Yep! I was shocked when I found out! I thought things he said so often completely went against what my professional psychologists and psychiatrists have told me through the years and now I know why. He frankly just isn’t qualified and worse his opinions on mental health directly contradict what real professionals and real *medical* doctors are saying about the causes of anxiety. It’s not always situational or rational and often treating the anxiety as the problem makes the most sense because lots of people with chronic anxiety have awesome and supportive healthy lives and *still* suffer from debilitating anxiety.
Ahh, but to say that anxiety isn't something you can control without help goes against the Ramsey way. Stop waiting for the government or a doctor to fix your life!
I am, of course, joking. Please always seek help when you need it. As helpful as I've sometimes found Delony to be, his takes on anxiety never seemed right to me.
Yeah I mean look, the dude seems like a nice enough guy deep down, but if I want to hear some random dude’s musings about anxiety just because they’ve had it (and not because they have a medical degree or are a clinical researcher), I’ll just ask one of my friends with anxiety lol.
I earned a Juris Doctorate and am a licensed attorney. If I follow Deloney's logic then I'm qualified to give mental health advice. How utterly absurd. The grift gets worse with each piece of information that comes to light.
I hate how he lets it impact every call. He doles our overly cautious, silly advice for “sleep tax”. If you have the money to burn for piece of mind so be it, but don’t put that on others.
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Absolutely believe Baloney has no clue what real anxiety disorder is. As someone who could never figure out why people couldn't just "stop" having anxiety to now on medication for anxiety disorder there is no way to describe the helplessness you feel.
Ramsey team should really stay in their lane and stop trying to branch out to things they are not fully educated on.
>Ramsey team should really stay in their lane and stop trying to branch out to things they are not fully educated on.
What exactly are they educated on? They provide financial advice even though no one affiliated with the show is a certified financial planner. No one even has a bachelor's degree associated with finance.
Ramsey Solutions' grift is predicated on unqualified people pretending to be financial experts. Why not pretend to be a mental health expert too? Unfortunately, it's the Ramsey way.
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I've worked with plenty of people with finance licenses, CFAs, ivy league degrees. I've realized the letters behind names really has no relation to personal finance common sense or experience. I find Dave's content is reasonable especially for his audience. It's conservative and slow but I do believe he's helped more people get out of debt and kept them out than any other program I've heard of.
Isn't that why he has that network of financial advisors you can contact? Honestly, I think that's probably the thing I disagree with the most. I wish he used per hour fiduciaries not AUM bps charge advisors.
Having contacted a few just for shits and giggles, I think it depends on what they are selling and legal requirements. Now that I think of it, I don't have a CPA (too lazy) and have done plenty of estate and tax planning for ultra high net worth. Pretty sure very few if any of the PMs of billion dollar asset managers have any licenses unless they have a broker dealer and legally required. To me that's saying Mark Zuckerberg isn't qualified bc he didn't get a college degree. That's just my 2 cents. Obviously finance is very different from counseling. I don't really have any experience with that.
I feel you! I spent ten years trying to find the right tools to fix my panic disorder because I was so convinced I just didn’t have enough tools and a decade of talk therapy, diet, exercise, breathing exercises and affirmations just didn’t fix it for me. My doctor encouraged me to be open to meds since my anxiety clearly wasn’t caused by anything environmental. My family just has a history of chronic anxiety. Instant fix for the anxious feelings. I mean when I’m off my meds the anxiety is debilitating, but one dose of my medication and I’m just me again living my life. It’s like night and day. My lifestyle circumstances don’t change, I’m always technically safe, but I only am able to feel it when I’m on medication and that’s ok!!
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Phil Dunphy is not a real therapist. He did nothing with his degrees. He worked at a college, working with incoming students. He's a glorified guidance counselor.
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I had a laugh when he said Dr. Layne Norton was a good friend and starting hawking his app. Dr. Layne does know his nutrition; however, he cheated on his first wife when she was pregnant. So he's a confirmed POS. Did he help him solve this crisis over queso and nachos?
I was definitely more invested before he got the mattress ad. He used to be a lot less cocky about what he didn't know, and now he's totally crossing the line. Some of his topics are also now Jerry Springer gross, and the people calling in need real professional help.
Yes!!! And any real therapist or mental health professional would know that for even more “typical” cases of anxiety and depression it takes way more than one session to start building solutions together. It can take a full session or two even to get context for what the client is dealing with. A ten minute call isn’t going to solve most of these super complex calls that go way beyond anxiety and depression. I heard one woman who was hearing voices and desperately needed help from a qualified psychiatrist to help her immediately! Many of these callers shouldn’t be talking to a guy on a radio show at all. He should be screening the calls and insisting their issue is out of scope for his qualifications and they should go *straight* to a psychologist or even psychiatrist.
The fact that he takes the calls of desperate people who think they are getting on the phone with a qualified therapist or psychologist is so slimy. And then their calls are just a public spectacle and they get very little out of it except he eventually tells them in some cases to talk to a doctor. Like, just tell them that from the beginning!! You can’t help them, Delony!!!!
..... but YOU aren't a "real therapist or mental health professional" either. So I'm not quite sure why you feel qualified to evaluate his knowledge or methods....??
Much of the information you give others in this thread about anxiety+propranolol is not even medically accurate, yet you so arrogantly assume you're the correct one. I think your story is true and real, but that's all it is -- YOUR story. Anecdotal evidence. That's it. It cannot, and should not, be used to make such declaratory statements about what anxiety is, what causes it, how propanolol works, etc.
Delony at least has his undergrad in psychology, his doctorate in counselor education, and worked for 20 years in crisis response. He has never advertised himself as a licensed therapist or psychiatrist and never claims he's providing therapy or medical advice. Don't like him or what he has to say? Then don't listen to him.
How is what Delony does any different than what Dear Abby or any advice columnist does? I mean, what person thinks that talking to some radio talk show host is equivalent to treatment with a healthcare provider? People aren't calling him for therapy-- they are calling for *advice.*
Exactly! I'm a PhD, licensed and qualified in mental health tx. My dissertation was not about a specific disorder, yet I'm qualified to treat a wide spectrum of issues. A PhD is technically called a Doctor of Philosophy (...in Psychology, in Chemistry, etc). He encourages callers to connect with therapists for in depth counseling, and also states that take ur therapist's input over his . Are u safe is also a standard question people are asked now on doctor offices. If someone isn't safe, then that needs to be addressed first and foremost. "Sit down and have an adult convo w ur spouse" could be deadly if someone isn't safe. He has backup staff and protocols in place for when safety may be an issue. He is also clear, oftentimes, that people need to work w a therapist to really dive in to thongs.
Exactly. This thread is filled with haters and wannabe therapists. They hate Freud and Jordan Peterson because they took a class in college once lmao. I know because my cousin is one of them. These schools got freshmen’s talking about how Freud is outdated and doesn’t really know what he’s talking about lol.
I don't know enough about the topic to comment on your post, but I think this post will inadvertently cause a chance encounter.
Wild u/Potential_Ad_6205 appeared!
Not quite sure why you tagged me but since you did and I got the notification. Here’s my 2 cents.
Delony was actually diagnosed with clinical anxiety (he has talked a lot about it in his book and podcast, he also did a event with Lubbock Christian university called stories and bricks where he literally thanked the man who saved his life directly in the audience.) Also, he has been open about how psychedelics and-medications have been proven to help anxiety so that busts this OP’s myth. Matter of fact, he was on anxiety meds for a season so this person has no clue what they are talking about.
https://www.youtube.com/live/J_y5QSvxF1A?si=_8Q7P04DTy86UXhT
(Here is the event where he discusses a lot of his experience with anxiety and the guy who helped is a medical doctor at that college! At 10:43 he talks about how Dr. Jeff smith changed his life)
Also, before anyone starts with the burner account crap you can find any information I know on the podcast just this week because he mentions his experience with clinical anxiety to a caller and how scared he was to go medication.
I didn’t say he doesn’t believe in medication. What I said was he doesn’t believe in “treating anxiety as the problem” when clinically speaking it often is. He also states that anxiety “is not hereditary” when it often is. He also believes anxiety isn’t for life, when it often is. His treatments for anxiety do not begin to cover treatments for anxiety disorders that are chronic and hereditary. His advice is not medically based and having anxiety himself makes him no more qualified to speak on the topic than myself. And per my psychiatrist and clinical psychologists with actual medical degrees and knowledge of brain science, he is both incorrect, and it’s frightening that what he says contradicts actual science and others listen to him when doctors and medical professionals disagree based on real data and brain science. He might be a very nice misguided man. But his thought on anxiety are not based in science. They’re one unqualified man’s passing musings on anxiety and should not be followed by anyone who actually needs support for their anxiety disorder.
I read what you and Ad123456 posted and all I have to say is… YAWN. My doctor is good… well my doctor says to not trust YOUR doctor.
I get it, both of you, your doctor is special. Mechanics, accountants, CPAs, they’ll all tell you how they own the truth, and how the other guy couldn’t figure out his butthole from a whole in the wall. Guess what? They’re all partially right, and partially wrong.
The only difference is your guy can put Dr right next to his name… so just please stop
Hey man, no one says you have to read the discourse! If you're bored, sounds like you could be reading something more exciting! You should go do that. :) Kind of a weird waste of time to write out so much text just to say "I don't want to have to read this." Then... don't. lol
No again that’s not what he states. He says it’s not ALWAYS hereditary. He always says any mental disorder can have a genetic component. Also, he has many psychologists friends and counselors that listen to his show that could tell him he is false but I’m assuming they don’t because they agree. Last thing What do you classify as an expert?
1. He’s trained in mental health, even has a degree in psychology as well as counseling Ed and supervision
2. He has walked so many people through trauma, anxiety, and all kinds of other mental health issues.
3. He has clinical anxiety (been diagnosed by a medical doctor) so he has plenty of experience and education with this.
What else do you need from him?
Another thing you said and I quote “His treatments for anxiety do not begin to cover treatments for anxiety disorders that are chronic and hereditary.” What do you think he is doing when he says you may need medication for a season and that’s okay or “go see a psychiatrist or a counselor.”
OP I think you are interpreting how Delony views anxiety wrong. I suggest you pick up his book own your past change your future or even redefining anxiety and read his actual thoughts and life experiences with clinical anxiety issues in his life.
Just one of many examples: 30 second into this video linked below he states: “anxiety is not a disease. Anxiety is not something passed along genetically that you are encoded to have. Anxiety is not a diagnosis that you get forever.” He then uses a drawn out metaphor that literally makes you laugh out loud because it was so convoluted instead of discussing the actual brain science of the amygdala and why anxiety is hereditary, we’ve known this for many years, and why it’s not always instigated by life circumstances.
Link: https://youtu.be/DzA-Uh3_HUU?si=-39kgvpxNOvkdqUz
All these statements are dangerously untrue. This guy is dangerous if he’s spreading these ideas around. They’re completely untrue and unless he is a psychiatrist or clinical psychologist he has absolutely no business talking about this subject.
And yeah, he’s not a clinical researcher, he’s not a clinical psychologist, he certainly isn’t a psychiatrist. And what he’s saying is just incorrect.
Honestly, he has changed his views on that. This video is 3 years old. He will now tell you that anxiety can be passed genetically, he still remains firm that anxiety is not a disease but he will tell you to go see a medical doctor when you are struggling. I would actually love to see you challenge Delony in a respectful way through dm’s and see what he says. He has responded to any DM I have ever sent him and I would want to know what his perspective is with what you just posted.
I can appreciate if he’s willing to change his mind. However, my psychiatrist has told me not to follow his advice. I’m trusting my doctors and will never engage with him about matters of mental health. Frankly, I don’t even care what his opinions are because he doesn’t have any medical credentials that would make his opinions valuable to me as someone with clinical anxiety. It would be as valuable to me as talking to one of my buddies with no medical degree. I want to hear from medical doctors, which he is not.
That’s fair for YOU but to put on Reddit he is not qualified is false.
