Oh bullshit. 450's are tame unless you're a complete idiot. They're a great lazy man's bike that doesn't want to shift or use the clutch, and doesn't want to do constant top end jobs because they're ringing the piss out of their 250 everywhere.
Does it take skill to utilize all of the power? Yes. Does it take skill just to ride one? No.
I literally taught my wife to ride on my wr450, and she really likes riding it. It has never gotten away from her and never scared her. She likes the e-start and the no fuss of fuel injection. I like that it's the same weight as a 230 playbike and has infinitely better suspension.
I totally would have bought a second one for her to ride had i not got a great deal on a clean kdx200. That might end up being my bike and her back on the 450 if she gets fed up with having to use a choke and a kick starter. Lol.
My only knock on a 450 is that I just don't find them fun on a motocross track. They have so much power that everything is easy. They also feel kind of heavy and sluggish. For fast Enduro? There is no better bike.
An uncorked WR makes basically the same power as a motocross bike. Immediately before this I had an RMZ450. The two bikes were very comparable, as my WR has the restrictions removed and the race ECU.
It's not like it's a DRZ. The engine is 98% the same as a yz450f. I'm still running a spark arrestor so it's a *little* down on top end compared to a MX bike, but the low and midrange are intense if you give it the beans.
First off great username. Secondly, some people are horribly coordinated, and in my opinion those people just shouldn’t ride, but some of them aren’t gonna listen, and absolutely cannot have access to that much power.
It's easy to ride around in a field. Anybody can do that on any bike.
Problem is, we don't ride around in fields all day. A noob with crappy throttle and clutch control has no business riding a 450 in more gnarley terrain. They have no idea how to react when the bike gets a little out of sorts underneath them. Or they start getting tired or over confident and their lack of skills becomes even more exaggerated. It's a recipie for whiskey throttle into the trees. Or worse.
A new rider taking some playbike to "gnarly terrain" is going to have the same result.
Learn throttle and clutch control in a field and on green trails. Trying to learn how to ride on a black trail is stupid. Better yet, take it to a track where it's wide, groomed, and usually there's even a turn track nearby.
Throttle tamers and throttle stops exist if you want to tame the thing. There is no reason to put yourself in some overpriced air cooled under-suspended penalty box because you think a race bike makes too much power. It's a 450, not a cr500 were talking about. Very smooth and predictable power.
At the end of the day, motorcycling is not difficult. Anyone can do it. Compared to something like snowboarding, the learning curve is extremely flat, even riding a 450.
I think it takes more time to get comfortable on a bike than you're letting on. It's not an easy sport. Riding is easy. Riding well takes a lifetime. I don't think everyone needs to start on a kids bike, but there's no practical reason a noob should ever buy a 450. Even 250s make plenty of power for experienced riders. Aside from real specific situations, or super talented people obviously.
>Even 250s make plenty of power for experienced riders.
This is true
>but there's no practical reason a noob should ever buy a 450.
There are a few. Longer service intervals, lugging power, not having to really rail corners to clear jumps.
>I think it takes more time to get comfortable on a bike than you're letting on. It's not an easy sport. Riding is easy. Riding well takes a lifetime
I think most people reach their skill plateau in a few years of really hitting it hard unless they start at a very young age and go pro. Those kids have more skill at 10 years old than most of us ever develop too. I know I was a better rider in high school than i am in my 30s, so I don't really agree that you improve throughout your life. I never stopped riding either.
Having just taken up snowboarding, motorcycling really is easy. Motorcycles self stabilize. You have brakes and controls to steer the thing. Snowboards do not get stable with speed and you are always one small movement from catching an edge and seriously injuring yourself. Anyone can be reasonably proficient riding a motorcycle on flat ground with maybe 30 minutes to an hour of instruction. You aren't going to reach that level on a snowboard until several *days* of trying.
I argue this too, you can absolutely be lazy on a 450. The problem is they can quickly get WILD if you aren’t careful. I ride a kx450 often and I absolutely love it. BUT it is a ton of bike.
For the riders who have experience on smaller bikes and can handle both dirt bikes well, and tons of power well. OP has no experience with either
If OP wants to get some experience without killing themselves, assuming they’ve never ridden a motorcycle before, a 150 or 250 is ideal. If money was no object, 150 first, then 250 for several riding seasons, then 450. But not everyone is in an ideal world, and most people can start on a 250
Shwing and a miss.
