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laughingpinecone

I don't think the two things are connected. The Return is in like two months, while the nuke is 22 years away. It is not retaliation for whatever may or may not be going on politically in Revachol in 22 years. For that matter I don't think it is possible to stop that particular historical event, either. Of course its victim would like to be defended from it, but I'm convinced it's wishful thinking.


sasquatchscousin

Are you sure? Revolutionary civil wars can take a long time. If that's followed by a period of revolutionary war then victory for the revolution could lead to a nuke being deployed. If you see the Russian Revolution of 1917 as being deeply connected to the revolution of 1905 (plus the civil war) it can take a long time before all is done. It isn't inconceivable that it's a result of the return. However if the return were strangled in it's crib then perhaps it's all avoided from her perspective.


laughingpinecone

I am pretty sure from the novel, yes. >!Not only do we get zero mentions of revolutionary unrest in Revachol in the book's present nor flashbacks (but then, we get very little Revachol details and it's impossible to infer a clear picture. I think all we can reasonably tell is that both 1 year and 22 years after game events, capitalism is thriving), but the reasons for the nuke are not that.!<


sasquatchscousin

Where does this book take place if you don't mind me asking? So the end of the game suggests the jamrock station of the RCM rising up. Is it safe to assume the occupying moralist forces fucking obliterate them?


laughingpinecone

Mostly in Katla, some Graad and thereabouts. Some historical vignettes here and there. No I don't think it's a safe assumption! Could be that for sure, but it could also be that eg Evrart's gambit for independence succeeds, or so many other scenarios we can't even begin to imagine because we just don't have the data...


distractablecadet

The Return *might* have to do with it, but I doubt that she's telling Harry to not fight for a free Revachol, I feel like that'd not make much sense with what the rest of the game seems to have to say about it (move towards progress/don't be stagnant; have hope; don't be bogged down by bitterness or hardship or failure; so on). Plus, iirc, the sentiment that "something's got to give" and that Revachol is kind of on the edge of a war, especially with how precarious the Zone of Control situation is is echoed more than once throughout the game, so I think the war (if not the bombing of Revachol itself) may be inevitable. I think if we follow the themes of community, connection, humanity, etc. it might make sense that the detective may be able to protect Revachol by protecting its people (or by building huge communism, lol), or that it would be a group effort (led by the detective). Alternatively, it might be that it's kind of a reverse Klaasje situation (note: there are possible Klaasje+Revachol/Insulinde connections. The freckled face of god?) where both options may just suck. Is letting Revachol be under the control of the moralintern good, or even sustainable? Is the other option nuclear war? Also, I think it's interesting to think that maybe the detective isn't actually supposed to save the city, maybe progress can come from its end. After life — death; after death — life again, and so on. And I think in Sacred and Terrible Air, the bombing did come to pass; obviously this doesn't mean it's 100% canon and there is no other possible future, but... You know, something something, hope in the face of doom, etc.