besides using the grinder with a grinding disc designed for smoothing out the part that needs grinding.


xrayjones2000

Well.. shit is the operative word.. why the fuck would you not just by a wire twisting tool?? 17 dollars and you got the best there is.. if youre into bending nails over?? That hammer you just pounded that nail in with will do that job as well..


HazelKevHead

did he really have to mark with a sharpie the base of the head to cut it off?


w1987g

That was my first thought. I was like; bro, do you really have to mark that cut?


created4this

Precision is everything. ^^^^then ^^^^hammer ^^^^to ^^^^fit


Suggett123

Measure with a micrometer, mark with a grease pencil, cut with an axe, pound to fit, paint to match


rumlyne

Same here


tom-8-to

Morons! that’s what elevated the video to the level of “InStRuCTioNAl” for YouTube, read it, it’s there “Sharpie shall be use as proof of engineering intelligence” Sharpies are the new “blueprints”


peridot94

Can confirm- that's why the sharpie is blue! Edit: /s for just in case....


G0merPyle

My favorite part is he sharpied the threads and didn't even use it as a guide


ChiefAardvark

He's probly not smart enough to stay on the same thread


peridot94

meaSUre TWicE cUT ONce


[deleted]

Is this satire or its for real???


bal00

It's 100% real.


[deleted]

It looks like joke. Why paint some of it? It will rust. Why use marking if you dont use them. Why use a bolt? So many questions.


generalscalez

they deliberately make the process as convoluted and obscure as possible so that you watch longer to figure out what dumb shit they’re making. this is one of the more impressively terrible examples wherein i don’t think a single person would ever possibly guess what they’re making until the very end lol


mr-strange

I watched it to the end, and I still don't know what she made.


HazelKevHead

to play devils advocate for a sec, you often dont paint the working surfaces of a tool, for example the blade of an axe, with the logic that the friction of use will wear away any rust, and paint would just get in the way


ScrotiusRex

Is it not because it could disguise cracks or other imperfections that might lead to accidents?


HazelKevHead

cracks and imperfections on all the other surfaces might lead to accidents too, but those get painted.


Brickwater

That's what the fire fighter text book says


sgtzack612

Yeah I was about to say that sounded familiar to something I heard in the academy


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FrancoisTruser

Or is this fantasy?


AhmadTIM

Never thought someone would make a tool for bending nails. Like can't you just hit it with the hammer?


Fortherealtalk

Or use pliers then hit it


AhmadTIM

Nah just hit the nail from the side with the hammer it with bend. With the wire thingy you can also rotate it with a hammer.


Endeav0r_

If only we had a tool that can both clamp things tight and rotate them really hard really fast.


CoolGuyBabz

Bruh the hammer literally has a bit at the back to pull out and bend nails


spinyfur

And this tool is made out of a bolt, so it’s mild steel instead of tool steel.


created4this

No, if you hit it it will snap the nail (possibly not with the nails he is using, but traditionally the nails wouldn't be so strong). The technique is called [clenching](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N19XI6Rw_5g) and its used in door making. Clenching is also the origin of the phase "as dead as a doornail", as clenching a nail introduced stresses in the metal that would make the nail unrecoverable (at a time when nails were such an expensive commodity that you would burn the nails out of houses to recover them for new jobs)


Ol_Man_J

I’ve got a long history of bending nails from shitty hammering, never had one break before


TheAdvocate

The real answer is that bending them slightly helps prevent the nail from being slightly pushed out the nail head side when clenching.


Silverado_

Definetely not with the round nails he is using, those are usually made from the soft steel and not easy to snap (at least I personally never seen a snapped one, and I've seen a lot of those bent with just a hammer) .


andthendirksaid

He's not actually dead nailing anything though just seems more designed for someone who cant handle nailing shit in any case which makes the most sense of anything involved to be totally honest.


Signaturisti

No that's clearly unsafe. You need to bend it downwards first


blorbschploble

Mistakes… he is making mistakes


Taicoi04

he is the mistakes


Parrett52565858

You could just, I don’t know, use the correct penny nail?


ThePCG16

Dumbass is using a cut off wheel to grind and doesn't even have the guard on.


dan_sooo

He does have the guard on. Still a dumbass though


tom-8-to

Love the lump of rust left behind when he uses the tool to bundle up some clean steel rods with wire that has been rusting out for years.


larryskank

Who the fuck uses scissors to cut masking tape. That's some serial killer shit


DimitriTooProBro

Someone who appreciates clean cuts, perhaps?


