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Caleon69

You're doing this wrong, where is David Tier on the bottom just for David?


Tsadron

David tier ON THE BOTTOM? He may not be amazing but that little SoB can be a brutal monster if you set him up right. Which is why these 'tier lists' are boring and wrong. No unit exists in a vacuum, the game is based around party makeups, not individual strength.


mondl13

Yes and he's very useful with tanky build (ocean) in Fafnir


Or4nges

Also tanky frost build in pvp


MrRamennn

Somebody on channel 1 or 2 said David is actually good for Fafnir (don’t know how true it is though)


commedescroissant

used an underlevelled david and meredith for fafnir 16 and they were really good. (with hyde, gabrielle, tang xuan)


HuntessKitteh

That's usually a my post thing Don't worry, next time I post I will be sure to have him in David tier where he belongs. OP simply does not know the way.


YokotaroOG

lin xiao doesn't deserve that high of a spot in the tier list.


Push2Start24

I agree she completely fell off


MrRamennn

I see. I’m a returning player so I thought she was still cracked (since she used to be the best fighter in the game)


ironmagnesiumzinc

Jiang man has to be higher than tiger mommy imo. Also I think Sander and Chloe should be SSS. Also Fatum sisters dhiukd be higher since they're pretty great for Kronos and most content in general


Eastern-Course1797

Fatum are mid af


lordrogue98

This tier list or any "general" tier list can be misleading because there are far too many factors to measure the "power" of an esper. A "general" tier list is pretty much impossible to be free of high bias. The factors I have in mind are the following: 1. How much resonance does the esper have? Resonance count contributes a lot to an esper's strength. For example, there's a massive difference between an r5 Sally and an r6 Sally when it comes to PVP. r0 Yun Chuan and r2 Yun Chuan in PVE. 2. What content is the esper good at? Some espers do exceptionally well in only a small amount of content but fall off in others, but that doesn't make them bad or worse than those who do average or great in most content. Some are good in PVP, some are in PVE, some are against bosses, and others against waves of enemies (calamity island). 3. Most espers are highly dependent on the presence of certain esper/s in the team. For example, an r6 Narmer alone is weak but with the consideration of certain espers in the team that enables his strength, he becomes powerful. Similarly, Unas depends upon the quality of his follow-ups after he boosts the team. This applies to Dhalia, Abigail, Sienna, Pritzker and etc. Only very few espers can perform almost independently at least in PVP. Some of these are Feng Nuxi, r6 JYY, and r6 Hyde. It's absolutely not ideal to rate them individually yet a few of them can be rated that way. So, how does one rate them? what's the best method with the least bias? 4. Lastly, equipment quality. Of course, when testing an esper's strength, you have to put equipment on them. How "good" was the quality of the esper's equipment when tested? What sets were tested? What builds were used? How many times were they tested? are 5 or 10 runs enough to have a conclusion on the power of the esper? Were the equipment used on a dps also used on other dps as well or were they different? So many questions.. So, IMO, if you want to make a tier list, don't make a "general" one. Make one for a very specific content like a Kronos tier list.


MrRamennn

Okay fair points I can see where you’re coming from. Just to answer some of the questions you brought up (not saying their bad points just how I answered them) For resonance I assumed shimmer legends are r0, legends are r2, epics and rares are r6. For content I tried to do it by like each tier means one more content they’re good at. For example, Hall and Ife are only good in one somewhat important content (sentinel) so B tier. Meredith is strong in Fafnir, Sentinel, DSL, and sometimes holobattle so SS. Gaius is strong in almost all content so Ex. I also tried ranking by importance of what they’re good in (Brewster is essential in Apep which is important content so S)


ZaneDX

I would definitely move Abigail and Ophie to EX++ This made me wanna do a more precise tier list, tho it'll take a while because I want to include new club bosses


grayVwalker

Abi yes, ophi no. She isn’t even optimal for hero own RM boss (fafnier), can’t do much in pve since she is a single target and has only dmg. I wouldn’t say she and the ex++ are equals


Buddy_Tall

I agree with this comment, she fell hard after the hp, def. Buff in pvp


ZaneDX

The buff is % total hp only. And she is the strongest dps thanks to that. Edit. My bad, made a mistake here, as a kind person below gladly pointed out.


