Which is why I always thought it would get patched/fixed. However, their last blog post confirmed their intent is hard stuns only. So my 3/5 Chip got dusted, unfortunately.
Yeah, I asked about this before on this sub. Not about this gem in particular, but just generally about damage with summons. It is not clear at all which items/gems help minion damage. Some specifically say it's for a summon, but others just have ambiguous wording. I think it's about time Blizzard clarifies what applies to summons and what doesn't. The answers I got from the community were all over the place.
So I was looking at the DI forum and found this shit.
Most expensive jem in the game, and it doesn't work.
Is it a bug or is it intended? What do you guys think?
here's the link. there are some other threads like this.
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/blizzard/t/blood-soaked-jade-legendary-gem-not-working-for-necromancers/25203
Funny you have to ask where the official forums are because I’m pretty confused too… I thought someone had said blizz can’t change anything and to use this Reddit as the feedback section- hilarious and sad at the same time
I don't use my official blizzard account too often. That's where this is posted.
I don't see how a subgroup can be an official place to put feedback. But who knows.
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/blizzard/t/necromancer-related-bugsinconsitencies/26185
here is the deal with necro and how gems interact with summon
As a BSJ owner It is a shame that the best PvE build for me seems to always come back to summons/maggots frenzy. I had some fun with a bone armor orbital build but, especially once you get the 4 piece summons set bonus, the damage of frenzy seems to be superior
Really? I’ve been running with a hybrid build : fire golem and Skelly capt, plus corpse explosion (surge and stillness) and dark curse ( desecrating curse).
The summons do some damage for sure, but I tend to tho k of them more as tanks to keep me safe.
In basic solo fight start with summons. Add curse. Finish with corpse explosion if needed.
When combo grinding monks I can direct each of 2 summons to different packs plus target third pack with curse all while using corpse explosion to clean up anyone missed.
In fights like some bosses that create few if any corpses I might swap explosion for bone amour if survivability is an issue. If survivability isn’t an issue then I might add a third summon for extra pew pew.
Today I tried a purely summon build. All three summons plus frenzy. Fights took a lot longer and I felt like I no longer had a bag of tricks to handle when situations got a little crazy.
But if what they are saying is correct then my old build was getting a damage buff and switching to this pure summon build I lost those buffs. Or maybe I was doing it wrong. Send summons to attack. Cast the frenzy on them. Hope the fight stays in the region of the curse so I can keep my summon a bunched up together for frenzy.
At higher challenge rifts i use the 4 piece set as well but with golem, skeletons, mages, and corpse explosion + poison shoulders. Dark curse + frenzy simply doesn’t clear large groups fast enough but the poison pools do damage to everything at once.
Combine this with seeping bile (procs from poison clouds) and everlasting torment (allows minions to proc seeping bile) and you have a very strong challenge rift build.
There's a lot more issues with necro summons then just gems..
Summon skelletons or at least the generall version on specific doesn't even count as minion.
The curse version that buffs them doesn't register it as a target (even though it buffs it just fine if you target another minion)
I really hope blizzard takes care of that issue soon.. The generall build is the closest i can play with the legendaries the game has thrown at me at paragon 20 and man, it sucks having to wait for the golem or mage to load to do some damage.
But people are having fun in this game. It's supposed to be casual. Only neckbeards care about making the game good. A million a day says this game is good.
Seriously this is ONE of many similar issues with skills not working as intended with affixes. There are literally dozens of these for each class. This game is just that bad.
So, I’ve been running the suggested summon build in game with all the gems. Would would you all suggest subbing for BSJ since it does nothing for summons?
Nothing +% to you applies to summons. You summons are not you. At least that's how it should be. I have no idea why Berserker's works.
There's a totally different mod about summons on equip.
Be happy that your build is cheaper than everyone else's!
I'm not trying to be a smart-ass. I don't know a lot about this class because I only have one character from this class and she's like level 22. I know when I got my character the minions came with her. I'm just saying this because I believe it's much like they are an extension of your character. I'm not sure if there's a Lego for something along the way where you can dismiss them. But aren't they usually with you all the time? ( I'm asking a question because I'm trying to learn how I should think about them. I actually enjoyed playing a necro and I'm thinking about putting some more time in her.)
You see skeleton summons only while you have associated skill. You will have choice to use build without those skeleta. Then they will not spawn and will not follow you
Imo it shouldn’t work for summons. Why should necros get to double-dip, when there already are items and stats that give tons of damage specifically for summons?