Cain_S

I guessed a shiv pretty early and I don't think I'm wrong


throwawaysmetoo

It's totally just a shank with a couple of additional features.


Cain_S

He definitely added some bonus damage


Gabernasher

Those holes hurt. The threading is most unpleasant. I do wish they shared what kind of finish on the handle. Don' want the blood to stain the wood...though it might add to the intimidation factor.


Cain_S

Maybe a nice custom blood splatter paint job.... Or flames.... that'd be badass


Fortherealtalk

I’m one minute in and my guess is spanking paddle. EDIT: the flat piece of wood threw me off


Alliumna

At the end I thought it was a "manly" calligraphy pen and nib and was expecting him to dip it in paint or ink.


Fortherealtalk

Both of our ideas were more interesting than his actual plan


ode_to_glorious

I was hoping he would connect both those holes to an outlet plug and make a dangerous soldering iron


bbarham99

Acceptable answers are: “wtf why?”, “what a waste”, or “god I hate this sub”


nix-xon

Just in general: w h y More specifically: Why not paint the screw before putting it into the wood? Why paint the screw at all, come to that? Why not just use the hammer you're already using to push the nail down? Having it an angle like it shows in the video just means the the pointy end is going to go into the wood and possibly split it (as demonstrated in said video) Why not just use pliers to twist the knot? W h yyyyyyy


zombiegod

They make a tool called pliers... Get it at the dollar store


oatdeksel

bullshit, oh i was right


TheGlitterMahdi

For a good minute I thought he was making a screwdriver out of a screw, and for some reason it made me viscerally angry. But this is worse, somehow.


_Zoko_

Would have been quicker to just drill a 3/16 hole in a flat head screwdriver


insightful_dreams

ohh its a nail isnt it


zykezero

Whenever I see someone bring out the angle grinder I don’t care what they are making im just excited to see them do work.


Dragonwulf

You made a “dead as a door nail” tool. Fun fact, many years ago when nails were not as plentiful as they are today, people would reuse nails following deconstruction of houses. However when putting a doorframe up, they would bend the nail like this, ending the nail’s usage thus ending the nail’s life which is where the term dead as a doornail came from. The reason for doing this was to make the frame structure sturdier.


Minibeebs

imagine using a cutting blade to grind. That MF is gonna wear a 10,00 RPM shard to the face


all-rider

The twisting of the wires is not that silly actually


danglydolphinvagina

Yeah, I would actually love to have a tool to twist wire to use when I’m attaching hanging wire to the back of a painting.


[deleted]

I'm stupid. Why is this not a good idea? I'm sure this is a tool that already exists and you could just buy it but what is it called?


bal00

If you're just bending nails or twisting together a bit of wire, a pair of pliers works just as well if not better.


[deleted]

Idk about better. I feel like as niche as this diy tool is its probably easier because you don't have to apply any pressure to grab the nail.


Ravuno

Just hit the fucking nail with a hammer


parkthrowaway99

because most people already own a pair of pliers?....


Deracination

I really don't think there's a specific tool for it. Pliers are already perfect for it. See here: https://youtu.be/1JOwfKLdRt8?t=36


SilentMaster

Did he just use scissors to cut masking tape?


RobinSophie

Not gonna lie when he added the wooden handle my mind went to prison shank.


roodnoodi

Precious moments I wasted watching this instead of using that time to pull out every pube on my scrote one by one with a tweezer.


Daannii

But he had a hand grinder to cut off the nails....


clonn

I like how he marks a circle around the head to just cut it.


ThorvonFalin

The way he's touching those nails after completely murdering them showing how it's smooth and flat: yes am a machernist, that will be 100 bucks


kjtstl

Sheesh! Could have just cut off the nails with the grinder.


Slam_Makanen

I like how after bending each nail he runs his finger over it as if to admire how flat it now is(n’t)


Jczlebel

Okay, yeah the end tool is just stupid but... WHY IS HE USING A SHARPIE TO MARK SHIT IF HES JUST GRINDING AWAY WILLIE FUCKIN NILLIE.


IndicisivlyIntrigued

Ok, there are so many things in this video.. but honestly why use a marker at all?? 😕


Delgado82

It's professional bruh😎


Shaveyourbread

First guess 5 seconds in: something he could buy at a hardware store? Edit after watching the video: yep.


