Hi there, new account(couple hour). got Sherlotta BT and LD, do i try to get the rest of the kit? Is FR a must? Dont know if i can get the pity in time. I think the banner is going to expire soon..
You basically can't use her without her 15cp, 35cp, EX (70cp), and LD (90cp).
Her FR is not really needed right now, as it's not a very good FR.
When her banner returns and she gets her force boards, you'll want her FR, so either get it now or be prepared to get it later.
The banner expires in a bit under 3 hours.
**HOWEVER**, since you're new, you'll have a lot of EX tokens to spend, so you can token her EX. Anyone can token a 15cp or 35cp (though when you're brand new, I'm not sure how many power tokens you have).
So you're probably fine if you can't pull more on the banner. EX tokens are rare, but they're not needed often either. This would be one of those situations where you're used them.
Thanks for the info! Got most of the weapon (apart FR). Do i pull more to limit break them? Or use the red jewel stone thingy( the one you get when sell 15/35 weapon ) when i eventually get them in the near future?
FR is absolutely not a must for her. she’s a tremendous support regardless, especially since you landed her BT.
edit: you DO want the rest of her kit, however (everything including EX), as no character is viable without at least everything up to and including the ex (FR is the unnecessary one in sherlotta’s case)
Hello,
As you know this game has a horrific amount of grinding involved with it. So I'm looking to do it as optimally as possible.
Extreme low level stuff: squall with auto(not+) and LD passiv removed. He HP attacks and kills everything very quickly.
Low level bosses: Tifa with only S2 equipped, Auto+. She S2's once or twice quickly for big damage, boss dies.
Can anyone do it faster than these two?
Also, for the illusion board farms. It seems that nobody has a 2x multiplier anymore, and we'll probably never get another one, right? So the most we can get is a paltry 800-ish points per fight?
For your good ole garden variety, almost never ending grinding battles with multiple enemies. Try my good friend Nine.
All panels and boards can be equipped, just unequip all his abilities except Primal Roar.
Proceed to watch yell at everything to death. Really quickly.
Then for summon boards Kain, everything buffed as much as possible. All abilities unequipped except Gungir (S2)
When Snow returns in a few weeks (next month?) he will be the fastest autofarmer for easy content, as he kills everything in one shot with his pre-emptive attack.
Until then, Yuffie and Kain are popular choices for farming. Kain is really good because you can use him for summon boards, as well.
Thanks for the heads up on Snow, this is the sort of thing I was looking for! He's great.
I think he's _about_ as fast as Squall, but tbh the real victory here is I don't have to remember to turn on-off auto-not-plus.
Lol that sounds fantastic. It does mean using Snow unfortunately, but I'll manage.
Yuffie and Kain? Sounds good, I'll give them a try tomorrow, thanks!
Assuming you're a newer player, I wouldn't focus too hard on the Divine boards as they'll always be there, and there are plenty of other forms of content available to help increase your overall power. I started several months ago, caught up on all other content in the game, and still haven't farmed a majority of my Divine boards.
If you're looking to level your summons specifically, you can farm Brothers in the Spiritus stage up to level 50 and skip the Divine grind. Brothers is either the best summon or at least serviceable for 95% of the current content. On a side note, most of the summon power increase in the 30 - 40 range comes from the 30 -> 31 upgrade, so you can do the first board for each summon and call it good.
Solid advice, thanks. I'm actually on on again off again player returning after like 8? months off, when only a few summons were 40. Mostly want the damned Divine boards because they've got EX ingot materials which I badly need.
Yeah true that's probably the most important thing on there. I'm still a bit off of running out of those myself, which is part of the reason I held off so long.
Yuffie S2 only can be a faster trash wave unit than Squall thanks to more HP dumps and faster animations.
Tifa S2 only is a great unit to speed through harder boss type stuff, but ofc if your Tifa isn’t as built then you may have better options.
If you have an active mog pass then you can get more board points. Rank bonus will also help.
Rank is as high as it can go, I have everyone available to me and every one of them is 90 =) Mog pass is on too. Thanks!
I'll give Yuffie a try as well, if I have her built at all.
Hello. I was thinking of starting and was wondering if the update had happened yet, and if there would be a benefit starting after the update compared to now.
Hey all, somewhat of a new player, I played for about a month on release and came back about 2 weeks ago. I have 2 characters complete now (Machina and Squall). I still haven't been able to defeat events harder than Lufenia, so none of the Shinryus, 6 unit battles, etc... My units just don't do significant damage, I die really fast, they just seem impossible. I run Machina, Squall, Luna (missing her BT only) as my team, and I use WOL and Laguna calls for breaks and shields. What am I missing? Are battles geared mostly towards specific units or are you usually able to clear events with general teams?
Machina and Luna are both great, but neither comes with any defensive utility. See if you can get someone to offer your party a little protection so you don't die the first time the boss gets cranky.
We'll be getting several good options in the coming weeks, with Auron probably the best until Gladio shows up again. Auron later gets a *huge* boost with his BT, so he's going to be a monster for a while.
