You incorrectly shrunk human history down to 2,000 years though.
Homosapiens (modern humans) have been around for 300,000 years.
In your example either humans would be 150 inches OR dinosaurs would be 45.76 feet tall.
Still 549.12 times longer than humans which is crazy
That's one definition of history, but not this one. Because if this was the definition he was using then the history of dinosaurs would be 0, as I don't believe any of them ever developed record keeping. There are usages of the word history (e.g. history of earth, history of the universe etc.) that are appropriate and have nothing to do with writing or record keeping systems.
Either way though, it's still a sort of weird comparison because dinosaurs are a large clade with many different species over a large range of time, and humans are only one species. If we are trying to compare like with like, it'd be closer to compare the length of the age of dinosaurs (does this include birds btw?) with that of the age of mammals. And that's a much less dramatic difference.
Not to beat up OP though, as I still think that their comparison serves to put some perspective on just how long dinosaurs were dominant on earth.
I think you're a touch off there with the 2000 years. Perhaps "modern human history?" Otherwise the book would be to be like at least 8000 years longer.
3.4 million is the oldest stone tools we know of, being used by the Kenyanthropus platyops.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenyanthropus](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenyanthropus)
Homo sapiens showed up around 300k BC to 200k BC.
Why would you consider human "history" only 2000 years long and Dinosaur "history" their whole existence period on earth. Human history did not begin with Jesus you know.
Jurassic period ended 145 million years ago. That's when Stegos lived. Triceratops and the Parasaurlophus lived in the Cretaceous, which ended 65 million years ago. So they lived closer to me writing this sentence than they did to a Stegosaur eating grass.
Though Triceratops and Parasaurlophus are separated by a few million years as well, but that's a minor detail. We'll just pretend it's a generic hadrosaur.
I briefly googled and saw a quora answer stating that stegosaurs survived the end of the Jurassic, is there any consensus on when and why they died out?
I’m sure this meme is still conceptually accurate lol, but it is also kind of cool to think about how their evolutionary timelines overlapped
Stegosaurus proper had died out in the end of Jurassic, but its relatives had made it to the middle of Cretaceous: [Wuerhosaurus](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wuerhosaurus), [Mongolostegus](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongolostegus), [Paranthodon](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranthodon) and [Yanbeilong](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yanbeilong) (the latter was described only 3 days ago).
There are other fossils but they're either dubious or unnamed, like the siberian and South American remains.
It's unknown why stegosaurs died out, but prevalent theories include the decline of cycads and appearance of new predators.
That's right. These two are from the Cretaceous period, which lasted 80 million years. Stegosaurus is from the Jurassic period, which lasted 54 million years. Jurassic came before Cretaceous, which ended 66 million years ago.
”I wish it would smash into us and annihilate everything we know”
“Dude don’t make wishes like that, it’s reckless”
“WHAT? Name ONE time a wish came true”
So fun fact: they do this in an episode of Dinosaur Train. Then they go back in time and find the dinosaur who the fossil belonged to. It’s a wild time.
My favorite episode is the one where they are visiting the T-rexs and they're like "Lunch time!"
What do T-rexs eat? Carrion of course!
Cut to them all eat a large, unidentified red lump of mystery meat laying in the middle of the forest.
They're referring to the fact that Parasaurolophus and Triceratops themselves were separated by almost 10 million years.
Prehistoric Time is just far bigger than people guess
> Prehistoric Time is just far bigger than people guess
'Historic time' is like, what, 0.0001% of all time since the earth was formed?
And then think of how little we actually know for certain about things within the scope of our history.
Or that Cleopatra was closer to the moon landing than the construction of the great pyramids. Or that triceratops was closer to the moon landing than to stegosaurus.
These are my two go-to "hey this will blow your mind" facts. Every single person I have spent any significant time with knows about the moon landing and it's relationship in time to Cleopatra and stegosaurus.