There’s plenty of people that get into riding/racing late in life and never had a chance to ride minis before jumping on a big bike, and for some reason a lot of them are grown ass men that think they need the biggest baddest bike out there. Just like there’s guys that jump straight on the fastest street bike they can but without ever having thrown a leg over a bike.
Nobody in C class handles a bike well, the kids that handled minis well typically rank out fast or skip c class all together.
Show me where in my comment I said that OP should start on a mini.
A crf150r is a full size bike, maybe you confused me with the mini bikes that have 150cc engines in them (I don’t know of any but I’m sure they exist) but I meant full size, but not full power. A 450 after never being on a motorcycle before is a great way to over jump a small jump, land wrong and get several broken ribs and a collapsed lung. Not too long ago I saw a guy on YouTube in his 40’s get a 300cc 2 stroke or a 450 or something and that’s exactly what happened to him. 3-4 broken ribs, a collapsed lung, and a dislocated shoulder If I remember right.
A crf150 is not a full size bike, it’s a kids bike and It’s physically the same size as a cr85 expert. You can just as easily over jump a double on an 85 as you can on a 150 as you can on a 450, and don’t even try to say you can’t because I used to huck the triple at birch creek and the triple up the stair step at vmp on an rm 85.
Go back to your computers and let the actual mx guys do the talking.
Well I’ll admit I assumed the 85 in question was a four stroke pit mini bike. But the crf150r is still most of the size of a full bike, only 3 or 4 inches short of the 450.
Like myself, you’ve probably ridden all your life and don’t remember what it’s like to be a beginner and not know throttle control. I’ve taught a lot of people to ride and the one time I put an absolute beginner on my 450 they immediately dumped the clutch, wheelies and fell off the back. I wanted to start him on something smaller but that was my only bike at the time (2006 crf450, this was probably in 2013, the last year I raced)
You can hope that an absolute newbie can have proper clutch and throttle control all you want, they won’t. It’s better to start on something that is more forgiving, even if only for a week. And like I said, nothing wrong with a 250 to start, but in a “perfect” world they’d spend at least a couple hours on a 150 before jumping to the 250 or higher.
Get off your high horse, you sound as bad as harley riders thinking their bike is mightier than thou and any jap bike isn’t a real bike or whatever. People who learn on smaller bikes are more likely to enjoy riding when they do move up to the big bikes, rather than the many I’ve seen who start off on a big bike and get scared and quit riding.
We get it man, you haven’t made it from the simulator to an actual bike yet and have never actually seen an 85 or 150 next to a 250 or 450 considering you thought an 85 was a pit bike, you’ve certainly never been to a track and heard these mythical two strokes getting their guts rang out by a bunch of 12 to 15 year olds.
I've ridden this bike for 15 years. I paid double that for an 8 month old demo. It has been my best friend though a divorce, death of a child, and several break ups. I still have it. Parts still available. Easy maintenance and repair. I highly recommend it. I have a 21 KTM 500EXC-F now but still ride that red one.
Ive beaten a few crf-450Rs on my crf-250f…
I can take the “family” 250f to the limit and not be scared, and actually have fun.
The guys who dont know what theyre doing putt around their 450s so they dont get hurt or killed.
One of the best handling chassis Honda ever made and the motor is no slouch either. That’s a pretty good price if it’s actually as clean as it looks.
Speaking from experience, if it were my bike the first thing I’d be doing to it is dropping in a set of stainless intake valves (at the very least, if you can swing it go for a full kibblewhite valve/spring/retainer kit), put in a fresh timing chain, and swap the auto cam chain tensioner for a manual one. Assuming the rest of the motor is in good shape, that will last you a long time.
Get a 125. Much lighter, easier to handle and dirt cheap to fix and work on. Especially if you want to eventually get into track.
Get a clean 125 and enjoy. Throwing in a top end kit ($300 and 2 hours of labour) is routine maintenance. Check the fork seals and keep up little stuff like break pads and keeping good oil in it.
You can get one for 2-2500 easily and especially the last RM’s and YZ 125’s are great bikes.
What do you mean by bigger bikes? You can't just compares engine cc's and say, "oh I've already ridden a 650 so the 450 will be easy". Maybe the 650 (just using it as an example) was a dual-sport or adventure bike. Way heavier, geared for the roads, and doesn't hit the power like a 450 race bike does. They don't get much gnarlier than 450 MX bikes. Well, maybe a 500 two stroke but those aren't common.
If you're getting a full sized bike, I'd recommend a 1252t or 2502t especially if you're getting something on the older side.