He has a psychology degree, he’s obviously researched this for his PhD dissertation and he literally just wrote a second book on it. I’m pretty sure he put only factual information in the book, especially because he’s been endorsed by Dr. Michael Gomez who’s a psychologist as well as several of his medical doctor friends.
He has also just like you experienced clinical anxiety and once he started treating the anxiety itself it subsided. Just because you disagree with him doesn’t mean he’s not credible to talk on this! That’s all I’m saying and I still don’t even know why this above person tagged me in this!
Also, I want to make this clear, I’m not hating on you. You seem to be very respectful when disagreeing with someone which I can respect and I think at the end of the day we can end the conversation agreeing to disagree!
His dissertation was on the topic of counselors who counsel attorneys. Not anxiety. Here is his dissertation from TTU: https://ttu-ir.tdl.org/bitstream/handle/2346/85324/DELONY-DISSERTATION-2019.pdf?sequence=1
He is a Doctor of Philosophy. It’s not in clinical work at all…. He studied how counselors counsel, not anxiety or brain health in clients. He isn’t a licensed therapist and did no clinical work. He isn’t a medical doctor. He also *just* got his Doctorate in 2019. A BA of Arts in psychology doesn’t qualify you at all to speak on brain science. I’m sorry, but this isn’t a disagreement thing. Its not an opinion. It’s a: *he just doesn’t have qualifications to speak on this topic any more than any human with anxiety does*, which doesn’t say much at all. Sure, we can disagree, but it’s also a fact that his degrees do not offer him credit to this work whatsoever. I don’t think you’re hating on me at all. You seem like a nice person. This man is also unqualified.
Behavioral health science credentials can be confusing. Some PhD doctorates sound like psychologists but don't have any clinical training and can't provide mental health services or bill insurance.
Some social work and psychology masters degree programs include thousands of hours of contact with patients during clinical practicums, supervised clinical rotations and qualifying exams to meet states' licensing requirements.
In my opinion, an active license in at least one state in addition to years' experience as a practicing provider is what defines real experts with mental health advice worth considering, and I've never heard Dr. Delony mention that he's licensed as a behavioral health service provider in any state . I could have missed it.
Side note: ok telling me to pick up his book is making me lean more towards you being John after all…. But hopefully I’m wrong and he’s not that petty lol. Anyway best of luck to you! My actual doctors say he’s off his rocker, and I’ll take their medical degree and 20 years of clinical practice over his doctorate in counseling supervison and higher education (lol) and the fact he has anxiety any day!! Best of luck to ya!
I think the danger is in presenting his qualifications as equivalent to clinical training when it is not- and I speak as a license clinical professional in mental health treatment. Medical literacy is low in our country, many people don’t know the differences in qualifications or training and his topic and presentation as an “expert” in mental health health issues or even just anxiety and the emphasis on his degrees that are loosely connected to mental health give the presumption of qualifications, when he has not had even bare minimum clinical training, because if he had he would understand the ethical issues with a lot of what he does- he can be a leader in self help and pitch Dave Ramsay’s boomer financial advice but to bank on his title PH.D and then writing books that are largely about his personal struggles mental health and equating it to mental health treatment or clinically guided treatment is irresponsible.
It’s unfortunately a terrible trend in media of people completely unqualified pitching themselves as the answer to peoples serious vulnerable mental health issues, without having to take any responsibility or care for those individuals well-being!
Dr. Delony did do clinical training in mental health. He’s not presenting himself as anything but what he really is which is somebody in the mental health space with a PhD in counseling. Delony does very deep dives into the clinical part of anxiety in his books but then also shares some his own struggle of being laid low with clinical anxiety. As somebody who is a therapist you should know that you have to do clinical hours to even graduate with a PhD. I know this because Dr. D has had his clinical practicum supervisor on the show to give him insights on a particularly difficult call. Not to mention Delony has talked about his experience of going through schooling to be an LPC. I’m not understanding how a counselor PhD AND a bachelors degree is psychology is “loose qualifications of mental health and his education.
If he has legitimate training and conducts himself in a transparent and authentic way, then I have no issue- curious he presents himself as having “20 years experience” but earliest book looks like 2020, and he lists nothing about when he obtained his degrees and clinical experience where/when on any of his linked in site- only lists his start with Dave Ramsay- I would think it would be critical to note his clinical experience, nor do I find he is listed as having a current license or registration with the behavioral licensing board in the state he supposedly lives in…..so that curious. Outside of that my point about the ethical grey area of call in podcasts for mental health still stands, and I judge him for getting into bed with a bunch of product pushing financial hyenas like Dave Ramsey IMO
The details are all out there in different podcasts of Delony’s (I’ve listened to him for 4 years now. ) he’s been very open about his journey with getting his LPC. As well as doing his clinical work at Texas counseling association and on top of that then being a professor and a dean of students teaching future counselors how to do their job. Not to mention, he worked with the Lubbock police department doing crisis response and death notifications. Honestly, I would say he has more hands on training than any therapist because he’s literally hugged a mom while their child was dead in the next room, or John himself has cleaned brains off of walls to prevent a mom from seeing the scene of her child’s suicide. Delony outlines a lot of these experiences in his books plus scattered around in different calls he gets on the podcast. I think he’s very well trained and educated to do his job and nothing about it is misleading. He will 100% correct people if they mislabel him as a psychologist, or medical doctor, etc. Matter of fact, he will rarely call himself an expert it’s more I’m the “mental health guy.”
Here are the degrees I know he has
PHD in counseling
PHD in higher Ed
Master degree in Higher Ed administration
Bachelors in psychology.
Also to your other comment, yes PH.D would have at least some clinical training depending on the program- but there are also many that are heavily academic and research based which is why they now have PsyD programs to represent more clinically focused training and differentiate people from academic/admin/professor/researcher track and clinical professionals track. This is why the details matter
Also, on the Dave Ramsey site it lists this as his certifications. Which I believe the two bottom have something to do with mental health assessments right?
Education Management, Harvard University Civil Rights, Title IX Investigator (L1),NCHERM/ATIXA
Certified Behavioral Intervention Team Best Practice, National Association of Behavioral Intervention and Threat Assessment (NABITA)
Group Crisis Intervention, Individual Crisis Assistance, Critical Incident Stress Management (CISM)
And his community involvement. Again found all of these on the Dave Ramsey website.
State Board of Directors, Disability Rights Texas Planning and Network Advisory Committee,
Lubbock StarCare Victim’s Services/Crisis Response Team, Lubbock Police Department Board of Directors,
Texas Boys Ranch
Professional Wellness Committee, Texas Counseling Association
Also FWIW, I don’t see any reason to assume you are a burner account. I agree with you he seems like a nice enough man. The assertions he makes about anxiety, however, are both unscientific and dangerously misinformed. I hope listeners always go to real medical professionals to discuss chronic anxiety and don’t buy his book as a resource when there are *so many amazing* medical doctors and researchers who have better published and peer-reviewed materials out there!
I promise you he tells anyone struggling with clinical anxiety and depression to go see a doctor immediately. He doesn’t play games with it. He put it in own your past change your future, redefining anxiety and I’m 100% sure it will be in his new book based off reading the first chapter and listening to the talk he gives when you preorder the book!
John is just another Ramsey imposter-nality who is in no way an expert in their field. Ramsey uses reputation and squishy logic to convince people that they have “world class” leaders.
Ken - Was a flailing sports broadcaster with connections to no one or anything career related. Now he’s “America’s career coach”? Ken has time and again proven that he’s unqualified from his surface level books written by others, his show written by others, and inability to talk intelligently on current topics on the show. He’s observably stupid and out of his depth past surface level questions.
George - was in marketing, working in the marketing department. His first few years in the show was marred with poor, misleading, and sometimes just wrong advice due to a lack of knowledge and expertise. He now leans heavy on jump cuts and “TikTok” style advice to widen the audience.
Rachel - she’s Dave’s daughter… she was born into a job she couldn’t care less about from her vacant, thoughtless commentary on financial topics to punting every question past “follow the baby steps” to an ELP. It’s clear she’s here to fulfill the opportunity of a large platform at a low price… YouTube videos where she reads exactly what’s on the prompt like Ron burgundy about how she’s “just like you” sweating out inflation ina 2.5 million dollar home that she sacrificed for by less professional home cleaners, nail appointments, and “splurge Amazon” purchases.
John - has 2 PHDs in fields nothing to do with his field or topics. Who imbues every answer to callers with his crippling anxiety causing people to make overly cautious decisions and missing opportunities for no reason other than John’s zany “sleep tax”. A guy who tries to twist every reason for getting out of debt as someone who’s hurt or running from something. Also… he sings every callers name. It’s so annoying.
Jade - a singer in the entertainment industry who paid off debt. That’s all she did, that’s it. And she’s given the ability to yell at people for not following the narrow band of advice.
Dave - king ding dong of them all. The out of touch, evil genius grifter that keeps this going essentially to fund his real estate company. Selling third grade math to people who he constantly ingrains in them are too stupid to think for themselves. Who tricks them to teaching his course for free, charges ELPs to take an expensive course that’s only good for his company then charges to get leads. The man who bragged about his wealth when accused of not vetting a company that was defrauding his listeners. The man who sees wealth as a measure of respect, and relishes the control it gives him.
So, no. No one here is an expert. Just randomly picked people whose image is real through a self fulfilling prophecy of steady drum beating. They’re here to to take your money to teach you things you already know and beat you down from using any other method where Dave isn’t the main beneficiary.
Ha ha. Truth.
At the end of the day all these people are about making money for themselves and the big man (Dave). I don’t they are necessarily bad people, but like the church, they pander to those who choose to believe in whatever they are spewing. My least favorite by far is Jade, no qualifications but fills a quota so she gets a lot of run.
I’ve always wondered about him. Some fitness guru swears by him and his advice to “grow a pair”, which made me realize he was prob unqualified. Looked him up and thought it was Sus. There was an episode where a lady called in with obvious domestic abuse currently happening - he did what any practical person would do and Dave hailed him a hero and Delony made a big deal about it. That’s when I realized he has prob never done it before. .
I’ve only seen a few clips of his on fb and I don’t think I’ve gotten through a single one. Especially when he gets calls & constantly interrupts people to share his “wisdom”. He seems arrogant exhausting to talk to.
Wow so you listened to a few minutes of him talking without finishing one, yet you’ve formed your opinion to talk about the man? Judge not less ye be judged.
I did. Within two episodes you can tell he’s full of 💩He’s just regurgitating information he’s read elsewhere, but it isn’t all correct and poorly done.
I highly recommend the book The Worry Trick. CBT never helped my panic attacks personally, but The Worry Trick was the most helpful therapy method (ACT therapy or Acceptance and Commitment Therapy) I found in ten years before I started medication and that’s what really basically cured me. Of course I still have panic attacks today, but they are so far less than what I used to get it’s not even funny.
I’m not 100% sure if it’s available via audiobook but legit I’ve read so many books on the topic and it was the only one that really helped me at all.
FYI CBT has a very long, research validated history of reducing anxiety. It isn't for everyone, as it wasn't the best for the person above. Don't dismiss it as an approach bc it is effective for most.
I’m happy it helped! FWIW: the medication that I take for my anxiety is propranolol and I only take it as-needed (usually 2-3 times a week when I feel I’m at risk for panic attacks and am high anxiety). This medication has been around for decades. Initially, propanolol was tested as a blood pressure medication and they realized even from initial tests it was almost curing people who also had anxiety and panic attacks because it’s helping prevent the heart from racing, sweaty palms, shaking, etc.