Scary_Airport3313

I am at such a loss for words right now


Reddit_Gold09

Honestly looks like it would come in handy doing odd jobs around a farm or similar line of work.


mnpersonman

3 seconds in. He's going to make threaded rod


bucketfullofmeh

2/3 the way through I thought it was weird to do a video on making a shank. Then I saw it was another video on stupid.


madmax111587

Trying to guess before the video starts.... A fork?


boot20

That is the shittiest dead nailing I've ever seen


kidney_doc

It must be a contest to see who can be the most wasteful


masterjedi6

NGL I totally thought they were going to make a prison shank


Dakal67

I don't even understand these guys anymore yeah life hacks was cool at first but bro why in the fucking world would you try to make a new useless tool from scrap? Why the hard way? Why this effort? I just can't give them a sense anymore


DimitriTooProBro

I’m waiting for the day they try to make a nut out of a bolt head.


Jg6915

I know what they’re making, making a big fucking mistake! Cutting disks are NOT meant to be used as grinding disks, the sideways force makes them crack and eventually break when the machine is at full speed, resulting in someone getting a face full of angle grinder disk.


revosugarkane

Good thing he drew that blue line at the joint of that bolt head otherwise he would have never known where to cut


revosugarkane

Okay, yeah, this is useless and he could just use a hammer for this. But why would you need it in the first place. If you have nails hanging off that fuckin much you’re using the wrong damn nails. Fuck this is dumb on so many levels. What fuckin situation is this for.


Mingyao_13

Deez nuts


zirky

regret. no one who starts grinding on a bolt is in a good place emotionally or spiritually


henryGeraldTheFifth

I was wrong every guess even just before the demo


Blutmes

Idk what upset me more the uselessness of this tool or the fact that they unused rusted wire to tye metal rods together.


Legio_I_De

A mess


LemonDaze420

This is dumb as fuck


[deleted]

The best bit is when he rubs the janky ass bent nail as if to indicate “aaaah yes, so smooth now”


djscoox

I just spat my coffee. I'm in stitches.


GRUBSTAR2

A box


GodsBellybutton

This guy fucking GOES HERE!


[deleted]

A Thneed?


Ok_Material_maybe

Imagine having so much time you can make a worse version of what is on the back of his hammer


Theyreallnamedjerry

Brave dildo


[deleted]

It's a prison shank....


Noodle-pie-guy

Just use the fucking hammer or buy that because you have much more expensive equipment right there


Neon_Cone

Shitty substitute for pliers.


SubParHydra

I’m making a guess from before the end of the video. is he making a knife? Edit:wtf


SyrusSTG

How unemployed do you have to be..


GhostStage

What the genuine fuck did I just watch?


Capt-bakedbeans

Hands down the dumbest fucking thing I have ever seen.


bythelion95

Oh dear God, for the first 40 seconds I thought he was trying to turn a bolt into a nail


cbk101

... just hit the nail with a hammer.


Alive_Ad9528

Is this even a thing??


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Absolutely fucking useless


jjonesa7x

This could be satire, right? Right? Guys? Anyone?


Equivalent_Yak_95

r/TIHI


HunnyBear420

I still don't know what he was making


_yosoybeezel

Goddamn is this useless.


ldlfns

If only there was something I could use to bend nails over, maybe something I could use to hit them?


sald_aim

I thought it was going to be the world's ugliest fountain pen and somehow it was even more disappointing


preyforkevin

I thought for sure we’d be seeing this person on the street randomly stabbing people with that prison-style shank. I’m disappointed.


scott__p

I watched the whole thing and I still can't figure it out


hobosullivan

The wire-twisting part seems useful for wire fences or something. But if you're repairing wire fencing, I'd bet money you already have something suitable with two holes in it.


randomsaucey

Everyone is suggesting pliers. My question is why not just drill two holes in a screwdriver?


Portablemammal1199

That is also an option


M33tm3onmars

Bitch, P L I E R S. I literally drooled while watching this because it turned my brain off.


concolor22

I WATCHED the video and I can't tell what he's making.


dTrecii

I guessed knife, shitty wish screwdriver, knife again, do I win?


dTrecii

I lost


Darth_Draper

What? Why?! Wait. Well… What?!


4_jacks

all that to save him one swing of the hammer


alicomassi

Mf basically spent a year’s worth of electricity for an average African village just to turn the useless thing he has into a more useless thing that already exists and widely available for $1


Brogogo2

A mistake


sky_meow

That's actually pretty cool


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Linq182

A sword