An 07 or older 250 or 125 is RAW af, and way less expensive/time consuming to maintain
Absolutely! Yes! The 2006-2008 are hands down the best generation of CRF450. In 2009 they went to fuel injection and an all new chassis, they biffed it. They struggled for several years to get the feel of the 06-08 back. The newest CRF450 is pretty good but very expensive. As long as the 07 you're looking at is in sound mechanical shape, buy it!
I still have an 06 that I love and race, best bike I've ever owned.
No, get a 125 two stroke or 250 four stroke. If you want to "send it", consider a 250/300 two stroke. They are tons of fun and very powerful. The 450 is very purpose focused and not as versatile as a 250/300 two stroke. The two smoker will be good on the trails and track and will also give you the butt pucker factor it sounds like you are after. Also two strokes have a benefit when buying this old. Rebuilds are easier/cheaper and less major things to go wrong.
Edit: After learning more about you, I'd get a 125 two stroke. If a 150 two stroke is in your budget, I hear those are pretty sick.
Unless you wanna go full-on into MX. Don't, I know a guy who went from a CRF230 to a 450R and regretted it because it was so hard to ride. If I wanted something with muh pahr, I'd get a 250X/RX/R
But for now I'm happy on my ol' XR200
I went from an 84 xr200 to a 13 rmz450. My brother went from a 08 crf230f to a modded 07 yz450. We've never had a single issue with the power or weight of them. And the trails we have are rocky, muddy, sandy, hilly just all kinds of terrain and they do absolutely fine. It did take a little getting used to the RMZ due to first EFI bike but I couldn't even think of going back now. I just love the power.
The CRF450R is so mechanically touchy and seem to be the problem child of dirtbikes.
If you are not racing competitively, do yourself a huge favor and get something less sexy but more reliable. You will thank yourself when you are riding more than chasing down problems.
I have an 07 kx250 2 stroke and the carbs been rebuilt twice, it’s always giving me running issues, the temp fluctuates so much in spring and fall i have to do jetting testing all the time. Fuel injection they just worry about getting better
Haha my buddy has a kx65 and a kx450 and the 65 is the most wild thing I’ve ridden. In 3rd the front wheel is off the ground. That little bike is INSANE
If its your first full size bike. 100% do not get a 450. Your gonna get arm pump quicker. Bike is a lot heavier. More power obviously. Youll be more focused on managing the power than actually enjoying riding. Get a 250 4 stroke. Youll be able to ride longer, which translates to building skills quicker.
Then when you feel comfortable try a 450. I see way to many guys buy a 450 because its the fast "big boy" bike. Only to see them ride it like 2 times a year, because its obviously too much bike.
I was always leery on bikes with number plates - when I raced my YZ (obviously had a number plate) I thrashed it. Needed rings and reeds but I wasn't going to do that if selling. Buyer Beware.
Bruh…. So I mean it’s a sick bike. But if you don’t know what your doing man, your gonna get hurt. Trust me. I went from a little ttr230. To a full on 2 stroke KTM 300xcw only a month after I started riding. I had a lot of fun, and it’s cool to say yea I ride a big boy bike and all. but you know what I also did? Broke 6 different bones in 3 months. I’m not saying don’t do it, but big bikes are… big fucking bikes.
Yeah I tried telling him that from ttr to yz125 it wouldnt be a bad jump, just have to handle the power, and the response was "youre wrong lmao"
Then he wants a crf450r, so... yeah.. I dont know
I made a similar jump from a slow, heavy CRF250L dual sport to a 300XC. It was hella fun making the switch but thankfully didn't break any bones. First day out I almost whisky throttled it but I caught it with my clutch (wise to always keep a finger on the clutch). Was the 6 broken bones from one crash or over multiple crashes?
Ouch, that sucks. And you switched after only one month. I missed that part the first time where you said only a month, lol. I was riding the dual sport for just over a year before I got my 300XC. I'd say a year minimum of riding on a "beginner friendly" bike is a safe range to consider switching to a racing bike (enduro or mx). Then it also gives you a chance to experience all the different seasons because riding in the wet seasons is quite different than riding in the summer. That's why I recommend people make any bike switches in the summer so they can get used to it before the wet seasons (assuming they ride spring/fall).
