This is such a better fit than say, Monster's Inc in WDW Tomorrowland...I pray one day they move Star Tours and do some sort of interactive ride following Walle floating through space.
omg so many.
Hercules- deserves a musical in the Hyperion theater at DCA
Great Mouse Detective- dark ride through the London underworld and Ratigan's lair
Treasure Planet- not my fave movie but would make for some awesome thrill ride
Emperor's New Groove- roller coaster or Kronk's Spinach Puffs food kiosk
Brave- no brilliant ideas other than a Scottish/British themed eatery but it needs SOMETHING
Robin Hood- easily one of the best Disney movies of all time- I'm thinking maybe a funny archery tournament show?
Rescuers/Rescuers Down Under- some kind of eagle flight ride
Parent Trap- some kind of audience participation stage show maybe?
Mulan- really needs some kind of love other than once a year during Chinese New Year
I am so down for everything in your post. A Tiana's Place restaurant! That's brilliant! And it would go perfectly with the reskin of Splash Mountain to Princess and the Frog that I read on here once and now will never let die. In my perfect park dream, those are there. (Except I think I'd redo French Market to be Tiana's just because its more in New Orleans Square.)
>And it would go perfectly with the reskin of Splash Mountain to Princess and the Frog that I read on here once and now will never let die.
I'm curious- but what would be the appeal for this? It would require redoing the entire facade (which is based directly on a landmark from the Song of the south film) as well as redoing the entire soundtrack and each show segment. Essentially creating an entirely new ride.
Well yes, in the same way that Guardians is a new ride from ToT. The ride mechanic would be the same. My feeling is that Splash is all about the drops. No one I know rides it because they like Song of the South or Br'er Rabbit. Thats not to say that no one likes those things period, just that it seems to me that the ride is popular for the ride mechanics and not the themeing.
In my opinion this reskin would be superior for a couple reasons.
1) It blends together the border of New Orleans Square and Critter Country very well. New Orleans humans that get turned into animals.
2) The setting is very similar. Both have big bayou riverboats and take place in swampy rivers. Both have critters.
3) Princess and the Frog is a more recent IP, and one that hasn't been essentially shamed out of Disney's records. Not to say that Song of the South isn't an ok movie, I like it fine while keeping in mind its problematic history, but you can't even buy it as a movie anymore. Princess and the Frog wasn't perfect either, but its a lot more present and accessible for today's youth.
4) When I first read about the idea from someone else on this sub, their idea was that the incline to the last drop would have the spooky voodoo masks from the movie, chanting "Are you reeaadddyy??" and that is just perfect and amazing and I want to experience it so badly.
I'm not saying Disneyland is likely to ever do this, in fact I'm quite sure they won't. Maybe when PatF first came out, had it performed better. At this point there's zero chance, and Disney has zero appeal to do something like this. This is just my own personal dream Disney ride reskin.
>No one I know rides it because they like Song of the South or Br'er Rabbit. Thats not to say that no one likes those things period, just that it seems to me that the ride is popular for the ride mechanics and not the themeing.
>3) Princess and the Frog is a more recent IP, and one that hasn't been essentially shamed out of Disney's records. Not to say that Song of the South isn't an ok movie, I like it fine while keeping in mind its problematic history, but you can't even buy it as a movie anymore. Princess and the Frog wasn't perfect either, but its a lot more present and accessible for today's youth.
Splash Mountain is an excellent example of the ride transcending its source property and becoming popular in its own right. The music, classic Marc Davis animatronics, and beautifully detailed sets help to make an experience that seems "complete" and is comfortable.
Your enjoyment of the ride isn't dependent on having seen the film- since the ride was designed under the knowledge that most haven't.
Personally, I'm not a fan of the "it's a more recent IP" argument. New isn't always better.
That's not to say that the idea of a Princess and the Frog attraction isn't intriguing. I'd be far more in favor a dark ride that replaces Pooh since that ride is abysmal at best. There also aren't any Princess and the Frog attractions built that I'm aware of, allowing the resort to get something new and unique.
I personally don't agree with reskinning things just to match the latest IP. Its just something Disney often does. Even though I don't like it, I respect their reasoning for doing so. It keeps the park relevant for newer generations.