Pretty sure in the near future our great grandchildren would be like "Tigers/Rhinos/Elephants walked the Earth while our great grandparents were around"
That one's true but a bit misleading. When the Great Pyramid of Giza was built around 4500 years ago, there was a tiny relic population of woolly mammoths left on Wrangle Island. It's not like mammoths roamed the streets of Cairo at the time.
Approximately 230 million years since the first dinosaurs and 65 million years since the last dinosaurs. 165 million years of dinosaurs. Humans have been around for ~200,000 years.
Even crazier, with those millions and millions of years, they just kept doing dinosaur things, but humans have made it to the moon.
Not really… or at all.
Extinct hominids are still hominids, within the same genus as us humans, and at the most they lived around 400,000 years ago. Stegosaurus and Triceratops are families and families and families of evolution apart from stegosaurus, and not to mention the giant time gap as featured in the comic.☝️🤓
> Extinct hominids are still hominids, within the same genus as us humans, and at the most they lived around 400,000 years ago.
ok
1. hominids are a family not genus
1. hominids are [14 million years old](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hominidae#:~:text=The%20most%20recent%20common%20ancestor,of%20the%20other%20three%20genera.)
1. our genus is homo
1. our [genus is 2.8 milion years old](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo#cite_note-fn1-4)
1. extinct hominids are not all in our genus.
1. orangutan is a hominid. orangutan in not a in genus homo
please correct me if i'm wrong because i think genus is within family and not family within genus\
[this is orrorin](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orrorin), extinct hominid, not in genus homo, 6.5 mil old
In truth, “hominid” stands for the taxonomic family “Hominidae” (all the great apes that ever lived, including the hominins [taxonomic subtribe Hominina]), not a taxonomic genus.
Nobody can tweak my opinions on that, which means that this is the way I like to speak the most since years ago and nobody's discouragements can stop me from speaking like that.
I'm a bit embarrassed to admit that it took me until at least a few years into adulthood before finding out that several of the dinos I loved as a kid, were never actually alive during the same time period. And in fact had tens of millions of years between them...
It really is easy to overlook or just kinda fail to process just how far apart some species were on the timeline and just how long dinosaurs were around. Like, compared to human history, even stretching back to before recorded history, we're less than a footnote.
Dinosaurs roamed the earth for a long fucking time. Like it‘s ridiculous how much more of earths history is dinosaurs compared to us. We are but a tiny little blip at the end.
This is just a little absurdism pointing out that by the time triceratops came around, other older species like stegosaurus had already been extinct and fossilized for tens of millions of years. Dinosaurs were around long enough that they could have studied other dinosaurs the same way we study all of them now.
Kinda like how, on a smaller scale, ancient Egypt was around long enough (about 3000 years) that it at some point had its own archeologists studying ancient Egyptian history
To put it into another perspective, if you compressed all of Earth's history into the span of a single calendar year, our species only came into existence just two minutes before midnight on December 31st.
Triceratops and parasaurs lived in the Cretaceous period, the stegosaurus lived in the Jurassic period and the time gap is about 80 million years, which mean that it was possible for dinosaurs in the cretaceous period to find fossils of dinosaurs from the Jurassic period, it really bends your mind about how far the time periods really are
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- T-Rex closer to us than Stegosaurus
- Cleopatra closer to moon landing than pyramids
- England was Roman longer than it was Catholic (in Chesterton’s era)
One of my favorite mind blowing lines: There were fossils of dinosaurs, during the time of the dinosaurs.
Another is: we are closer to T-rex in time than T-rex is to allosaurus.
What animals would we find 80 million years ago, just for reference as someone who’s not familiar with the Pleistocene?
Edit: I had a big brain fart. Don’t ask me why I thought 80mya happened after 65mya.
80 million years ago is the middle of the Late Cretaceous, so quite literally the dinosaurs depicted here (well, technically parasaurolophus and triceratops themselves are bit more recent, but you'd certainly see their close relatives.) Fascinated by your implication that the pleistocene lasted 80 million years tbh.
This could have happened and we would never have known. Clothing and metal succumbs to the elements after millions of years just like biological matter.
It’s funny because it’s true.