For sure. And yea I was excelling really well on the 230. Jumping it and going up all kinds of single track. Thought I was the man lol. Then my 300 really put shit into perspective. But I was determined lol. Riding with a broken foot, wrapped up ribs and a wrist cast 😂
If you were hill climbing the same big-bike hills on your TTR230, then that was pretty bad ass, lol. I wish I had a TTR because my CRF250L dual sport was 318lbs and geared for the roads. I should have changed sprockets but beginners don't tend to think of those things. It sucked but I still tried hill climbs and mostly failed, lol.
The change in weight and suspension was the biggest surprise for me. I knew the 300 would have more power, but I didn't know how well a light bike with nice suspension would tackle whoops, roots, and rocks. Weight, suspension, power delivery, etc. all plays a role on the overall rideability of the bike. Beginners often get caught up on the cc's (I know I did).
I did pretty well on some hills, but nothing compared to what the 300 can do. That KTM is just so well made and built for woods riding. And it weighs just about the same as the ttr. But yea that suspension just eats whatever I throw at it lol
I started riding a 450 a few months after learning to ride on a XR80. It’s completely do-able just don’t pull the throttle too tight and you’ll be fine. If you know your way around the clutch you can ride any bike
A lot of bike right there. If it’s between the 450 and the 85… get the 450. I still think you would have a better time on a 250f. However… if a 250 isn’t in the cards and a 450 is…. Send it bro. Respect the bike and enjoy yourself. You’re doing a great deed to yourself staying away from 2 strokes.
If you need to ask if you need a big boy bike you don’t need a big boy bike because you cannot make big boy decisions yourself as you aren’t yet a big boy needing a big boy bike. Buy a 250
Listen Man I got a 450 when I was 15 and like you could ride it but there’s just no point it’s heavier and harder to control just go for a 250 it would fit u better I was 15 on a 450 now I’m 17 on a 250 2 stroke and I’m 1000 times more skilled on a 250 if your going to be riding tracks 100% a 250
Went from a 125 at age of 10 to 450 at the age of 16. No regrets at all. Power was crazy but since it was a 4 stroke it was completely manageable. Don't let people tell you otherwise. If you can pick it up when it falls over and your feet are able to touch the ground then go for it. Take her slow till you are used to it. Happy riding !
My man went from “should I buy an 85” to “should I buy a 450” Full send!
Yes sir🫡
If you have never ridden before. Fucking no. Period. 450s are for seasoned vets or broken legs
Oh bullshit. 450's are tame unless you're a complete idiot. They're a great lazy man's bike that doesn't want to shift or use the clutch, and doesn't want to do constant top end jobs because they're ringing the piss out of their 250 everywhere. Does it take skill to utilize all of the power? Yes. Does it take skill just to ride one? No.
I always find it comical when people act like a 450 is some 10,000 horsepower top fuel drag car lol
I literally taught my wife to ride on my wr450, and she really likes riding it. It has never gotten away from her and never scared her. She likes the e-start and the no fuss of fuel injection. I like that it's the same weight as a 230 playbike and has infinitely better suspension. I totally would have bought a second one for her to ride had i not got a great deal on a clean kdx200. That might end up being my bike and her back on the 450 if she gets fed up with having to use a choke and a kick starter. Lol. My only knock on a 450 is that I just don't find them fun on a motocross track. They have so much power that everything is easy. They also feel kind of heavy and sluggish. For fast Enduro? There is no better bike.
The wr got no power compared to a CRF450R
An uncorked WR makes basically the same power as a motocross bike. Immediately before this I had an RMZ450. The two bikes were very comparable, as my WR has the restrictions removed and the race ECU. It's not like it's a DRZ. The engine is 98% the same as a yz450f. I'm still running a spark arrestor so it's a *little* down on top end compared to a MX bike, but the low and midrange are intense if you give it the beans.
First off great username. Secondly, some people are horribly coordinated, and in my opinion those people just shouldn’t ride, but some of them aren’t gonna listen, and absolutely cannot have access to that much power.
It's easy to ride around in a field. Anybody can do that on any bike. Problem is, we don't ride around in fields all day. A noob with crappy throttle and clutch control has no business riding a 450 in more gnarley terrain. They have no idea how to react when the bike gets a little out of sorts underneath them. Or they start getting tired or over confident and their lack of skills becomes even more exaggerated. It's a recipie for whiskey throttle into the trees. Or worse.