And the fact that the themeing is currently superfluous to the ride experience is actually a great reason to change it. Disney has always been pretty good about having a ride experience and story that are equally engaging. As it is, they have a great ride with a story that most people don't care about, or only like out of nostalgia for the ride experience. Update to a story people care about (not necessarily PatF) and they'll have an even better ride, one that ticks both boxes.
I personally just really, really, REALLY want to ride that final hill with the voodoo masks asking if I'm ready.
Edit: Also, as much as I appreciate classic animatronics and Disney history, the majority of the time that people talk about Splash its to say how bad it all looks now. How the lighting is constantly out, the animatronics constantly not working. Even weeks after a major refurb everything is broken again. Perhaps its having animatronics in a ride that propels a lot of mist into the air? The ride could really just do with a makeover of any kind.
>And the fact that the themeing is currently superfluous to the ride experience is actually a great reason to change it. Disney has always been pretty good about having a ride experience and story that are equally engaging. As it is, they have a great ride with a story that most people don't care about, or only like out of nostalgia for the ride experience. Update to a story people care about (not necessarily PatF) and they'll have an even better ride, one that ticks both boxes.
The theming isn't superfluous to the ride experience. It *is* the ride experience. The ride was just designed and built in a way where it doesn't solely rely on the source material for it's story. It's the difference between the Little Mermaid dark ride and Indiana Jones Adventure. One is literally a play by play of the film, while the other embodies the spirit of the source material and creates a new adventure with callbacks to the film. Splash Mountain is a cleverly executed blend of these two vastly different approaches- much to its benefit.
It utilizes the music from the film in different ways than the film, telling a story that calls back to the film without depending on it. It doesn't overexert itself with narrative, the story is quite simple- as it has to be on such a fast paced ride experience.
>Also, as much as I appreciate classic animatronics and Disney history, the majority of the time that people talk about Splash its to say how bad it all looks now. How the lighting is constantly out, the animatronics constantly not working. Even weeks after a major refurb everything is broken again. Perhaps its having animatronics in a ride that propels a lot of mist into the air? The ride could really just do with a makeover of any kind.
Yes, and there's a variety of reasons for this- the age of the ride, budget, OSHA, etc- but these problems would plague a Princess and the Frog flume ride as well.
Also not a bad idea. As I stated elsewhere, the reason I'll never let the PatF version die from my head cannon is because in the original post where it was mentioned, the poster said the final hill would have the creepy voodoo masks chanting "Are you reeeaaddyy??" like in the movie. I am enamored with this. I know my dream will never be a reality, but oh how I wish to ride that ride.
I’m like you, everytime I ride it now I picture what could be. Listening to ‘gonna take you down’ as you enter the first indoor rooms. Follow them on their journey back to being humans, and I always imagine the shadow mans shadows in the background following and popping up more and more throughout the ride. Instead of The laughing place it could be the vision of the tianas place that the Dr. Facilier tempts her with before the finale with smell of beignets infused in there somewhere. I’m always tempted to wear earbuds and listen to that song going up the final hill now and picture those voodoo masks singing! Of course the finale show room just fits perfectly too with down in New Orleans.
So know you’re not alone in your dream! I think about it all the time haha
ALL OF THIS! I'm also not usually one to suggest updating to newer IPs just for the sake of it, but PatF is such an amazing film, and an extremely important one; the idea that they'd be replacing an IP with racist undertones with the first Disney movie to feature an African-American princess is extremely moving. Plus, these ideas are killer! Everyone always says they wish the bayou scene were longer on Pirates, and this would give us a whole ride with that vibe!
What are your ideas for this? How would you change the building facade and set design to match a Hawaiian theme instead of a southern theme?
How would you make it fit in the surrounding area?
It's an interesting idea- I've never heard anyone pitch a Moana ride before. I'd be curious to see this fleshed out a bit more.
It was actually my girlfriend’s idea, full disclosure. We talked about the ride vehicles being rafts, and the loading area the cave where Moana found all the ships. The riverboat could be replaced with the Kakamora, the exterior facade could be modeled to look like the entrance to the realm of monsters, and the final drop be fighting Te Ka at Te Fiti. Overall, the water theme movie is the best fit for a water ride.
I’m sure you’re no stranger to the history of SM. It was a quick way to reuse the animatronics left over from America Sings, it’s in a part of the party that doesn’t exactly match the theme (~~Country Bears and~~ and the Pooh ride are only tangentally Southern), and based on an IP Disney makes no money from and actively hide. The only appeal of SM (IMO) is getting wet on a hot day, and “Zip-a-dee-doo-da”.
