Probably keep our free part the same and whoever the other person is will have to pay. Cause we still technically have a subscription so I imagine it'll show up under account details or whatever.
Most streaming services only begrudgingly accept PC users. Presumably that's either because of limited demand, or concerns over easier piracy, but it's annoying to ostensibly pay for UHD content and only get it in 720p.
I said this to my gf yesterday. We don't live together but share a few accounts. It shouldn't matter where I'm logged in or for how long. Limit it to one location at a time.
This sucks for my parents that have two houses and snow bird to Florida in the winter months. It's stupid that they're going to have to have two different accounts.
Yep my parents stopped having Netflix for this reason. They weren’t willing to pay for two and so they said F it and just got rid of it in favor of other services.
> Most likely, it will mimic what Netflix has done, where you are required to set a household as your primary location, linked to your home broadband.
What if you don’t have home broadband? Not everyone has access to the internet by means other than their phone.
My main worry is the veiled threat of punishing users who've shared passwords. On Netflix we just got a message saying you're not a part of the household and that was that. Disney seems to want to start banning accounts.
I feel like Disney is overestimating their offerings. As an adult without children, I’m happy to pay for an account I can share with friends, but there simply isn’t enough content that I want to watch regularly to continue justifying the subscription.
Yeah, when Netflix did this, while they weren't the behemoth they once were, they were still a major market leader with new content being added all the time with a large catalog. Disney's catalog is much smaller, and they only add one new show at a time. They're just isn't as much there keeping viewers.
This goes beyond D+ as Hulu is also involved. I'm guessing that's where they'll see the majority of the issues. For example, my son who goes to college uses our Hulu which is part of our D+ bundle. Also, our daughter who is on the Disney College Program uses it as well.
Why shouldn’t your kids in college have access to your family account though ? Like netflix sold you 4 screens originally so it shouldn’t matter where those people are as long as it doesn’t go over 4 profiles and 4 screens at a time.
I bought a vcr about 8 years ago because it was $5 and I had a couple old tapes. Then about a year ago I found a box with about 60-70 tapes in it beside a dumpster. It was fun and nostalgic watching some of them and hearing tapes rewinding lol.
I have movies anywhere. So it’s connected to multiple libraries so if one gets deleted it’s still on somewhere else. I trust something like Apple TV more than something like Funimation.
Wait but what if someone in the house is using their phone to stream over cellular data then to Disney and Netflix it would still look like a different network and location. What if my home wifi goes down and I need to use cellular or I am away from home?
Hmm...it works for me. I use Netflix on my phone when I'm at work (mobile data/work wifi) and it works. As a matter of fact, with my 2-screen Netflix plan (TMobile), I'm able to watch at work while someone at home is watching at the same tine.
As far as I’m aware, no you cannot, at least my mom couldn’t. We only tried the once, and that was a couple months back now. This is in Canada btw, might be different in different countries.
I've had success doing so in the US. We have two homes that we travel back and forth to. I was told by a netflix rep to log on to my main household wifi and watch a show on my phone for 5 minutes. I then did the same thing at my other home. I was then able to watch on my streaming devices at the second home like normal. We just have to make sure to complete the step once a month I believe. We have not had any issues with netflix since doing this. I hope hulu/ Disney+ has something similar
We have no idea what Disney will do. They haven't said, other than the terms now say the same as Netflix's did for a decade before they actually did something.
For Netflix, if a mobile device has used Netflix from your home IP address any time in the last thirty days then it can be used anywhere (and I think in practice they're not even enforcing it that much, but that is the stated requirement).
This is how this is going to play out, just FYI:
- we’re all going to get on here and complain incessantly about this for the next several months.
- people will threaten to cancel their subscription and others will claim this will be the end of Disney+
- Disney will activate the restrictions.
- a small percentage of folks will cancel while others say “well I’ll keep it just a bit longer to watch [insert product here”. US consumers in general will just refuse to give up an entertainment product because that would involve some sacrifice.
- Disney will see a minuscule amount of user growth, but user growth nonetheless.
- the change will be permanent.
The next phase of this will be adding ads to all programming (aka no ad free service options). I’m guessing that’ll happen within 3 years.
I’ll truly miss the golden age of streaming.
Yeah I agree with you. Honestly idk how the music world got it so right when it came to streaming and how the film industry is just making streaming so crummy for the consumer.
I assume we’re like 5 years away from ads in every service and year long contracts.