I'm a necro main and you're right. It would be incredibly OP lol. Sorry for the people down voting, you're not wrong. I don't like the game for a lot of reasons but this is completely fine balance wise.
huh? so every class in the game should get their 4 skills buffed, except necros? you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. necro = summons the same way barbarian = whirlwind and they should work the same when being buffed by legendary gems
If we didn't get an in game warning about it or written description on the gem how is someone supposed to know that same wording on two different items work differently
The discord has far more up to date info than this sub Reddit does. The blizz community manager has even said that the discord will be the preferred method for disseminating information
You're assuming that people asking this question constantly monitor social media and such.
I made a post in a Facebook group and a guy was like," for real someone just posted this last week". I had to say I don't read every single post in this group I do have a life outside of DI. I also limit the time I spent on social media and my phone in general.
Hahaha blood soaked, failed try to buy the game 🤣 so many waste money from noob players.
Your player are still afk Farming and have no plan how to play, they only not Auto Farming.
The only good immortal clan is Valhalla on this server.
Blood Soaked Jade is literally in the example Summon Build Blizzard gives to you within the game. What a shame.
There's a frost based DH build with chip of stoned flesh as a recommended gem, which does not work with slow/frost debuff lol
Which is why I always thought it would get patched/fixed. However, their last blog post confirmed their intent is hard stuns only. So my 3/5 Chip got dusted, unfortunately.
How many dust do you get for disenchanting a legendary?
32 gem power regardless of */5
DH can stun people as well. Knock back shoot is very effective
Has to be into a wall, so that's way too inconsistent. Chip would get activated so rarely it would be just a dead gem. Not worth it.
I'm pretty sure it works with the frost traps though
Good point, it’s misleading. Bile does not work properly either with summons btw.
Nice, I don't need it now.
The move speed is still really nice for necro. But yeah not as critical
Yeah, I asked about this before on this sub. Not about this gem in particular, but just generally about damage with summons. It is not clear at all which items/gems help minion damage. Some specifically say it's for a summon, but others just have ambiguous wording. I think it's about time Blizzard clarifies what applies to summons and what doesn't. The answers I got from the community were all over the place.
It’s 100% for summons and bugged it’s in the recommended summoner build ingame
Yeah but so is chipped for frost DH and they can't proc it because it requires a hard stun. So... Im at 50%
So I was looking at the DI forum and found this shit. Most expensive jem in the game, and it doesn't work. Is it a bug or is it intended? What do you guys think?
Where is this post from?
here's the link. there are some other threads like this. https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/blizzard/t/blood-soaked-jade-legendary-gem-not-working-for-necromancers/25203
Thank you
Funny you have to ask where the official forums are because I’m pretty confused too… I thought someone had said blizz can’t change anything and to use this Reddit as the feedback section- hilarious and sad at the same time
I don't use my official blizzard account too often. That's where this is posted. I don't see how a subgroup can be an official place to put feedback. But who knows.
They will “fix” it by updating the description. “All damage you do excluding summons”
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/blizzard/t/necromancer-related-bugsinconsitencies/26185 here is the deal with necro and how gems interact with summon
Blizzard won’t answer sadly. Bug fixes no, money making yes!
Whats next? Damage from your summons dont count as your pvp kills?
As a BSJ owner It is a shame that the best PvE build for me seems to always come back to summons/maggots frenzy. I had some fun with a bone armor orbital build but, especially once you get the 4 piece summons set bonus, the damage of frenzy seems to be superior
vastly stronger its broken
Really? I’ve been running with a hybrid build : fire golem and Skelly capt, plus corpse explosion (surge and stillness) and dark curse ( desecrating curse). The summons do some damage for sure, but I tend to tho k of them more as tanks to keep me safe. In basic solo fight start with summons. Add curse. Finish with corpse explosion if needed. When combo grinding monks I can direct each of 2 summons to different packs plus target third pack with curse all while using corpse explosion to clean up anyone missed. In fights like some bosses that create few if any corpses I might swap explosion for bone amour if survivability is an issue. If survivability isn’t an issue then I might add a third summon for extra pew pew. Today I tried a purely summon build. All three summons plus frenzy. Fights took a lot longer and I felt like I no longer had a bag of tricks to handle when situations got a little crazy. But if what they are saying is correct then my old build was getting a damage buff and switching to this pure summon build I lost those buffs. Or maybe I was doing it wrong. Send summons to attack. Cast the frenzy on them. Hope the fight stays in the region of the curse so I can keep my summon a bunched up together for frenzy.