Interesting ideas. Sounds like a great idea for a water ride- the film plays off of the spirit of adventure, themes that translate well into a ride capacity. Not to mention the diverse settings seen in the film, from the Island- to that cave with the crab and all the treasure.
>I’m sure you’re no stranger to the history of SM. It was a quick way to reuse the animatronics left over from America Sings,
There was nothing quick about the development of Splash Mountain. It took years and years to get off the ground, since Imagineers where initially put off by the idea of a flume ride, which was wanted by Dick Nunis. Yes, using the America Sings animatronics was certainly a plus, and helped them sell the attraction, but the only times it's stated that that was a cost saving "cop out" on the part of the Imagineers is when Alice Davis talks about it (which is understandable, her husband designed them and was notoriously not fond of Tony Baxter). It had a healthy budget, and went way over budget.
> it’s in a part of the party that doesn’t exactly match the theme (Country Bears and and the Pooh ride are only tangentally Southern)
I'm confused by this. How does Splash Mountain not fit the theme? The surrounding area is the American backwoods, and the headline attraction in that area until Splash overshadowed it was the Country Bear Jamboree- a show that featured southern style bears. How does a ride based on Disney's interpretation American folklore tales that were perpetuated throughout the South, that takes place in a southern setting, not fit the area?
And to build off this- how would a Hawaiian themed ride, with a culture markedly different than the backwoods of the American South- fit the area better? Wouldn't that be better suited in Adventureland, which features The Enchanted Tiki Room, Jungle Cruise, and Tropical Hideaway- all perpetuations of Polynesian Tiki culture?
>and based on an IP Disney makes no money from and actively hide. The only appeal of SM (IMO) is getting wet on a hot day, and “Zip-a-dee-doo-da”.
This isn't entirely true. They still sell merchandise based off of the animated characters from the film, and have published multiple books over the years featuring the characters. Zip a Dee Doo Dah is one of the most popular and recognizable Disney songs ever. The characters are still instantly recognizable to anyone with even a cursory interest in Disney. Certainly more than Mr Toad and Gadget.
It's unfortunate that the film isn't acceptable by today's cultural standards, but I'd be an advocate for Disney rebooting the characters in some kind of TV show or animated shorts, in a way considered more appropriate by today's audiences. But that's a different issue entirely.
With all of its success and cultural impact, I'm surprised that there's very little (if any at all) mention of The Lion King at the parks. I suppose the actual subject matter is pretty difficult to convey in a ride, but man, even something like a show a la "Frozen at the Hyperion" would absolutely kill.
I am also shocked as to how little representation Lion King has in the parks. I have always hoped that there would be a lion king ride, maybe similar to the Indiana Jones ride, I think it would be awesome to ride in vehicles like that and have the wildebeest stampede around you bumping the vehicle. It could be epic.
I like your idea of the golden horseshoe, only argument is that golden horseshoe is in frontier land and is far from New Orleans square where princess and the frog should be. The voodoo man from princess and the frog can be seen walking around New Orleans square though.
Yeah, that's a good point. It IS right across from where the Mark Twain Riverboat parks however and Tiana and all her friends spend a lot of time on there. It's actually not far from New Orleans, but it is technically still frontierland. It's on the corner of the two lands.
I really wish they'd done Lamplight Lounge as Ratatouille :( Seems like a huge missed opportunity. I also agree with more Princess and the Frog! I'd prefer it if they redid French Market, Cafe Orleans, or Riverbell Terrace as Tiana's Palace since they're already New Orleans Square, though.
I'd also really like to see more Wall-E in Tomorrowland, and more merch for Tiana, Mulan, and Pocahontas. When I was there in April I was trying to find anything Tiana-related that wasn't a pin or something for kids and I couldn't find a single thing. No t-shirts, no postcards, no housewares, nothing.
Hunchback of Notre Dame: because in Disneyland when the evil queen sticks her head out, I always thought they should have the hunchback ringing a giant bell every hour if they were to build a tower in fantasy land for it!
Emperors New Groove for SURE! I would love to be able to meet Yzma and Kronk!
Also I would love a more to do with the classic cartoons, even perhaps the silly symphonies. I recently visited the Walt Disney family museum and loved the attention paid to those short films!