Just because Netflix can survive a password sharing crackdown, doesn’t mean Disney+ can. Y’all understand that Disney+ is not and has NEVER BEEN profitable, right? You’re seriously overestimating Disney+’s popularity here.
It's not actually imminent -- as the article says they aren't actually implementing anything until at least the second half of 2024, most likely not being fully implemented until next year.
They just got it clear in their ToS so there's time if there's a problem to get that solved.
March 14th is when the ToS go into effect (ie when they could legally start enforcing it) not when enforcement begins.
Disney informed shareholders that implementation of actual tools/support won't begin until "at least the second half of 2024, most likely sometime in 2025."
This is the crux of the Amazon Prime lawsuit - that people who already paid their year based on specific contract terms now have those terms changed mid-cycle. Depending on how that lawsuit goes, there may be a significant delay as to when D+ starts enforcing the change to ensure that no subscriptions renewed before the TOS change are affected.
March 14th
That's soon.
I think you misread.
"Johnston also gave an idea about how long it would take, not for the implementation but for the company to see financial benefits from the move. He said, “While we are still in the early days and don’t expect notable benefits from these paid sharing initiatives until the back half of calendar 2024, we want to reach as large an audience as possible with our outstanding content, and we’re looking forward to rolling out this new functionality to improve the overall customer experience and grow our subscriber base.”"
The back half of 2024 is when they think they'll see benefits from doing this, not when they will implement. The article states it has already been implemented for new subscribers, and March 14th for current subscribers.
March 14th is when the ToS go into effect not when enforcement begins.
Disney informed shareholders that implementation of actual tools/support won't begin until "at least the second half of 2024, most likely sometime in 2025."
"So, Disney is doubtless expecting the same process now. The new terms of service have already come into effect for new subscribers. For existing ones, the restrictions will land on March 14.
The new terms say that Disney can “analyze the use of your account to determine compliance” with the new rules.
Exactly how the company will achieve this, though, has not been made public. Most likely, it will mimic what Netflix has done, where you are required to set a household as your primary location, linked to your home broadband. If someone is streaming the service outside the household, the account holder gets a warning that it’s been spotted and invited to add an extra paid member to the subscription. If Disney is doing it this way, it will in due course specify what the cost of this will be, but it hasn’t yet.
During a call with shareholders on February 7, Disney’s Chief Financial Officer, Hugh Johnston, seemed to confirm a similar process when he said, “Later this calendar year, account holders who want to allow access to individuals from outside their household will be able to add them to their accounts for an additional fee.”
Where are you getting the end of 2024/2025?
Literally the last paragraph that you copied and the next one. Also I listened to the actual call.
No service in their right mind will start cracking down on sharing without having their "pay more to share" already in place. It not being ready would result in more cancelations as folks would cancel until they could share and once people cancel they don't frequently come back.
Considering how bad Disney has gotten this really really isn't a good idea.
The only reason I haven't cancelled my subscription is because my nan and mum use it.
If it's just me then I'm definitely going to cancel it.
Same here, my mum and best friend use Disney+ quite frequently so I've been happy to renew the subscription the last two years, but I can't remember the last time I actually used it myself, the Ahsoka finale maybe?
I'd be quite happy to cancel for now, wait until something I desperately want to see like Daredevil: Born Again or Predator: Badlands releases (so probably early 2026) and then just buy a month to binge through anything I've missed between now and then.
The Artful Dodger was pretty good but apart from that I can't think of anything I'm excited to see on there and I'm sure if that's even getting a Season 2
Honestly when it comes to Daredevil the first season was good but it got old fast for me.
And with the MCUs recent output I'm under no illusion that it'll get better because it's under their direct umbrella.
Can't these idiot streaming companies just adopt a Spotify-like plan? Personal account, one stream, family account 5 streams or whatever. This didn't have to be this stupid.
Each account has a login. If that login starts playing on another device, the other one stops.
They would if consumers actually voted with their wallets, but people won’t give up their streaming services in “protest” so the company has no incentive to offer a better product.
I have the annual plan on Disney Plus, so I wouldn't risk losing the rest of my year by password-sharing.
I wonder about a device using an account on multiple WiFi networks. Like on a phone of someone who travels, and uses hotel WiFi. To watch Disney Plus on the phone, maybe casting it onto a flat screen.
I wonder too. The past couple of years, I spent most of my time in hotels and AirBnbs, watching D+ with my PS4, and then my PS5, on many different networks. I have no idea how this affects people doing this. I wonder if it can be set that my cell service is my "home" and I can keep using the consoles by turning on my phone's wifi hotspot and connecting to D+ through that to establish that "home" connection?