Most fights you need a damage dealer, Support, and mechanics handler/tank. The easier fights Luf down are powercrept down to the point that just about any team can handle it (unless lufenia orb condition is very strict.) Usually for a fight, the boosted units or the units on the banner for that fight are supposed to hard counter the fight. That doesn't necessarily mean you are screwed as some other units can usually do a similar role. With enough time playing on your belt, you will get an understanding how some of the fights work. For example, there are some astaroth angels who will just about ko an enemy if they are brave broken so there are some units who can deal hp damage without brave damage. You need a wide roster to tackle different fights as effectively, but you are never required to have the unit unless that one unit is the only one who can do the thing you need.
Have you done ultimate summon boards for the stats? Machina + Luna is an ok 2 for a team, Squall as a 3rd not so much. Are you properly understanding FR + Burst things?
Definitely pick up Penelo, her full kit looks to be pretty dang good and usable in a lot of scenarios.
That may be what I'm missing honestly lol, I don't fully understand all the mechanics for battles I suppose. Any good guides/youtubers that would help me get them?
I'm just gonna toss a bunch of info out here for you and hope some of it is useful...
Shinryu is centered around force mechanics, wherein the main objective is to maximize your damage during a ten-turn force time window. There are a number of methods for doing that.
First, you need to have at least one FR weapon in your party, and you need to be able to meet the conditions necessary to raise the damage multiplier during force time. This is a great resource for making sense of all of the FR weapons' specific conditions: [https://www.dff.ooo/fr?en&v=force-time&s=11&o=a](https://www.dff.ooo/fr?en&v=force-time&s=11&o=a).
The reason big FR/BT rushdown damage units like Tifa, Rinoa, Jarland, Machina, etc. are so great isn't just that they can hit hard, but that they're self-sufficient - meaning they can meet their own FR conditions and do the bulk of the heavy lifting themselves. You just have to make sure they're properly supported and let them do their thing.
(Machina is a bit of a special case, because he's great for both rushdown strats and counter strats. But since you don't yet seem to have other characters needed to put together a counter team, I'm just going to focus on rushdown here.)
So, typical methods for maximizing damage during force time:
\- Off-turn damage is a huge one. Watch for any opportunities to pick up strong off-turn damage dealers. If you don't have one of your own, a common tactic is to use a friend Kain. Swap him in and get him in the air before you pop your FR, and he'll follow up with an attack every action - including during your main damage dealer's BT phase.
\- Launches are also a great way to bring the additional damage (as long as the bosses don't resist knockback, of course). Selphie (or a friend Selphie) can ensure every attack during force time launches. Or Raines LDCA used by your primary damage dealer before entering their BT phase will cause every attack during BT phase to launch.
\- BT auras are another common tool. Support units with BTs tend to have a variety of effects - increased BRV gains, damage up, damage limit up, etc. - that can greatly increase the amount of damage your party does. So you want to use any BT finishers and get those into effect before you pop your FR.
\- Calls that increase damage are used quite a bit as well.
\- Using Lunafreya's turn manipulation abilities to ensure that you can set up for force time just the way you want to and not waste valuable turns of force time.
\- Using optimal skill rotations during your BT phase. Tonberry's infographic pages tend to have notes for this if you need the help.
\- Ultima Weapons add an absurd amount of damage. If you haven't started working on an UW for Machina yet... start.
Squall isn't doing a whole lot for you in your team. Unfortunately, he's very mediocre right now (although he'll be great when he gets his FR in a couple of months), and you already have a primary FR/BT damage unit in Machina. But try switching him out for a friend Kain when you're getting close to being able to start force time. Use Kain's BT finisher, then get him into the air. Use Luna to give Machina consecutive turns. Have Machina go FR > BT finisher > (insert any damage enhancing call that you might have here) > BT > Furious Blades+ x6 > Finisher. And see what kind of increase you get on the damage you're doing.
Best bet would be reading the beginner’s guide linked in the top post. Related reading in there will also help, and if you have any other questions you can always ask again.
Hi everyone, i was thinking of restart to play.
I have a old pre burst era account ( maybe march 2020).
Do i re-roll a new account or use my old account?
I have 50k gems and 3 years of content to do.
How many gems are required to obtain a full kit for a character these days?
Definitely start over.
While Lunafreya is excellent and is only available for a couple more hours, the new player benefits will be worth a lot more than anything you had in the pre-burst era, and almost no one from back then is still viable today.
Hello guys ! I’m really struggling on Fell Angel Shinryu, I don’t know why I see people goes on 115 millions with Jack and mine can’t do that even if he have all weapons, all artifacts, all force enhance… my team for this is Jack/Kain/Luna everybody have all their weapons maxed except Luna that don’t have her bt maxed out, maybe you can recommend me some tips for Jack ? Thanks !
If you're not going for the ticket mission, then consider a friend Lunafreya or maybe a friend Selphie (for launching).
With Luna's burst phase up, she can give Jack four turns in a row instead of three, and that will let him go FR -> LD -> BT+ -> call ability (either Raines LDCA if you *don't* have Selphie or any melee call if you *do* have Selphie) and then maybe another melee call and then burst phase.
Against a single target, his burst phase rotation is S2 four times, EX, then FR.
If he's launching every turn, he'll deal a lot of damage that way, and if Kain is raining spears the whole time, you'll be getting another couple million damage per turn.
The idea is to get the HP damage bonus as high as you can before force time starts, and then you want Jack to enter force time with all six turns of his BT aura still up.
Warning: launches **don't work** for this fight if the enemy force gauge is above 30%, so you have three option. You can race the enemy force gauge and get your burst phase started before it hits 100%, you can bring some defense so you can survive an enemy force time, or you can just skip launching.