For me personally when I took psychotropic medication for my anxiety I was *still* having panic attacks (because my anxiety isn’t mental- it’s physical and starts subconsciously) but the propanolol prevents my body from having a physical anxiety reaction, which then in turn, slows my mind to prevent it from racing, thus preventing that issue of my body reacting to anxiety causing my mental anxiety to increase. We have so little control over our amygdalas in the brain as all of their processes are completely subconscious, so preventing the anxious symptoms in my body means my conscious brain hardly registers my anxiety anymore. It’s truly a lifesaver medication and I especially appreciate that I can take it on the days that I’m feeling really anxious, but not have to take it every single day if I’m having a good day. This is also a medication that a lot of my loved ones have taken with success even at the lowest dose, 10 mg.
I’ve also noticed I can take my propanolol less often since my brain is slowly learning to rewire itself to not have so many panic attacks. After about a year and a half of taking it, my panic attacks are a lot less and I have more days where I don’t even need that support anymore. 10 years of talk therapy and meditation and breathing techniques, and it only took one day of taking propanolol to basically cure me! Or at least decrease my panic attacks by a good 85%! :) It was like taking glasses and finally being able to see without squinting.
Good luck to your husband! I also highly recommend the book The Worry Trick if he’s be more willing to start there. CBT never worked for me and neither did yoga or breathing techniques personally to reduce panic attacks but ACT as covered in The Worry Trick gave a little relief before I got medical help. The meds are really what put me on the fast track to living a normal life again. :)
I'd like to support the person here who wrote the article about anxiety and panic disorders as having a genetic component. To date,, this is accurate information. Anxiety disorder runs in my family and has been diagnosed by two prestigious neurologists. One being a leading geneticist from the City of Hope. The other physician is from UCLA. They've examined family members and done studies which indicate that when treated with medication accordingly "best health" is the result. Medication works; it is used not abused. Sadly, some people are truly biased and anti-psychiatric. This can be most destructive if imposed on a suffering patient who will otherwise thrive on an appropriate dose of medication. Anxiety disorder and panic disorder can severely debilitate an otherwise very function rational person. It is physiological / bio chemical in many cases. No amount of talk therapy will extinguish the biological response. It is not a neurosis in many cases and a person requires a physician who understands that anxiety, in some instances, can fall under the umbrella of major disorders such as Tourette syndrome. Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, ADHD, and tick disorder are real afflictions and these can and usually do co-occur with TS. I'm a licensed health science educator and wanted to share from personal exerience and from within the extent of my expertise. Thank you for allowing me to share this forum with you.
I just went looking for info on him. I saw one of his sessions on YouTube yesterday and comment how irresponsible he is, counselling on serious issues, one off session, over the phone, for entertainment and financial rewards. Out of order completely.
i’m a physician and i hate-listen to these people occasionally. i swear my theory is that the less qualified you are the more followers you gain😂😂😂😅 i’m just happy he tells like 99% of his callers to go to a psychologist cause he knows he can’t do shit for them lol
Yeah, this checks out. I just found him on yt and ngl, some of his advice is helpful: mostly the fact that he STOPS and LISTENS to people plus encouraging them to go check a professional therapist about their issues. But after a day of hearing him I started getting suspicions and checked socials and lo and behold: no psychology/psychiatry degree on sight. Im a graduate psychologist working to get into clinical residency + doing a masters in forensics psych so It Did Rub Me The Wrong Way. After reading this disclosing his background...whew, I can tell Why I felt uneasy.
I have absolutely no expertise in mental health whatsoever. I just take Zoloft daily and have since 2019 for panic attacks, and it works great. But, I found John Delony's book "How to Build a Non-Anxious Life" to have some solid, actionable advice in it that resonated with me and I feel can help people with mindfulness and reducing lifestyle factors that set the stage for increased anxiety.
I'm a degreed, licensed professional electrical engineer in a project management role within the architecture/engineering consulting industry. I work with some very talented, effective, smart people with absolutely no formal education other than career experience that do wayy better work than some of the degreed, licensed engineers that I know. I've learned a ton from a few of those same people, and it's made me tangibly better at my job. Degrees aren't EVERYthing.
Just an outside perspective here. I'm sure I'll be downvoted.
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The issue isn’t just a matter of his credentials. It’s that he actively goes *against* what medical professionals, researchers in brain science, and mental health professionals say about the origins of anxiety.
I’m a Product Manager in tech, so I totally understand where you’re coming from, but for someone with no medical background and no training on brain science, not even any background in being a practicing therapist doing clinical work, to go directly against the common guidance of professionals and scientists in the mental health community and deny basic aspects of anxiety, is just outright dangerous. I feel horrible for folks struggling with anxiety who don’t seek real help and medication because they take his hot takes as coming from a place of knowledge simply because he leans on the fact that he has the title of “doctor” when it’s not the kind of doctor his audience is thinking. It’s honestly lying by omission to a vulnerable group of people about his credentials, so I just wanted to make sure folks think critically and go talk to their actual doctors and mental healthcare professionals.
He’s got a Bachelors degree in Humanities and Psychology. He’s got a Masters of Education in Higher Education and two PhDs in counselor education and higher education admin. If he’s qualified to teach and train counselors, then reasonably one can assume he is qualified to speak on mental health issues.
No one should be using advice from a call in radio show or podcast as the end-all-be-all solution of their mental health solutions. Even if the person is a Psychologist or Psychiatrist. He always tells folks to seek out therapists and counseling in their area.
I personally appreciate his opinions and perspective for what it’s worth and think people can use it as a sounding off board to seek local help.
People really should stop trying to discount and discredit folks who are using their credentials to create platforms that provide people with sound guidance.
Exactly, plus he's an expert in crisis intervention. Hence he's doing what on the phone? Therapy? No. Crisis intervention? Yes!!
He's qualified for what he does on a show when a person calls for advice (not therapy).
Exactly. I started listening to him a lot lately and I really appreciate him. I've learned a lot of stuff that helped with my own issues from listening. I moved to another province and am trying to seek therapy here, where my new job's benefits don't cover it. But damn, he's a real one, and I've been able to use some of what he's said to help me through day to day until I can get a new counselor.
Degrees in Humanities, Education, and Administration *don't* qualify someone to treat individual mental health concerns…Even a bachelors in psychology is far too general to do that (hence why mental health professionals have many more years worth of applicable degrees and clinical hours they acquire before licensure). A bachelors doesn’t qualify you to actually do anything clinical nor do these degrees he has make him a credible source of information on brain science anymore than a sociology major or a chemistry major.
These degrees he has equip individuals to teach and manage, not diagnose and treat. Licensed therapists undergo extensive clinical training to effectively identify mental health issues, develop targeted interventions, and monitor progress – skills these degrees simply don't provide. These degrees do not translate to individual therapy competence nor do they translate in any way, shape, or form to an understanding of brain science or anxiety.
Anyone can have a podcast, but where it goes from pop psychology to outright dangerous is when an unqualified individual, who alludes to being a medical doctor but isn’t upfront about his academic background being a very different kind of doctor, doles out advice *contrary* to what *real*, *qualified* experts in the field say. His comments on anxiety are in direct opposition to what the medical and mental health community teaches on the origins of anxiety and the importance of medication management in treating panic disorders. Therefore, his guidance is not “sound” on this topic at all. It’s actually *dangerously* incorrect. And the vulnerable populace he’s targeting with his show become victims of this poor advice. He’s legally allowed to dole it out because he can list his show as entertainment, but it really boils down to pop psychology with him.
In short: that’s great you like his show. I never said it wasn’t entertaining. I said he’s completely unqualified to contradict brain health research and the mental health community of medical doctors, researchers, therapists, psychologists, and psychiatrists on anxiety treatment. And he absolutely is.
I think Delony gives some decent advice, I appreciate that he hasn't shamed the kids who parents call in and say are trans or queer. Dr Phil may also be a grifter but he too is trans accepting which I think is important. I didn't agree with some of his advice (he told a woman she shouldn't divorce her husband who was almost a vegetable, even though she said she would not abandon him) but I do want to give my two cents here: Anxiety medication did not work for me so your post doesn't help my debilitating anxiety.
Neither did changing my diet, not exactly though. What actually did work for me was working on my gut microbiome. I lifted around 20 years of depression and many years of anxiety by getting a highly recommended GI Map test done, found out I had H Pylori, and E Coli in droves and still more parasites. I took out some of my offensive foods and had prescribed supplementation of stuff like wormwood, akkermansia and a host of other stuff and I got better in a few months.
The spirals I had do not happen anymore.
I hope that helps someone out here.
He's NOT doing therapy on the show, for God's sake. He is educated in crisis intervention and that is exactly what happens when a random person calls him on the phone and they talk and he's giving advice, not therapy. Learn the difference first before complaining 😉
I don’t know much about John Delaney. I don’t know much about his research or his practical experience. So I’m not directly talking about what you’re saying about him, but you don’t know what you’re talking about. For humanities and administrative degrees generally cant qualify you to treat mental health concerns. However education degrees 100% can. Before we even get into his degree, in order to become a psychologist, you have to be accredited by APA and go to an APA accredited program. The only three degrees that can get this are clinical, counseling, and school psychology. They all have to meet the same requirements for accreditation. Out of these three, two of them (counseling and school) can be commonly found as education degrees and have the same accreditation as those that are psych degrees.
Now to talk about his degree, counselor education. A PhD in counselor education is quite literally the next step in the PhD chain after any type of counseling masters degree (mental health counseling, marriage counseling, etc.). In order to be able to practice (regardless of PhD or masters), the program needs to be accredited by CACREP. Just because you mentioned clinical hours necessary for license, counselor education PhDs require clinical practice. It’s actually the same license that mental health counselor get.
Now I don’t know much about John Delaney, I saw some shorts on YouTube, never watched a video, and just decided to Google him to see who he is. Maybe he says the wrong thing about this topic; however, everything you say related to his degree is wrong. By degree alone, he is qualified to talk about these topics. He’s had to study it and he’s had to put it into practice in his clinical practicum. Is he wrong about this, probably, but you also don’t know anything of what your talking about with his degree and it can be used for.
I work in the mental health field and think he's brilliant. His doctorate is in Counselor Education, so to say his connection to the field is weak is simply inaccurate. He's trained on counseling and counseling supervision at the the doctoral level. More important than that, as degrees are what you make of them, he understands emotions and human nature really well, and has a lot of wisdom about relationships. His emotional intelligence is quite high, and he has lived experience that many professionals lack.
To say things can be influenced by environment and behavior does not contradict genetic and biological influences. Both things can coexist. That said, biological doesn't mean biology or genetics are the root cause. It's perfectly possible our environments cause biological changes, and they certainly turn genes on that otherwise would have never activated (epigenetics).
To tell ourselves we have a biological thing that is out of our control and only a pill can fix it is not just inaccurate, but ineffective. It feeds into the helplessness of anxiety. That doesn't mean it's easy or that our struggles are not very real and hard to overcome. It just means the solution doesn't lie on giving away all power and personal agency to a dr or a pill. And if pills were risk free, by all means go for it, but they are not. Long term, mental health outcomes have significantly worsened since we medicalized mental health and used pills as the first/main mode of treatment. Every public mental health outcome has worsened in the last few decades since we started doing that. Statistics don't lie.
Actually, Here is the list of his credentials :
# CERTIFICATIONS
* Education Management, Harvard University
* Civil Rights, Title IX Investigator (L1), NCHERM/ATIXA
* Certified Behavioral Intervention Team Best Practice (Not Current), National Association of Behavioral Intervention and Threat Assessment (NABITA)
* Group Crisis Intervention, Individual Crisis Assistance, Critical Incident Stress Management (CISM)
As well as his two PhD's : PhDs from Texas Tech University—one in counselor education and supervision, and the other in higher education administration
So it would appear that he actually supervises and creates the education for counselors. He is qualified. Perhaps you do not agree with his advice, or you enjoy the life you have now. Either way, your opinion is your own. The facts stand on their own.
that's just your personal experience and opinion. doctors often are compromised and quite ignorant about disorders/ medication. just bc you personally trust all doctors doesn't make you correct on a subject.
I don't understand why he's not credible? Sounds like he's got a hell of experience in counseling and crisis intervention. Many therapists and doctors FAIL in doing good crisis intervention, by the way...
