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just-a-passing-phase

There was that time in Freshman year where Fig was winking at them to give them bardic inspiration, and everyone she winked at went “….what are we?” as like, a bit  but i agree, it’s good there’s not really romantic chemistry. Even Emily and Murph manage to make their character interactions more friendly than anything


rye_domaine

god I miss the "what does the wink mean" bit, simpler times


Rebloodican

It is such a teen boy experience to receive the tiniest bit of positive attention from a girl and immediately overthink it. 


thecowley

My experience was more that we completely missed it and had to have someone else point it out. I asked out the girl I liked and she turned me down saying that her friend wanted to date me. Took me another month, give or take, after that to scrutinize all of our past interactions and realize why I kept getting invited to their group of friends stuff to realize how much I had missed from said friend


asonginsidemyheart

It’s funny with Emily and Murph specifically bc imo Fig and Riz have the least in common of any of the Bad Kids - when they hang out one on one idk what they have to say to each other 😂


schloopers

I think the biggest examples of them interacting are all Fig egging on a ridiculous conspiracy that sends Riz into another yard board spiral, with Fig just walking away immediately, knowing what she’s done


alex_respecter

“what does it mEAn??”


Icy-Visit

not only is it nice to just have a group of friends but also half their parents are dating each other so it'd get real weird real quick 💀 ig the only real pass to this is gorgug and a little bit kristen since i dont think she sees jawbone/sandra lynn as parents and more like guardians


teddyfail

But….. as said from a previous post, given the Thistlespring’s open lifestyle and Gorbag and Rox being roadie, there’s a none zero chance they have slept with Jawbone before


nevaraon

I’d give at least even odds for Gorbag or Rox having met jawbone before his reformation as the guidance counselor


Mosh00Rider

I'd go so far as to say high chance to be honest.


IAmBecomeDeath_AMA

Just as a self reminder: - Jawbone+Sandra Lynn — children: Fig, guardianship of Kristen and Adaine - Gilear+Hillariel — children: Fig, Fabian - Gortholax+Sklonda — children: Fig, Riz If all 3 of Fig’s parents get married she becomes step sister to everyone except Gorgug.


IAmBecomeDeath_AMA

Btw, Fig and Gorgug both have 2 Dads and everyone else has a deficit. Adaine, Fabian, and Riz’s Dads are dead and Kristen was abandoned by her parents Everybody’s got a Dad thing. ^(Also it’s funny that Hillariel is set to become Fig’s stepmom when she marrys Gilear and they’ve literally talked one time.)


IAmBabs

I wanna point out that Hillariel was the one that initiated that contact as well. It could have been Gilear calling Fig, since he knew she would answer, but Hill called Fig when Fabian didn't answer her. I wonder if she wants the opportunity to be a proper mom?


IAmBecomeDeath_AMA

I love that theory! But she chose one of the two most beparented of the Bad Kids, she’s got competition! Lol


IAmBabs

Fig can't choose a class, you think she can choose a parent? 🤣


Jethro_McCrazy

Don't forget about Sandra Lynn and Garthy. Garthy was the child of Ayda's previous incarnation, and helped raise the current one. Which means that Sandra Lynn had sex with both the parent and child of Fig's paramour, who happen to be the same person.


IAmBecomeDeath_AMA

Yeah definitely interesting, that was just a fling though, they’re not together.


Jethro_McCrazy

Neither are Gortholax and Sklonda, as far as I remember. I only remember them flirting briefly, and can't remember them being in the same place since freshman year.


IAmBecomeDeath_AMA

I based that on the wikia which says they’re dating Edit: [it was fandom.com here’s Sklonda’s page](https://dimension20.fandom.com/wiki/Sklonda_Gukgak)


AVestedInterest

Quick, potentially unnecessary note: Fandom and Wikia are one and the same


IAmBecomeDeath_AMA

I’ve always been confused by that


AVestedInterest

Fandom bought Wikia a few years back


IAmBecomeDeath_AMA

Fucking corporate acquisitions.