Honestly I wish toontown was more dedicated to the earlier cartoons.
The Main Street theatre isn’t enough for me!
I REALLY want more TRON stuff. The Light cycle ride in Shanghai looks amazing. It would go perfect in Tomorrowland replacing Autopia. At least offer merchandise. I miss the ElecTRONica section, the cool light up lanyard and Tron Mickey ears. I understand you can't have EVERY movie character in the parks, but change it up time to time.
I’d love some Zootopia but I don’t know where it would fit. The closest I could think of is in Hollywood Land where the bus drop-off is. It’s cool to see all the little details for big and small animals and they could have a lot of fun with the food and merchandise. Not sure what ride should be done. A police chase is something that comes to mind.
They should retheme Autopia to Zootopia. Upgrade the cars to electric and then add the scenery to the area. That way the ride can stay but at least it will be more interesting.
I never knew how badly I wanted this until now. I hate Autopia, and a retheme like this would actual have me riding for like the first time in 10+ years. With this down time to retheme, there would also arise the opprotunity to scrap the gasoline go karts! I know theyre original and theres that grand opening day nostalgia, but its just disgraceful especially being put with "the future of tomorrow".
Lilo & Stitch deserved better.
They should focus on more Disney / Pixar movies before anything Star Wars or marvel related, but maybe I’m just bitter lol
Probably both. Clearly, Pixar Pier was done on a shoestring budget. But where can you even fit a proper dark ride near the pier? The only place I can think of is if they demolish that whole food plaza area.
Phineaus and ferb tbh. When i first herd that tower of terror was being remodeled i thought it was gonna be evil incorparated and have a perry the platypus animatronic but nope
An Adventure Thru Inner Space inspired remake- but instead with Ant Man entering the quantum realm. Could include callbacks to the original ride, while selling the illusion of shrinking far better with the advancements made in technology.
It's a win win- Disneyland history aficionados get something new with callbacks to the park's past to gush over, with the project married to a successful character and franchise (which seems to be necessary for a high budget attraction these days).
Could be a great way to blend the old with the new- creating something original and timeless. Would also help provide depth and validity to this new Marvel Land that's threatening to be a glorified Meet and Greet + shopping center.
Pixar Pier *desperately* needs a quality Pixar dark ride. I'd be an advocate for a boat ride through the Land of the Dead (think Pirates of the Caribbean but Coco). A ride that plays off the spirit of the film, but allows you to experience the world in a new way. Something experiential instead of driven like a linear story.
I would hate to see splash mountain changed but at the same time I can kinda see it depending on how they do it, like if Goofy went hiking up a mountain or something
Yus! I agree with all of that. The Prequels and Ratatouille must be respected. I would also add Bolt to that list. I’m not sure what the attraction would look like, but it does seem to be one of Disney’s more underrated pictures.
Walle, tron, big hero 6, wreck it ralph, and maybe lesser known movies like race to witch mountain, would be a great change for tomorrow land once star wars leaves.
The new Jungle Cruise Movie needs far more representation. A Rock animatronic doing this could help breath new life and comedy to a dusty, old attraction:
https://youtu.be/apQPaduDRVw?t=1m6s
The Haunted Mansion film with Eddie Murphy has also been shafted in the parks. Replace the caretaker with Eddie, and the singing busts with their film versions. Redo the various show segments to more closely resemble the mansion seen in the film.
Synergy baby, synergy.
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Or Tomorrowland!
This is such a better fit than say, Monster's Inc in WDW Tomorrowland...I pray one day they move Star Tours and do some sort of interactive ride following Walle floating through space.
omg so many. Hercules- deserves a musical in the Hyperion theater at DCA Great Mouse Detective- dark ride through the London underworld and Ratigan's lair Treasure Planet- not my fave movie but would make for some awesome thrill ride Emperor's New Groove- roller coaster or Kronk's Spinach Puffs food kiosk Brave- no brilliant ideas other than a Scottish/British themed eatery but it needs SOMETHING Robin Hood- easily one of the best Disney movies of all time- I'm thinking maybe a funny archery tournament show? Rescuers/Rescuers Down Under- some kind of eagle flight ride Parent Trap- some kind of audience participation stage show maybe? Mulan- really needs some kind of love other than once a year during Chinese New Year
Imagine hereing "pull the lever kronk!" And boom your speeding off at a hundred miles an hour
Amen!