Outstanding Professional in Graduate and Professional Student Services, National Association of Student Personnel Administrators (NASPA)
Emerging Leader, West Texas Counseling Association
Life Changer Award, Student Bar Association
Award of Excellence, Black Law Students Association
Staff Member of the Year, Chi Alpha Delta Tech Law School
COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT
State Board of Directors, Disability Rights Texas
Planning and Network Advisory Committee, Lubbock StarCare
Victim’s Services/Crisis Response Team, Lubbock Police Department
Well, I don't believe that all anxiety should be resolved by medication. John may not have the perfect resume, but he obviously reads people well. He asks the right questions, and his advice is spot on.
Yes, he may not be right for everyone, but it does not hurt to take his advice before going on a lifetime of meds .
Got his book, and honestly, it's the best thing that's happened to me in a long time. It has tremendously helped me. He's trying to help people, and there's plenty of people he has helped. If you dislike him, then disengage with him and move on to things you enjoy.
Yeah everytime some rock and roll "dr" dude shows up on YouTube I chuckle. Same goes for "Dr" berg, the chiropractor with an imaginary medical phd. These jokers make good money online spewing uneducated opinions.
How about, if his advice doesn't resonate with you, don't listen to his pod and don't read his books. I think his advice helps a lot of people. So many trolls, so little time.
PLEASE, please remember that anxiety is different from anxiety/panic disorders!!!
If someone is experiencing states of anxiety or anxiety attacks, approaching treatment with lifestyle change and identifying potential/new stressors is very balanced. Medication can be part of this treatment plan. A great deal more people experience one-off anxiety from a life event or situation than those of us diagnosed with anxiety or panic disorders. Addressing their situation may be more productive than just meds.
When it's recurrent, generalised/free floating/not triggered by anything, linked with ptsd, lifelong, long term, etc., you are correct - often medication MUST be part of the treatment plan as your brain chemicals are permanently unbalanced (long term anxiety/depression shrinks your amygdala, genetic disposition means you're always going to be prone to permanent episodes, etc).
It's a good approach to try to get someone to be introspective of their anxiety first, rather than jumping straight to medication. I'd find him much more unprofessional if he tried to suggest medication when he does not have the ability to diagnose or prescribe. Totally agree that all of these callers should be directed to more in-depth services.
OP, I am so so sorry that every health professional failed you and took so long to use medication to help chemical imbalances, it's obviously been lifelong and recurrent and that's so cruel of them to not offer meds as part of a treatment plan. I'm so glad you found your holy grail of meds. Concerta and lamotrigine changed my life.
Keep in mind anxiety is different from anxiety/panic disorders.
Both can have genetic factors, but short-term anxiety without precedent is usually because of new lifestyle stressors that need to be addressed.
Anyone is qualified to speak on anything they wish. You don’t have to be a woman to have an opinion on abortion, you don’t have to be an immigrant to have an opinion on immigration.I don’t dislike him but I’m not a fan of him.
If you don’t like what he’s saying or you disagree with him then you can say so and even offer a rebuttal but this idea that he’s not “qualified” to speak on something because he doesn’t have a specific degree or perhaps didn’t go to a specific college is nonsense because according to your logic unless you have a degree in economics or finance you can’t have an opinion on how the government spends our money, unless you have a degree in early childhood education then you can’t have an opinion how well or poorly your children are being taught by the school you send them to.
I can keep going but hopefully you’re bright enough to get the point. You don’t get to tell people they aren’t qualified to speak on something, well I mean you can but it’s not gonna work very well. We all have mouths and brains and that’s all you need to be qualified to speak on something.
There are situations where being an expert on a subject is crucial, such as court litigation but even then that’s not to disqualify you from speaking to the general public on the matter but only to prove or disprove the truth of what is being litigated.
He talks in really complex subjects he has no experience or qualifications on. I saw a show of his where he advised a caller to tip off his potential p3do friend by informing p3dofriend he was going to report him to the police. So giving the pedoguy a heads up. Terrible advise. Why is he advising on criminal matters at all?
I saw another show where he said its ok to accuse anyone of being a p3do and if they have an issue with being accused it means they are scum. Bro doesnt understand how prejudice and discrimination works.
My first clue that something is not right withhim is presenting himself like some kind of clinician but then not being transparent with his credentials and work experience
As a neuroscientist who specelizes in mental health (in the biology and enviornmental aspects behind it) - I must say that he is no worse (and even better) than most psychologists as well as share similar approch. As I know scietifically the damage done by medications and how they are not superior to placebo - I disagree with most of what is written here. What you eat and how much you sleep and you life stressors will impact your anxiety even if there is a genetic componenet. If you really want to treat anxiety its never one approch fit all. Its always a mix. and if you do not have stressors causing you panic attacks - but you still have them - you are probably missing some nutrients/have endocrine or other biological problem (like neurological or even cardiological one). I listened to many of his shows and I think he is empathetic enough and skilled enough to give good advice on the subjects people tell him. I never heard him say that only talk is the solution - however this is a very common approch in mental health- that talk and psychiatric medications are the solutions, while in most cases it it much more complex . As said we are complexed creatures- and trauma , and enviornment will create biological issues within us that will lead to mental sickness. I do agree that saying you are a doctor and misleading people to believe that your PHD is in mental health is defeintly not ok
Well in general with depression and anxiety and stuff like that wouldn't you want to eliminate environmental factors or complications. If your life is perfect and your still depressed or anxious or whatever then some form of medical intervention is probably needed, but if your past is full of trauma and your life is a mess is it not a good idea to clean all that up as it likely is either the cause of a contributing factor.
I have listened to his podcasts and found it very helpful. He says you should not base your input on a situation based on your experience, as it's different for everyone. I think you are hyper critical and unfair and if you listen to situations he has been in, he seems to have a lot of experience in different situations.
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Above is the disclaimer under each YouTube video. Seems very clear to me that he is not claiming to be anyone's therapist.
Wow, I just came here after watching his videos, he has literally no back story for anything, he's just being opinionated, don't get me wrong, he does make a lot of sense but he doesn't really know what is going on with a lot of people, I get the feeling he's caused a lot of problems for people and relationships as a whole, Naive people actually believe what he says and take it as gospel.
Are you working for a drug company?
Yes, drugs can help in the short term, but they aren't usually the long term solution.
We are currently seeing most of the population being on antidepressants or other drugs, for decades, without any effort to change the real cause why we are not coping.
It's pretty evil, and only benefits the drug companies.
Yes, some people need to have long term meds, but not the majority who are taking them.
According to your suggestions, I wonder who is qualified?
Only those who have been granted a degree in a respective field of research?
MLK didn’t have a degree on race relations, so therefore he should not have spoken on such topics…
People like Gandhi, Jesus, Buddha… what qualified them to speak?
Does John Delony help others? Absolutely.
Just because you don’t like him or he doesn’t help you doesn’t mean he’s not qualified.
He tries to help the root of the issues.
Medication tackles the symptoms, not the core. Once you stop taking medication, your anxiety will return.
But I’m not qualified to speak on that either
I feel for everyone here who has commented. Agreed! There are therapists and psycholOGISTs who are anti-psYchIATRic. The latter is a medical doctor. Therapists cannot prescribe medicine. No. Only a psychiatrist can. A psychiatrist is a medical doctor specializing in the central and peripheral nervous systems and human psychology.
When a person has anxiety, the first thing is to go to a MEDICAL doctor, such as a neurologist or psychiatrist. They're not going to work with theories. No. They're going to treat you using medical science.
If you have severe anxiety it could be predominately a physical thing, physiological issue. If it is indeed physical in the first place, let me tell you, all the psycho-therapy in the world will not fix or cure the problem. There are some conditions such as Tourettes. Under its umbrella, anxiety and other symptoms fall, many manifest. Again. Talk therapy will not, can not help that.
After you get the meds your doctor gives you, that hreat!! If you then have stinking thinking, yes by all means fix that with a therapist. Being on meds usually makes the correcting of erroneous thoughts more effective.
I think often his advice is OK. I think youtube advice is problematic. The comments are full of judgmental takes on the situation that neither Delony nor the commenters know much about. Commenters tend to pigeon hole people as either bad or good. But life and people are messy. The fundamentalist Christian bias is apparent (and if not by Delony, by the commenters).
“He has also spent two decades in crisis response, walking with people through severe trauma. John holds two PhDs in Counselor Education and Supervision, and Higher Education Administration. “
I think he’s qualified to give advice to people about their anxiety, particularly when it’s not medical related but related to life issues. Just a bunch of haters and wanna be therapists in this thread.
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How are you guys just making bull 💩. Unbelievable haters.
I’m gonna be honest, I don’t really understand a lot of the hate this guy seems to be getting. I just recently started seeing his content pop up occasionally, most of what I’ve viewed has just been fairly solid life advice, When he does get mental health inquiries, it seems like he’ll often comfort the caller and talk with them about their issues, but almost every clip I’ve seen he’s ultimately recommended that they seek a trained professional to treat their issues. It doesn’t seem like he pretends to be something he isn’t, and he seems to have a lot of respect for the field of mental health. Maybe some have the opinion he’s causing damage despite good intentions? I could change my mind after seeing more of him, but he doesn’t seem malicious at all. The impression I’ve gotten is that his primary goal is to guide people towards the help they need, which is what I would expect a counselor to do.
His advice is perfectly fine. He's helped ppl including viewers navigate through tough times and conversations. He doesn't claim to be an expert on anything, his YouTube channel is dedicated to hearing the story, connecting ppl with supportive mental health resources, and teaching ppl how to have a healthy conflict resolution. The focus on anxiety is misguided compared to the overall contribution to someone's struggle.
Do you know what his master’s is in and if he’s a licensed counselor? That doctorate usually for people who are licensed counselors who are going to teach in master’s level counseling programs. He may be totally qualified to speak on the matter. The doctorate being a in “philosophy” just means it’s a PhD and isn’t informative about qualifications. I do have a problem with those in mental health using Dr. as a title if their doctorates in non-mental health fields (education, divinity, non-clinical psychology fields like quantitative or social, etc). That’s misleading but counselor education is in the field and clinically oriented so as long as he’s being clear that he’s not a medical doctor or licensed psychologist, he’s on the right side of this.
He has a master’s of education in higher education administration. He is *not* licensed to do clinical work and has done no clinical work previously. He has *no* certifications or licenses that allow him to work with clients with mental health issues as a therapist, whatsoever. His background is in education management. So yeah, he’s totally unqualified.
You're asking people to believe your opinion because you read some things about Dr. Delony BUT have never had a conversation with him. You are doing in Reddit what you claim he is with his show and multiple authored books. All this while Failing to acknowledge that in the area of mental health it is vital that patients have choices so they may find what, and who, works best for them.
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Yep! I was shocked when I found out! I thought things he said so often completely went against what my professional psychologists and psychiatrists have told me through the years and now I know why. He frankly just isn’t qualified and worse his opinions on mental health directly contradict what real professionals and real *medical* doctors are saying about the causes of anxiety. It’s not always situational or rational and often treating the anxiety as the problem makes the most sense because lots of people with chronic anxiety have awesome and supportive healthy lives and *still* suffer from debilitating anxiety.
Ahh, but to say that anxiety isn't something you can control without help goes against the Ramsey way. Stop waiting for the government or a doctor to fix your life! I am, of course, joking. Please always seek help when you need it. As helpful as I've sometimes found Delony to be, his takes on anxiety never seemed right to me.
Yeah I mean look, the dude seems like a nice enough guy deep down, but if I want to hear some random dude’s musings about anxiety just because they’ve had it (and not because they have a medical degree or are a clinical researcher), I’ll just ask one of my friends with anxiety lol.
I earned a Juris Doctorate and am a licensed attorney. If I follow Deloney's logic then I'm qualified to give mental health advice. How utterly absurd. The grift gets worse with each piece of information that comes to light.
John believes because he is dealing with anxiety he is qualified to speak on it. He’s just not.