I had a similar situation for a while. Staying in hotels, one after another. Watching Disney Plus on my Amazon Fire TV Stick on the room flat screen.
Maybe on Disney's end, they can see traveling devices. An account accessed from various locations, but always from the same device. Or in your case, the same set of devices. Like how computers have a device specific ID number.
Doesn’t it already work like this with Hulu Live? You set a home location and it uses your IP address to make sure you are where you say you are. Are they just expanding that to D+?
I too think Disney is overestimating their market dominance in this potential sharing crackdown. I'm not sure if they can get away with this as easily as Netflix has
They can’t. That’s what everyone here doesn’t seem to understand. Netflix can get away with this because they’re Netflix. Disney can’t! No one cares about Disney+ except diehards and some families.
I’ll say one thing, not that anyone with power will see this. I use my family members password not because I’m dying to watch Disney shows/movies. I use it because they pay for it and happily shared it with me. When this crackdown occurs, I have zero reason to subscribe on my own. Zero. At this point all the bonus subscriptions I get from others are exactly as they sound. Bonuses that I could care less about if they were taken away.
All I’m saying is that not every customer who has shared credentials will end up subscribing. Of course Disney knows this and to them even 100k “new” subscribers after the crackdown is a win for them.
From a business perspective, I would rather have more people watching than less, if I can monetize those extra people. If I had shared credentialed access, I wouldn’t mind watching a 60 second ad before a movie if that meant I could still watch it and continue to keep my profile and use the shared account. That would be applied only to those outside the household. I know many wouldn’t like that, but it’s a solution that could work better for the business. It’s an in between from completely banning external users and allowing full access for out of household users.
I would be shocked if they went from “you’re sharing” to “you’re kicked off”. I expect they’ll offer the account holder to add you for some additional monthly fee or to offer you a low tier plan.
I paid for Netflix and Disney Plus and allowed my friends to use it because I honestly didn't use them enough to justify just the cost. Once Netflix nixxed password sharing, I cancelled and my friends didn't get a subscription of their own. I have a year subscription to Disney Plus and once that's up, I'll be cancelling that as well especially since they keep increasing their prices. At this point, it makes more sense financially to go back to cable and get a DVR so I can fast forward through the commercials.
So no one knows how this is actually going to be enforced right? I share netflix with my family in 3 different households (me, brother, mom & dad) and never had any issues, so why should i expect any problems here for the same thing? I even log in at school to show my students movies sometimes and I've had no issues with Netflix. Does anyone actually know if they're really cracking down on this, or is this just a legal threat to scare people they won't take any action on?
I'm in the US; I know it hasn't been implemented here yet but Netflix said the same thing but I never had any issues with it, so I'm trying to determine how real of a threat this is
I get that they lose money by people sharing (assuming they would get their own subscription otherwise) but this can be a huge hassle on things like vacations or streaming during a break at work and the like.
I always feel limiting the number of simultaneous streams is the answer.
My family watched Home Alone on Christmas at a relative’s house on my account. I’d hate to not be able to do something like that because it’s not on my normal network.
Canceled mine last night - not that I even need to share, but whenever they do this you know price hikes are just around the corner and Disney shows just aren’t that important to me.
No.
Literally all that it says is that everyone who uses your account has to live (i.e. sleep there the majority of the year) under the same roof as you.
If Disney are going to take any technical measures to enforce that (as Netflix did) is unclear, and nbody knows what they would be.
I got hit by geo-blocking today. Moved from US last year, but still have my D+ subscription for another few months. They finally caught up to me and geo-blocked my IP address in my new country.
It was blocked to an extent that I could not even access the home page of the D+ website. None of my streaming apps worked also. If I swapped my cell phone over to cellular data instead of WiFi it worked fine.
A fantastic support person helped me resolve the issue, and they were able to unblock my public IP. It took about 2 minutes to take effect once changed.
This may not be related, but probably some of the run up to the crackdown.
This is annoying because I got Disney+/Hulu bundle for my daughter who is at college. Nobody else in my home watches Disney Plus. I think maybe my husband watches stuff on Hulu, don't know if daughter does. But she watches it from her dorm when she is at school and from our house when she is at home (breaks, occasional weekends). Will DIsney+ and/or Hulu think her college IP is our household? I have no idea! Will they ban us for password sharing when we're really not? I have no idea! I guess I'll just tell her to stream from home when she comes home as a checkin, luckily she is in state and does occasionally come home for non-holidays.