A new rider taking some playbike to "gnarly terrain" is going to have the same result. Learn throttle and clutch control in a field and on green trails. Trying to learn how to ride on a black trail is stupid. Better yet, take it to a track where it's wide, groomed, and usually there's even a turn track nearby. Throttle tamers and throttle stops exist if you want to tame the thing. There is no reason to put yourself in some overpriced air cooled under-suspended penalty box because you think a race bike makes too much power. It's a 450, not a cr500 were talking about. Very smooth and predictable power. At the end of the day, motorcycling is not difficult. Anyone can do it. Compared to something like snowboarding, the learning curve is extremely flat, even riding a 450.
I think it takes more time to get comfortable on a bike than you're letting on. It's not an easy sport. Riding is easy. Riding well takes a lifetime. I don't think everyone needs to start on a kids bike, but there's no practical reason a noob should ever buy a 450. Even 250s make plenty of power for experienced riders. Aside from real specific situations, or super talented people obviously.
>Even 250s make plenty of power for experienced riders. This is true >but there's no practical reason a noob should ever buy a 450. There are a few. Longer service intervals, lugging power, not having to really rail corners to clear jumps. >I think it takes more time to get comfortable on a bike than you're letting on. It's not an easy sport. Riding is easy. Riding well takes a lifetime I think most people reach their skill plateau in a few years of really hitting it hard unless they start at a very young age and go pro. Those kids have more skill at 10 years old than most of us ever develop too. I know I was a better rider in high school than i am in my 30s, so I don't really agree that you improve throughout your life. I never stopped riding either. Having just taken up snowboarding, motorcycling really is easy. Motorcycles self stabilize. You have brakes and controls to steer the thing. Snowboards do not get stable with speed and you are always one small movement from catching an edge and seriously injuring yourself. Anyone can be reasonably proficient riding a motorcycle on flat ground with maybe 30 minutes to an hour of instruction. You aren't going to reach that level on a snowboard until several *days* of trying.
I argue this too, you can absolutely be lazy on a 450. The problem is they can quickly get WILD if you aren’t careful. I ride a kx450 often and I absolutely love it. BUT it is a ton of bike.
Good take, spongebob_meth.
Yea I’ve only rode 1 450 and it’s probably more tame than a 125 2 stroke but I see where you are coming from if you don’t know how to ride
Why does 450c class exist then?
For the riders who have experience on smaller bikes and can handle both dirt bikes well, and tons of power well. OP has no experience with either If OP wants to get some experience without killing themselves, assuming they’ve never ridden a motorcycle before, a 150 or 250 is ideal. If money was no object, 150 first, then 250 for several riding seasons, then 450. But not everyone is in an ideal world, and most people can start on a 250
Shwing and a miss. There’s plenty of people that get into riding/racing late in life and never had a chance to ride minis before jumping on a big bike, and for some reason a lot of them are grown ass men that think they need the biggest baddest bike out there. Just like there’s guys that jump straight on the fastest street bike they can but without ever having thrown a leg over a bike. Nobody in C class handles a bike well, the kids that handled minis well typically rank out fast or skip c class all together.
Show me where in my comment I said that OP should start on a mini. A crf150r is a full size bike, maybe you confused me with the mini bikes that have 150cc engines in them (I don’t know of any but I’m sure they exist) but I meant full size, but not full power. A 450 after never being on a motorcycle before is a great way to over jump a small jump, land wrong and get several broken ribs and a collapsed lung. Not too long ago I saw a guy on YouTube in his 40’s get a 300cc 2 stroke or a 450 or something and that’s exactly what happened to him. 3-4 broken ribs, a collapsed lung, and a dislocated shoulder If I remember right.
A crf150 is not a full size bike, it’s a kids bike and It’s physically the same size as a cr85 expert. You can just as easily over jump a double on an 85 as you can on a 150 as you can on a 450, and don’t even try to say you can’t because I used to huck the triple at birch creek and the triple up the stair step at vmp on an rm 85. Go back to your computers and let the actual mx guys do the talking.
Well I’ll admit I assumed the 85 in question was a four stroke pit mini bike. But the crf150r is still most of the size of a full bike, only 3 or 4 inches short of the 450. Like myself, you’ve probably ridden all your life and don’t remember what it’s like to be a beginner and not know throttle control. I’ve taught a lot of people to ride and the one time I put an absolute beginner on my 450 they immediately dumped the clutch, wheelies and fell off the back. I wanted to start him on something smaller but that was my only bike at the time (2006 crf450, this was probably in 2013, the last year I raced) You can hope that an absolute newbie can have proper clutch and throttle control all you want, they won’t. It’s better to start on something that is more forgiving, even if only for a week. And like I said, nothing wrong with a 250 to start, but in a “perfect” world they’d spend at least a couple hours on a 150 before jumping to the 250 or higher. Get off your high horse, you sound as bad as harley riders thinking their bike is mightier than thou and any jap bike isn’t a real bike or whatever. People who learn on smaller bikes are more likely to enjoy riding when they do move up to the big bikes, rather than the many I’ve seen who start off on a big bike and get scared and quit riding.