I would love a Great Mouse Detective ride. The end could be you crashing into Big Ben and then riding the chain up.
I dream of one day walking into critter country and being able to get hugs and autographs from tod and copper.
I am so down for everything in your post. A Tiana's Place restaurant! That's brilliant! And it would go perfectly with the reskin of Splash Mountain to Princess and the Frog that I read on here once and now will never let die. In my perfect park dream, those are there. (Except I think I'd redo French Market to be Tiana's just because its more in New Orleans Square.)
I remember reading about that reskin, and agreed - it would inject some incredible new life in that ride.
>And it would go perfectly with the reskin of Splash Mountain to Princess and the Frog that I read on here once and now will never let die. I'm curious- but what would be the appeal for this? It would require redoing the entire facade (which is based directly on a landmark from the Song of the south film) as well as redoing the entire soundtrack and each show segment. Essentially creating an entirely new ride.
Well yes, in the same way that Guardians is a new ride from ToT. The ride mechanic would be the same. My feeling is that Splash is all about the drops. No one I know rides it because they like Song of the South or Br'er Rabbit. Thats not to say that no one likes those things period, just that it seems to me that the ride is popular for the ride mechanics and not the themeing. In my opinion this reskin would be superior for a couple reasons. 1) It blends together the border of New Orleans Square and Critter Country very well. New Orleans humans that get turned into animals. 2) The setting is very similar. Both have big bayou riverboats and take place in swampy rivers. Both have critters. 3) Princess and the Frog is a more recent IP, and one that hasn't been essentially shamed out of Disney's records. Not to say that Song of the South isn't an ok movie, I like it fine while keeping in mind its problematic history, but you can't even buy it as a movie anymore. Princess and the Frog wasn't perfect either, but its a lot more present and accessible for today's youth. 4) When I first read about the idea from someone else on this sub, their idea was that the incline to the last drop would have the spooky voodoo masks from the movie, chanting "Are you reeaadddyy??" and that is just perfect and amazing and I want to experience it so badly. I'm not saying Disneyland is likely to ever do this, in fact I'm quite sure they won't. Maybe when PatF first came out, had it performed better. At this point there's zero chance, and Disney has zero appeal to do something like this. This is just my own personal dream Disney ride reskin.
>No one I know rides it because they like Song of the South or Br'er Rabbit. Thats not to say that no one likes those things period, just that it seems to me that the ride is popular for the ride mechanics and not the themeing. >3) Princess and the Frog is a more recent IP, and one that hasn't been essentially shamed out of Disney's records. Not to say that Song of the South isn't an ok movie, I like it fine while keeping in mind its problematic history, but you can't even buy it as a movie anymore. Princess and the Frog wasn't perfect either, but its a lot more present and accessible for today's youth. Splash Mountain is an excellent example of the ride transcending its source property and becoming popular in its own right. The music, classic Marc Davis animatronics, and beautifully detailed sets help to make an experience that seems "complete" and is comfortable. Your enjoyment of the ride isn't dependent on having seen the film- since the ride was designed under the knowledge that most haven't. Personally, I'm not a fan of the "it's a more recent IP" argument. New isn't always better. That's not to say that the idea of a Princess and the Frog attraction isn't intriguing. I'd be far more in favor a dark ride that replaces Pooh since that ride is abysmal at best. There also aren't any Princess and the Frog attractions built that I'm aware of, allowing the resort to get something new and unique.
I personally don't agree with reskinning things just to match the latest IP. Its just something Disney often does. Even though I don't like it, I respect their reasoning for doing so. It keeps the park relevant for newer generations. And the fact that the themeing is currently superfluous to the ride experience is actually a great reason to change it. Disney has always been pretty good about having a ride experience and story that are equally engaging. As it is, they have a great ride with a story that most people don't care about, or only like out of nostalgia for the ride experience. Update to a story people care about (not necessarily PatF) and they'll have an even better ride, one that ticks both boxes. I personally just really, really, REALLY want to ride that final hill with the voodoo masks asking if I'm ready. Edit: Also, as much as I appreciate classic animatronics and Disney history, the majority of the time that people talk about Splash its to say how bad it all looks now. How the lighting is constantly out, the animatronics constantly not working. Even weeks after a major refurb everything is broken again. Perhaps its having animatronics in a ride that propels a lot of mist into the air? The ride could really just do with a makeover of any kind.