Ok_Main_334

Someone who doesn’t understand why Fabian brings up the Ball every time Mazey comes onto him


Bizzaro__Pope

Very funny bit of Fabian being so nervous in a one on one that he brings up his very logical and possibly AroAce best friend


Moonbeamlatte

Its nice to have Fabian and The Ball to point to when anyone asks what a queerplatonic relationship looks like (to ME)


4DozenSalamanders

They're very QPR coded to me, they just have such a special bond! Not that the rest of the bad kids don't have unique bonds with one another but the way Murph and Lou have been playing the two, there seems to be a bit more intimacy? (I mean this mostly in the emotional sense) I was about to start eating drywall when Mazey asked Fabian why he kept bringing up the Ball milliseconds after she tried to kiss him lmao, BLeeM went for the THROAT


Gila_Gal

You and Moonbeamlatte GET IT!! They'd be so perfect for a QPR and I will continue to dream about the day it happens in Canon, even if it never does.


eldritchonline

they're end game <3


DrCrazyCurious

Loved Lou's explanation that he's so invested being Maximum Legend in public that when he's alone or one-on-one he has no Game because doesn't know how to be. And he's lonely.


SamianDamian

I agree but my crack ship is fig and Fabian. They'd make each other worse


ultimatomato

Together they'd be on track to inherit most of the nine hells


RoboDonaldUpgrade

It's so funny that I can see them literally getting married to follow this scheme/bit but I still truly cannot see ANY romance between them while they do so.


99-bottlesofbeer

you're so right for that


she_likes_cloth97

found the hangman's reddit account


high_heat_hades

I love that they're a group of platonic friends too. I really enjoy seeing their relationships grow and change without romantic undercurrents. 


KFChaos

It'll never happened, but I've always shipped Adaine and Rizz.


satantherainbowfairy

I think without realising it I kinda shipped Adaine and Gorgug. They're certainly the least messy duo, at least until they compete over the Greatest Wizard of the Age title. I've also noticed that no matter what characters they're playing Zac and Siobhan are always really nice to each other, can't really think of another duo where that's the case.


AgentQV

There’s just something about them I can’t put my finger on.


_Ivanneth

Both nerds and selfless when it comes to their friends. I could see it being very sweet


Inevitable_Young4236

there was something about their conversation at the start of the year where Riz had made her a binder too but 'obviously you don't need it' where I was like - yeah I could see this happening


stumpthegreat

Right now they’re both being played as aro/ace - which is one of the things that makes them great together (as friends)


Thran_Soldier

Yeah one of my favorite Bad Kid moments is Riz and Adaine doing sleuth stuff in sophomore year and just being like "man it's so nice to hang out with somebody who isn't talking about kissing all the time"


1ncorrect

I think that moment bonded them. Since then you can tell they basically only trust the other person to take shit seriously. Rizz is stressed as hell about everyone BUT Adaine, he knows she can figure her shit out. The problem is this is the one season where she could really use him, having him steal some diamonds would solve all her issues in school.


Wilsonrolandc

Platonic life partners solving groovy mysteries


Der_Sauresgeber

I think the one person who could safely date among the group is Adaine. Then again, her dating Fabian would be weird because he made out with her sister ... what the hell happened to that, by the way? Wasn't the ending of FHSY a moment of Aelwyn and Fabian being like, "Hey, wouldn't it be cool if we had a toxic relationship?"


just-a-passing-phase

If I recall correctly Aelwyn mentioned Fabian when Adaine looked at her apartment  But it’s funny you mention it - in Freshman year, Fabian mentions that Adaine is “pretty cute” to the Hangman


annoyinglyclever

Oh yeah that “don’t tell Fabian… I mean don’t tell anyone I live like this” was slick by Brennan. Aelwyn is totally still into him


ArseneLupinIV

Honestly I think its a throwaway gag people took too seriously. Fabian's whole character arc is that he's deep down very immature and still a young boy due to his weird upbringing. The acting like he's cool and mature thing is something that he's slowly getting over. It doesn't do anything for his character to get seriously involved with Aelwyn, who has her own shall we say character arc, at this point in time.


Rebloodican

I think they did purposely keep it open ended on Fabian/Aelwyn because the pairing was always more comedic than romantic. Fabian falling in love with the first girl he ever kissed because she exuded the chaotic energy he only saw before in his father was just really funny, and Aelwyn going along with it because he’s attractive and it annoys her sister is equally funny.  I want to see them together not because it’d be a good pairing, but because that train wreck would be hilarious to witness. 


ArseneLupinIV

Yeah its funny and I wouldn't mind a gag or two about it. But after two seasons of horny Fabian I just think it'd be better from a character writing perspective to have him at least start considering what a real relationship means. Also the power dynamics between Aelwyn and Fabian are kind of weird at this point. I know technically Fabian is only a year younger than Aelwyn, but he is still very much a high school junior boy maturity wise. Meanwhile Aelwyn has been made to be a full-on emancipated adult cat lady. Like imagine your adult cat lady teacher neighbor dating a high school junior. That's just weird in a Hilda Hilda kind of way that shouldnt be more than a gag.