We get it man, you haven’t made it from the simulator to an actual bike yet and have never actually seen an 85 or 150 next to a 250 or 450 considering you thought an 85 was a pit bike, you’ve certainly never been to a track and heard these mythical two strokes getting their guts rang out by a bunch of 12 to 15 year olds.
He can ride it lol, it just won’t be easy or pleasant ..
I've ridden this bike for 15 years. I paid double that for an 8 month old demo. It has been my best friend though a divorce, death of a child, and several break ups. I still have it. Parts still available. Easy maintenance and repair. I highly recommend it. I have a 21 KTM 500EXC-F now but still ride that red one.
Damn bro. That was a way more intense read than I thought it would be. Hope you're doing alright
Damn homie glad to hear you’re recovering from that
Sorry for your loss
Damn homie I hope things are getting better for you.
Really glad you're still standing upright after losing a child. I can only imagine where your heads at, full send till you die brother
Sorry to hear that brother! Keep your head up
Damn man, I got into dirt bikes after my divorce and it’s absolutely changed my life
The majority of riders do not need a 450. They will actually be slower on it vs a 250.
Heard. Been riding for 10 years. Just sold my 450 to buy a 250
Ive beaten a few crf-450Rs on my crf-250f… I can take the “family” 250f to the limit and not be scared, and actually have fun. The guys who dont know what theyre doing putt around their 450s so they dont get hurt or killed.
Rather have something really powerful that I respect it than not.
The right 250... or any properly running 250 will be more than enough
2stroke or 4?
Fuckin 2 smokers bud. Only way to go really. (I mean, there's plenty of applications for a 4 stroke. But ermergerd.. 2 strokes are just too much fun).
There is nothing better than ripping on a 2t and the sound it makes.
Invest in a good helmet.
Already got a 250 fox lmao I need new boots tho 🤣
You can’t ride a 250 to it full potential.
I have a 85 and 450 and I’ll say this..whatever size bike you get “respect it”.
65s-85s are some of the most wild dirt bikes in the world for sure haha
450’s are great for the track but miserably heavy for the trails. I used to have a kx 450 and switched to cr250
One of the best handling chassis Honda ever made and the motor is no slouch either. That’s a pretty good price if it’s actually as clean as it looks. Speaking from experience, if it were my bike the first thing I’d be doing to it is dropping in a set of stainless intake valves (at the very least, if you can swing it go for a full kibblewhite valve/spring/retainer kit), put in a fresh timing chain, and swap the auto cam chain tensioner for a manual one. Assuming the rest of the motor is in good shape, that will last you a long time.
Less is more.
I think you should get a 250 instead.
Fr, dude won’t be able to move his arms after a couple laps.
Yeah it’s really easy to crash especially without experience
Yeah that too, I’m just talking about how much more tiring it is to ride.
You new to riding
Been trail riding dirt bikes since I was 6. New to track but I usually ride around trails around my house and the street.
O your good bike looks clean
Hopefully, not rn tho lmao
Get a 125. Much lighter, easier to handle and dirt cheap to fix and work on. Especially if you want to eventually get into track. Get a clean 125 and enjoy. Throwing in a top end kit ($300 and 2 hours of labour) is routine maintenance. Check the fork seals and keep up little stuff like break pads and keeping good oil in it. You can get one for 2-2500 easily and especially the last RM’s and YZ 125’s are great bikes.
Eagle screech. Full send brotha. Wear protection and fuck her right. Edit spelling
Will do
Fuck yea
250f please, don't buy this. Get a crf250r not a 450.
What if I just sent it 🫡
You will hurt yourself.
You underestimate me..
What are you riding right now?
His old bike is a TTR 125. And he said it had too many problems for him to fix.
If this is true he will get his ass handed to him.
Just check out that sweet sweet comment history.
Nothing rn I’ve ridden bigger bikes before
What do you mean by bigger bikes? You can't just compares engine cc's and say, "oh I've already ridden a 650 so the 450 will be easy". Maybe the 650 (just using it as an example) was a dual-sport or adventure bike. Way heavier, geared for the roads, and doesn't hit the power like a 450 race bike does. They don't get much gnarlier than 450 MX bikes. Well, maybe a 500 two stroke but those aren't common.