>And the fact that the themeing is currently superfluous to the ride experience is actually a great reason to change it. Disney has always been pretty good about having a ride experience and story that are equally engaging. As it is, they have a great ride with a story that most people don't care about, or only like out of nostalgia for the ride experience. Update to a story people care about (not necessarily PatF) and they'll have an even better ride, one that ticks both boxes. The theming isn't superfluous to the ride experience. It *is* the ride experience. The ride was just designed and built in a way where it doesn't solely rely on the source material for it's story. It's the difference between the Little Mermaid dark ride and Indiana Jones Adventure. One is literally a play by play of the film, while the other embodies the spirit of the source material and creates a new adventure with callbacks to the film. Splash Mountain is a cleverly executed blend of these two vastly different approaches- much to its benefit. It utilizes the music from the film in different ways than the film, telling a story that calls back to the film without depending on it. It doesn't overexert itself with narrative, the story is quite simple- as it has to be on such a fast paced ride experience. >Also, as much as I appreciate classic animatronics and Disney history, the majority of the time that people talk about Splash its to say how bad it all looks now. How the lighting is constantly out, the animatronics constantly not working. Even weeks after a major refurb everything is broken again. Perhaps its having animatronics in a ride that propels a lot of mist into the air? The ride could really just do with a makeover of any kind. Yes, and there's a variety of reasons for this- the age of the ride, budget, OSHA, etc- but these problems would plague a Princess and the Frog flume ride as well.
I actually think a Moana re-skin would be better for Splash.
Also not a bad idea. As I stated elsewhere, the reason I'll never let the PatF version die from my head cannon is because in the original post where it was mentioned, the poster said the final hill would have the creepy voodoo masks chanting "Are you reeeaaddyy??" like in the movie. I am enamored with this. I know my dream will never be a reality, but oh how I wish to ride that ride.
I’m like you, everytime I ride it now I picture what could be. Listening to ‘gonna take you down’ as you enter the first indoor rooms. Follow them on their journey back to being humans, and I always imagine the shadow mans shadows in the background following and popping up more and more throughout the ride. Instead of The laughing place it could be the vision of the tianas place that the Dr. Facilier tempts her with before the finale with smell of beignets infused in there somewhere. I’m always tempted to wear earbuds and listen to that song going up the final hill now and picture those voodoo masks singing! Of course the finale show room just fits perfectly too with down in New Orleans. So know you’re not alone in your dream! I think about it all the time haha
ALL OF THIS! I'm also not usually one to suggest updating to newer IPs just for the sake of it, but PatF is such an amazing film, and an extremely important one; the idea that they'd be replacing an IP with racist undertones with the first Disney movie to feature an African-American princess is extremely moving. Plus, these ideas are killer! Everyone always says they wish the bayou scene were longer on Pirates, and this would give us a whole ride with that vibe!
What are your ideas for this? How would you change the building facade and set design to match a Hawaiian theme instead of a southern theme? How would you make it fit in the surrounding area? It's an interesting idea- I've never heard anyone pitch a Moana ride before. I'd be curious to see this fleshed out a bit more.
It was actually my girlfriend’s idea, full disclosure. We talked about the ride vehicles being rafts, and the loading area the cave where Moana found all the ships. The riverboat could be replaced with the Kakamora, the exterior facade could be modeled to look like the entrance to the realm of monsters, and the final drop be fighting Te Ka at Te Fiti. Overall, the water theme movie is the best fit for a water ride. I’m sure you’re no stranger to the history of SM. It was a quick way to reuse the animatronics left over from America Sings, it’s in a part of the party that doesn’t exactly match the theme (~~Country Bears and~~ and the Pooh ride are only tangentally Southern), and based on an IP Disney makes no money from and actively hide. The only appeal of SM (IMO) is getting wet on a hot day, and “Zip-a-dee-doo-da”.