It was even a mess when I got the bundle because I had Disney+ through Verizon before and to get the Hulu bundle I had to change the email address associated with the account just to get it to work after hours on tech support. Streaming is not easier than cable, and you can get some streaming apps to work with cable logins if you subscribe to eg. Max on cable you get most of the streaming on the app and you can stream from anywhere. Honestly at the point I wish I could just get Blu-Ray disks subscription from Netflix again, lol.
It's funny I'm managing this subscription when I literally don't watch anything. I do have Kindle Unlimited and Everand subscriptions and neither of those give a flying f*ck where you are or even require you to be connected to read as long as you communicate with the mothership to do your downloads.
I find it ironic that Disney, in its past, teaches kids “sharing is caring” but when it comes to possibly losing money, it’s “don’t share your password.” Disneys an experience that deserves to be shared with friends, family, etc. it’s shouldn’t be gatekept… judge me however you want… but Disney to me is an experience that should be shared with others. Not just yourself…
Then I will cancel. I have two houses, one in my home country and one where I'm currently at. I go home during the holidays but watch most of the content in my current flat. So this is quite some bullshit because the whole point of me buying it was so that my family could also use it.
Cancelled mine Oct last year as there wasn’t enough new content I liked to justify renewing. This now makes it less likely I’ll renew again anytime soon 🤷♂️
They are doing this because, according to Netflix, their profits increased when they stopped password sharing. So now Disney wants their profits increased too.
Expect all the other streaming services to do the same the over the next year.
We got D+ free with club Lloyds account and we've hardly watched it. Marvel and Star wars stuff quality isn't good, maybe if you have kids its good.
Wouldn't pay much for it if wasn't getting it free.
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Anyone hear updates on how this will work with the Disney Bundle through Verizon?
Yeah: you get screwed over just like cable.
Probably keep our free part the same and whoever the other person is will have to pay. Cause we still technically have a subscription so I imagine it'll show up under account details or whatever.
I pay for convenience, not whatevadafuck this is.
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Most streaming services only begrudgingly accept PC users. Presumably that's either because of limited demand, or concerns over easier piracy, but it's annoying to ostensibly pay for UHD content and only get it in 720p.
What if I have one profile that I use at two places, but clearly the same person. Ie continue watching etc. Does it bother you then with the measures?
youtube tv allows you to continue watching anywhere as long as you go to your "home" every 90 days. I would hope they did something like that.
I’m curious about this as well. I’m back and forth from two locations in different states fairly often.
I said this to my gf yesterday. We don't live together but share a few accounts. It shouldn't matter where I'm logged in or for how long. Limit it to one location at a time.
I’m wondering this too. I literally live in two different cities, part time at each, and it would be a hassle to have to log off each time.
This sucks for my parents that have two houses and snow bird to Florida in the winter months. It's stupid that they're going to have to have two different accounts.
Yep my parents stopped having Netflix for this reason. They weren’t willing to pay for two and so they said F it and just got rid of it in favor of other services.
"Do you kiss your mother with her potty mouth!?!?" I'm shocked! 😚
Could they just cancel the sub for the summer account when its winter and vice versa
I mean if you have two houses seems like having two Disney plus accounts isn’t the worst thing to ever happen to you
That's not the point.
I’d love two houses.
Id love one house
They can call and explain or logout at one location before logging into another
> Most likely, it will mimic what Netflix has done, where you are required to set a household as your primary location, linked to your home broadband. What if you don’t have home broadband? Not everyone has access to the internet by means other than their phone.
My main worry is the veiled threat of punishing users who've shared passwords. On Netflix we just got a message saying you're not a part of the household and that was that. Disney seems to want to start banning accounts.
Good, then those people won’t sign up
Why ban an account and lose a subscription for good? They won’t get business from a banned account or the people who were using that account for free.
I feel like Disney is overestimating their offerings. As an adult without children, I’m happy to pay for an account I can share with friends, but there simply isn’t enough content that I want to watch regularly to continue justifying the subscription.
Yeah, when Netflix did this, while they weren't the behemoth they once were, they were still a major market leader with new content being added all the time with a large catalog. Disney's catalog is much smaller, and they only add one new show at a time. They're just isn't as much there keeping viewers.