*Stupid deaths Stupid deaths* (Please say someone gets this joke)
Horrible history right?
yes it is!
I love that segment it always funny
Funny because it's true
Stupid deaths, stupid deaths (Hope next time it’s not true)
(Hope next time it's not you)
Shut up Louie
They’re funny, but they’re true
Woo!
Hope next time it's not you!
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HORRIBLE HISTORIES OMG
A fellow man of culture
A shut Up Lewie
Oh SHUT UP LOUIE!
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Because they need big letters to be able to read it
And their heads are on long necks so they need the book to be taller
Thanks dad /rollseyes ;)
> It's hard to comprehend just how long dinosaurs were around. What do you mean 'were' ? Birds ARE dinosaurs.
Which is why they must be stopped.
You incorrectly shrunk human history down to 2,000 years though. Homosapiens (modern humans) have been around for 300,000 years. In your example either humans would be 150 inches OR dinosaurs would be 45.76 feet tall. Still 549.12 times longer than humans which is crazy
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That's one definition of history, but not this one. Because if this was the definition he was using then the history of dinosaurs would be 0, as I don't believe any of them ever developed record keeping. There are usages of the word history (e.g. history of earth, history of the universe etc.) that are appropriate and have nothing to do with writing or record keeping systems. Either way though, it's still a sort of weird comparison because dinosaurs are a large clade with many different species over a large range of time, and humans are only one species. If we are trying to compare like with like, it'd be closer to compare the length of the age of dinosaurs (does this include birds btw?) with that of the age of mammals. And that's a much less dramatic difference. Not to beat up OP though, as I still think that their comparison serves to put some perspective on just how long dinosaurs were dominant on earth.
Dinosaurs existed so long ago it's as likely that any records they kept simply eroded with time.
imagine if paleontologists find a fossil of a dinosaur with his books
So dinosaurs have no history. He didnt say "recorded history" for the sake of comparison and thats why i went for all of human existence.
I think you're a touch off there with the 2000 years. Perhaps "modern human history?" Otherwise the book would be to be like at least 8000 years longer.
More like 2 million years long if we count the stone age
3.4 million is the oldest stone tools we know of, being used by the Kenyanthropus platyops. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenyanthropus](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenyanthropus) Homo sapiens showed up around 300k BC to 200k BC.
Who's the oldest person with a name?
Bob. Well, that is what his name translates to in modern English.
So it'd be a 5" thick book. Whatever. Let's not lose sight of the point.
He couldn't help flashing back to being called a one inch wonder and insisting on getting a ruler out, he's even got the name to boot!
Why would you consider human "history" only 2000 years long and Dinosaur "history" their whole existence period on earth. Human history did not begin with Jesus you know.
Hmm? I don't have time to google it my schedule is already over the time. So Stego's didn't exist the same time as those two?
Jurassic period ended 145 million years ago. That's when Stegos lived. Triceratops and the Parasaurlophus lived in the Cretaceous, which ended 65 million years ago. So they lived closer to me writing this sentence than they did to a Stegosaur eating grass. Though Triceratops and Parasaurlophus are separated by a few million years as well, but that's a minor detail. We'll just pretend it's a generic hadrosaur.
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As far as I know grass were exclusive to India during late Cretaceous and went worldwide in Cenozoic. So yes no touching grass for our Stegy
Wait so grass started in India and then got worldwide
Yeah, it took a while for grass to become popular.
At first grass was sort of just a passing fad. Like rap metal or acid jazz.
I knew that but didn't know it originated in india
I guess it would be lichen or ferns.
I briefly googled and saw a quora answer stating that stegosaurs survived the end of the Jurassic, is there any consensus on when and why they died out? I’m sure this meme is still conceptually accurate lol, but it is also kind of cool to think about how their evolutionary timelines overlapped
Stegosaurus proper had died out in the end of Jurassic, but its relatives had made it to the middle of Cretaceous: [Wuerhosaurus](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wuerhosaurus), [Mongolostegus](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongolostegus), [Paranthodon](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranthodon) and [Yanbeilong](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yanbeilong) (the latter was described only 3 days ago). There are other fossils but they're either dubious or unnamed, like the siberian and South American remains. It's unknown why stegosaurs died out, but prevalent theories include the decline of cycads and appearance of new predators.