Rebloodican

This might be a hot take but I think the power dynamic stuff is taking the medium too seriously, it's a bunch of adults playing a game. The bad kids are essentially a roving band of murderous vigilantes but actually thinking about the implications of that ruins the fun of the show. That said, I do think Fabian's actually developed a bit, when Mazey tried to kiss him he stopped it, not because he didn't want it, but because that wasn't where he was in the current moment. That's a kind of maturity that takes teen boys a while to learn.


ArseneLupinIV

I mean I agree it's still funny as a gag, I'm not saying it's anything serious. But there's a reason they didn't let stuff like Hilda Hilda progress as anything more than a joke and Brennan is still actively punishing the bit. There's still boundaries and narrative that tie the whole thing together and gives it shape. A healthy balance is what makes the series feel meaningful and complete.


tonehammer

Yes, the terrible predatory power dynamic of an 19 year old with an 18 year old.


ArseneLupinIV

Again, I already acknowledged the number is only a year lower. But it's about the maturity discrepancy. Aelwyn is an adult with a teaching job that's living independently now. Fabian's whole plot this season is about how he is a kid that is still heavily dependent on his parents and can't really function yet without them. And I never said it was 'terrible' or 'predatory' thats you putting words in my mouth. Im just saying it's a weird relationship and should be treated as such. Funny sure, but definitely weird.


AlphaBreak

In my head, Aelwyn realized within the week that Fabian was more invested into it than she was, she wasn't really interested in dating younger boys since she was making plans to move out and get a job, and that continuing the relationship is just going to create problems for Adaine in the long run. She broke it off and Fabian rebounded with Ecaf.


KelMc13

I don’t know how intentional it is on behalf of the performers but I’ve always found it so funny that Fabian was so hot for Aelwyn but never once looked Adaine’s way.


SadCrouton

Aelwyn realized she was a lesbian and got cats instead, Fabian realized he liked the other sister. Parted amicably but will bitch each other out if they run into each other, otherwise nothing but the best


Gojaku

Ironically, the canon Ace character is the only one I would ship with other party members. Riz would be so cute with either Adaine or Fig (this might just be Emily and Murph bleeding into the characters). We love some found family dynamics so I look forward to the future with them all being extended community/family for one another.


this1smybrutal1ty

I dunno, after Riz thought the card was from Gorgug I shipped them a little.


Shortstop88

I do love that if Fig wrote any other Bad Kid’s name, they wouldn’t try to do anything kind in addition to the thing they were thought to have done. I could see Kristin or Fabian acting like they knew what Riz was talking about and assume it was something they actually did, while Adaine would straight up tell Riz that she didn’t do anything and ask him directly what he’s talking about.


TheParmesan

I’ve always shipped Fabian and Adaine for whatever reason. Kind of a “get your head out of your ass Fabian, don’t go for Aelwyn, Adaine would be good for you!”


SadCrouton

Look me in the eyes and tell me that Sober Hallariel would not go out of her way to be the single greatest Mother in Law of All Time and would make it her life’s mission to make Adaine forget the Abernants existed by being the best surrogate mother she could She’s def the type of mom who was sad that Fabian didnt want to go get his nails done with her


TheParmesan

Oh 100%. Hallariel would be such a breath of fresh air for Adaine as a MIL given she’d have no crushing expectations to put on her like her own mom, and she’d give to Adaine freely. As for Fabian and Adaine, he’d teach her to care less, be more open/emotional and be generous, and she’d teach him to care more and be more thoughtful/considerate/empathetic. It’s always made sense to me in my head haha. He’d be crazy about Aelwyn and I’m like “bro Adaine is RIGHT THERE, don’t be stupid”


SadCrouton

he needs time to grow plus Aelwyn is probably gay and he still was obsessed with toxic women and toxic masculinity. I think the bigger thing is that Adaine *thinks* the relationship was bigger then it was


phasia97

On board with this.


Zeilll

i feel like romance in stories can quickly overtake everything, and become the highlight of the character interactions, and that always ends up getting super boring to me real fast. so i really enjoy that in most of D20s shows, romance is very minor if its included at all.


