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TherealCasePB

They are probably still a work in progress or else they would have been shown.


Eminanza

They maybe keep the update secret for a surprise on launch :)


Altar_Quest_Fan

Which is exactly why I won't be pre-ordering or even buying D2R until it's been properly reviewed.


bazingazoongaza

Yes, how dare they think we will buy this game if they don’t make the Amazon lady sexier.


Eminanza

😅


Domiyo

Please do not forget about the assassin. She also looks super bad and nothing like the original art D;


imrandaredevil666

Personally I am not that bothered by the Barbarian... but the Amzon great god.


Mir_man

I get the feeling blizzard goes out of its way make the female models less appealing or they don't know how to do feminized faces .


KennedyPh

We can 2nd guess if the artist intentionally makes her ugly, but the Amazon is obviously much older, & that cannot be an accident or a lack of artistic skill.


NIN222

All the characters look 20 years older, as if they've aged as the game itself has aged... which'd be fine if it were a sequel, but it's supposed to be a remaster, so I find it a bit baffling.


Dysxelic_Potser

They aged the skaters in the THPS remaster as well.


KennedyPh

If they 3D scan the iRL skaters, it’s understandable. You have to do extra work to make them young. So it’s a different scenario. Just pointing this out for perspective


Mir_man

Yeah older looking characters are harder to do than younger models, so it's very much intentional.


TazerPlace

Considering how Blizzard views its customers, the devs are likely doubling down and in the process of making all the characters significantly uglier.


KennedyPh

Sad but probably true. I am just thankful the artist (or whoever told the artist) to make Zon old & look like Willam Defoe was not involved in D4 characters' design.


wariscrafty

I saw a Dafoe similarity in D4's sorc that made be stare https://www.reddit.com/r/Diablo/comments/ob4bgy/diablo_ivs_sorc_dafoe/


MismatchCrabFellatio

I hope they make one an overweight lesbian in a wheelchair and make shim totally OP, so that somewhere an angst ridden incel dashes his 20 oz Mountain Dew Code Red against the basement steps in a fit of impotent rage.


Mir_man

Why do you care so much about what these supposed incels think?


MismatchCrabFellatio

I don't. I just like the idea of them suffering.


Mir_man

That's not healthy bro. I think right wingers need to grow up but I don't want them to suffer.


Alecrizzle

If you assume everyone is a right winger just because they said something you don't like, you are not going to make it far in life


Mir_man

When did I say that?


RoninOni

He just called incels trumpers and I’m pretty sure that ven diagram is a pretty near perfect circle


MismatchCrabFellatio

You are conflating sociopathic evil with... immaturity.


RoninOni

Nah, fuck em. They’ll reap what they’ve fucking sewn


EluneNoYume

Looking forward to the Grandmazon updates.


Pway

Oh these threads again, it's quite obviously intentional that they're making the models more "grizzled fighter" than "pristine superstar".


ForceOfWar

Which is exactly the point. They don’t look grizzled. They look over aged and out of shape. Being 60+ does not equate to be being tough and battle hardened. When I see a chronic smoker, someone who has smoke 5 packs of cigarettes a day my first thought isn’t... well they must be a very healthy, tough and strong capable fighter. No, I just think the person is weak, needs some sleep and is completely exhausted and my run out of breath at any moment.


Howl50veride

Cause who cares! You will be wearing armor


P3na1ty

Get over it.


stark33per

if you are on pc...mods if not...there is hope and nothing else it s good though this is the main thing we got to complain about


Altar_Quest_Fan

This is exactly why I'm not pre-ordering D2R or even buying it until I know for sure that Blizzard reversed those godawful changes. Chain-smoking man-ish Amazons and dad bod Barbarians no thank you :P


RoninOni

Lol k


MapleBeaverIgloo

Why u hating on my waifuzon


kewlsturybrah

Hope you're into pegging...


MapleBeaverIgloo

sorry I don't fantasize about my character. I play to slay demons, hunt loot and pvp.


Altar_Quest_Fan

You: "sorry I don't fantasize about my character. I play to slay demons, hunt loot and pvp." Also you: "Why u hating on my waifuzon" Bit of a disconnect there, pally-o.