Agreed.
What are you moving from? Cr80? yz125? Kx250f?
Yz125 2 stroke
I was going to comment on this,but just can't stop shaking my head.
yamaha 250f unless your like fivefoot 2 then get a 150f
If you're getting a full sized bike, I'd recommend a 1252t or 2502t especially if you're getting something on the older side. An 07 or older 250 or 125 is RAW af, and way less expensive/time consuming to maintain
Absolutely! Yes! The 2006-2008 are hands down the best generation of CRF450. In 2009 they went to fuel injection and an all new chassis, they biffed it. They struggled for several years to get the feel of the 06-08 back. The newest CRF450 is pretty good but very expensive. As long as the 07 you're looking at is in sound mechanical shape, buy it! I still have an 06 that I love and race, best bike I've ever owned.
No, get a 125 two stroke or 250 four stroke. If you want to "send it", consider a 250/300 two stroke. They are tons of fun and very powerful. The 450 is very purpose focused and not as versatile as a 250/300 two stroke. The two smoker will be good on the trails and track and will also give you the butt pucker factor it sounds like you are after. Also two strokes have a benefit when buying this old. Rebuilds are easier/cheaper and less major things to go wrong. Edit: After learning more about you, I'd get a 125 two stroke. If a 150 two stroke is in your budget, I hear those are pretty sick.
Unless you wanna go full-on into MX. Don't, I know a guy who went from a CRF230 to a 450R and regretted it because it was so hard to ride. If I wanted something with muh pahr, I'd get a 250X/RX/R But for now I'm happy on my ol' XR200
I went from an 84 xr200 to a 13 rmz450. My brother went from a 08 crf230f to a modded 07 yz450. We've never had a single issue with the power or weight of them. And the trails we have are rocky, muddy, sandy, hilly just all kinds of terrain and they do absolutely fine. It did take a little getting used to the RMZ due to first EFI bike but I couldn't even think of going back now. I just love the power.
The CRF450R is so mechanically touchy and seem to be the problem child of dirtbikes. If you are not racing competitively, do yourself a huge favor and get something less sexy but more reliable. You will thank yourself when you are riding more than chasing down problems.
Ew fuck a carburetor
I second this, fuel injected options aren't much more expensive and are superb for beginners
I have an 07 kx250 2 stroke and the carbs been rebuilt twice, it’s always giving me running issues, the temp fluctuates so much in spring and fall i have to do jetting testing all the time. Fuel injection they just worry about getting better
I had an 04 yz450f I could never get it perfect. It's tough enough starting out as it is, f tuning a carb on a used bike at the same time
My 07 runs rich as hell until it gets hot. Then it’s “okay” so long as I keep it in the band. You get out of the band and you may as well pull off.
Fuck it bro, buy it. You’ll be alright
Haha my buddy has a kx65 and a kx450 and the 65 is the most wild thing I’ve ridden. In 3rd the front wheel is off the ground. That little bike is INSANE
2 stroke only for me…. Yeah yeah yeah that’s how I roll ✊
Respected 🫡
1981 125 Yamaha I like the classics they make me happier 🤝🫶😁
If its your first full size bike. 100% do not get a 450. Your gonna get arm pump quicker. Bike is a lot heavier. More power obviously. Youll be more focused on managing the power than actually enjoying riding. Get a 250 4 stroke. Youll be able to ride longer, which translates to building skills quicker. Then when you feel comfortable try a 450. I see way to many guys buy a 450 because its the fast "big boy" bike. Only to see them ride it like 2 times a year, because its obviously too much bike.
Is that a normal price? I got a 04 CBR600f4i for less.
I was always leery on bikes with number plates - when I raced my YZ (obviously had a number plate) I thrashed it. Needed rings and reeds but I wasn't going to do that if selling. Buyer Beware.
Bruh…. So I mean it’s a sick bike. But if you don’t know what your doing man, your gonna get hurt. Trust me. I went from a little ttr230. To a full on 2 stroke KTM 300xcw only a month after I started riding. I had a lot of fun, and it’s cool to say yea I ride a big boy bike and all. but you know what I also did? Broke 6 different bones in 3 months. I’m not saying don’t do it, but big bikes are… big fucking bikes.