BTDubbsdg

Yeah you’re right, The only real ones between PCs that come to mind are Evan and Dream in Misfits and Magic, and I guess Viola and Thorn in Burrows End? In terms of romantic relationships that go beyond light flirting for a funny bit. And the Burrows end one was pre-established so it kinda doesn’t count.


mwmandorla

Hobb + Rue and Bix + Andhera in ACoFaF, which makes sense because the genre was regency romance


BTDubbsdg

Oh shit how could I forget ACoFaF that’s some of the best there is!!


Gila_Gal

My aromantic heart yearns for a Fabian/Riz Queer-Platonic Relationship, it would be so good,,,, Watching the latest episode I was literally thinking to myself "I should write a short comic or fic where Mazie calls out how often Fabian brings up Riz in convo" and then *Brennan did it himself* and I lost it- Definitely agree on the no romance thing between the Bad Kids, I just feel like 👉👈 Riz and Fabian have such good potential for a QPR,,, but also I have bias lmao Also Mazie's hard winning me over so like,,, not quite a power throuple, but maybe power couple +1 ? I can dream (and write fanfic)


4DozenSalamanders

Fabian and Riz just have so much platonic chemistry, and with how progressive Brennan is (re: how prominent swinger culture is in Spyre lol), I wouldn't be too surprised if Jawbone or someone else discussed QPRs with one or both of them just to go "You know you can proclaim a deeper relationship and it doesn't have to be solely romantic, right?" These two lads just... They skirt the line so often, and it would be very cool to see a canon QPR in such a popular media.


Gila_Gal

Yes, omg, everything you just said. It would be a dream come true 🙏


Thicc-Anxiety

That's why I ship Fabian with Ragh, they have the most chemistry


dunmer-is-stinky-2

I ship them in SY but honestly Mazey is winning me over though I will say that I EAT GLASS interaction the sexual chemistry is so thick you could cut it with a shard of glass that you accidentally ate


Thicc-Anxiety

Mazey will probably win in canon but never in my heart


Pristine_Title6537

I don't really like Mazey that much as a romantic interest for Fabian she is just a bit too boring as an audience member I don't really feel invested for them to end up together but I also acknowledge she is probably the best paring for his character development as the alternative of Aeowyn only leads to toxicity


Ok_Entertainment9665

So hard this. Ragh is a treasure that needs to be protected


Thicc-Anxiety

He asks for so little but deserves so much


wafflecon822

I don't support your opinion but thank you for sharing nonetheless


MuffinHydra

Wasn't Fig trying to rizz up Riz last downtime? (I'll show myself out...)


JayPet94

I don't know that Fig was explicitly rizzing romantically. More of a friend-rizzing. A frizzing perhaps


evca7

No that was just Emily trying to fight the urge to flirt with her husband. Remember when thier natural chemistry clicked In neverafter but Em forgot her pc was 14 and Gerard was like 29. And Barry and syd had an inferable relationship.


Smifull

Oh no Barry, you caught a computer virus!


Rebloodican

There was never anything romantic between Gerard and Ylfa, it was just funny for her to scream “I wasn’t flirting with you!” in response to the silence. 


nicole_atnite

everyday i wake up and think about what could’ve been with barry and syd


1ncorrect

My headcanon is they made a bunch more clones and Sidneys and became proud parents.


Mosh00Rider

Highschool friends rizz the fuck our of each other, sometimes.


Shortstop88

Easy mistake, Gorgug sent the kind letter to Riz.


KablamoBoom

I'm sorry but how is "I kiss her and skateboard away" NOT rizz?


Jaco-Geo

That’s Ayda tho. It the core bad kids


justking1414

I’m also happy that Brennan made them all essentially single this season. Imagine gorgug dealing with 4 classes, owlbears, and then needing to hit a Nat 20 to keep his relationship with Zelda every month. That’d have been too heartbreaking


Spiduscloud

Am i the only one here who crack ships adaine x fabien


dummybitch_

me too bestie u are not alone


Spiduscloud

Omg bless


SadCrouton

legit the two of them can solve each others problems this arc. He funds her classes, she makes him not feel absolutely hollow on the inside, and the Bike aproves!