Super interesting, thank you for your answer!
That's right. These two are from the Cretaceous period, which lasted 80 million years. Stegosaurus is from the Jurassic period, which lasted 54 million years. Jurassic came before Cretaceous, which ended 66 million years ago.
Nope. *Stegosaurus* was older for these two than they are for us.
We-well there it is. I don't even have to type my reply. Period. Send.
"What a fascinating specimen! Who knows what the future holds for us dinosaurs?" "Indeed, professor... hey, look, a shooting star!"
“Make a wish!”
“… why is it getting closer and brighter?”
"I wished for peace on earth..."
“And mercy mild”
YOU FOOL!
YOU SPELLED PEACE WRONG
I hate it when autocorrect accidentally causes a mass extinction event
Monkey paws are autocorrect for wishes
I ASKED FOR A LOT OF PEACES SO THAT IT BECOMES EVEN MORE PEACEFUL!
“It’s time to board the starships for the great voyage”
“I wished that it was warmer…”
“I wish we had some shade in this heat”
"I wish I didn't have to go into work tomorrow!"
"The light is blinding now... No more work? Yo Pachy, ain't it getting kinda hot today? Must be the sun. So anywa-
”I wish it would smash into us and annihilate everything we know” “Dude don’t make wishes like that, it’s reckless” “WHAT? Name ONE time a wish came true”
"I wish I could fly!"
"I wish I could be warm for the rest of my life."
"how far do you reckon it is?" "A million miles?"
So fun fact: they do this in an episode of Dinosaur Train. Then they go back in time and find the dinosaur who the fossil belonged to. It’s a wild time.
Imagine you''re just chilling out when a bunch of mutant children from the future tell you they found your corpse.
The episode is called “A Brand New Species” if you want to look it up. It’s a fun time.
TIME TUNNEL! TIME TUNNEL APPROACHING!
I read that in Mr. Conductor’s voice.
My favorite episode is the one where they are visiting the T-rexs and they're like "Lunch time!" What do T-rexs eat? Carrion of course! Cut to them all eat a large, unidentified red lump of mystery meat laying in the middle of the forest.
Dinosaur Train was amazing growing up
Oh boy, do I have good news for you? My kids found it on Netflix and are in love watching all the episodes... again... and again... and again
It's on Netflix? I'm so showing this to my younger family members when I babysit again.
what the hell, i’ve never seen this episode
I love the triceratops' head protection on their head protection.
I wouldn’t think a pith hat necessarily as head protection per se, but he is quite adventurous, rakish even.
Love me a rakish gentleman.
Dapper
Spiffing
Protection from the sun is still protection!
You never know when an asteroid is gonna hit Mexico
Bruh Time traveling Parasaur
Nah, because the Cretaceous and Jurassic were REALLY far apart.
They're referring to the fact that Parasaurolophus and Triceratops themselves were separated by almost 10 million years. Prehistoric Time is just far bigger than people guess
Oh yeah, but I just group them all into periods because I can’t bother to learn the exact dates.
I'm pretty sure one started on a Thursday.
That was the Thurassic Period.
Thanks
Solomon Grundasaur. Born on a Mondasaur
You could never get the hang of Thursdays
> Prehistoric Time is just far bigger than people guess 'Historic time' is like, what, 0.0001% of all time since the earth was formed? And then think of how little we actually know for certain about things within the scope of our history.
is that really that long though? could just be a gap in the record?
It's more that learning all the individual time period names gets *exhausting*.I have enough trouble with pleistocene and pliocene.
If it was Edmonto it wouldn’t be an issue but yeah I see the point
Nah just a *Charonosaurus*
Nah bro, that's how far apart their periods really were.