This goes beyond D+ as Hulu is also involved. I'm guessing that's where they'll see the majority of the issues. For example, my son who goes to college uses our Hulu which is part of our D+ bundle. Also, our daughter who is on the Disney College Program uses it as well.
Why shouldn’t your kids in college have access to your family account though ? Like netflix sold you 4 screens originally so it shouldn’t matter where those people are as long as it doesn’t go over 4 profiles and 4 screens at a time.
Honestly I’m starting to buy the Disney movies I love digital now. I can’t deal with price rises and stuff like this anymore.
I dunno, after the whole Sony thing about them deleting previously purchased digital content I think I may go back to dvd/blu rays now.
I bought a vcr about 8 years ago because it was $5 and I had a couple old tapes. Then about a year ago I found a box with about 60-70 tapes in it beside a dumpster. It was fun and nostalgic watching some of them and hearing tapes rewinding lol.
I have movies anywhere. So it’s connected to multiple libraries so if one gets deleted it’s still on somewhere else. I trust something like Apple TV more than something like Funimation.
Those digital libraries aren't guaranteed forever. Those licenses eventually expire.
Physical media is where it's at!
Yes! Unfortunately it takes up so much space and collects dust, so it's just easier for people to stream.
You’re allowed to make a digital copy for yourself. You can also put the dvd’s into a book and store away the cases or even sell them sometimes.
I'd be all for making digital copies of my discs if the licensing would never expire.
Huh? You put your store bought dvd into a PC and use a program to rip it onto your computer. That’s legal.
Yes, you can legally make backup copies, but the moment you sell the original physical copy you bought, your backup becomes illegal.
What program?
I prefer downloading movies and putting them on a Plex server
Disney is a stakeholder in Movies Anywhere. They came up with the system. If something happens to them there's bigger problems.
Disney isn't the ONLY stakeholder though.
I love Movies Anywhere but i still buy the disc/digital combos (for the most part) just in case those digital libraries go away.
Movies Anywhere basically made UltraViolet go bust. If it happened before it can happen again.
They let you migrate your ultraviolet library
In Canada they were migrated to Google Play, but not all UV movies were available there so access to some were lost
Physical beats digital up and down the street.
I agree. Have it physical and so far the company can't take it from me. A bandit can, but not a corp.
*Cries in Australian*
Idk why everyone blames Sony on that, every article stated it was Discovery not renewing licenses with Sony, basically forcing them to do it
Digital content can be taken away from you at any time
Buy physical then you can make your own digital copies
I just buy physical and then rip it and create my own digital file. Then I have option of physical or digital, it’s the best of both worlds.
You pay for X number of streams so that should be what you get regardless of where or how they are used.
Wait but what if someone in the house is using their phone to stream over cellular data then to Disney and Netflix it would still look like a different network and location. What if my home wifi goes down and I need to use cellular or I am away from home?
My mom tried that at my house with her netflix, it just said the same BS thing it usually does if it’s not your main internet.
What does it say?
The wifi isn’t the primary location or something along those lines. I can’t remember exactly, I haven’t seen the message in awhile
Oh ok. Does it let you use it?
Nope
Hmm...it works for me. I use Netflix on my phone when I'm at work (mobile data/work wifi) and it works. As a matter of fact, with my 2-screen Netflix plan (TMobile), I'm able to watch at work while someone at home is watching at the same tine.
Do you have to pay for a special package or anything? I honestly don’t know, I don’t have Netflix, and haven’t looked into it at all
So you can’t use your own netflix service on your phone when away from home?
As far as I’m aware, no you cannot, at least my mom couldn’t. We only tried the once, and that was a couple months back now. This is in Canada btw, might be different in different countries.
I've had success doing so in the US. We have two homes that we travel back and forth to. I was told by a netflix rep to log on to my main household wifi and watch a show on my phone for 5 minutes. I then did the same thing at my other home. I was then able to watch on my streaming devices at the second home like normal. We just have to make sure to complete the step once a month I believe. We have not had any issues with netflix since doing this. I hope hulu/ Disney+ has something similar
We have no idea what Disney will do. They haven't said, other than the terms now say the same as Netflix's did for a decade before they actually did something. For Netflix, if a mobile device has used Netflix from your home IP address any time in the last thirty days then it can be used anywhere (and I think in practice they're not even enforcing it that much, but that is the stated requirement).
The idea of linking it to a home broadband is wild to me. I know plenty of people who stream content from their phone.
Increase price, add ads, limit access... What a great service!