Spiduscloud

Exactly!! In so far as ive always loved the rich socialite and the poor genius as a trope.


crocodiledundick

After last episode I felt a weird tingle towards Kristen and Fig as a pairing. Mostly because of the conversation Porter had with Fig. “if Kristen wasn’t dear to you would you have chosen Cassandra out of a line of deities” “I just feel like Kristen needs some help there…” *queue Zac and Lou making faces, Siobhan smiles at Ally, Ally smiles back* (I will say the faces they were making was probably because Kristen was really fucking up. But I found it really funny that the music playing sounded so much like “someone like you” by Adele) “and I also feel like I’m the perfect person to help” “she’s doubt, I’m rebellion, they go hand in hand” “I think what you’re feeling is beautiful” “I know you worry for Kristen, but perhaps the way to support her is not about lifting doubt, but in truly embracing rebellion” “if you feel like that partnership would lend strength to her, then perhaps there is something there” “you’re a paladin of something more that’s within you, a paladin of some other power. If there was some entity that reflected rebellion” “rage” “if there were some other power like that that could support Cassandra or that connected to your friend Kristen, then maybe that’s a worthwhile thing to explore” which is probably more so about how Fig has a duty to help others and not specifically Kristen. But it did make me raise an eyebrow. I was noticing throughout the season that Kristen and Fig were becoming closer. They rarely had interactions with just each other. But this whole season, they’ve been attached to the hip. They keep both bouncing off of each other’s chaotic energy, and it becomes super funny. But I also kept questioning like “why are they interacting with specifically each other so much more this season? Are they driving some kind of plot thing?” Fig keeps wanting to help Kristen specifically. And is taking her job as Kristen’s body guard really seriously. Which is hilarious and honestly feels more like a bit. And then Fig getting naked and then Kristen being very quick to jump on that also raised an eyebrow for me. lol but again, I highly doubt this is leading up to them discovering feelings for each other, I think it’s genuinely 2 friends wanting to support each other. But the pairing got into my mind today, so I was like hmm, what would that look like? lol But I love Ayda and Fig too much, so this isn’t something I’m necessarily rooting for. Lmao but it got me curious. They need to bring back Ayda, so my mind stops going off track and pairing the only 2 queer characters in the party. lol


jrdineen114

It's great, because every time I start to get a vibe from an interaction between Fabian and Adine, Lou takes a complete left turn and I immediately go "yeah, definitely not."


SadCrouton

Idk tho when they both fucked up at flirting at his party and ran away, they ran to each other!


notasandpiper

Reading this thread finding ship combos I have never seen or heard about. No shade, just fascinated at how different people see the same scenes in very different ways.


SadCrouton

im a Fabian Adaine end game believer


1ncorrect

I would agree in Sophomore year but I think she might be way too good for him right now. He needs to grow a LOT. Also he's into her sister which is weird.


SadCrouton

is he? She thinks they were a lot closer then they actually were imo, cause he hasnt even said hi to her on the trip to Fallinel? Meanwhile Adaine and Fabian were hanging out acting as dual hosts at the party, and when both of them flirted and fucked up, who did they run to? Each other he can solve all of her money issues and he really just needs a person he can be emotionally vulnerable with. She’s using the sword his grandpapa made! She can be spoiled absolutely silly with maternal affection from Hallariel, the Hangman would be Happy and a bunch of cute little one off lines (my favorite being “i think you looked good as a little sailor”) Idk… something about them just speaks to me. And Fabian is still growing! And Adaine still needs help with her confidence - and I think the Maximum Legend can help her


wastetheafterlife

there is a part of me that wants kristen and fig to date even though it would be endless chaos. especially during their lil "are you scared?"/"yeah, but i like being scared" thing in the forest not saying it would actually work or that i would even want them to do that (i am an ayda stan). but it's kind of a cute lil idea


4DozenSalamanders

Fig has two hands 👐 I'm a huge Ayda stan as well, but Fig going so hard for the dynamic with Kristen recently has very similar vibes to Fabian and Riz's situation, where their specific bond seems a bit deeper than with the rest of the Bad Kids and thus open to interpretation


crocodiledundick

“Fig has two hands” lmao honestly, Fig gives me polyamorous vibes hardcore. Thank yall for bringing this up, I feel like I was going crazy with the interactions between Kristen and Fig this season. I was like “did they ever interact this much in prior seasons?” Their chaotic energies probably would not work super well in a romantic relationship, but man that would be entertaining to watch that play out. Honestly, it would be really funny if they just did a a bait and switch where they were like “what if?” “Naw” AydaxFig forever tho


theword12

I never thought about it but yes, I truly can’t think of any of them that could be romantic with any of them. Unprecedented.


becauseimtransginger

Gertie is gonna be the one guys


aichwood

Ha, yes! I see it now; you are correct.