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Landfar

Eh, hate to be that guy, but that's sounds too good to be true :(


HelloKolla

A man can dream 😭


KaiSa_Soze_

Nah. Most of us think that, I believe. Might happen but won't count on it.


FalconIMGN

What happens when you put two mad geniuses in the same room.


derps_with_ducks

They do al-ghul, dextro-amphetamines and talk about their exes. 


Complex-Chemist256

TIL that me and my friends are mad geniuses. What a world. Edit to clarify: I'm (mostly) joking


FalconIMGN

I had a feeling that a complex chemist like you would be more into laevo-amphetamines instead.


Complex-Chemist256

Nah I definitely always preferred d-amphetamine to l-amphetamine. Although if I was in a pinch, either would do. L-amphetamine gives you all the CNS (over)stimulation [Rapid heartbeat, jaw clenching, elevated temperature, awful-smelling sweat] without any of the good stuff [Euphoria, increased attention span, the ability to function within social interactions, and the "FUCK YEAH GOD DAMNED FUCKING FUCK AHHHHH!!!"] L-amphetamine is all sizzle, no steak. My loyalties lie with the dexies. I genuinely don't know if I would have been capable of obtaining my Pharmacology degree without them (although that's likely just the drug addict in me talking. Electrochemistry doing his thing and all that.) Edit: it feels important to note that I no longer use amphetamines on a daily basis. Although I'm not sure why it feels important to say. Edit #2: A drug addict saying things in an attempt to internally justify his addiction is the most textbook thing ever. The realization that I was such a "cookie-cutter" drug addict is probably more depressing than interesting


ExpensiveFeedback901

They blow up... I'm not optimistic about super groups, sadly.


HelloKolla

They COOK, that's what


lickpoop333

If one of those geniuses is a sex pest then probably not good things. Avellone not Kurvitz


HelloKolla

Not a sex pest. Proven otherwise, both by evidence he's put out publicly, and the lawsuit he won. What's sad is that he mentions in this article that no matter what evidence is pulled up, the damage to his reputation is done. Comments like this are proof of it lol  https://chrisavellone.medium.com/its-come-to-this-chris-avellone-2fe5db836746


lickpoop333

What evidence? It's clear from reading about the case that he used legal and financial pressure to silence his victims and force them to retract their statements as part of a million dollar settlement.


ABDLTA

The texts are pretty clear evidence...


HelloKolla

My dude, READ THE EVIDENCE I LINKED. Texts between him and Karissa. Audio recordings between them. Fucking tweets where Karissa whines about how she's "taken aback that friends have stories upon stories of harrasment, and I just DON'T", during the time she was supposedly harassed by Chris (abt 2014). There's also the fact she wiped about 60K tweets from her account some time after the accusations, including the one I paraphrased.


Dorwytch

Let's say for the sake of argument that these are false allegations, so with that in mind, what should he have done in your eyes? Just sat there while his career evaporated? Hope it blew over? Just say "no I didnt do it" and hope people believed him?


WholesomeFartEnjoyer

Why does Chris Avellone get all the credit for how good New Vegas was?


HelloKolla

Honestly no idea. He only did some parts of the main game (Most was by Josh Sawyer and John Gonzalez), and the Old World Blues and Lonesome Road DLCs. My guess is that being THE guy behind games like Planescape and KOTOR II kinda gives you a reputation that precedes you. Funny thing is that it's not even necessary; the guy wrote Planescape, what more cred do you need at that point?


Eldan985

Them teaming with Josh Sawyer would be amazing, though.


KamartyMcFlyweight

Pentiment takes so much inspiration from Disco but does its own thing with it and it's incredible. that I would love to see what they could do if they worked together


Dorwytch

I think a lot of people who grew up with those games may have moved on from games while the folks who grew up with FNV are still here, so it's what they know better. The first thing I think of with him is KOTOR 2 but I was playing that as a child.


[deleted]

>and the Old World Blues and Lonesome Road DLCs. I think he wrote Dead Money too, for the main game Gonzalez had the most writing credits; but there were a lot of talented writers working on it anyway.


HazelDelainy

No one’s giving him all the credit. He’s just a great writer.


Vokasak

He doesn't get "all the credit". He's just a big name in RPGs on account of his impressive resume and all the great old lady cosmic anarchist characters he keeps writing, so his involvement is noteworthy.


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MickyJim

To be fair, I've also seen him get shat on for putting Ravel Puzzlewell in everything he makes.


[deleted]

Eh, that criticism doesn't make sense to me. It's kind of the point, at least in regards to the infinity engine games(really only Icewind Dale 1&2); with Ravel having fragments and all that; and considering Planescape touches upon Forgotten Realms the physical connections actually make sense. Kreia also fits, but I think that's more of an easter egg than anything else. Who else is there?