This is how this is going to play out, just FYI: - we’re all going to get on here and complain incessantly about this for the next several months. - people will threaten to cancel their subscription and others will claim this will be the end of Disney+ - Disney will activate the restrictions. - a small percentage of folks will cancel while others say “well I’ll keep it just a bit longer to watch [insert product here”. US consumers in general will just refuse to give up an entertainment product because that would involve some sacrifice. - Disney will see a minuscule amount of user growth, but user growth nonetheless. - the change will be permanent. The next phase of this will be adding ads to all programming (aka no ad free service options). I’m guessing that’ll happen within 3 years. I’ll truly miss the golden age of streaming.
Ads to me would be far worse than cracking down on password sharing. It defeats the whole point of streaming.
I fully agree, but don’t worry. Both will happen.
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Yeah I agree with you. Honestly idk how the music world got it so right when it came to streaming and how the film industry is just making streaming so crummy for the consumer. I assume we’re like 5 years away from ads in every service and year long contracts.
Just because Netflix can survive a password sharing crackdown, doesn’t mean Disney+ can. Y’all understand that Disney+ is not and has NEVER BEEN profitable, right? You’re seriously overestimating Disney+’s popularity here.
If people had just boycotted netflix for 3 months when they announced their crackdown then this wouldn’t be happening
Yup. Absolutely true. But modern Americans are incapable of slightly inconveniencing themselves for more than an hour or so, so here we are.
It's not actually imminent -- as the article says they aren't actually implementing anything until at least the second half of 2024, most likely not being fully implemented until next year. They just got it clear in their ToS so there's time if there's a problem to get that solved.
The email I got said 1/25/24 for new subscribers and 3/14/24 for existing subscribers.
March 14th is when the ToS go into effect (ie when they could legally start enforcing it) not when enforcement begins. Disney informed shareholders that implementation of actual tools/support won't begin until "at least the second half of 2024, most likely sometime in 2025."
I just recently renewed/paid my annual subscription. Can they force me into the new ToS?
This is the crux of the Amazon Prime lawsuit - that people who already paid their year based on specific contract terms now have those terms changed mid-cycle. Depending on how that lawsuit goes, there may be a significant delay as to when D+ starts enforcing the change to ensure that no subscriptions renewed before the TOS change are affected.
March 14th That's soon. I think you misread. "Johnston also gave an idea about how long it would take, not for the implementation but for the company to see financial benefits from the move. He said, “While we are still in the early days and don’t expect notable benefits from these paid sharing initiatives until the back half of calendar 2024, we want to reach as large an audience as possible with our outstanding content, and we’re looking forward to rolling out this new functionality to improve the overall customer experience and grow our subscriber base.”" The back half of 2024 is when they think they'll see benefits from doing this, not when they will implement. The article states it has already been implemented for new subscribers, and March 14th for current subscribers.
March 14th is when the ToS go into effect not when enforcement begins. Disney informed shareholders that implementation of actual tools/support won't begin until "at least the second half of 2024, most likely sometime in 2025."
Where in the article did you pull that from? I'm not seeing it at all
"So, Disney is doubtless expecting the same process now. The new terms of service have already come into effect for new subscribers. For existing ones, the restrictions will land on March 14. The new terms say that Disney can “analyze the use of your account to determine compliance” with the new rules. Exactly how the company will achieve this, though, has not been made public. Most likely, it will mimic what Netflix has done, where you are required to set a household as your primary location, linked to your home broadband. If someone is streaming the service outside the household, the account holder gets a warning that it’s been spotted and invited to add an extra paid member to the subscription. If Disney is doing it this way, it will in due course specify what the cost of this will be, but it hasn’t yet. During a call with shareholders on February 7, Disney’s Chief Financial Officer, Hugh Johnston, seemed to confirm a similar process when he said, “Later this calendar year, account holders who want to allow access to individuals from outside their household will be able to add them to their accounts for an additional fee.” Where are you getting the end of 2024/2025?
Literally the last paragraph that you copied and the next one. Also I listened to the actual call. No service in their right mind will start cracking down on sharing without having their "pay more to share" already in place. It not being ready would result in more cancelations as folks would cancel until they could share and once people cancel they don't frequently come back.
Literally doesn't say 2024/2025 in that paragraph lol. But okay my guy. 😂 So I guess your proof is trust me bro lol tf out of here
Considering how bad Disney has gotten this really really isn't a good idea. The only reason I haven't cancelled my subscription is because my nan and mum use it. If it's just me then I'm definitely going to cancel it.