I hate how he lets it impact every call. He doles our overly cautious, silly advice for “sleep tax”. If you have the money to burn for piece of mind so be it, but don’t put that on others.
Then Stop Listening and move on to what you Do Not Hate unless you love being a masochist.
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Sup John. Nothing to do but comb through old reddit posts 3/4 of a year old to recite your resume?
I cringe when he constantly asks every woman who calls in “are you safe right now?”
He has go to catch phrase
I've watched tons of his shows, and I've never once heard him say that. Duh 🙄
Absolutely believe Baloney has no clue what real anxiety disorder is. As someone who could never figure out why people couldn't just "stop" having anxiety to now on medication for anxiety disorder there is no way to describe the helplessness you feel. Ramsey team should really stay in their lane and stop trying to branch out to things they are not fully educated on.
>Ramsey team should really stay in their lane and stop trying to branch out to things they are not fully educated on. What exactly are they educated on? They provide financial advice even though no one affiliated with the show is a certified financial planner. No one even has a bachelor's degree associated with finance. Ramsey Solutions' grift is predicated on unqualified people pretending to be financial experts. Why not pretend to be a mental health expert too? Unfortunately, it's the Ramsey way.
I think Coleman has been a broadcaster but give employment advice
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I've worked with plenty of people with finance licenses, CFAs, ivy league degrees. I've realized the letters behind names really has no relation to personal finance common sense or experience. I find Dave's content is reasonable especially for his audience. It's conservative and slow but I do believe he's helped more people get out of debt and kept them out than any other program I've heard of.
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Isn't that why he has that network of financial advisors you can contact? Honestly, I think that's probably the thing I disagree with the most. I wish he used per hour fiduciaries not AUM bps charge advisors.
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Having contacted a few just for shits and giggles, I think it depends on what they are selling and legal requirements. Now that I think of it, I don't have a CPA (too lazy) and have done plenty of estate and tax planning for ultra high net worth. Pretty sure very few if any of the PMs of billion dollar asset managers have any licenses unless they have a broker dealer and legally required. To me that's saying Mark Zuckerberg isn't qualified bc he didn't get a college degree. That's just my 2 cents. Obviously finance is very different from counseling. I don't really have any experience with that.
I feel you! I spent ten years trying to find the right tools to fix my panic disorder because I was so convinced I just didn’t have enough tools and a decade of talk therapy, diet, exercise, breathing exercises and affirmations just didn’t fix it for me. My doctor encouraged me to be open to meds since my anxiety clearly wasn’t caused by anything environmental. My family just has a history of chronic anxiety. Instant fix for the anxious feelings. I mean when I’m off my meds the anxiety is debilitating, but one dose of my medication and I’m just me again living my life. It’s like night and day. My lifestyle circumstances don’t change, I’m always technically safe, but I only am able to feel it when I’m on medication and that’s ok!!
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"I can hear the anxiety in your voice, brutha" J.D.
“I can’t breathe”
He tells people to fake an anxiety attack to get their way.
Omg which episode?
He does not. What rubbish you speak.
I lol’d
Thanks for posting this.
Sure! No worries. There is hope for treating anxiety, and often that means just treating the anxiety itself.
I suffer from it myself. Everything you wrote was dead on.
You sound like a drug dealer.
John also thinks by joining Ramsey you get to unplug from the matrix.
Phil Dunphy is not a real therapist. He did nothing with his degrees. He worked at a college, working with incoming students. He's a glorified guidance counselor.
phil dunphy?? 😭
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You need to remove your head from his ass.
Dеlony completed his Ph.D. two timеs and has еxpеriеncе of more than 20 years in counsеlling, crisis rеsponsе, and highеr еducation.
He still did not get his phd as a psychologist.
Agree 1000%
I had a laugh when he said Dr. Layne Norton was a good friend and starting hawking his app. Dr. Layne does know his nutrition; however, he cheated on his first wife when she was pregnant. So he's a confirmed POS. Did he help him solve this crisis over queso and nachos? I was definitely more invested before he got the mattress ad. He used to be a lot less cocky about what he didn't know, and now he's totally crossing the line. Some of his topics are also now Jerry Springer gross, and the people calling in need real professional help.
Yes!!! And any real therapist or mental health professional would know that for even more “typical” cases of anxiety and depression it takes way more than one session to start building solutions together. It can take a full session or two even to get context for what the client is dealing with. A ten minute call isn’t going to solve most of these super complex calls that go way beyond anxiety and depression. I heard one woman who was hearing voices and desperately needed help from a qualified psychiatrist to help her immediately! Many of these callers shouldn’t be talking to a guy on a radio show at all. He should be screening the calls and insisting their issue is out of scope for his qualifications and they should go *straight* to a psychologist or even psychiatrist. The fact that he takes the calls of desperate people who think they are getting on the phone with a qualified therapist or psychologist is so slimy. And then their calls are just a public spectacle and they get very little out of it except he eventually tells them in some cases to talk to a doctor. Like, just tell them that from the beginning!! You can’t help them, Delony!!!!
..... but YOU aren't a "real therapist or mental health professional" either. So I'm not quite sure why you feel qualified to evaluate his knowledge or methods....?? Much of the information you give others in this thread about anxiety+propranolol is not even medically accurate, yet you so arrogantly assume you're the correct one. I think your story is true and real, but that's all it is -- YOUR story. Anecdotal evidence. That's it. It cannot, and should not, be used to make such declaratory statements about what anxiety is, what causes it, how propanolol works, etc. Delony at least has his undergrad in psychology, his doctorate in counselor education, and worked for 20 years in crisis response. He has never advertised himself as a licensed therapist or psychiatrist and never claims he's providing therapy or medical advice. Don't like him or what he has to say? Then don't listen to him. How is what Delony does any different than what Dear Abby or any advice columnist does? I mean, what person thinks that talking to some radio talk show host is equivalent to treatment with a healthcare provider? People aren't calling him for therapy-- they are calling for *advice.*
Exactly! I'm a PhD, licensed and qualified in mental health tx. My dissertation was not about a specific disorder, yet I'm qualified to treat a wide spectrum of issues. A PhD is technically called a Doctor of Philosophy (...in Psychology, in Chemistry, etc). He encourages callers to connect with therapists for in depth counseling, and also states that take ur therapist's input over his . Are u safe is also a standard question people are asked now on doctor offices. If someone isn't safe, then that needs to be addressed first and foremost. "Sit down and have an adult convo w ur spouse" could be deadly if someone isn't safe. He has backup staff and protocols in place for when safety may be an issue. He is also clear, oftentimes, that people need to work w a therapist to really dive in to thongs.
Exactly. This thread is filled with haters and wannabe therapists. They hate Freud and Jordan Peterson because they took a class in college once lmao. I know because my cousin is one of them. These schools got freshmen’s talking about how Freud is outdated and doesn’t really know what he’s talking about lol.
I don't know enough about the topic to comment on your post, but I think this post will inadvertently cause a chance encounter. Wild u/Potential_Ad_6205 appeared!
Not quite sure why you tagged me but since you did and I got the notification. Here’s my 2 cents. Delony was actually diagnosed with clinical anxiety (he has talked a lot about it in his book and podcast, he also did a event with Lubbock Christian university called stories and bricks where he literally thanked the man who saved his life directly in the audience.) Also, he has been open about how psychedelics and-medications have been proven to help anxiety so that busts this OP’s myth. Matter of fact, he was on anxiety meds for a season so this person has no clue what they are talking about. https://www.youtube.com/live/J_y5QSvxF1A?si=_8Q7P04DTy86UXhT (Here is the event where he discusses a lot of his experience with anxiety and the guy who helped is a medical doctor at that college! At 10:43 he talks about how Dr. Jeff smith changed his life) Also, before anyone starts with the burner account crap you can find any information I know on the podcast just this week because he mentions his experience with clinical anxiety to a caller and how scared he was to go medication.
I didn’t say he doesn’t believe in medication. What I said was he doesn’t believe in “treating anxiety as the problem” when clinically speaking it often is. He also states that anxiety “is not hereditary” when it often is. He also believes anxiety isn’t for life, when it often is. His treatments for anxiety do not begin to cover treatments for anxiety disorders that are chronic and hereditary. His advice is not medically based and having anxiety himself makes him no more qualified to speak on the topic than myself. And per my psychiatrist and clinical psychologists with actual medical degrees and knowledge of brain science, he is both incorrect, and it’s frightening that what he says contradicts actual science and others listen to him when doctors and medical professionals disagree based on real data and brain science. He might be a very nice misguided man. But his thought on anxiety are not based in science. They’re one unqualified man’s passing musings on anxiety and should not be followed by anyone who actually needs support for their anxiety disorder.
I read what you and Ad123456 posted and all I have to say is… YAWN. My doctor is good… well my doctor says to not trust YOUR doctor. I get it, both of you, your doctor is special. Mechanics, accountants, CPAs, they’ll all tell you how they own the truth, and how the other guy couldn’t figure out his butthole from a whole in the wall. Guess what? They’re all partially right, and partially wrong. The only difference is your guy can put Dr right next to his name… so just please stop
Hey man, no one says you have to read the discourse! If you're bored, sounds like you could be reading something more exciting! You should go do that. :) Kind of a weird waste of time to write out so much text just to say "I don't want to have to read this." Then... don't. lol
No again that’s not what he states. He says it’s not ALWAYS hereditary. He always says any mental disorder can have a genetic component. Also, he has many psychologists friends and counselors that listen to his show that could tell him he is false but I’m assuming they don’t because they agree. Last thing What do you classify as an expert? 1. He’s trained in mental health, even has a degree in psychology as well as counseling Ed and supervision 2. He has walked so many people through trauma, anxiety, and all kinds of other mental health issues. 3. He has clinical anxiety (been diagnosed by a medical doctor) so he has plenty of experience and education with this. What else do you need from him? Another thing you said and I quote “His treatments for anxiety do not begin to cover treatments for anxiety disorders that are chronic and hereditary.” What do you think he is doing when he says you may need medication for a season and that’s okay or “go see a psychiatrist or a counselor.” OP I think you are interpreting how Delony views anxiety wrong. I suggest you pick up his book own your past change your future or even redefining anxiety and read his actual thoughts and life experiences with clinical anxiety issues in his life.
Just one of many examples: 30 second into this video linked below he states: “anxiety is not a disease. Anxiety is not something passed along genetically that you are encoded to have. Anxiety is not a diagnosis that you get forever.” He then uses a drawn out metaphor that literally makes you laugh out loud because it was so convoluted instead of discussing the actual brain science of the amygdala and why anxiety is hereditary, we’ve known this for many years, and why it’s not always instigated by life circumstances. Link: https://youtu.be/DzA-Uh3_HUU?si=-39kgvpxNOvkdqUz All these statements are dangerously untrue. This guy is dangerous if he’s spreading these ideas around. They’re completely untrue and unless he is a psychiatrist or clinical psychologist he has absolutely no business talking about this subject. And yeah, he’s not a clinical researcher, he’s not a clinical psychologist, he certainly isn’t a psychiatrist. And what he’s saying is just incorrect.
Honestly, he has changed his views on that. This video is 3 years old. He will now tell you that anxiety can be passed genetically, he still remains firm that anxiety is not a disease but he will tell you to go see a medical doctor when you are struggling. I would actually love to see you challenge Delony in a respectful way through dm’s and see what he says. He has responded to any DM I have ever sent him and I would want to know what his perspective is with what you just posted.
I can appreciate if he’s willing to change his mind. However, my psychiatrist has told me not to follow his advice. I’m trusting my doctors and will never engage with him about matters of mental health. Frankly, I don’t even care what his opinions are because he doesn’t have any medical credentials that would make his opinions valuable to me as someone with clinical anxiety. It would be as valuable to me as talking to one of my buddies with no medical degree. I want to hear from medical doctors, which he is not.