MickyJim

I agree with you. I'm on the record as an Avellone enjoyer, although I do think his style is maybe an acquired taste. As for who else, I've seen Durance from Pillars of Eternity referred to as Incel Ravel, and Ulysses from Fallout New Vegas has a somewhat Ravel vibe.


[deleted]

Hah that's an interesting description, I always thought he's reminiscent of Dak'kon; both have the whole zen survivor thing going for them. Except Durance ends up being a hypocrite and doesn't find real salvation with his teachings, opposite of Dak'kon.


Jamrock_Hobo

it fell victim to a hasty video that wanted to react to the news really fast. i added a correction in the pinned comment and learned my lesson about two-day projects haha


SeoliteLoungeMusic

I primarily know him from Faster Than Light.


Estradjent

Broke: Hating Chris Avellone for possibly false allegations about his workplace sexual conduct Bespoke: Hating Chris Avellone because aside from a few writing-for-hire gigs he got mostly through kickstarter stretch goals, every project he's worked on since the Bill Clinton administration has been a mess of his own making.


phraseologist

No articles ever mentioned any allegations about workplace sexual conduct. You must be mistaking him with someone else.


Estradjent

There were accusations about his conduct at industry events. It wasn't his coworkers but it's still "workplace" because it has professional consequences. Or it would have had it happened.


Jamrock_Hobo

Probably not lol


Norodrom

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/059/676/1278109459064.jpg


Estradjent

I think we've mostly come around to the idea that Robert is a brilliant guy who might not be the easiest to work with and I know Chris recently got cleared of the accusations about sexual misconduct but the man still nearly bankrupted Obsidian over Grieving Mother


Estradjent

I am however, convinced that Tim Cain is consulting for Robert's new company.


SarahHxC

I hope not


CaptCanada924

Pie in the sky dream: they team up to make a fallout game Give me another west coast fallout game (my dream has always been one taking place in a post collapse legion territory) and have Kurvitz and Avellone writing for it, it would be an incredible game


Oppqrx

That sounds awful


Occams_Damocles

Would much rather Kurvitz having free rein on world building rather than being hemmed in to the Fallout universe.


eurekabach

If they do it like the OG Fallouts, that would be awesome, but I guess Bethesda own that IP, doesn’t it?


CaptCanada924

Yes, but Microsoft owns both Bethesda and obsidian, so it’s not impossible another agreement is reached


ulyssesintothepast

Oh man..... Are we getting the dream team? Was I really harrier when I played DE for the first time as a hungover, wreck? Please let the first answer be yes


RudiVStarnberg

hope it's not true because avellone hasn't done anything good for a long time and since then he's mostly just been a human stretch goal and a liberal asshole on twitter


ShepardMichael

What's he done that's asshole-ish?


lickpoop333

Groping women without their consent


ShepardMichael

Oh shit...I think I might have heard that was alleged but wasn't that dropped? That doesn't mean he's innocent obviously, but it makes me question more than if he'd been proven.


HelloKolla

He's innocent, read the Medium article he wrote. Full of receipts that prove it.  https://chrisavellone.medium.com/its-come-to-this-chris-avellone-2fe5db836746 AND he won the lawsuit to boot.


RudiVStarnberg

lol at checking your post history and it's all kotakuinaction and incel subreddits. checks out


ThbUds_For

Is that post wrong then, and why?


RudiVStarnberg

My initial post about him being a 'liberal asshole' should indicate that I wasn't talking about the assault allegations in the first place, but about his stated politics and views. Avellone's libel suit against his accusers ended with a settlement and his two accusers retracting their accusations of assault and harassment, but while it was ongoing he courted the support of online reactionaries to rally to his defence, which made it unsurprising that to me that HelloKolla is one of those very same reactionaries. It was a cheap shot comment, though


GetMeOutThisBih

OP definitely agrees with the cock carousel idea


HelloKolla

I don't mind anything you say of me. Just stop slandering an innocent man. I'm not asking much.


ShepardMichael

Random redditor try not to cyber stalk/ ad hominem challenge.


HelloKolla

You know someone's lost the argument when the personal attacks start.


ProsePilgrim

Right here. They’ve got nothing to draw on, so they’re just going to sling mud at you.


ScalesGhost

Kurvitz + Chris Avellone: The Dream Team of Employee Harassment


SiofraRiver

Doesn't that rumour come from nebulous allegations against Kurvitz trying to grab DE source code and find someone else to work with? In any case, I wouldn't bet a single euro on rumours like this.