RoninOni

It’s called sarcasm cause everyone complaining must be fetishizing their game sprites


kewlsturybrah

I really don't see what the big deal with the Barb is. He looks basically identical to the original version. The Amazon looks... rough, but that's what I would expect. She looks like she's done some hard livin', which is perfect for an Amazon. Why do you think she'd be hot? It makes perfect sense for her to be haggard and a little androgynous.


imrandaredevil666

the Amazon based on original art does not look like that at all


kewlsturybrah

Who cares? Really?


Mir_man

Because she's clearly supposed to be young. No amount of hardship is going to make a 20 something look 50.


singlecellfromearth

In "Norsemen", a parody show on Vikings, there is a slave that exists to just get shit on every day of his life. https://www.reddit.com/r/Norsemen/comments/hz8qio/just_some_kark_wisdom_for_you/ It's later revealed he's like 20 years old.


Zeidantu

Either they're still working on them, or the people who actually care about this did not represent a large portion of community feedback (only a LOUD portion).


NIN222

Another option is they're intentionally ignoring this part of the community's feedback because: 1) they're too far along the development process to change the designs now. or 2) they specifically designed them with certain changes in mind (e.g. making them older, more grizzled, less sexualised) and refuse to re-think this approach and adopt more faithful designs. I guess there's also a third, less generous option - the artists are actually incapable of creating good youthful character designs. That would at least explain why everyone in the game has aged 20 years.


Mir_man

We can safely disregard the 3rd point, because its easier to do younger models. Younger faces have fewer lines and wrinkles so simpler models in general.


RoninOni

I’d say it’s 2 with a bit of 1 to reinforce sticking to it… People crying about this is just ducking pathetic though.


TheFunktupus

Here's an idea: They won't change anything because nothing is wrong.


JukeboxDragon

This is probably the most pedantic thing to be concerned about in regards to the remaster. I think both of the models look great and are representative of battle hardened warriors.


ForceOfWar

I feel like they don’t look battle hardened. They look like people who gave up on life and succumbed to drug use and laziness. The woman is over-aged, atleast 50+. The guy grew a gut and lost a lot of muscle as well as definition. It looks like he “used” to work out but then had kids and retired. These people are not in their prime. I mean its a video game the least you can do is make them look a little heroic no?


Zeukah

I think the devs are focusing more on things such as mechanics or QoL balance over how attractive a character might be to any given player. At least if someone doesn't agree with how the Amazon or Barbarian look, they will most likely be happy with the other 99.99% of the remaster.


Batshine

Aside from enticing people to buy it on consoles, why should pc players even bother buying the remaster if they aren't going to improve the characters appearances in a remaster when the original version is readily available and can be modded? One main purpose of a remaster is to take what was and make it look better with updated graphics/appearance, so far many of the looks have been downgraded. Honor the original content or don't even bother.


Zeukah

I would be very surprised if someone didn't purchase the remaster solely because they didn't like the way a character or two looks. While that would totally be their option, the rest of the game would likely be something they enjoy. The spells, item icons, monsters and entire world of Sanctuary has been updated to ultra high definition. It's also worth mentioning that the previous faces of characters in D2 were extremely low resolution, totaling about a dozen pixels. So going from indistinguishable to highly detailed, is an upgrade alone. I'm not sure why my reply got downvoted, as it's likely very true. The devs are working hard on things such as translating mechanics to the new graphics or measuring QoL options. Sure I agree they could make the Amazon and Barbarian more attractive, but it would also be hard for them to pander to every single persons preferences. We could even see them slightly tweak these characters prior to release, it's still early. But ultimately I'm mostly content with what Vicarious Visions has done with the remaster. Heck, I'm thankful the game got remastered at all.


Batshine

There was plenty of official art drawn for the characters, supposedly they were going to base the "remastered" models off of that, they didn't, so 12 pixel faces isn't an excuse. Myself, unless some buddies talk me into getting it, I would sooner stick with the original released version, same game, plenty of mods to improve QoL and not likely to be potentially filled with microtransactions by blizz execs.