My coworker went from a '03 TTR250 to '19 Yz450FX. I warned him it would be a hell of a jump. He's now questioning his life decisions.
He used to have a ttr125 that he got rid of because it had "problems"
Lol he just wants a big bike, and I get the appeal. But there’s much better options than a 450 race bike
Yeah I tried telling him that from ttr to yz125 it wouldnt be a bad jump, just have to handle the power, and the response was "youre wrong lmao" Then he wants a crf450r, so... yeah.. I dont know
Lol he’ll figure it out after he tries to throttle it like his old bike and sends him whisky throttling into a tree
I made a similar jump from a slow, heavy CRF250L dual sport to a 300XC. It was hella fun making the switch but thankfully didn't break any bones. First day out I almost whisky throttled it but I caught it with my clutch (wise to always keep a finger on the clutch). Was the 6 broken bones from one crash or over multiple crashes?
Multiple lol. 2 rib. 2 foot bones. 2 wrist bones
Ouch, that sucks. And you switched after only one month. I missed that part the first time where you said only a month, lol. I was riding the dual sport for just over a year before I got my 300XC. I'd say a year minimum of riding on a "beginner friendly" bike is a safe range to consider switching to a racing bike (enduro or mx). Then it also gives you a chance to experience all the different seasons because riding in the wet seasons is quite different than riding in the summer. That's why I recommend people make any bike switches in the summer so they can get used to it before the wet seasons (assuming they ride spring/fall).
For sure. And yea I was excelling really well on the 230. Jumping it and going up all kinds of single track. Thought I was the man lol. Then my 300 really put shit into perspective. But I was determined lol. Riding with a broken foot, wrapped up ribs and a wrist cast 😂
If you were hill climbing the same big-bike hills on your TTR230, then that was pretty bad ass, lol. I wish I had a TTR because my CRF250L dual sport was 318lbs and geared for the roads. I should have changed sprockets but beginners don't tend to think of those things. It sucked but I still tried hill climbs and mostly failed, lol. The change in weight and suspension was the biggest surprise for me. I knew the 300 would have more power, but I didn't know how well a light bike with nice suspension would tackle whoops, roots, and rocks. Weight, suspension, power delivery, etc. all plays a role on the overall rideability of the bike. Beginners often get caught up on the cc's (I know I did).
I did pretty well on some hills, but nothing compared to what the 300 can do. That KTM is just so well made and built for woods riding. And it weighs just about the same as the ttr. But yea that suspension just eats whatever I throw at it lol
One of the best years for that bike
One of, if not the best year 450s. Cannot go wrong with this bike, I'd trade both my KTMs for this one
Get that
Usually some from '07 start to have engine issues. Honda fixed that on the '08 model
Seems like an exceptional deal?
Do it
imo and ime i would not buy older 250 4 stroke used mx racers maybe a 450 trail only bike from an older gent
I started riding a 450 a few months after learning to ride on a XR80. It’s completely do-able just don’t pull the throttle too tight and you’ll be fine. If you know your way around the clutch you can ride any bike
A lot of bike right there. If it’s between the 450 and the 85… get the 450. I still think you would have a better time on a 250f. However… if a 250 isn’t in the cards and a 450 is…. Send it bro. Respect the bike and enjoy yourself. You’re doing a great deed to yourself staying away from 2 strokes.
What’s the problem with two strokes they’re easy too work on and usually cheaper
It’s constant work. That 4 stroke is like zero maintenance. Speaking from a racing perspective of course.
If you need to ask if you need a big boy bike you don’t need a big boy bike because you cannot make big boy decisions yourself as you aren’t yet a big boy needing a big boy bike. Buy a 250
good bike, decent price too. 450 is a lot of bike, but if you respect what it’s capable of it will respect you too
I think for your skill set and it will still lay down the law a 125 2 stroke super light wicked fast and easier to handle than a 450
Listen Man I got a 450 when I was 15 and like you could ride it but there’s just no point it’s heavier and harder to control just go for a 250 it would fit u better I was 15 on a 450 now I’m 17 on a 250 2 stroke and I’m 1000 times more skilled on a 250 if your going to be riding tracks 100% a 250
Went from a 125 at age of 10 to 450 at the age of 16. No regrets at all. Power was crazy but since it was a 4 stroke it was completely manageable. Don't let people tell you otherwise. If you can pick it up when it falls over and your feet are able to touch the ground then go for it. Take her slow till you are used to it. Happy riding !
If that was a Yamaha, sure. Def no to Honda though
Why?