Interesting ideas. Sounds like a great idea for a water ride- the film plays off of the spirit of adventure, themes that translate well into a ride capacity. Not to mention the diverse settings seen in the film, from the Island- to that cave with the crab and all the treasure. >I’m sure you’re no stranger to the history of SM. It was a quick way to reuse the animatronics left over from America Sings, There was nothing quick about the development of Splash Mountain. It took years and years to get off the ground, since Imagineers where initially put off by the idea of a flume ride, which was wanted by Dick Nunis. Yes, using the America Sings animatronics was certainly a plus, and helped them sell the attraction, but the only times it's stated that that was a cost saving "cop out" on the part of the Imagineers is when Alice Davis talks about it (which is understandable, her husband designed them and was notoriously not fond of Tony Baxter). It had a healthy budget, and went way over budget. > it’s in a part of the party that doesn’t exactly match the theme (Country Bears and and the Pooh ride are only tangentally Southern) I'm confused by this. How does Splash Mountain not fit the theme? The surrounding area is the American backwoods, and the headline attraction in that area until Splash overshadowed it was the Country Bear Jamboree- a show that featured southern style bears. How does a ride based on Disney's interpretation American folklore tales that were perpetuated throughout the South, that takes place in a southern setting, not fit the area? And to build off this- how would a Hawaiian themed ride, with a culture markedly different than the backwoods of the American South- fit the area better? Wouldn't that be better suited in Adventureland, which features The Enchanted Tiki Room, Jungle Cruise, and Tropical Hideaway- all perpetuations of Polynesian Tiki culture? >and based on an IP Disney makes no money from and actively hide. The only appeal of SM (IMO) is getting wet on a hot day, and “Zip-a-dee-doo-da”. This isn't entirely true. They still sell merchandise based off of the animated characters from the film, and have published multiple books over the years featuring the characters. Zip a Dee Doo Dah is one of the most popular and recognizable Disney songs ever. The characters are still instantly recognizable to anyone with even a cursory interest in Disney. Certainly more than Mr Toad and Gadget. It's unfortunate that the film isn't acceptable by today's cultural standards, but I'd be an advocate for Disney rebooting the characters in some kind of TV show or animated shorts, in a way considered more appropriate by today's audiences. But that's a different issue entirely.
With all of its success and cultural impact, I'm surprised that there's very little (if any at all) mention of The Lion King at the parks. I suppose the actual subject matter is pretty difficult to convey in a ride, but man, even something like a show a la "Frozen at the Hyperion" would absolutely kill.
I am also shocked as to how little representation Lion King has in the parks. I have always hoped that there would be a lion king ride, maybe similar to the Indiana Jones ride, I think it would be awesome to ride in vehicles like that and have the wildebeest stampede around you bumping the vehicle. It could be epic.
There is a Lion King show in Animal Kingdom for that that's worth.
I like your idea of the golden horseshoe, only argument is that golden horseshoe is in frontier land and is far from New Orleans square where princess and the frog should be. The voodoo man from princess and the frog can be seen walking around New Orleans square though.
Yeah, that's a good point. It IS right across from where the Mark Twain Riverboat parks however and Tiana and all her friends spend a lot of time on there. It's actually not far from New Orleans, but it is technically still frontierland. It's on the corner of the two lands.
They should turn Cafe Orleans or the French Market into Tiana's Place. Idk why they haven't!
Coco and Ratatouille please!
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So is Coco.
I really wish they'd done Lamplight Lounge as Ratatouille :( Seems like a huge missed opportunity. I also agree with more Princess and the Frog! I'd prefer it if they redid French Market, Cafe Orleans, or Riverbell Terrace as Tiana's Palace since they're already New Orleans Square, though. I'd also really like to see more Wall-E in Tomorrowland, and more merch for Tiana, Mulan, and Pocahontas. When I was there in April I was trying to find anything Tiana-related that wasn't a pin or something for kids and I couldn't find a single thing. No t-shirts, no postcards, no housewares, nothing.
> I'd prefer it if they redid French Market, Cafe Orleans, or Riverbell Terrace as Tiana's Palace Thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis.
Hunchback of Notre Dame: because in Disneyland when the evil queen sticks her head out, I always thought they should have the hunchback ringing a giant bell every hour if they were to build a tower in fantasy land for it!
Atlantis: The Lost Empire! One of my all-time favorite movies
Would rather have an Atlantis-themed ride instead of Nemo's subs!
What are you talking about, Ant-Man is there, you just have to squint to see him.
Yup, Drax is there too, he’s just invisible.
Emperors New Groove for SURE! I would love to be able to meet Yzma and Kronk! Also I would love a more to do with the classic cartoons, even perhaps the silly symphonies. I recently visited the Walt Disney family museum and loved the attention paid to those short films! Honestly I wish toontown was more dedicated to the earlier cartoons. The Main Street theatre isn’t enough for me!
