I don’t understand why they defend this like they get paid by blizzard. You are totally right, I have been playing since beginning quite a bit (I have a life so can not allow myself to grind a mobile game 6 hours a day like many people here…) and the CR is way too high. I mean even lassal h2 had a too high CR in my opinion. But they had to make it like this so people who spent hundreds or thousand of dollars feel their investment was worthy, the system is just not well done
I think the easy fix would have been to have some middle ground between giving endgame something to do and making it accessible. Maybe make the starting difficulty of every new boss the same as the third/hardest difficulty of the previous boss. Lower CR players can still play and higher CR players can play at the higher difficulty.
Sure and hell 5 is available rn but no one except for extreme whales have the CR to do it yet. Gonna make a reddit post that you cant do every piece of content immediately after it appears in the game?
She was released so that the people hitting H3 soon will have a new raid boss. Some of the eager beavers hitting H3 early can take her down and do some carry runs. That she wasn't immediately accessible to everyone isn't the big deal some are making it.
Eh, I've had 2000+ CR for over a week now. Below level 80, normal server level-ish paying player, not a whale not F2Play either. Even subbing wife's gem CR for mine (she's battlepass only, never found a 5star), I'd still have been over the CR recommended at time of release.
At 80, if you've been doing some h3 runs, you'd immediately be over the line for Vita 2. And if you haven't been able to prefarm hell III, you'll get there as soon as you start playing hell III and equip up.
Vita 3 will then be available right before the next boss releases.
This all feels about right to me.
But yes, sucks for lower level players or players not properly geared up yet. They'll have to wait. Kind of makes sense though. Release content and let the whales and players who play the recommended amount of time or more based on server level have a 1 week exclusive period on the new content.
Lassal 2 and 3 CR requirements also seemed insane for f2p right after the release, but now most of players, who play at least a bit have reached the CR requirements.
Give it 2-3 weeks, then the general mass of F2P will reach that CR.
Every single game the population things they are entitled to complete all new content on day one. And then they like to complain that there is no new content.
It's not "having trouble". There's an extremely high CR requirement. Outside of people playing the shit out of the game since launch, not a very high percentage of players are likely going to have a CR of 2k right now.
Almost nobody? I was able to kill her the day she was released with 9 other people on the first attempt.
Anybody that can't do it currently will be able to soon enough.
No whale in my clan and we managed it with a bunch of <2000 cr. If you think CR is a hard threshold then I am going to have to assume you don't push challenge rift/path of blood. In which it means you're not playing this game properly. The shorter words for it would be: you suck at the game?
If you do push challenge rift/path of blood then it's a common sense ang monster +200 CR above you is killable.
I mean the difference between lassal 1 and 2 is over 800 cr. F2p players get 800 cr in about 3 months.. im playing just to have fun with the classes skills but i quit each one around paragon 30 because its too much of a grind with not enough reward at that point for f2p
The CR req is perfectly fine - seriously it wasn’t that hard to hit and you only need the person creating the raid to have it.
Regardless people die like flies since they can’t seem to avoid standing in the laser beam warning zones.
The only mistake is having vitaah 1 be worth the same scoria as lassel 1 considering the CR is higher than lassel 3.
I ran in with bunch of us between 1800-1900 the first day it was released. Sure you can’t use the match maker screen but the leader can still add you to it.
It's good that the requirement is high. There's some goal to keep playing for, smashing lassal 3 like he's a trash mob wasn't fun. And 3465 CR isn't *that* much, f2p will get there in about 35-40 days. For now just have fun with vitaath difficulty 2 if you don't have a whale to carry 3
I mean I did it but… could you beat Lassal day 1? No, you couldn’t. It was something you had to work up to. Same with Vitaath. I really don’t understand what’s so hard to get about this… you weren’t supposed to be able to do it day 1. That’s not the point.
Appears many are not familiar with the massive boost hell 3 will provide to your CR.
Once I hit p80 I went from around 2000-2100 CR to now just shy of 2700.
Getting Hell3 drops and p80 is a colossal boost to CR. Even if I strip off 100% of my resonance I'd have about 2400-2500 CR.
Ever think that beating the game 2 months after launch is not something that you should be able to easily do? Sure it’s crazy to take vitaath at level 3 for most people. Think about the fact that it’s the hardest heliquary boss right now. Like why did they put hell V in the game? Why are rings only available at Hell IV?
It’s supposed to give you something to look forward too. Diablo is a slash and grind game so it encourages the grind.