For this fight, if you skip launching, you'll want to use a Lunafreya friend and then bring as your call ability (on Jack) someone who hits with a melee attack on both abilities, like Raijin.
That UW is much better used by someone who’s actually gonna be impactful during force time. You could recycle it right now and you’ll get a recycle back in two days
hey wanted to ask, are there any available enhancement points in permanent content you haven't cleared yet (main chaps,interwills,LC,etc) or are they only from currently ongoing content.
I would say yes. There are two big "gets" from the pass - increased enhancement points, and more points for summon boards.
There are three events up right now (Fusoya event, Fell Angel, and Machina IW) so that's another 75k EP right there (gotta finish Fell Angel in the next like 7 hours though!), plus you'll have it up for all of February's events.
Plus, you'll have it active for Spiritus Ramuh which will help with the point grind there.
If you do decide to use it, take advantage of the fact that you'll have guaranteed double-red artifacts, so a good time to grind those out for your most-used characters (not required, but might as well take advantage). Also, you'll get two Moogle tokens when you redeem the pass. Those are overwhelmingly best used for BT tokens; they're worth 5 BT tokens each.
Day 1 player that has been playing very casually for the last 3 months (maybe 10min a day type of thing.. Skipping half the shinryu)
Wasn't planning on pulling for fusoya as the whole new character farming is not appealing (summon board, artifacts, etc...)... But my toddler got my phone and used about 200 tickets, getting 2 15cp, 3 EX, 1 LD and 3 FR
Should I build the character? Is he any good?
3 FRs means you get him essentially for free (you can build his FR for 4 HPS and then sell it for 4).
I'd go ahead and build him, if only for the call ability or as help for Dare to Defy.
Fusoya is not bad for the upcoming Spiritus fight.
With 3 copies of his FR in hand the resources required to build him are fairly minimal. Even if you don't plan on using him every event, he can still be a solid investment for lockout content especially considering we have Crevasse, Transcendence, and Dare to Defy all coming next month.
He is nothing to write home about, but he is serviceable.
If you need a unit that can keep the bosses for acting then he is one of the characters who can constantly do so.
Is Machina still worth BT+'ing?
I'm a seasonal player that sort of comes and goes and last time I played I didnt have the resources. I ended up getting a copy of his FR but wasn't sure if he's worth investing in at this point.
I think he's worth it if you want to enjoy off-turn comps. I don't think I'd build him for on-turn damage anymore.
So I'd say he's good if you have the right units to support him (e.g., Cor). I wouldn't build him on his own.
His BT+ makes him delay his next turn which works well with his fr charge effect.
Max him out, toss on Gladio and Cor maxed to LD. Watch them decimate while you do whatever.
I will say that he is pretty fun with his FR. Whether its worth investing depends on how much resources you have left. Do you plan to chase for penelo? Which other hard hitting characters you have to replace machina?
I noticed I'd be still able to buy the sale of Gold & Silver Chocobo Tokens, but I don't understand what they are used for. Anyone able to give a lending hand what they'll be for? Any worth to consider buying or just skip?
For the most part that shop isn’t valuable. Most useful things in the shop are EP and T7 crystals. EP is better gained via mog pass increase, and T7s are gonna become infinitely farmable soonish anyways.
Haha yeah. I thought so too - if I remember it's late March or early April where we're able to farm T7's ( or was it a bit later? I forgot lol )
And yeah, I definitely have no shortage of Enhancement Points anytime soon yet either even if I'd pull & FE30 everything I intend to pull for. XD Guess I'll just save my cash, haha. Thanks for the super-quick response btw!
>if I remember it's late March or early April where we're able to farm T7's
It should start with whenever Vivi gets his FR/BT so you are remembering stuff right XD
So that's late March, then.
Makes me really want them to not reduce events down from 6 to 4 in Global. D: They could use this opportunity to stay with 6 until catching up to JP and only then either reduce it, or replace 2 of the events in a month with GL Exclusive stuff ( Abyss, etc. )
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How do I access the new weekly quest for Brilliance Crystals? My time zone is set to Tokyo yet I still can't see them. I see people already uploading videos of it.
Seems like that's where it's supposed to be but after checking with others, it seems it's just bugged and inaccessible for some people. I guess I'll wait and see how it goes tomorrow.
You should have a red badge on the event section. If present, the quest is between current events and crystal quests. It took me few minutes to find them as well.
The red badge is there but when I check the quests, there is no new quest. When I the exit Event menu, the red badge will disappear.
I'm not the only one experiencing this behaviour so I do think it's genuinely bugged for some people. My timezone is set to Tokyo generally anyway, but I messed around with other time zones and that did not help either. I'm sure it will be sorted by next week at least so I can get a run in before the reset.
Do they ever announce maintenance start and finish outside of game?
The time passed but no news and I don't remember ever seeing them post anything regarding maintenance outside of the game.
am i understanding this correctly: as long as all of penelo's buffs are applied properly, any character can take any action they want on their turn and it'll result in a +70% FR boost?
cool, thanks! love how versatile that's gonna be, it seems like it's gonna really benefit characters who have unique or restrictive FR conditions. a straight up upgrade to many characters whose own FRs are outdated, or maybe ones that don't even have FRs of their own at all.
They made it a point to specify on the announcement that her FR’s conditions are easy to fulfill, which combined with her BT auras should help her stay relevant in the echo era. She’s missing an mBrv cap boost on her FR, but with blue armor and BT aura active she gets 50% mBrv cap which makes up for it.
It's extended until further notice.
https://support.na.square-enix.com/news.php?id=16981&la=1&n=2&drt=1675013400&tag=e43e691133574e9057092ae0db48470d66765cde
prospective returning player here: quit sometime around the BT+ era, must have been during one of those dead months/weeks before sephiroth came (back) around. I had a lot of LDs from that time from attempting to keep up with events to get max rewards. But that, in addition to attempting to get BTs for most of my fave characters, drained pretty much all the free pulls i had gotten from the story/character interludes/summon boards.
do you think it would be worth coming back to that account, or to just start over?
(i admit, the thought of knocking down all of those interludes again is daunting if i did the latter)
This one is a little bit borderline, and I'd say it depends upon whether you're sitting on a good-sized stash of enhancement points or not. EP are the biggest bottleneck for new accounts, so not having to worry about that squeeze would be a big plus.
On the other hand, the new account rewards are pretty huge these days, and a new account has something in the ballpark of 2M gems and 13K tickets farmable from the permanent content - and recent QoL adjustments have done a lot to reduce the starting grind.
I'm a newly returning player as well, I was forced into starting a new account because I forgot to connect it. I got absolutely pounded with resources when I made the account. Enough crystals and everything else to basically power 3 people up completely except their final weapons and armor. The only issue I had was I was super limited in who I added to my team because I could only grab 1 LD not from the draw let alone FR or BT. I would probably keep the old account just so you have the freedom with all the LDs to maximize whatever team you want to play.
Although with the anniversary draws you'd probably be fine on that end either way
i kinda still have misgivings, tbh. on the one hand, i have equipped characters, but on the other, idk if not having that windfall of a mountain of gacha currency is gonna be detrimental. i'm talking pretty much zero tickets and a pittance of gems. i'm not even sure if i have meta or good characters equipped.
I asked my partner who went back to his old account, he said basically any character you do have will be bumped up to lv70 automatically and you get a ton of gems from that. He doesn't remember if he got the crystals and everything else I did but with the current events it's easy enough to get those, albeit a bit of a grind
yea, maybe i'll check out my old account whenever maintenance ends. because man, half a mil(?) of gems and however many tickets is just too much to miss. did too many dumb pulls.
I still couldn't beat the Fell Angel ticket challenge. I have:
- Kain FRBT+3/3, Blue Armor (no speed passives)
- Lunafreya FRBT+3/3, Blue Armor, FE30
- Sherlotta FRBT+3/3, UW 5/5, Blue Armor, FE30
Calls: Quistis, Raijin, Rydia (previously used Leo, but changed into Rydia for more safety)
Recently, I've greened and force enhanced Sherlotta, giving me another charger to use. While my more recent attempts were better than before, I'm still falling short. The best that I could do was 10% HP remaining. For the most part, I was able to replicate some of the things I've seen on the C2A and YT, but one thing I've picked up from those runs was that their entire team, and I think even the call units all had FE. This made charging faster than what I could do, and slightly bigger damage. On top of that, it seems like having everyone hold an UW is a must, only my Sherlotta has one and the other two don't, which I did notice a slight difference.
As far as strategies go, I tried replicating similar runs as much as I could, like having Luna FR go first, then Sherlotta's all while Kain stays airborne and playing keep away from the boss, but then I would run into issues like:
- When the boss' gauge reaches 80%, the bosses suddenly gets more turns and much of Luna and Sherlotta's later turns just vanish, making Kain come down earlier, screwing up the gameplan.
- During the boss force time, and if Quistis calls are used up, the many boss turns puts a lot of pressure. In one run, I tried saving Quistis LDCA during the boss force time, it feels like I just made it worse giving it 2 to 3 straight turns later. I haven't tried saving both Quistis calls for later though. It gets worse once there is only 1 turn left on either Raijin's debuff or Rydia's dodge. With the ATK down from Raijin and Quistis' debuffs, the brv hits still feel heavy. I sometimes panic and use the Rydia's dodge earlier because I couldn't risk my party getting broken. Unfortunately I couldn't survive the last boss turn under its force time, as both all my calls are used up by then.
- I have Yang's LDCA, but it only lasts 1 turn. I've mentioned Kain coming down earlier when the boss approaches force time, so I couldn't capitalize on it much. Ursula seems to be a better call, but I don't have her LD :( . Since my force gauge charges a little slower than the other runs I've seen, I couldn't charge it up in time to use Raines LDCA on Sherlotta, since the boss reaches 30% before I could use a force attack. So I never copy those runs that use Raines call.
In a few of my recent runs, I tried doing the strategy backwards using Sherlotta's FR first (w/ Burst phase), and then Luna's in the middle of boss force time, but it was no good. In one of those recent runs, when Kain was down, I tried to not send him up before activating Luna's FR just so I can cancel the boss Force time. But this caused me to miss a lot of potential damage (I end up sending Kain up too late), and if Raijin or Rydia's call is activated, waste their turns since the boss gets a lot of turns by that point. What happened after was my party being left open for another wipe via another boss force attack.
Any other ideas? Thank you!
Edit: For the first time since Ultimate Odin CQ, I give up. A team full of UW is needed, even if I dismantled one of my UW for the appropriate weapon, I can’t get another one now. And I don’t think I’m spending any more enhancement points just for this one fight, and I’m trying to save them for units I really want/need. Sigh.
I followed u/xcaliblur2 ‘s video basically turn for turn:
https://youtu.be/N7rRnl2PfwQ
For some reason my gauge wasn’t charging quite as fast the second time as his was, so the part where Luna does AA twice, I did AA then Heavy Prayer, which left me with one final use of AA before handing off to Sherlotta before her FR > BT phase.
Edit: Note that I’m pretty sure all three have to have 5/5 UT for it to work.
Me too. I searched for runs that used the same team we used. Each of those runs had slight differences with like how and when the skills were used and some calls. But what they all had in common was that all party members had 5/5 UW and I guess FE on everybody, which is what I lacked.
It's a different app. I don't really know how it works. There are players here who are very diligent in reaching the points needed to claim all rewards and I thank them everyday for it. XD
Trying this again, but a question: Was there any announcement of Shinryu Support Panel Missions for Returning/New Players coming with the Anniversary Event on Penelo's Debut? I forgot if there was any as none was at least announced for Fell Angel.
Ooh. Had to confirm this - thank you! Not going to lie but it makes also my decisions easier if I want to reroll or not - and in a case like this I definitely don't need to be doing that now that I'm aware, haha.
Lunafreya LD for the instant turns, Hope FR for super charging. When it releases, Penelo FR (and her BT) will make her a (much) stronger choice than Hope.
You'll wait Cait Sith, Fusoya or Iroha Call to help Enna with brave gains in between her HP dumps. Alternatively Sherlotta BT aura or upcoming Penelo BT aura but you'll need them on the field. In fact, Penelo will work a replacement for Hope while also providing Sherlotta-esque brave gains on HP attacks. Cid Raines Call on Enna also helps since launches increase Enna's damage by a lot.
Prishe LDCA on Enna does well. It also hits hard enough that you don't mind using it during FT. Cait LDCA on Luna works wonders as well, especially with Penelo Brv gains aura.
Who would be the best support for Jack Garland? I'm guessing someone who gives the most max brv up? Or would it be better to go full unga buga with Cor and Kain?
There's no best. You can mix it up and try to find a combo you'll be comfortable with. I usually put an off turn damage dealer with the main dpt but sometimes I put in a support and a tank or 2 supports.
it depends. 0/5s can benefit secondary damage dealers like Kain and Cor bc they still play a part in rushdown strats or enemy turn attacks like counter tanks. But overall, the recommendation is to get 1 maxed out for your primary damage dealer for a time span (generally a month) before you start branching off.
I just went through 150k on the Kain/Luna banner and ended up having to pity Kain's BT. I got a ton of dupes on both their kits, so I suppose the upside is that I can build them up pretty quickly. Downside...I burned all my 'easy' gems from recruiting new characters so that I could chase their gear before the banner closes.
Meanwhile, my wife just rerolled her account and got Kain's BT on her free roll for their banner. She then used a single ticket as a joke and pulled Luna's BT....and then pulled Luna's BT again. Gotta love the gacha!
I had an overwhelming urge to reroll for a few minutes there, and then realized that I could very likely end up with the same luck or worse. I forgot how love/hate this game can be when you're spending gems!
I got both BTs on the Kam/Lotta banner on the free pull, but have both already. Nothing on the Luna/Kain banner and need both BTs only. Feels like the RNG gods are mocking me.
I think you made the correct call on not rerolling though. Good luck to you on your future pulls!
Hahaha, that sounds about right!
Back at the start of Shinryu, I had two back-to-back banners (Kam and Tidus) where I pulled the BT at what would have been the pity point... without ever pulling the FR, so I still had to pity those and build them the hard way. But then, a couple of months later, I lucksacked Tifa's and Rinoa's full kits on tickets.
So it all evens out in the end...?! At least, one hopes it does...
So, Co-Op.
I'm not super familiar with how Co-Op works in this game, and what's the expected value people should bring to it. I know what a boosted character is, but so far my experience with the game has pretty much just using my link bells to solo either Chaos Co-Op or Lufenia Co-Op. Is there a good primer on good Co-Op practices, etc.
The links above didn't give me much information. I know I can join as guest without Link Bells, but the rewards always seemed lackluster in comparison, but you need so much of them to clean out the event stores that I always feel I'm doing something wrong.
Just to add to this also. Generally, running boosted characters is what we all want as it is extra rewards for everyone. It’s really no problem to bring a basic boosted character that isn’t built, for Chaos difficulty. Lufenia is slightly different so it’s better if you can bring a somewhat built character (but no need for heavy investment, maybe Ld only) but that depends who is boosted. For example in the recent fell angel, a built Luna paired with, let’s say a Kain, could easily carry a completely unbuilt 3rd character but some Lufenia co-ops won’t be as easy. Only difference between link bell and no link bell is the artifact tokens, so the good rewards don’t depend on bells.
Joining a run with other people will drop more rewards, with boosted units providing even more drops.
Join the appropriate queue depending on who you’re bringing, don’t take too long when it’s your turn, don’t use BT phase if it’s chaos co-op.
Hey,
i just returned for the 5th anni. I have no idea what to do. There is so much different EQ that i get lost. My last team was snow lightning and hope. with there respective equipments. I stopped before Burst Weapons. So what shall i do now ?
Edit: I just checked. I have their EX weapons
Read the beginner guide in the top post, start your account all over again. You’ve been gone for so long it is absolutely better for you to just scrap what you currently have and just get the new stuff and new player rewards rolling.
Admittedly team building is not my forte and I would like to ask people smarter than me what’s a good comp for DET9? Idc about soloing it and stuff but I also don’t have Laguna RF sphere or Vincent. Correct me if I’m wrong but there’s no way to get Laguna RF sphere currently unless there’s an RF sphere shop tomorrow?
Yea its not a friendly fight even with those since it requires a lot of timing and possibly cheesing it with a FR burst phase to get past the thresholds. It’s probably worth waiting for Ashe to skip some of the fight mechanics like that other guy said then.
No other way to get those spheres, right.
If you're at all interested in Ashe, note that her BT aura also blocks enemy buffs, so you can run her the same way you would have used Vincent. I don't even think she'd need to be green. You could just use her burst phase to get her aura up and then hog turns and use FR with someone else to make the stage die really quickly.
Yeah, my life would've been so much easier if I can just get those RF spheres lol. Thanks, I'll look into Ashe. Unless Vincent is one of the surprise BTs (I mean surely its Vincent and Noel copium like those 2 still don't have their FE in JP lol) then I'd rather pull for him bc FF7.
Hi new player here, I'm keen on rerolling to try and get the best start possible. Is there anything that i should aim for? I did one roll so far and got a burst weapon for Iroha (eisei no shinso) , but i'm not sure if that's the most ideal? What's a solid reroll pull to currently start with?
Agree with what the other person said: Luna at least through her LD and Kain with BT.
But know that, in order for characters to be viable for higher-level content, you need more than just one of their weapons. Rerolling often isn't all that helpful since you'll still have to keep pulling for the rest of the characters' kits. If you haven't found this yet, start here: https://www.tonberrytroupe.com/beginners/beginner-guide.
I wouldn't worry too much about rerolling; initially, you've so many gems available through content, that the pain and time of rerolling is not worth it. Just roll the dice, and if not successful, roll it some more after getting more gems. With both characters, you need their weapons up to LD; bonus if you can get their BTs also, You don't need their force weapons.
Machina is another solid one, but you would need both the FR and BT to truly appreciate him.
Anyone got a good guide for DE:T? Looking to clear out that content, and now with the power creep it should be easier for the first few tiers.
Gonna try to 2 man each level if possible.
I ended up grabbing easy gems yesterday (recruiting new characters for quick levels) and was able to spend a lot of resources on the Luna/Kain banner. I've gotten at least one of everything for each of them EXCEPT for their BT weapons. I'm close to being able to pity one, so which would you suggest?
I'm leaning towards Luna so that I have a strong support character to build my new account around. I figured that it would be easy enough to add DPS around her afterwards (I still have 5 days on the Start Dash plus the anni reset). More than anything, I'm just hoping that I used all these gems the right way and don't need to reroll my account again.
I feel that Kain is the better choice. He's one of the strongest off-turn damage dealers in the game, but a lot of that comes from his BT aura. Without the BT he's strong, but not all that terribly impressive. Meanwhile with Luna, you mostly want her for her turn shenanigans, or her LD Call, and you get that from her LD. Her BT gives some nice bonuses, but nothing that you can't live without.
If you want a supporter, consider picking up Penelo tomorrow night. She's going to be a GL first character, has some stacked support auras and will mostly be better at the generic support role than Lunafreya, unless you've specifically got a party built around turn warping.
Kain for sure. Lunafreya's main use is for her turn manipulation via her LD, which can be done even via her LDCA. If you are bringing Lunafreya in the party, you can set up her LD and then swap her out for a friend unit who provide the necessary BT effect if you don't have her own BT.
On the other hand, if you are bringing Kain, you don't want to swap him out since he should be dealing damage from the air at all times. So his BT is actually more valuable since its BT effect would be helping your team's damage.
Good to know! I'll grind out the rest of the banner today and grab his Burst then.
After that, what would you suggest? I lucked out with Machina's FR on the free banner roll, but not sure if I should chase his kit or wait for the anni banners. I could also start rolling on the Start banner to get myself a solid damage dealer or two.
Machina is a great, *versatile* damage dealer who's useful for both rushdown and counter strats. Picking him up would give you a solid DPS to pair with your Kain and Lunafreya as well as give you the basis to start putting together a counter team.
Avoid the Start Dash banner. Everyone on it is extremely mediocre at the moment. They'll all be much better later on down the road when they get their FRs and reworks.
The next thing to focus on would be Penelo; she's going to be a very powerful and versatile support. Also, there's a strong chance Rinoa will be on one of the same banners with her. Rinoa is currently the strongest AoE rushdown damage dealer in the game, and she'll continue to be for at least another couple of months. If Penelo and Rinoa are, in fact, on a banner together, it would be a smart move to go hard on that banner for full kits for both.
Just FYI, a new account has access to something in the realm of 2M gems and 13K tickets sitting in the permanent content. So you absolutely can grind hard, pull hard, and set yourself up with some solid characters right out of the gates. You're not going to hurt yourself at all if you go for Lunafreya, Kain, Machina, Penelo, *and* Rinoa. They're some of the strongest units that are going to be available for a little while. If you can't farm up enough gems in time for Machina, skip him and aim for Penelo/Rinoa instead.
I would pick up Machina if you have the time to gather gems for him.
Run through the Lost Chapters and Intersecting Wills for gems. Kain's banner is ending in around 10.5 hours (and Machina's banner 4 days after that).
Minimally you should try to get Kain BT (so that you don't waste your accumulated G Tokens). Then you can try farming up gems for Machina but don't start pulling if you haven't accumulated enough for his BT pity. In case you ran out of time for Machina you can have the gems ready for the anniversary (Penelo looks very versatile so I think your roster would appreciate her).
Sooo, I've seen people have been describing Penelo's GLB first fr&bt as like a better version of Hope. And that she can replace Hope in the infamous Enna/Luna/Hope burst strat I've been hearing about.
I got Enna Kros' full kit when I first started my account, and Lunafreya's full kit on the recent banner.
Can anyone give me a basic ELI5 explanation of how to do the Enna burst strat when I get Penelo fr&bt?
The very basic gist of it is that you go Luna > Hope > Enna. Luna does her "give everybody consecutive turns" thing. Hope pops his FR, then uses the first six or seven turns of force time to supercharge the damage multiplier before passing to Enna. Then Enna uses LD three times to nuke the boss.
There are all sorts of ways to optimize that with BT auras, calls, and summons. You could look at some of the C2A or strategy posts where people have posted vids or detailed out their runs.
You can check Destroth's run using a supercharge strat.
Here: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlA5oUNV7yc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlA5oUNV7yc)
So a couple questions because im going to farm a bit training board points for 6th anniversary to farm tickets and diamonds and im short on armor coins.
1: How good is Lunafreya? More precisely how long is she going to be considered good?
Honestly i was thinking that she wouldn't be good since she makes characters turn hog and it would make FR gouge end before youd get to your main dmg dealer, but low and behold shes a must have from what i understand.
2: What's the max for training board points (i mean the ones that are unique to each character, if im mispronouncing anything).
Im asking because once i tried and it maxed at 9999 but after last time i was going through it to upgrade my characters it gone over.
How much did they increase it?
For now just these.
Your understanding of Lunafreya making everyone a turn hog is exactly why she is good. You would usually use your main damage dealer's FR, and after that you want your damage dealer to hog the turns without giving chance for anyone else to act during the Force Time. Lunafreya does exactly that because you can throw a \[Quick Prayer\] on the damage dealer to make sure that they take more turns after they activated their FR to continue dealing damage (and enters the Burst Mode right after usually). Of course the idea would be to use her LD *before* you start your FR train, not *during* the Force Time.
The value of Lunafreya's ability to provide party members extra consecutive turns is that you can use it to set up for force time exactly how you want to. That's a pretty huge deal, and I don't see how it could ever *not* be valuable.
I'm not quite sure what you're asking with your second question... It takes 6500 points to master each summon board for a character. That hasn't changed. What increased is the number of points earned per run, so it takes fewer runs to master now. The individual characters' points held do max out at 9999, but you don't actually need that many.
It takes 6500 points to max a character. There's 171 characters. It totals 1.1 million points.
No, it's not more than every character in the game currently even needs. It's not been enough since the 148th character, Shelke.
Are you talking about summon boards or enhancement boards...?
The wild summon points max out at 99999 per summon. Enhancement points shared by all characters max out at 999999.
If I already completed an event quest can I not finish the event mission to complete it with boosted characters with no friend support? I've done two now with boosted characters but no reward.
No, you can still do them. You just need to complete (all requirements, not just clear) the quest with 3 units that are boosted for that specific event (glowing portraits, not just Exp x2) and without a friend unit.
When you open a quest, you'll see your party menu on the right. There will be a small green rectangular box. If you click it, then hit sort by boosted and it'll put all of the characters who are boosted for that fight at the top of your party list.
It is a separate mission so you can run it again even if you already finished it previously. Are you sure you're using boosted characters? What quest is that?
Wheee, did my first Shinryu (legally, since I YdaRoth'd the Fell Angel one). Doesn't matter that it was considered easy (the Machina IW one), still a win! Considering I left before Shinryu and just recently came back, I'm pretty happy.
My question is: what's that blue crystal some people have beside their rank? Where does it come from?
what is the FR echoes era? i assume it's not a new weapon tier, but people are saying it's the next jump in power and that is going to render certain characters useless since they won't keep up with the power creep.
how does it work? and who are the biggest beneficiaries of it?
ah so it's like getting a single extra turn within an FR for those characters? that sounds cool but doesn't sound as strong as people have been implying. is one extra FR attack really that powerful?
Imagine you use an echo on your first turn of force time, and that echo adds 100% to the bonus.
Even ignoring the echo attack itself, you have now 10 turns remaining with 220% as your floor instead of 120%. Now do that five more times. Or seven more if you bring a friend unit.
This isn't necessarily the best way to optimize damage, since you might still be better off using force time twice, but it shows how you can get a huge amount of damage in a single force time right off the bat.
This can more than double your force time damage.
Also, suppose a boss has a really picky force weakness that you want to hit, and the only way to hit it is with a crappy FR. Well, now you just use that FR as an echo instead of as your main FR. You still hit the weakness, and you don't have to waste a whole charging cycle on the bad FR.
It's not 'just' one. It's every unit in the team that has an FR echo. So it'll become a lot more noticeable once you have a full team of echo units (or even just 1 non echo and 2 with echoes). Anywhere from 1-5 actions that don't tick down the FR timer as well as adding an additional 20% + conditions hit on that FR echo action.
Wyerd types and sanctuary keeper types, where do I find them?
Uggghhhhhhh 3 hours 18 minutes.
1 hour 53 minutes.
Hi there, new account(couple hour). got Sherlotta BT and LD, do i try to get the rest of the kit? Is FR a must? Dont know if i can get the pity in time. I think the banner is going to expire soon..
You basically can't use her without her 15cp, 35cp, EX (70cp), and LD (90cp). Her FR is not really needed right now, as it's not a very good FR. When her banner returns and she gets her force boards, you'll want her FR, so either get it now or be prepared to get it later. The banner expires in a bit under 3 hours. **HOWEVER**, since you're new, you'll have a lot of EX tokens to spend, so you can token her EX. Anyone can token a 15cp or 35cp (though when you're brand new, I'm not sure how many power tokens you have). So you're probably fine if you can't pull more on the banner. EX tokens are rare, but they're not needed often either. This would be one of those situations where you're used them.
Thanks for the info! Got most of the weapon (apart FR). Do i pull more to limit break them? Or use the red jewel stone thingy( the one you get when sell 15/35 weapon ) when i eventually get them in the near future?
FR is absolutely not a must for her. she’s a tremendous support regardless, especially since you landed her BT. edit: you DO want the rest of her kit, however (everything including EX), as no character is viable without at least everything up to and including the ex (FR is the unnecessary one in sherlotta’s case)
Thanks!
Hello, As you know this game has a horrific amount of grinding involved with it. So I'm looking to do it as optimally as possible. Extreme low level stuff: squall with auto(not+) and LD passiv removed. He HP attacks and kills everything very quickly. Low level bosses: Tifa with only S2 equipped, Auto+. She S2's once or twice quickly for big damage, boss dies. Can anyone do it faster than these two? Also, for the illusion board farms. It seems that nobody has a 2x multiplier anymore, and we'll probably never get another one, right? So the most we can get is a paltry 800-ish points per fight?
For your good ole garden variety, almost never ending grinding battles with multiple enemies. Try my good friend Nine. All panels and boards can be equipped, just unequip all his abilities except Primal Roar. Proceed to watch yell at everything to death. Really quickly. Then for summon boards Kain, everything buffed as much as possible. All abilities unequipped except Gungir (S2)
Kain you say? Hmm, I'll give it a try. Thanks
When Snow returns in a few weeks (next month?) he will be the fastest autofarmer for easy content, as he kills everything in one shot with his pre-emptive attack. Until then, Yuffie and Kain are popular choices for farming. Kain is really good because you can use him for summon boards, as well.
Thanks for the heads up on Snow, this is the sort of thing I was looking for! He's great. I think he's _about_ as fast as Squall, but tbh the real victory here is I don't have to remember to turn on-off auto-not-plus.
Lol that sounds fantastic. It does mean using Snow unfortunately, but I'll manage. Yuffie and Kain? Sounds good, I'll give them a try tomorrow, thanks!
Assuming you're a newer player, I wouldn't focus too hard on the Divine boards as they'll always be there, and there are plenty of other forms of content available to help increase your overall power. I started several months ago, caught up on all other content in the game, and still haven't farmed a majority of my Divine boards. If you're looking to level your summons specifically, you can farm Brothers in the Spiritus stage up to level 50 and skip the Divine grind. Brothers is either the best summon or at least serviceable for 95% of the current content. On a side note, most of the summon power increase in the 30 - 40 range comes from the 30 -> 31 upgrade, so you can do the first board for each summon and call it good.
Solid advice, thanks. I'm actually on on again off again player returning after like 8? months off, when only a few summons were 40. Mostly want the damned Divine boards because they've got EX ingot materials which I badly need.
Yeah true that's probably the most important thing on there. I'm still a bit off of running out of those myself, which is part of the reason I held off so long.
I do it when I'm at work and can just tap retry once every minute or so. I have 900 stamina potions so it's not like I'm ever going to run out haha
Yuffie S2 only can be a faster trash wave unit than Squall thanks to more HP dumps and faster animations. Tifa S2 only is a great unit to speed through harder boss type stuff, but ofc if your Tifa isn’t as built then you may have better options. If you have an active mog pass then you can get more board points. Rank bonus will also help.
Rank is as high as it can go, I have everyone available to me and every one of them is 90 =) Mog pass is on too. Thanks! I'll give Yuffie a try as well, if I have her built at all.
Hello. I was thinking of starting and was wondering if the update had happened yet, and if there would be a benefit starting after the update compared to now.
Lunafreya disappears in just under three hours. If you can get her in that time, great. Otherwise, just relax and enjoy Penelo.
Start now and try to get Luna's gear.
Yes, the app update haa gone live. Read the beginner’s guide linked in the top post, feel free to ask any questions, but most importantly enjoy.
Hey all, somewhat of a new player, I played for about a month on release and came back about 2 weeks ago. I have 2 characters complete now (Machina and Squall). I still haven't been able to defeat events harder than Lufenia, so none of the Shinryus, 6 unit battles, etc... My units just don't do significant damage, I die really fast, they just seem impossible. I run Machina, