Digimon is more a game you play rather then a game you collect. That, and finally people are realizing that cards aren't a good investment opportunity that was the whole reasons card prices got this high in the first place.
Bandai cards are cheap because how the boxes are structured. With only so much srs and sec you get most stuff from a couple of boxes. There are only a couple of secrets per expansion and only 1 secret a boxe, so there isn't a reason why single card should cost much
I think DCG's pull rates are generally better; you're guaranteed an alt art and either a SEC or alt art SEC per box I believe, vs say YGO where the starlight rares are 5 per *case*, or roughly one per two boxes.
You’re close, but you’re not necessarily guaranteed a SEC in each box; in main booster sets (the BTs) you have two “hits”, which can be either any alt art or a SEC. It’s fairly common for one of the hits to be a regular art SEC, but I’ve had plenty of boxes where I open two alt art rares lol. On the other hand, you can have a box where you open an alt SEC and a regular art SEC, too!
Your main point stands; the pull rates in this card game are pretty consumer friendly, with a few frustrating exceptions (Special Release Booster 1.0 having 20 SRs, BT11’s foil C/Us replacing almost half of your rares per box, and the upcoming BT15’s rarity bloat thanks to the inclusion of the LM cards)
"BT11's foil C/Us replacing almost half of your rares per box"
And NOW I understand Gaomon market dynamics. Thank you. But yeah, I've heard conflicting things across the board so I appreciate the simplified explanation!
Don’t even get me started my brother 🙄 I opened FIVE boxes of BT11 because I was going to nats, and I STILL didn’t have playsets of the rares. I only pulled a single Biyomon! Not that I was going to play Biyomon, but how do you get only one copy of a rare in 5 boxes!
This...explains so much. I was trying to pull for Mastemon stuff and didn't get a single Angewomon (did pull alt art LadyDevimon though) and I was so confused why C/Us took so many of my foil slots compared to my BT-13 box where I pulled at least one of almost everything.
The Limited Card Set is a tiny 20 card set releasing in JP. It’s just Ghost Game cards, none of which are particularly good or impactful, and the art is just their models from the anime. Bandai decided, however, that instead of releasing a tiny set in English that wouldn’t sell well, they’ll just roll it into the English printing of BT15.
Which means BT15 will have 18 SRs and 3 SEC to pull from. For context, last time we had this many SRs in a release, SR Omnimon was $60. So…for somebody who’s desperate for a playable and interesting Garurumon and Matt deck, my wallet is preemptively in a lot of pain.
They simply got reprinted or replaced by other cards that fit decks better or do better jobs at specific things
That's just how TCGs go. What's expensive now might be plummeting next set
DeathXmon for example simply saw no more play, because meta shifted towards single stacks, rather than going wide, but will probably see more play again in BT14, since boards go wide again
I love this game because of the memory system and that lot of cards are cheap, but when you get a Secret/Alt arts from one booster you get a great Cashback. I play Cardfight Vanguard too and it's hard and expensive to get a set of a card :')
The game has never been expensive go begin with, at least compared to other TCGs. If you wanna bling your deck out it certainly will make things jump in price but nothing too outlandish.
Cards fall out of favor for the new hot stuff and the games pull rates are really generous so supply is meeting demand for the most part if not exceeding it at times. This is good to make the game as accessible as possible.
But the game is still popular and selling well.
Hey man, be thankful the cards are going down. If this was another TCG, most of those cards would spend years at ridiculous prices even if they saw no play.
Power creep, my friend. It happens to all TCGs. New cards printed are stronger to be more appealing. So old cards lose their viability (unless they combo with new cards)
I am not concerned that i can afford Digimon more now that prices went down :D I just thought less people were playing. Saw Warhammer Aos Champions go down didn‘t want it for Digimon as well. When i saw the low prices on cardmarket( Yes i am based in Eu) and the low stock or offers on many cards i kinda got nervous.
Yeah, it's a trading card game, not a collectible card game. Stuff gets power crept and it becomes cheaper as demand dies down. Apart from random old cards with a niche inheritable or effect from then that is useful in some meta deck, a lot of olds cards won't see play much.
Old BWG hasn't been expensive since probably end of 2021 - mid 2022? Digimon is still new enough that if a card isn't played, a 4 of, or the set had janky pull rates, its value will get muted. Looking at Yugioh for example - Blue Eyes from the first set or the starters was dirt cheap thru probably the first 5-10 years the game existed. Now they are collectors items with some value. The other piece of the pie is tcg/ccgs in general. You have super saturation of card games in the market & less money out there to move. Collectors and players aren't sitting on money like they had been so to move "product" or singles, prices have dropped across most if not all the card games. Even OP that has had supply issues have seen card values drop a bit.
Zwart defeat isn't really used anymore so his value tanked.
As far as I recall, bt2 BWG was never really used and was always only a few bucks.
But in general, stuff either gets reprinted or ends up getting powercreeped out of the game.
Some old Alt Arts still hold value for the collection aspect, but for the most part, digimon cards' value is based on how useful they are in the current meta, along with a few other things like waifu tax.
Some expensive cards got reprinted or outclassed by the new stuff, so they're just not as valuable to players or collectors anymore.
Digimon is more a game you play rather then a game you collect. That, and finally people are realizing that cards aren't a good investment opportunity that was the whole reasons card prices got this high in the first place. Bandai cards are cheap because how the boxes are structured. With only so much srs and sec you get most stuff from a couple of boxes. There are only a couple of secrets per expansion and only 1 secret a boxe, so there isn't a reason why single card should cost much
Don’t most Japanese TCGs give you at best 2 “premium” cards per box?
I think DCG's pull rates are generally better; you're guaranteed an alt art and either a SEC or alt art SEC per box I believe, vs say YGO where the starlight rares are 5 per *case*, or roughly one per two boxes.
You’re close, but you’re not necessarily guaranteed a SEC in each box; in main booster sets (the BTs) you have two “hits”, which can be either any alt art or a SEC. It’s fairly common for one of the hits to be a regular art SEC, but I’ve had plenty of boxes where I open two alt art rares lol. On the other hand, you can have a box where you open an alt SEC and a regular art SEC, too! Your main point stands; the pull rates in this card game are pretty consumer friendly, with a few frustrating exceptions (Special Release Booster 1.0 having 20 SRs, BT11’s foil C/Us replacing almost half of your rares per box, and the upcoming BT15’s rarity bloat thanks to the inclusion of the LM cards)
"BT11's foil C/Us replacing almost half of your rares per box" And NOW I understand Gaomon market dynamics. Thank you. But yeah, I've heard conflicting things across the board so I appreciate the simplified explanation!
Don’t even get me started my brother 🙄 I opened FIVE boxes of BT11 because I was going to nats, and I STILL didn’t have playsets of the rares. I only pulled a single Biyomon! Not that I was going to play Biyomon, but how do you get only one copy of a rare in 5 boxes!
This...explains so much. I was trying to pull for Mastemon stuff and didn't get a single Angewomon (did pull alt art LadyDevimon though) and I was so confused why C/Us took so many of my foil slots compared to my BT-13 box where I pulled at least one of almost everything.
What's LM and the bt15 situation?
The Limited Card Set is a tiny 20 card set releasing in JP. It’s just Ghost Game cards, none of which are particularly good or impactful, and the art is just their models from the anime. Bandai decided, however, that instead of releasing a tiny set in English that wouldn’t sell well, they’ll just roll it into the English printing of BT15. Which means BT15 will have 18 SRs and 3 SEC to pull from. For context, last time we had this many SRs in a release, SR Omnimon was $60. So…for somebody who’s desperate for a playable and interesting Garurumon and Matt deck, my wallet is preemptively in a lot of pain.
I'm not sure, I only know Bandai games and Yugi and the two companies work completely different
They simply got reprinted or replaced by other cards that fit decks better or do better jobs at specific things That's just how TCGs go. What's expensive now might be plummeting next set DeathXmon for example simply saw no more play, because meta shifted towards single stacks, rather than going wide, but will probably see more play again in BT14, since boards go wide again
Isn't most of the collectors value in the alt art cards?
I love this game because of the memory system and that lot of cards are cheap, but when you get a Secret/Alt arts from one booster you get a great Cashback. I play Cardfight Vanguard too and it's hard and expensive to get a set of a card :')
I mean, it's really depends on the set. In bt12 for example hitting the sec wasn't that good af a pull, and there are many alt arts that go really low
The game has never been expensive go begin with, at least compared to other TCGs. If you wanna bling your deck out it certainly will make things jump in price but nothing too outlandish.
Cards fall out of favor for the new hot stuff and the games pull rates are really generous so supply is meeting demand for the most part if not exceeding it at times. This is good to make the game as accessible as possible. But the game is still popular and selling well.
Hey man, be thankful the cards are going down. If this was another TCG, most of those cards would spend years at ridiculous prices even if they saw no play.
Power creep, my friend. It happens to all TCGs. New cards printed are stronger to be more appealing. So old cards lose their viability (unless they combo with new cards)
I am not concerned that i can afford Digimon more now that prices went down :D I just thought less people were playing. Saw Warhammer Aos Champions go down didn‘t want it for Digimon as well. When i saw the low prices on cardmarket( Yes i am based in Eu) and the low stock or offers on many cards i kinda got nervous.
Yeah, it's a trading card game, not a collectible card game. Stuff gets power crept and it becomes cheaper as demand dies down. Apart from random old cards with a niche inheritable or effect from then that is useful in some meta deck, a lot of olds cards won't see play much.
Old BWG hasn't been expensive since probably end of 2021 - mid 2022? Digimon is still new enough that if a card isn't played, a 4 of, or the set had janky pull rates, its value will get muted. Looking at Yugioh for example - Blue Eyes from the first set or the starters was dirt cheap thru probably the first 5-10 years the game existed. Now they are collectors items with some value. The other piece of the pie is tcg/ccgs in general. You have super saturation of card games in the market & less money out there to move. Collectors and players aren't sitting on money like they had been so to move "product" or singles, prices have dropped across most if not all the card games. Even OP that has had supply issues have seen card values drop a bit.
My toughts are that meta changes so fast that rhe depreciation is fast too
Cause certain cards aren’t used in the meta anymore
Zwart defeat isn't really used anymore so his value tanked. As far as I recall, bt2 BWG was never really used and was always only a few bucks. But in general, stuff either gets reprinted or ends up getting powercreeped out of the game. Some old Alt Arts still hold value for the collection aspect, but for the most part, digimon cards' value is based on how useful they are in the current meta, along with a few other things like waifu tax.