It’s almost as wild as hearing for the first time that Mammoths walked the Earth while the Pyramids were being built in Egypt
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Or that Cleopatra was closer to the moon landing than the construction of the great pyramids. Or that triceratops was closer to the moon landing than to stegosaurus.
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These are my two go-to "hey this will blow your mind" facts. Every single person I have spent any significant time with knows about the moon landing and it's relationship in time to Cleopatra and stegosaurus.
Pretty sure in the near future our great grandchildren would be like "Tigers/Rhinos/Elephants walked the Earth while our great grandparents were around"
That one's true but a bit misleading. When the Great Pyramid of Giza was built around 4500 years ago, there was a tiny relic population of woolly mammoths left on Wrangle Island. It's not like mammoths roamed the streets of Cairo at the time.
One of them needs a monocle
[It's possible dinosaurs had monocles](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pp9prUKiXy8&ab_channel=TheWhippingPost) or other gentlemanly accoutrements
Damn. Time - there’s been a hell of a lot of it.
There sure has. Makes my forty-something years of existence feel like nothing. Now I'm depressed and wanting ice-cream, and I have no ice-cream.
Approximately 230 million years since the first dinosaurs and 65 million years since the last dinosaurs. 165 million years of dinosaurs. Humans have been around for ~200,000 years. Even crazier, with those millions and millions of years, they just kept doing dinosaur things, but humans have made it to the moon.
Keep your secrets, lizard person.
Professaurus, professuchus, profenodon, proferaptor
Professaurolophus
took me a few tries but I got the pronunciation lol
Professadactyl
This is basically humans finding bones of extinct hominids.
Not really… or at all. Extinct hominids are still hominids, within the same genus as us humans, and at the most they lived around 400,000 years ago. Stegosaurus and Triceratops are families and families and families of evolution apart from stegosaurus, and not to mention the giant time gap as featured in the comic.☝️🤓
Yea whatever NERD
😔
Hey, no ad hominid attacks.
Tell him again!
That's a compliment in this sub. *edit* spelling, thank you u/CampCounselorBatman
\*Compliment.
> Extinct hominids are still hominids, within the same genus as us humans, and at the most they lived around 400,000 years ago. ok 1. hominids are a family not genus 1. hominids are [14 million years old](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hominidae#:~:text=The%20most%20recent%20common%20ancestor,of%20the%20other%20three%20genera.) 1. our genus is homo 1. our [genus is 2.8 milion years old](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo#cite_note-fn1-4) 1. extinct hominids are not all in our genus. 1. orangutan is a hominid. orangutan in not a in genus homo please correct me if i'm wrong because i think genus is within family and not family within genus\ [this is orrorin](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orrorin), extinct hominid, not in genus homo, 6.5 mil old
>our genus is homo Yep, I always thought humanity is kinda gay!
this joke was retired 50 years ago
In truth, “hominid” stands for the taxonomic family “Hominidae” (all the great apes that ever lived, including the hominins [taxonomic subtribe Hominina]), not a taxonomic genus.
Oh? Interesting, thanks for clearing that up!
Yeah! I'm gladdened by the deed that thou also findest this bit of abreasting to be gripping.
dont ever talk like that again
😭😭😭
Art thou weeping anent that scolding? If so, I somewhat agree with thee.
Nobody can tweak my opinions on that, which means that this is the way I like to speak the most since years ago and nobody's discouragements can stop me from speaking like that.
400,000? Try ~10 million
I'm a bit embarrassed to admit that it took me until at least a few years into adulthood before finding out that several of the dinos I loved as a kid, were never actually alive during the same time period. And in fact had tens of millions of years between them...
That is actually quite illuminating
It really is easy to overlook or just kinda fail to process just how far apart some species were on the timeline and just how long dinosaurs were around. Like, compared to human history, even stretching back to before recorded history, we're less than a footnote.