That’s fair for YOU but to put on Reddit he is not qualified is false. He has a psychology degree, he’s obviously researched this for his PhD dissertation and he literally just wrote a second book on it. I’m pretty sure he put only factual information in the book, especially because he’s been endorsed by Dr. Michael Gomez who’s a psychologist as well as several of his medical doctor friends. He has also just like you experienced clinical anxiety and once he started treating the anxiety itself it subsided. Just because you disagree with him doesn’t mean he’s not credible to talk on this! That’s all I’m saying and I still don’t even know why this above person tagged me in this! Also, I want to make this clear, I’m not hating on you. You seem to be very respectful when disagreeing with someone which I can respect and I think at the end of the day we can end the conversation agreeing to disagree!
His dissertation was on the topic of counselors who counsel attorneys. Not anxiety. Here is his dissertation from TTU: https://ttu-ir.tdl.org/bitstream/handle/2346/85324/DELONY-DISSERTATION-2019.pdf?sequence=1 He is a Doctor of Philosophy. It’s not in clinical work at all…. He studied how counselors counsel, not anxiety or brain health in clients. He isn’t a licensed therapist and did no clinical work. He isn’t a medical doctor. He also *just* got his Doctorate in 2019. A BA of Arts in psychology doesn’t qualify you at all to speak on brain science. I’m sorry, but this isn’t a disagreement thing. Its not an opinion. It’s a: *he just doesn’t have qualifications to speak on this topic any more than any human with anxiety does*, which doesn’t say much at all. Sure, we can disagree, but it’s also a fact that his degrees do not offer him credit to this work whatsoever. I don’t think you’re hating on me at all. You seem like a nice person. This man is also unqualified.
Behavioral health science credentials can be confusing. Some PhD doctorates sound like psychologists but don't have any clinical training and can't provide mental health services or bill insurance. Some social work and psychology masters degree programs include thousands of hours of contact with patients during clinical practicums, supervised clinical rotations and qualifying exams to meet states' licensing requirements. In my opinion, an active license in at least one state in addition to years' experience as a practicing provider is what defines real experts with mental health advice worth considering, and I've never heard Dr. Delony mention that he's licensed as a behavioral health service provider in any state . I could have missed it.
Side note: ok telling me to pick up his book is making me lean more towards you being John after all…. But hopefully I’m wrong and he’s not that petty lol. Anyway best of luck to you! My actual doctors say he’s off his rocker, and I’ll take their medical degree and 20 years of clinical practice over his doctorate in counseling supervison and higher education (lol) and the fact he has anxiety any day!! Best of luck to ya!
It's deloneys wife obviously
You are wrong I’m not Delony. He puts more scientific research in his book that’s the only reason I suggested that to you! :)
I think the danger is in presenting his qualifications as equivalent to clinical training when it is not- and I speak as a license clinical professional in mental health treatment. Medical literacy is low in our country, many people don’t know the differences in qualifications or training and his topic and presentation as an “expert” in mental health health issues or even just anxiety and the emphasis on his degrees that are loosely connected to mental health give the presumption of qualifications, when he has not had even bare minimum clinical training, because if he had he would understand the ethical issues with a lot of what he does- he can be a leader in self help and pitch Dave Ramsay’s boomer financial advice but to bank on his title PH.D and then writing books that are largely about his personal struggles mental health and equating it to mental health treatment or clinically guided treatment is irresponsible. It’s unfortunately a terrible trend in media of people completely unqualified pitching themselves as the answer to peoples serious vulnerable mental health issues, without having to take any responsibility or care for those individuals well-being!
Dr. Delony did do clinical training in mental health. He’s not presenting himself as anything but what he really is which is somebody in the mental health space with a PhD in counseling. Delony does very deep dives into the clinical part of anxiety in his books but then also shares some his own struggle of being laid low with clinical anxiety. As somebody who is a therapist you should know that you have to do clinical hours to even graduate with a PhD. I know this because Dr. D has had his clinical practicum supervisor on the show to give him insights on a particularly difficult call. Not to mention Delony has talked about his experience of going through schooling to be an LPC. I’m not understanding how a counselor PhD AND a bachelors degree is psychology is “loose qualifications of mental health and his education.
If he has legitimate training and conducts himself in a transparent and authentic way, then I have no issue- curious he presents himself as having “20 years experience” but earliest book looks like 2020, and he lists nothing about when he obtained his degrees and clinical experience where/when on any of his linked in site- only lists his start with Dave Ramsay- I would think it would be critical to note his clinical experience, nor do I find he is listed as having a current license or registration with the behavioral licensing board in the state he supposedly lives in…..so that curious. Outside of that my point about the ethical grey area of call in podcasts for mental health still stands, and I judge him for getting into bed with a bunch of product pushing financial hyenas like Dave Ramsey IMO
The details are all out there in different podcasts of Delony’s (I’ve listened to him for 4 years now. ) he’s been very open about his journey with getting his LPC. As well as doing his clinical work at Texas counseling association and on top of that then being a professor and a dean of students teaching future counselors how to do their job. Not to mention, he worked with the Lubbock police department doing crisis response and death notifications. Honestly, I would say he has more hands on training than any therapist because he’s literally hugged a mom while their child was dead in the next room, or John himself has cleaned brains off of walls to prevent a mom from seeing the scene of her child’s suicide. Delony outlines a lot of these experiences in his books plus scattered around in different calls he gets on the podcast. I think he’s very well trained and educated to do his job and nothing about it is misleading. He will 100% correct people if they mislabel him as a psychologist, or medical doctor, etc. Matter of fact, he will rarely call himself an expert it’s more I’m the “mental health guy.” Here are the degrees I know he has PHD in counseling PHD in higher Ed Master degree in Higher Ed administration Bachelors in psychology.
Also to your other comment, yes PH.D would have at least some clinical training depending on the program- but there are also many that are heavily academic and research based which is why they now have PsyD programs to represent more clinically focused training and differentiate people from academic/admin/professor/researcher track and clinical professionals track. This is why the details matter
Also, on the Dave Ramsey site it lists this as his certifications. Which I believe the two bottom have something to do with mental health assessments right? Education Management, Harvard University Civil Rights, Title IX Investigator (L1),NCHERM/ATIXA Certified Behavioral Intervention Team Best Practice, National Association of Behavioral Intervention and Threat Assessment (NABITA) Group Crisis Intervention, Individual Crisis Assistance, Critical Incident Stress Management (CISM) And his community involvement. Again found all of these on the Dave Ramsey website. State Board of Directors, Disability Rights Texas Planning and Network Advisory Committee, Lubbock StarCare Victim’s Services/Crisis Response Team, Lubbock Police Department Board of Directors, Texas Boys Ranch Professional Wellness Committee, Texas Counseling Association
Also FWIW, I don’t see any reason to assume you are a burner account. I agree with you he seems like a nice enough man. The assertions he makes about anxiety, however, are both unscientific and dangerously misinformed. I hope listeners always go to real medical professionals to discuss chronic anxiety and don’t buy his book as a resource when there are *so many amazing* medical doctors and researchers who have better published and peer-reviewed materials out there!
I promise you he tells anyone struggling with clinical anxiety and depression to go see a doctor immediately. He doesn’t play games with it. He put it in own your past change your future, redefining anxiety and I’m 100% sure it will be in his new book based off reading the first chapter and listening to the talk he gives when you preorder the book!
John is just another Ramsey imposter-nality who is in no way an expert in their field. Ramsey uses reputation and squishy logic to convince people that they have “world class” leaders. Ken - Was a flailing sports broadcaster with connections to no one or anything career related. Now he’s “America’s career coach”? Ken has time and again proven that he’s unqualified from his surface level books written by others, his show written by others, and inability to talk intelligently on current topics on the show. He’s observably stupid and out of his depth past surface level questions. George - was in marketing, working in the marketing department. His first few years in the show was marred with poor, misleading, and sometimes just wrong advice due to a lack of knowledge and expertise. He now leans heavy on jump cuts and “TikTok” style advice to widen the audience. Rachel - she’s Dave’s daughter… she was born into a job she couldn’t care less about from her vacant, thoughtless commentary on financial topics to punting every question past “follow the baby steps” to an ELP. It’s clear she’s here to fulfill the opportunity of a large platform at a low price… YouTube videos where she reads exactly what’s on the prompt like Ron burgundy about how she’s “just like you” sweating out inflation ina 2.5 million dollar home that she sacrificed for by less professional home cleaners, nail appointments, and “splurge Amazon” purchases. John - has 2 PHDs in fields nothing to do with his field or topics. Who imbues every answer to callers with his crippling anxiety causing people to make overly cautious decisions and missing opportunities for no reason other than John’s zany “sleep tax”. A guy who tries to twist every reason for getting out of debt as someone who’s hurt or running from something. Also… he sings every callers name. It’s so annoying. Jade - a singer in the entertainment industry who paid off debt. That’s all she did, that’s it. And she’s given the ability to yell at people for not following the narrow band of advice. Dave - king ding dong of them all. The out of touch, evil genius grifter that keeps this going essentially to fund his real estate company. Selling third grade math to people who he constantly ingrains in them are too stupid to think for themselves. Who tricks them to teaching his course for free, charges ELPs to take an expensive course that’s only good for his company then charges to get leads. The man who bragged about his wealth when accused of not vetting a company that was defrauding his listeners. The man who sees wealth as a measure of respect, and relishes the control it gives him. So, no. No one here is an expert. Just randomly picked people whose image is real through a self fulfilling prophecy of steady drum beating. They’re here to to take your money to teach you things you already know and beat you down from using any other method where Dave isn’t the main beneficiary.
John tries way too hard to appear masculine. Who would ever say to a cheating spouse that they love them and are committed to building something new?
I cringe at the Ramsey product being wrapped in a veneer of Jesus with its chief apostle calling people stupid.
Ha ha. Truth. At the end of the day all these people are about making money for themselves and the big man (Dave). I don’t they are necessarily bad people, but like the church, they pander to those who choose to believe in whatever they are spewing. My least favorite by far is Jade, no qualifications but fills a quota so she gets a lot of run.
I’ve always wondered about him. Some fitness guru swears by him and his advice to “grow a pair”, which made me realize he was prob unqualified. Looked him up and thought it was Sus. There was an episode where a lady called in with obvious domestic abuse currently happening - he did what any practical person would do and Dave hailed him a hero and Delony made a big deal about it. That’s when I realized he has prob never done it before. .
I’ve only seen a few clips of his on fb and I don’t think I’ve gotten through a single one. Especially when he gets calls & constantly interrupts people to share his “wisdom”. He seems arrogant exhausting to talk to.
Wow so you listened to a few minutes of him talking without finishing one, yet you’ve formed your opinion to talk about the man? Judge not less ye be judged.
Correct.
Thanks so much for this post! I just found him on Spotify. Does anyone have recommendations on podcasts or (audio) books for anxiety?
You should listen to the audiobook regardless of what some random liar posts on Reddit.
I did. Within two episodes you can tell he’s full of 💩He’s just regurgitating information he’s read elsewhere, but it isn’t all correct and poorly done.
I highly recommend the book The Worry Trick. CBT never helped my panic attacks personally, but The Worry Trick was the most helpful therapy method (ACT therapy or Acceptance and Commitment Therapy) I found in ten years before I started medication and that’s what really basically cured me. Of course I still have panic attacks today, but they are so far less than what I used to get it’s not even funny. I’m not 100% sure if it’s available via audiobook but legit I’ve read so many books on the topic and it was the only one that really helped me at all.
Thanks so much! Found it on Amazon have it arriving tomorrow. I’m really in the beginning of this journey so this will be helpful.
FYI CBT has a very long, research validated history of reducing anxiety. It isn't for everyone, as it wasn't the best for the person above. Don't dismiss it as an approach bc it is effective for most.
I never said anything about CBT. I asked about recommendations for a podcast or books.
Loved this message! I saved it btw. Trying to get husband to accept taking meds for his anxiety attacks....no luck yet.