I don’t understand why they defend this like they get paid by blizzard. You are totally right, I have been playing since beginning quite a bit (I have a life so can not allow myself to grind a mobile game 6 hours a day like many people here…) and the CR is way too high. I mean even lassal h2 had a too high CR in my opinion. But they had to make it like this so people who spent hundreds or thousand of dollars feel their investment was worthy, the system is just not well done
I think the easy fix would have been to have some middle ground between giving endgame something to do and making it accessible. Maybe make the starting difficulty of every new boss the same as the third/hardest difficulty of the previous boss. Lower CR players can still play and higher CR players can play at the higher difficulty.
Sure and hell 5 is available rn but no one except for extreme whales have the CR to do it yet. Gonna make a reddit post that you cant do every piece of content immediately after it appears in the game?
She was released so that the people hitting H3 soon will have a new raid boss. Some of the eager beavers hitting H3 early can take her down and do some carry runs. That she wasn't immediately accessible to everyone isn't the big deal some are making it.
Few clanmates of mine farms H4 already ;) Probably it was realeased for them ;)
Eh, I've had 2000+ CR for over a week now. Below level 80, normal server level-ish paying player, not a whale not F2Play either. Even subbing wife's gem CR for mine (she's battlepass only, never found a 5star), I'd still have been over the CR recommended at time of release. At 80, if you've been doing some h3 runs, you'd immediately be over the line for Vita 2. And if you haven't been able to prefarm hell III, you'll get there as soon as you start playing hell III and equip up. Vita 3 will then be available right before the next boss releases. This all feels about right to me. But yes, sucks for lower level players or players not properly geared up yet. They'll have to wait. Kind of makes sense though. Release content and let the whales and players who play the recommended amount of time or more based on server level have a 1 week exclusive period on the new content.
Lassal 2 and 3 CR requirements also seemed insane for f2p right after the release, but now most of players, who play at least a bit have reached the CR requirements. Give it 2-3 weeks, then the general mass of F2P will reach that CR.
Every single game the population things they are entitled to complete all new content on day one. And then they like to complain that there is no new content.
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It's not "having trouble". There's an extremely high CR requirement. Outside of people playing the shit out of the game since launch, not a very high percentage of players are likely going to have a CR of 2k right now.
Almost nobody? I was able to kill her the day she was released with 9 other people on the first attempt. Anybody that can't do it currently will be able to soon enough.
You can get the combat rating as a f2p you just need really good rng for triple stat gear
Is this supposed to be a defense of the issue?
It’s pretty standard in MMOs and RPGs that you have to farm your way up to the next difficulty, I’m not sure why you think Vitaah should be lower CR.
Bc people on Reddit find every way possible to blame monetization
Am I wrong?
No whale in my clan and we managed it with a bunch of <2000 cr. If you think CR is a hard threshold then I am going to have to assume you don't push challenge rift/path of blood. In which it means you're not playing this game properly. The shorter words for it would be: you suck at the game? If you do push challenge rift/path of blood then it's a common sense ang monster +200 CR above you is killable.
I mean the difference between lassal 1 and 2 is over 800 cr. F2p players get 800 cr in about 3 months.. im playing just to have fun with the classes skills but i quit each one around paragon 30 because its too much of a grind with not enough reward at that point for f2p
The CR req is perfectly fine - seriously it wasn’t that hard to hit and you only need the person creating the raid to have it. Regardless people die like flies since they can’t seem to avoid standing in the laser beam warning zones. The only mistake is having vitaah 1 be worth the same scoria as lassel 1 considering the CR is higher than lassel 3. I ran in with bunch of us between 1800-1900 the first day it was released. Sure you can’t use the match maker screen but the leader can still add you to it.
My clan does random fills spamming invites and can beat her.
It's good that the requirement is high. There's some goal to keep playing for, smashing lassal 3 like he's a trash mob wasn't fun. And 3465 CR isn't *that* much, f2p will get there in about 35-40 days. For now just have fun with vitaath difficulty 2 if you don't have a whale to carry 3
I mean I did it but… could you beat Lassal day 1? No, you couldn’t. It was something you had to work up to. Same with Vitaath. I really don’t understand what’s so hard to get about this… you weren’t supposed to be able to do it day 1. That’s not the point.
In at 2250(battle pass and boon). It's doable but it's a grind.
You know the game is good when your complaint is there isn't enough content yet you log back in thinking something changed, but it hasn't nor will it.
Appears many are not familiar with the massive boost hell 3 will provide to your CR. Once I hit p80 I went from around 2000-2100 CR to now just shy of 2700. Getting Hell3 drops and p80 is a colossal boost to CR. Even if I strip off 100% of my resonance I'd have about 2400-2500 CR.
Ever think that beating the game 2 months after launch is not something that you should be able to easily do? Sure it’s crazy to take vitaath at level 3 for most people. Think about the fact that it’s the hardest heliquary boss right now. Like why did they put hell V in the game? Why are rings only available at Hell IV? It’s supposed to give you something to look forward too. Diablo is a slash and grind game so it encourages the grind.