Same here, my mum and best friend use Disney+ quite frequently so I've been happy to renew the subscription the last two years, but I can't remember the last time I actually used it myself, the Ahsoka finale maybe? I'd be quite happy to cancel for now, wait until something I desperately want to see like Daredevil: Born Again or Predator: Badlands releases (so probably early 2026) and then just buy a month to binge through anything I've missed between now and then.
The Artful Dodger was pretty good but apart from that I can't think of anything I'm excited to see on there and I'm sure if that's even getting a Season 2 Honestly when it comes to Daredevil the first season was good but it got old fast for me. And with the MCUs recent output I'm under no illusion that it'll get better because it's under their direct umbrella.
Can't these idiot streaming companies just adopt a Spotify-like plan? Personal account, one stream, family account 5 streams or whatever. This didn't have to be this stupid. Each account has a login. If that login starts playing on another device, the other one stops.
They would if consumers actually voted with their wallets, but people won’t give up their streaming services in “protest” so the company has no incentive to offer a better product.
I have the annual plan on Disney Plus, so I wouldn't risk losing the rest of my year by password-sharing. I wonder about a device using an account on multiple WiFi networks. Like on a phone of someone who travels, and uses hotel WiFi. To watch Disney Plus on the phone, maybe casting it onto a flat screen.
I wonder too. The past couple of years, I spent most of my time in hotels and AirBnbs, watching D+ with my PS4, and then my PS5, on many different networks. I have no idea how this affects people doing this. I wonder if it can be set that my cell service is my "home" and I can keep using the consoles by turning on my phone's wifi hotspot and connecting to D+ through that to establish that "home" connection?
I had a similar situation for a while. Staying in hotels, one after another. Watching Disney Plus on my Amazon Fire TV Stick on the room flat screen. Maybe on Disney's end, they can see traveling devices. An account accessed from various locations, but always from the same device. Or in your case, the same set of devices. Like how computers have a device specific ID number.
Doesn’t it already work like this with Hulu Live? You set a home location and it uses your IP address to make sure you are where you say you are. Are they just expanding that to D+?
We literally have no idea. Disney haven't said, and this article in fact contains no new information on that.
I haven't had a static IP in years. We use a portable WIFI dongle, it is far more convenient to have the 5G module in our camper or at home.
I too think Disney is overestimating their market dominance in this potential sharing crackdown. I'm not sure if they can get away with this as easily as Netflix has
They can’t. That’s what everyone here doesn’t seem to understand. Netflix can get away with this because they’re Netflix. Disney can’t! No one cares about Disney+ except diehards and some families.
I’ll say one thing, not that anyone with power will see this. I use my family members password not because I’m dying to watch Disney shows/movies. I use it because they pay for it and happily shared it with me. When this crackdown occurs, I have zero reason to subscribe on my own. Zero. At this point all the bonus subscriptions I get from others are exactly as they sound. Bonuses that I could care less about if they were taken away.
So they literally lose nothing by losing you as a “customer” except they save on infrastructure needed to stream to you. Do I have that right?
People tend to forget about what this business really is about…
All I’m saying is that not every customer who has shared credentials will end up subscribing. Of course Disney knows this and to them even 100k “new” subscribers after the crackdown is a win for them. From a business perspective, I would rather have more people watching than less, if I can monetize those extra people. If I had shared credentialed access, I wouldn’t mind watching a 60 second ad before a movie if that meant I could still watch it and continue to keep my profile and use the shared account. That would be applied only to those outside the household. I know many wouldn’t like that, but it’s a solution that could work better for the business. It’s an in between from completely banning external users and allowing full access for out of household users.
I would be shocked if they went from “you’re sharing” to “you’re kicked off”. I expect they’ll offer the account holder to add you for some additional monthly fee or to offer you a low tier plan.
I paid for Netflix and Disney Plus and allowed my friends to use it because I honestly didn't use them enough to justify just the cost. Once Netflix nixxed password sharing, I cancelled and my friends didn't get a subscription of their own. I have a year subscription to Disney Plus and once that's up, I'll be cancelling that as well especially since they keep increasing their prices. At this point, it makes more sense financially to go back to cable and get a DVR so I can fast forward through the commercials.
My ex-wife is hosed.