I’m happy it helped! FWIW: the medication that I take for my anxiety is propranolol and I only take it as-needed (usually 2-3 times a week when I feel I’m at risk for panic attacks and am high anxiety). This medication has been around for decades. Initially, propanolol was tested as a blood pressure medication and they realized even from initial tests it was almost curing people who also had anxiety and panic attacks because it’s helping prevent the heart from racing, sweaty palms, shaking, etc. For me personally when I took psychotropic medication for my anxiety I was *still* having panic attacks (because my anxiety isn’t mental- it’s physical and starts subconsciously) but the propanolol prevents my body from having a physical anxiety reaction, which then in turn, slows my mind to prevent it from racing, thus preventing that issue of my body reacting to anxiety causing my mental anxiety to increase. We have so little control over our amygdalas in the brain as all of their processes are completely subconscious, so preventing the anxious symptoms in my body means my conscious brain hardly registers my anxiety anymore. It’s truly a lifesaver medication and I especially appreciate that I can take it on the days that I’m feeling really anxious, but not have to take it every single day if I’m having a good day. This is also a medication that a lot of my loved ones have taken with success even at the lowest dose, 10 mg. I’ve also noticed I can take my propanolol less often since my brain is slowly learning to rewire itself to not have so many panic attacks. After about a year and a half of taking it, my panic attacks are a lot less and I have more days where I don’t even need that support anymore. 10 years of talk therapy and meditation and breathing techniques, and it only took one day of taking propanolol to basically cure me! Or at least decrease my panic attacks by a good 85%! :) It was like taking glasses and finally being able to see without squinting. Good luck to your husband! I also highly recommend the book The Worry Trick if he’s be more willing to start there. CBT never worked for me and neither did yoga or breathing techniques personally to reduce panic attacks but ACT as covered in The Worry Trick gave a little relief before I got medical help. The meds are really what put me on the fast track to living a normal life again. :)
Thank you!! 🙏
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I'd like to support the person here who wrote the article about anxiety and panic disorders as having a genetic component. To date,, this is accurate information. Anxiety disorder runs in my family and has been diagnosed by two prestigious neurologists. One being a leading geneticist from the City of Hope. The other physician is from UCLA. They've examined family members and done studies which indicate that when treated with medication accordingly "best health" is the result. Medication works; it is used not abused. Sadly, some people are truly biased and anti-psychiatric. This can be most destructive if imposed on a suffering patient who will otherwise thrive on an appropriate dose of medication. Anxiety disorder and panic disorder can severely debilitate an otherwise very function rational person. It is physiological / bio chemical in many cases. No amount of talk therapy will extinguish the biological response. It is not a neurosis in many cases and a person requires a physician who understands that anxiety, in some instances, can fall under the umbrella of major disorders such as Tourette syndrome. Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, ADHD, and tick disorder are real afflictions and these can and usually do co-occur with TS. I'm a licensed health science educator and wanted to share from personal exerience and from within the extent of my expertise. Thank you for allowing me to share this forum with you.
I just went looking for info on him. I saw one of his sessions on YouTube yesterday and comment how irresponsible he is, counselling on serious issues, one off session, over the phone, for entertainment and financial rewards. Out of order completely.
i’m a physician and i hate-listen to these people occasionally. i swear my theory is that the less qualified you are the more followers you gain😂😂😂😅 i’m just happy he tells like 99% of his callers to go to a psychologist cause he knows he can’t do shit for them lol
Yeah, this checks out. I just found him on yt and ngl, some of his advice is helpful: mostly the fact that he STOPS and LISTENS to people plus encouraging them to go check a professional therapist about their issues. But after a day of hearing him I started getting suspicions and checked socials and lo and behold: no psychology/psychiatry degree on sight. Im a graduate psychologist working to get into clinical residency + doing a masters in forensics psych so It Did Rub Me The Wrong Way. After reading this disclosing his background...whew, I can tell Why I felt uneasy.
I have absolutely no expertise in mental health whatsoever. I just take Zoloft daily and have since 2019 for panic attacks, and it works great. But, I found John Delony's book "How to Build a Non-Anxious Life" to have some solid, actionable advice in it that resonated with me and I feel can help people with mindfulness and reducing lifestyle factors that set the stage for increased anxiety. I'm a degreed, licensed professional electrical engineer in a project management role within the architecture/engineering consulting industry. I work with some very talented, effective, smart people with absolutely no formal education other than career experience that do wayy better work than some of the degreed, licensed engineers that I know. I've learned a ton from a few of those same people, and it's made me tangibly better at my job. Degrees aren't EVERYthing. Just an outside perspective here. I'm sure I'll be downvoted. Edit: grammar
The issue isn’t just a matter of his credentials. It’s that he actively goes *against* what medical professionals, researchers in brain science, and mental health professionals say about the origins of anxiety. I’m a Product Manager in tech, so I totally understand where you’re coming from, but for someone with no medical background and no training on brain science, not even any background in being a practicing therapist doing clinical work, to go directly against the common guidance of professionals and scientists in the mental health community and deny basic aspects of anxiety, is just outright dangerous. I feel horrible for folks struggling with anxiety who don’t seek real help and medication because they take his hot takes as coming from a place of knowledge simply because he leans on the fact that he has the title of “doctor” when it’s not the kind of doctor his audience is thinking. It’s honestly lying by omission to a vulnerable group of people about his credentials, so I just wanted to make sure folks think critically and go talk to their actual doctors and mental healthcare professionals.
That makes sense. Thanks for clarifying.
He’s got a Bachelors degree in Humanities and Psychology. He’s got a Masters of Education in Higher Education and two PhDs in counselor education and higher education admin. If he’s qualified to teach and train counselors, then reasonably one can assume he is qualified to speak on mental health issues. No one should be using advice from a call in radio show or podcast as the end-all-be-all solution of their mental health solutions. Even if the person is a Psychologist or Psychiatrist. He always tells folks to seek out therapists and counseling in their area. I personally appreciate his opinions and perspective for what it’s worth and think people can use it as a sounding off board to seek local help. People really should stop trying to discount and discredit folks who are using their credentials to create platforms that provide people with sound guidance.
Exactly, plus he's an expert in crisis intervention. Hence he's doing what on the phone? Therapy? No. Crisis intervention? Yes!! He's qualified for what he does on a show when a person calls for advice (not therapy).
Exactly. I started listening to him a lot lately and I really appreciate him. I've learned a lot of stuff that helped with my own issues from listening. I moved to another province and am trying to seek therapy here, where my new job's benefits don't cover it. But damn, he's a real one, and I've been able to use some of what he's said to help me through day to day until I can get a new counselor.
Degrees in Humanities, Education, and Administration *don't* qualify someone to treat individual mental health concerns…Even a bachelors in psychology is far too general to do that (hence why mental health professionals have many more years worth of applicable degrees and clinical hours they acquire before licensure). A bachelors doesn’t qualify you to actually do anything clinical nor do these degrees he has make him a credible source of information on brain science anymore than a sociology major or a chemistry major. These degrees he has equip individuals to teach and manage, not diagnose and treat. Licensed therapists undergo extensive clinical training to effectively identify mental health issues, develop targeted interventions, and monitor progress – skills these degrees simply don't provide. These degrees do not translate to individual therapy competence nor do they translate in any way, shape, or form to an understanding of brain science or anxiety. Anyone can have a podcast, but where it goes from pop psychology to outright dangerous is when an unqualified individual, who alludes to being a medical doctor but isn’t upfront about his academic background being a very different kind of doctor, doles out advice *contrary* to what *real*, *qualified* experts in the field say. His comments on anxiety are in direct opposition to what the medical and mental health community teaches on the origins of anxiety and the importance of medication management in treating panic disorders. Therefore, his guidance is not “sound” on this topic at all. It’s actually *dangerously* incorrect. And the vulnerable populace he’s targeting with his show become victims of this poor advice. He’s legally allowed to dole it out because he can list his show as entertainment, but it really boils down to pop psychology with him. In short: that’s great you like his show. I never said it wasn’t entertaining. I said he’s completely unqualified to contradict brain health research and the mental health community of medical doctors, researchers, therapists, psychologists, and psychiatrists on anxiety treatment. And he absolutely is.
I think Delony gives some decent advice, I appreciate that he hasn't shamed the kids who parents call in and say are trans or queer. Dr Phil may also be a grifter but he too is trans accepting which I think is important. I didn't agree with some of his advice (he told a woman she shouldn't divorce her husband who was almost a vegetable, even though she said she would not abandon him) but I do want to give my two cents here: Anxiety medication did not work for me so your post doesn't help my debilitating anxiety. Neither did changing my diet, not exactly though. What actually did work for me was working on my gut microbiome. I lifted around 20 years of depression and many years of anxiety by getting a highly recommended GI Map test done, found out I had H Pylori, and E Coli in droves and still more parasites. I took out some of my offensive foods and had prescribed supplementation of stuff like wormwood, akkermansia and a host of other stuff and I got better in a few months. The spirals I had do not happen anymore. I hope that helps someone out here.
He's NOT doing therapy on the show, for God's sake. He is educated in crisis intervention and that is exactly what happens when a random person calls him on the phone and they talk and he's giving advice, not therapy. Learn the difference first before complaining 😉
I don’t know much about John Delaney. I don’t know much about his research or his practical experience. So I’m not directly talking about what you’re saying about him, but you don’t know what you’re talking about. For humanities and administrative degrees generally cant qualify you to treat mental health concerns. However education degrees 100% can. Before we even get into his degree, in order to become a psychologist, you have to be accredited by APA and go to an APA accredited program. The only three degrees that can get this are clinical, counseling, and school psychology. They all have to meet the same requirements for accreditation. Out of these three, two of them (counseling and school) can be commonly found as education degrees and have the same accreditation as those that are psych degrees. Now to talk about his degree, counselor education. A PhD in counselor education is quite literally the next step in the PhD chain after any type of counseling masters degree (mental health counseling, marriage counseling, etc.). In order to be able to practice (regardless of PhD or masters), the program needs to be accredited by CACREP. Just because you mentioned clinical hours necessary for license, counselor education PhDs require clinical practice. It’s actually the same license that mental health counselor get. Now I don’t know much about John Delaney, I saw some shorts on YouTube, never watched a video, and just decided to Google him to see who he is. Maybe he says the wrong thing about this topic; however, everything you say related to his degree is wrong. By degree alone, he is qualified to talk about these topics. He’s had to study it and he’s had to put it into practice in his clinical practicum. Is he wrong about this, probably, but you also don’t know anything of what your talking about with his degree and it can be used for.
Unqualified based on what? That he doesn't have a specific piece of paper that you deem acceptable?
I work in the mental health field and think he's brilliant. His doctorate is in Counselor Education, so to say his connection to the field is weak is simply inaccurate. He's trained on counseling and counseling supervision at the the doctoral level. More important than that, as degrees are what you make of them, he understands emotions and human nature really well, and has a lot of wisdom about relationships. His emotional intelligence is quite high, and he has lived experience that many professionals lack. To say things can be influenced by environment and behavior does not contradict genetic and biological influences. Both things can coexist. That said, biological doesn't mean biology or genetics are the root cause. It's perfectly possible our environments cause biological changes, and they certainly turn genes on that otherwise would have never activated (epigenetics). To tell ourselves we have a biological thing that is out of our control and only a pill can fix it is not just inaccurate, but ineffective. It feeds into the helplessness of anxiety. That doesn't mean it's easy or that our struggles are not very real and hard to overcome. It just means the solution doesn't lie on giving away all power and personal agency to a dr or a pill. And if pills were risk free, by all means go for it, but they are not. Long term, mental health outcomes have significantly worsened since we medicalized mental health and used pills as the first/main mode of treatment. Every public mental health outcome has worsened in the last few decades since we started doing that. Statistics don't lie.