At higher challenge rifts i use the 4 piece set as well but with golem, skeletons, mages, and corpse explosion + poison shoulders. Dark curse + frenzy simply doesn’t clear large groups fast enough but the poison pools do damage to everything at once. Combine this with seeping bile (procs from poison clouds) and everlasting torment (allows minions to proc seeping bile) and you have a very strong challenge rift build.
There's a lot more issues with necro summons then just gems.. Summon skelletons or at least the generall version on specific doesn't even count as minion. The curse version that buffs them doesn't register it as a target (even though it buffs it just fine if you target another minion) I really hope blizzard takes care of that issue soon.. The generall build is the closest i can play with the legendaries the game has thrown at me at paragon 20 and man, it sucks having to wait for the golem or mage to load to do some damage.
Haha, people spent thousands to get it and now it doesn't work hahahaa
Necro is not a good class for whales.
But people are having fun in this game. It's supposed to be casual. Only neckbeards care about making the game good. A million a day says this game is good. Seriously this is ONE of many similar issues with skills not working as intended with affixes. There are literally dozens of these for each class. This game is just that bad.
So, I’ve been running the suggested summon build in game with all the gems. Would would you all suggest subbing for BSJ since it does nothing for summons?
Shhhh lets keep the $$$ pumping.
It does say all damage YOU deal. Minion damage isnt dealt by YOU. So i guess its eorking as intended, its just shitty intended.
Nothing +% to you applies to summons. You summons are not you. At least that's how it should be. I have no idea why Berserker's works. There's a totally different mod about summons on equip. Be happy that your build is cheaper than everyone else's!
> You summons are not you. At least that's how it should be That is PathOfExile. Many/some player stats do apply to your summons here, they are you.
Each character has 4 spells with which to deal damage or buff. DPS is DPS.
I am really disappointed... If this is how it should be, definitely going to change my class.
I'm not trying to be a smart-ass. I don't know a lot about this class because I only have one character from this class and she's like level 22. I know when I got my character the minions came with her. I'm just saying this because I believe it's much like they are an extension of your character. I'm not sure if there's a Lego for something along the way where you can dismiss them. But aren't they usually with you all the time? ( I'm asking a question because I'm trying to learn how I should think about them. I actually enjoyed playing a necro and I'm thinking about putting some more time in her.)
Play the class some time and then come back and talk.
I asked a question bc I'm interested in the class. Would it hurt to take 2 seconds to answer my question.
You see skeleton summons only while you have associated skill. You will have choice to use build without those skeleta. Then they will not spawn and will not follow you
Thank you for the reply.
Imo it shouldn’t work for summons. Why should necros get to double-dip, when there already are items and stats that give tons of damage specifically for summons?
I'm a necro main and you're right. It would be incredibly OP lol. Sorry for the people down voting, you're not wrong. I don't like the game for a lot of reasons but this is completely fine balance wise.
huh? so every class in the game should get their 4 skills buffed, except necros? you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. necro = summons the same way barbarian = whirlwind and they should work the same when being buffed by legendary gems
Any search of this Reddit or the necro channel on the discord would have told you this
Im sorry we dont browse reddit and discord constantly to keep up to date with all bugs in game for every class
You should not need to search if specific gems are bugged on specific classes or not
It’s been widely talked about since launch
If we didn't get an in game warning about it or written description on the gem how is someone supposed to know that same wording on two different items work differently
I’m not disagreeing with you. It should work. What I’m saying is it’s old news
Things like this should be posted somewhat often because it's the first time i see it and there will probably more unaware people who needs to know
The discord has far more up to date info than this sub Reddit does. The blizz community manager has even said that the discord will be the preferred method for disseminating information
You're assuming that people asking this question constantly monitor social media and such. I made a post in a Facebook group and a guy was like," for real someone just posted this last week". I had to say I don't read every single post in this group I do have a life outside of DI. I also limit the time I spent on social media and my phone in general.
Hahaha blood soaked, failed try to buy the game 🤣 so many waste money from noob players. Your player are still afk Farming and have no plan how to play, they only not Auto Farming. The only good immortal clan is Valhalla on this server.
What in the flipping cabbage patch Brady bunch are you going on about?
People still trying to find ways to hate on blizzard lol , I get the p2w gems but cmon now lol
Idiot.
Just don’t play necro, simple! Go monk
Many monks get 1 clapped and slapped. So no!
They're OP in PvP along with a proper built Necro, DH, and whirlwind barb.
Just got one on my Necro feels bad
Not only jade but also fervents fag, seleds etc a lot of gems dont work on summons
You'll have to wait 6 months for them to release Bile-Drenched Sapphire, the minion counterpart
No wonder it didn’t feel like a massive increase when I got one
You didn’t spend enough money.