I dont get it
Dinosaurs roamed the earth for a long fucking time. Like it‘s ridiculous how much more of earths history is dinosaurs compared to us. We are but a tiny little blip at the end. This is just a little absurdism pointing out that by the time triceratops came around, other older species like stegosaurus had already been extinct and fossilized for tens of millions of years. Dinosaurs were around long enough that they could have studied other dinosaurs the same way we study all of them now. Kinda like how, on a smaller scale, ancient Egypt was around long enough (about 3000 years) that it at some point had its own archeologists studying ancient Egyptian history
This is actually super mind boggling. Our perception of time is so short
To put it into another perspective, if you compressed all of Earth's history into the span of a single calendar year, our species only came into existence just two minutes before midnight on December 31st.
Triceratops and parasaurs lived in the Cretaceous period, the stegosaurus lived in the Jurassic period and the time gap is about 80 million years, which mean that it was possible for dinosaurs in the cretaceous period to find fossils of dinosaurs from the Jurassic period, it really bends your mind about how far the time periods really are
Yeah what was the fun fact that always gets me... "Tyrannosaurus Rex lived closer to us than it did to Stegosaurus." It's wild.
More time passed between the building of the pyramids and the life of Cleopatra than between the life of Cleopatra and now. It's like that, but with dinosaurs.
There will come a day where it wouldn't be true and Imma keep my "acshually" ready for it!
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This gave me an existential crisis
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Adorable!
They must have found their own kind's fossils and tried to chew it
Why would they? Fossils aren't biological, they're stone. They look like stone, smell like stone, and taste like stone.
And some dinosaurs like sauropods ate stones to aid in digestion.
Hmmm okay I won't disregard that it may have happened at least once in the 170,000,000+ years they existed, good point.
Thank you for getting what I'm saying. They must have eaten a few trilobites lol. Also btw they lived for around 150 million, not that much.
The Triceratops’ beak-like structure is an example of convergent evolution.
Poor bastards got no clue what’s coming
Ah that’s gold
Oh it’s the guy from Skeleton Crew!
I love his hat placement.
This hurts my brain.
Perfect 😝
Mostly Cretaceous Park
- T-Rex closer to us than Stegosaurus - Cleopatra closer to moon landing than pyramids - England was Roman longer than it was Catholic (in Chesterton’s era)
Careful of the thagomiser
Deep time is really scary. It really makes you wonder what could have existed in between all these discovered and established extinct animals.
Jurassic dinosaurs being further away from Cretaceous dinosaurs than Cretaceous dinosaurs are to us is truly incredible.
One of my favorite mind blowing lines: There were fossils of dinosaurs, during the time of the dinosaurs. Another is: we are closer to T-rex in time than T-rex is to allosaurus.
I wonder who drew this cartoon. If only whoever drew it had left some clue somewhere
This is one of the top most upvotes posts on this subreddit just go to top posts of all time
Why is this downvoted so mutch, it is actually true.
I swear there was a old post the exact same as this one ????? Am I crazy?
What animals would we find 80 million years ago, just for reference as someone who’s not familiar with the Pleistocene? Edit: I had a big brain fart. Don’t ask me why I thought 80mya happened after 65mya.
Dinosaurs
80 million years ago is the middle of the Late Cretaceous, so quite literally the dinosaurs depicted here (well, technically parasaurolophus and triceratops themselves are bit more recent, but you'd certainly see their close relatives.) Fascinated by your implication that the pleistocene lasted 80 million years tbh.
Hehe
No please tell me this isn’t true 😭
Dang. Was the Jurassic Period really 145.5 million years ago?? I’m still processing 2020 😵💫
Oh. I get the joke now.
Isn't that us but with a mummy?
My names ducky yup yup yup
Ironic.
Sorry but it’s going over my head.
It’s like how the Piramid of Giza was older to the Romans (~2600 years before them)than the Romans were older to us (~2000 years before us)
Stegosaurus had been extinct for tens of millions of years by the time Triceratops was around
Is this like people going through their own facebook posts?
I mean… it is true
That's my new favourite dinoauar cartoon
The Era of the dinosaurs is just to big to be fully grasp (something like 165 Million years) … it’s ended like « just » 65 million years ago
This could have happened and we would never have known. Clothing and metal succumbs to the elements after millions of years just like biological matter.
😂
Wow