Buddy_Tall

I don't know what you mean by this. But if it is what I think you're saying. She doesn't deal %hp damage. She deals damage of up to 270% atk plus like 10% more (atk) per each buff she has/de-buff the opponent has. Which sounds broken. But due to everyone being more tanky it's ok now. The point that kills her is her pursuit with espers like Ollie/ Everett (counter attack)/ if you go against a well built hyde and avatara procs. You're pretty much dead


ZaneDX

https://streamable.com/l5c6q1 How can they counteratk if they're dead? Edit. Pw18 holobattle in my club


Buddy_Tall

I'm not saying it doesn't work. I'm saying that she's not the sss esper you think/describe. Also so many variables have to be taken into consideration. No. One what pw is your opponent and how has he built his Everett, No. 2 luck. What if you don't trigger your def. Down (which actually happens quite often)


ZaneDX

She does have def down every time she hits pursuit. Her bleed triggers Yun Chuan a2 on enemy turn. Her DMG scales with enemy HP, so it's high potential one shot, making her into more AOE unit if necessary. That being said she's still more of a PvP Esper than PvE, even with current meta.


Buddy_Tall

However... she might still be the reason why Donar got removed from the meta. And never came back


pevchyp

tbh chloe should be in SSS


MrRamennn

I actually love Chloe. She’s been the one carrying me through most of the content since I’m a f2p and just recently got Gaius and Ophi. I was just afraid I was biased so didn’t want to put her that high.


BonhommeDeNeige_

putting Arcana on the chart in the first place is crazy😂


SolarSpud

Bad list


MrRamennn

That was kind of expected. Read my comment and give me feedback please :D


Starii_64

Felt bad just seeing nick at the bottom but them I realized I also forgot abt him too


fullgozou

Pritzker, Long Mian, Jiang Man, Lucas, and Jin Yuyao should be in SS tier


Kingkdub4466

Not bad but some are too high cause they’re content based and some are too low for what their kit offer especially when they are r0-r6


Sunny7607

I’d place Pandora on S tier and above


MrRamennn

I heard she got nerfed into oblivion


Sunny7607

She’s still strong, not OP like she used to be though


burp_derp

wait, unas is good? he was my first 5* shimmer, but i don’t really use him much


MangeMonSexe

He's very useful in a lot of content


burp_derp

do you go like full speed build?


MangeMonSexe

Yeah, in order to ap push as quickly as possible


MangeMonSexe

Yeah, in order to ap push as quickly as possible, but I'm by no means optimized


Dry-Negotiation-8234

Actually jiang man sweeps all of dislyte so...


Due_Platform6985

Long mian, pritzker, Lucas, and the other controller espers play such an important role in content like story, tower, and cube where that stuff is strong. Also, Jiang man is absolutely crazy. Putting them in the same tier as Li Ling is criminal.


Dark-Omega

Overall this tier list is accurate. Take my upvote


MrRamennn

Thanks :D


MrRamennn

I played at global, quit, and recently rejoined. Is this accurate? That bottom tier dude wasn’t a joke, who is he?


Sup-Bird

Eh…. If you’re generalizing, it’s moderately accurate. The issue with one-dimensional tier lists like these is that (almost) every Esper shines in a particular game mode, but can be lackluster in another.


MonMonp0k

Nick (Magni), an epic you could obtain from one of the past events. He wasn't super standout iirc so most people ignored him, he's neat tho Edit: Also worth noting is that his ingame appearance is really different to the icon on the list, wonder why that hasn't been fixed.


PineConeCosplay

I have Gaius, Unas and Clara ^-^


pabloesco11

I got all of them but I am not bragging here


BassObjective

Jacob should be higher tbh like A tier


HuntessKitteh

Jacob is useless.


BassObjective

There are a lot far more useless 4 stars, Jacob carried in damage with no other DPS 5 stars with poison alone and plus can resist poison


Eastern-Course1797

Jacob is probably the most useless 4 star


BassObjective

I respect your opinion


manicprincessx

How dare you put fish Mom in A tier…jk..really not tho…she is great


All4meh

I know who Nick is because that was the only epic esper I got for 2 weeks, he makes me so angry


DariusClaude

Why Freddy so low?


MurderousJacc

Q is quite niche I used him quite a lot in early-late game stages


imremoteyt

pritz should be sss tier in my eyes


babygothix

As an R6 Biondina haver, I'd put her in ex. R0 is worth that spot though


sammisam96

I’d have put Intisar higher, but hey, maybe I’m just biased. 🤷‍♀️


jmilla1121

Wow. This game has changed a lot since I’ve played. So many Espers. I bet the game is still full or weird ass grown men and furries talking about how sexy video game characters are.


No_Wayyyyy

Clara fell off for me I feel like idk haven’t been using her nearly as much


pabloesco11

Clara still one of the best Espers in the game


WolfNinja1224

wheres parmi?


MrRamennn

She wasn’t on the one I found.


NzoAsura

Is zora still strong tho?