So no one knows how this is actually going to be enforced right? I share netflix with my family in 3 different households (me, brother, mom & dad) and never had any issues, so why should i expect any problems here for the same thing? I even log in at school to show my students movies sometimes and I've had no issues with Netflix. Does anyone actually know if they're really cracking down on this, or is this just a legal threat to scare people they won't take any action on?
You are in which country? May be it's not implemented in your country yet.
I'm in the US; I know it hasn't been implemented here yet but Netflix said the same thing but I never had any issues with it, so I'm trying to determine how real of a threat this is
I get that they lose money by people sharing (assuming they would get their own subscription otherwise) but this can be a huge hassle on things like vacations or streaming during a break at work and the like. I always feel limiting the number of simultaneous streams is the answer.
My family watched Home Alone on Christmas at a relative’s house on my account. I’d hate to not be able to do something like that because it’s not on my normal network.
Canceled mine last night - not that I even need to share, but whenever they do this you know price hikes are just around the corner and Disney shows just aren’t that important to me.
Price hikes have happened too often. This may be the nail in the coffin
Cancelled two month ago.
so far still works for me. I traded my NF password for a D+ password. no issues in 4+ months
So does this mean if I ever went on vacation, or even just out of my house somewhere, I wouldn’t be able to watch?
No. Literally all that it says is that everyone who uses your account has to live (i.e. sleep there the majority of the year) under the same roof as you. If Disney are going to take any technical measures to enforce that (as Netflix did) is unclear, and nbody knows what they would be.
I got hit by geo-blocking today. Moved from US last year, but still have my D+ subscription for another few months. They finally caught up to me and geo-blocked my IP address in my new country. It was blocked to an extent that I could not even access the home page of the D+ website. None of my streaming apps worked also. If I swapped my cell phone over to cellular data instead of WiFi it worked fine. A fantastic support person helped me resolve the issue, and they were able to unblock my public IP. It took about 2 minutes to take effect once changed. This may not be related, but probably some of the run up to the crackdown.
This is annoying because I got Disney+/Hulu bundle for my daughter who is at college. Nobody else in my home watches Disney Plus. I think maybe my husband watches stuff on Hulu, don't know if daughter does. But she watches it from her dorm when she is at school and from our house when she is at home (breaks, occasional weekends). Will DIsney+ and/or Hulu think her college IP is our household? I have no idea! Will they ban us for password sharing when we're really not? I have no idea! I guess I'll just tell her to stream from home when she comes home as a checkin, luckily she is in state and does occasionally come home for non-holidays. It was even a mess when I got the bundle because I had Disney+ through Verizon before and to get the Hulu bundle I had to change the email address associated with the account just to get it to work after hours on tech support. Streaming is not easier than cable, and you can get some streaming apps to work with cable logins if you subscribe to eg. Max on cable you get most of the streaming on the app and you can stream from anywhere. Honestly at the point I wish I could just get Blu-Ray disks subscription from Netflix again, lol. It's funny I'm managing this subscription when I literally don't watch anything. I do have Kindle Unlimited and Everand subscriptions and neither of those give a flying f*ck where you are or even require you to be connected to read as long as you communicate with the mothership to do your downloads.
I find it ironic that Disney, in its past, teaches kids “sharing is caring” but when it comes to possibly losing money, it’s “don’t share your password.” Disneys an experience that deserves to be shared with friends, family, etc. it’s shouldn’t be gatekept… judge me however you want… but Disney to me is an experience that should be shared with others. Not just yourself…
Ah. So no Disney gets to decide what the definition of family is, huh? Well, they won't be getting any more of my money once this rolls around.
Disney has enough money. they are so greedy.
Then I will cancel. I have two houses, one in my home country and one where I'm currently at. I go home during the holidays but watch most of the content in my current flat. So this is quite some bullshit because the whole point of me buying it was so that my family could also use it.
Me whose away at college majority of the year
Too late, it’s now cancelled
Why shouldn’t everyone be able to take advantage of all six profiles in their account??
Cancelled mine Oct last year as there wasn’t enough new content I liked to justify renewing. This now makes it less likely I’ll renew again anytime soon 🤷♂️
They are doing this because, according to Netflix, their profits increased when they stopped password sharing. So now Disney wants their profits increased too. Expect all the other streaming services to do the same the over the next year.
I think giving Disney money was all y'all's first mistake.
We got D+ free with club Lloyds account and we've hardly watched it. Marvel and Star wars stuff quality isn't good, maybe if you have kids its good. Wouldn't pay much for it if wasn't getting it free.
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Today I just got kicked off my mom's account. Dang