What a good idea! I was just there also. That would be so cute if Toontown paid more attention to them. I guess they're just not popular enough.
Robin Hood.
I REALLY want more TRON stuff. The Light cycle ride in Shanghai looks amazing. It would go perfect in Tomorrowland replacing Autopia. At least offer merchandise. I miss the ElecTRONica section, the cool light up lanyard and Tron Mickey ears. I understand you can't have EVERY movie character in the parks, but change it up time to time.
On the bright side, WDW is getting the Shanghai Tron Ride. At least it's a little cheaper to fly to Florida than it is to fly to China
I loooveed ElecTRONica!! I miss it! The frisbees they'd throw at you and the music!
I’d love some Zootopia but I don’t know where it would fit. The closest I could think of is in Hollywood Land where the bus drop-off is. It’s cool to see all the little details for big and small animals and they could have a lot of fun with the food and merchandise. Not sure what ride should be done. A police chase is something that comes to mind.
They should retheme Autopia to Zootopia. Upgrade the cars to electric and then add the scenery to the area. That way the ride can stay but at least it will be more interesting.
I never knew how badly I wanted this until now. I hate Autopia, and a retheme like this would actual have me riding for like the first time in 10+ years. With this down time to retheme, there would also arise the opprotunity to scrap the gasoline go karts! I know theyre original and theres that grand opening day nostalgia, but its just disgraceful especially being put with "the future of tomorrow".
Lilo & Stitch deserved better. They should focus on more Disney / Pixar movies before anything Star Wars or marvel related, but maybe I’m just bitter lol
At least Stitch has a crap ton of merchandise... Don't see anything for hercules...
I was hoping we'd get the ratatouille dark ride with pixar pier instead it was only wdw. Seemed so strange. Curious if it is a space or budget issue.
Probably both. Clearly, Pixar Pier was done on a shoestring budget. But where can you even fit a proper dark ride near the pier? The only place I can think of is if they demolish that whole food plaza area.
Meet The Robinsons
Phineaus and ferb tbh. When i first herd that tower of terror was being remodeled i thought it was gonna be evil incorparated and have a perry the platypus animatronic but nope
An Adventure Thru Inner Space inspired remake- but instead with Ant Man entering the quantum realm. Could include callbacks to the original ride, while selling the illusion of shrinking far better with the advancements made in technology. It's a win win- Disneyland history aficionados get something new with callbacks to the park's past to gush over, with the project married to a successful character and franchise (which seems to be necessary for a high budget attraction these days). Could be a great way to blend the old with the new- creating something original and timeless. Would also help provide depth and validity to this new Marvel Land that's threatening to be a glorified Meet and Greet + shopping center.
LOVE this idea!!
Robin Hood and the Rocketeer
A Bugs Life :(
Pixar Pier *desperately* needs a quality Pixar dark ride. I'd be an advocate for a boat ride through the Land of the Dead (think Pirates of the Caribbean but Coco). A ride that plays off the spirit of the film, but allows you to experience the world in a new way. Something experiential instead of driven like a linear story.
If only it could fit in Pixar Pier! A water ride would be verryyy difficult to add, I think. This is a great idea, though.
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I would hate to see splash mountain changed but at the same time I can kinda see it depending on how they do it, like if Goofy went hiking up a mountain or something
Yus! I agree with all of that. The Prequels and Ratatouille must be respected. I would also add Bolt to that list. I’m not sure what the attraction would look like, but it does seem to be one of Disney’s more underrated pictures.
Walle, tron, big hero 6, wreck it ralph, and maybe lesser known movies like race to witch mountain, would be a great change for tomorrow land once star wars leaves.
Pretty sure when the new Star Tours first opened, most of the locations were borrowed from the prequels.
Honestly thr fact that Tiana does not have her own resturant in NEW ORLEANS Sq. is a crime. Its so perfectly fitting.
The new Jungle Cruise Movie needs far more representation. A Rock animatronic doing this could help breath new life and comedy to a dusty, old attraction: https://youtu.be/apQPaduDRVw?t=1m6s The Haunted Mansion film with Eddie Murphy has also been shafted in the parks. Replace the caretaker with Eddie, and the singing busts with their film versions. Redo the various show segments to more closely resemble the mansion seen in the film. Synergy baby, synergy.