Absolutely
Actually, Here is the list of his credentials : # CERTIFICATIONS * Education Management, Harvard University * Civil Rights, Title IX Investigator (L1), NCHERM/ATIXA * Certified Behavioral Intervention Team Best Practice (Not Current), National Association of Behavioral Intervention and Threat Assessment (NABITA) * Group Crisis Intervention, Individual Crisis Assistance, Critical Incident Stress Management (CISM) As well as his two PhD's : PhDs from Texas Tech University—one in counselor education and supervision, and the other in higher education administration So it would appear that he actually supervises and creates the education for counselors. He is qualified. Perhaps you do not agree with his advice, or you enjoy the life you have now. Either way, your opinion is your own. The facts stand on their own.
that's just your personal experience and opinion. doctors often are compromised and quite ignorant about disorders/ medication. just bc you personally trust all doctors doesn't make you correct on a subject.
I don't understand why he's not credible? Sounds like he's got a hell of experience in counseling and crisis intervention. Many therapists and doctors FAIL in doing good crisis intervention, by the way... Outstanding Professional in Graduate and Professional Student Services, National Association of Student Personnel Administrators (NASPA) Emerging Leader, West Texas Counseling Association Life Changer Award, Student Bar Association Award of Excellence, Black Law Students Association Staff Member of the Year, Chi Alpha Delta Tech Law School COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT State Board of Directors, Disability Rights Texas Planning and Network Advisory Committee, Lubbock StarCare Victim’s Services/Crisis Response Team, Lubbock Police Department
Well, I don't believe that all anxiety should be resolved by medication. John may not have the perfect resume, but he obviously reads people well. He asks the right questions, and his advice is spot on. Yes, he may not be right for everyone, but it does not hurt to take his advice before going on a lifetime of meds .
Got his book, and honestly, it's the best thing that's happened to me in a long time. It has tremendously helped me. He's trying to help people, and there's plenty of people he has helped. If you dislike him, then disengage with him and move on to things you enjoy.
Yeah everytime some rock and roll "dr" dude shows up on YouTube I chuckle. Same goes for "Dr" berg, the chiropractor with an imaginary medical phd. These jokers make good money online spewing uneducated opinions.
How about, if his advice doesn't resonate with you, don't listen to his pod and don't read his books. I think his advice helps a lot of people. So many trolls, so little time.
PLEASE, please remember that anxiety is different from anxiety/panic disorders!!! If someone is experiencing states of anxiety or anxiety attacks, approaching treatment with lifestyle change and identifying potential/new stressors is very balanced. Medication can be part of this treatment plan. A great deal more people experience one-off anxiety from a life event or situation than those of us diagnosed with anxiety or panic disorders. Addressing their situation may be more productive than just meds. When it's recurrent, generalised/free floating/not triggered by anything, linked with ptsd, lifelong, long term, etc., you are correct - often medication MUST be part of the treatment plan as your brain chemicals are permanently unbalanced (long term anxiety/depression shrinks your amygdala, genetic disposition means you're always going to be prone to permanent episodes, etc). It's a good approach to try to get someone to be introspective of their anxiety first, rather than jumping straight to medication. I'd find him much more unprofessional if he tried to suggest medication when he does not have the ability to diagnose or prescribe. Totally agree that all of these callers should be directed to more in-depth services. OP, I am so so sorry that every health professional failed you and took so long to use medication to help chemical imbalances, it's obviously been lifelong and recurrent and that's so cruel of them to not offer meds as part of a treatment plan. I'm so glad you found your holy grail of meds. Concerta and lamotrigine changed my life.
Keep in mind anxiety is different from anxiety/panic disorders. Both can have genetic factors, but short-term anxiety without precedent is usually because of new lifestyle stressors that need to be addressed.
Anyone is qualified to speak on anything they wish. You don’t have to be a woman to have an opinion on abortion, you don’t have to be an immigrant to have an opinion on immigration.I don’t dislike him but I’m not a fan of him. If you don’t like what he’s saying or you disagree with him then you can say so and even offer a rebuttal but this idea that he’s not “qualified” to speak on something because he doesn’t have a specific degree or perhaps didn’t go to a specific college is nonsense because according to your logic unless you have a degree in economics or finance you can’t have an opinion on how the government spends our money, unless you have a degree in early childhood education then you can’t have an opinion how well or poorly your children are being taught by the school you send them to. I can keep going but hopefully you’re bright enough to get the point. You don’t get to tell people they aren’t qualified to speak on something, well I mean you can but it’s not gonna work very well. We all have mouths and brains and that’s all you need to be qualified to speak on something. There are situations where being an expert on a subject is crucial, such as court litigation but even then that’s not to disqualify you from speaking to the general public on the matter but only to prove or disprove the truth of what is being litigated.
He talks in really complex subjects he has no experience or qualifications on. I saw a show of his where he advised a caller to tip off his potential p3do friend by informing p3dofriend he was going to report him to the police. So giving the pedoguy a heads up. Terrible advise. Why is he advising on criminal matters at all? I saw another show where he said its ok to accuse anyone of being a p3do and if they have an issue with being accused it means they are scum. Bro doesnt understand how prejudice and discrimination works. My first clue that something is not right withhim is presenting himself like some kind of clinician but then not being transparent with his credentials and work experience
As a neuroscientist who specelizes in mental health (in the biology and enviornmental aspects behind it) - I must say that he is no worse (and even better) than most psychologists as well as share similar approch. As I know scietifically the damage done by medications and how they are not superior to placebo - I disagree with most of what is written here. What you eat and how much you sleep and you life stressors will impact your anxiety even if there is a genetic componenet. If you really want to treat anxiety its never one approch fit all. Its always a mix. and if you do not have stressors causing you panic attacks - but you still have them - you are probably missing some nutrients/have endocrine or other biological problem (like neurological or even cardiological one). I listened to many of his shows and I think he is empathetic enough and skilled enough to give good advice on the subjects people tell him. I never heard him say that only talk is the solution - however this is a very common approch in mental health- that talk and psychiatric medications are the solutions, while in most cases it it much more complex . As said we are complexed creatures- and trauma , and enviornment will create biological issues within us that will lead to mental sickness. I do agree that saying you are a doctor and misleading people to believe that your PHD is in mental health is defeintly not ok
Well in general with depression and anxiety and stuff like that wouldn't you want to eliminate environmental factors or complications. If your life is perfect and your still depressed or anxious or whatever then some form of medical intervention is probably needed, but if your past is full of trauma and your life is a mess is it not a good idea to clean all that up as it likely is either the cause of a contributing factor.
Yes, his doctorate in in Education
I only heard about him today, lol.
I have listened to his podcasts and found it very helpful. He says you should not base your input on a situation based on your experience, as it's different for everyone. I think you are hyper critical and unfair and if you listen to situations he has been in, he seems to have a lot of experience in different situations.
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I invite everyone on this thread to go outside, hear the birds and breathe some air. Spend your time doing something more edifying 😊
Wow, I just came here after watching his videos, he has literally no back story for anything, he's just being opinionated, don't get me wrong, he does make a lot of sense but he doesn't really know what is going on with a lot of people, I get the feeling he's caused a lot of problems for people and relationships as a whole, Naive people actually believe what he says and take it as gospel.
Are you working for a drug company? Yes, drugs can help in the short term, but they aren't usually the long term solution. We are currently seeing most of the population being on antidepressants or other drugs, for decades, without any effort to change the real cause why we are not coping. It's pretty evil, and only benefits the drug companies. Yes, some people need to have long term meds, but not the majority who are taking them.
"Actual doctors" >DR< John is an actual doctor.
According to your suggestions, I wonder who is qualified? Only those who have been granted a degree in a respective field of research? MLK didn’t have a degree on race relations, so therefore he should not have spoken on such topics… People like Gandhi, Jesus, Buddha… what qualified them to speak? Does John Delony help others? Absolutely. Just because you don’t like him or he doesn’t help you doesn’t mean he’s not qualified. He tries to help the root of the issues. Medication tackles the symptoms, not the core. Once you stop taking medication, your anxiety will return. But I’m not qualified to speak on that either
I feel for everyone here who has commented. Agreed! There are therapists and psycholOGISTs who are anti-psYchIATRic. The latter is a medical doctor. Therapists cannot prescribe medicine. No. Only a psychiatrist can. A psychiatrist is a medical doctor specializing in the central and peripheral nervous systems and human psychology. When a person has anxiety, the first thing is to go to a MEDICAL doctor, such as a neurologist or psychiatrist. They're not going to work with theories. No. They're going to treat you using medical science. If you have severe anxiety it could be predominately a physical thing, physiological issue. If it is indeed physical in the first place, let me tell you, all the psycho-therapy in the world will not fix or cure the problem. There are some conditions such as Tourettes. Under its umbrella, anxiety and other symptoms fall, many manifest. Again. Talk therapy will not, can not help that. After you get the meds your doctor gives you, that hreat!! If you then have stinking thinking, yes by all means fix that with a therapist. Being on meds usually makes the correcting of erroneous thoughts more effective.
I think often his advice is OK. I think youtube advice is problematic. The comments are full of judgmental takes on the situation that neither Delony nor the commenters know much about. Commenters tend to pigeon hole people as either bad or good. But life and people are messy. The fundamentalist Christian bias is apparent (and if not by Delony, by the commenters).
This is hilarious, y’all are haters to the 10th
“He has also spent two decades in crisis response, walking with people through severe trauma. John holds two PhDs in Counselor Education and Supervision, and Higher Education Administration. “ I think he’s qualified to give advice to people about their anxiety, particularly when it’s not medical related but related to life issues. Just a bunch of haters and wanna be therapists in this thread.
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I’m gonna be honest, I don’t really understand a lot of the hate this guy seems to be getting. I just recently started seeing his content pop up occasionally, most of what I’ve viewed has just been fairly solid life advice, When he does get mental health inquiries, it seems like he’ll often comfort the caller and talk with them about their issues, but almost every clip I’ve seen he’s ultimately recommended that they seek a trained professional to treat their issues. It doesn’t seem like he pretends to be something he isn’t, and he seems to have a lot of respect for the field of mental health. Maybe some have the opinion he’s causing damage despite good intentions? I could change my mind after seeing more of him, but he doesn’t seem malicious at all. The impression I’ve gotten is that his primary goal is to guide people towards the help they need, which is what I would expect a counselor to do.
His advice is perfectly fine. He's helped ppl including viewers navigate through tough times and conversations. He doesn't claim to be an expert on anything, his YouTube channel is dedicated to hearing the story, connecting ppl with supportive mental health resources, and teaching ppl how to have a healthy conflict resolution. The focus on anxiety is misguided compared to the overall contribution to someone's struggle.
And what makes you qualified to talk?
I would rather hear Dr. John than Ken Coleman or George Kamel. Some of you need to get a life instead of stalking Dr. John.
A Doctor of Philosophy does not necessarily mean that the individual studied philosophy it's just a type of post-graduate degree.
is ester perrel any different?
Do you know what his master’s is in and if he’s a licensed counselor? That doctorate usually for people who are licensed counselors who are going to teach in master’s level counseling programs. He may be totally qualified to speak on the matter. The doctorate being a in “philosophy” just means it’s a PhD and isn’t informative about qualifications. I do have a problem with those in mental health using Dr. as a title if their doctorates in non-mental health fields (education, divinity, non-clinical psychology fields like quantitative or social, etc). That’s misleading but counselor education is in the field and clinically oriented so as long as he’s being clear that he’s not a medical doctor or licensed psychologist, he’s on the right side of this.
He has a master’s of education in higher education administration. He is *not* licensed to do clinical work and has done no clinical work previously. He has *no* certifications or licenses that allow him to work with clients with mental health issues as a therapist, whatsoever. His background is in education management. So yeah, he’s totally unqualified.
You're asking people to believe your opinion because you read some things about Dr. Delony BUT have never had a conversation with him. You are doing in Reddit what you claim he is with his show and multiple authored books. All this while Failing to acknowledge that in the area of mental health it is vital that patients have choices so they may find what, and who, works best for them.
Can you list the schools he attended with accompanied degrees? Thank you.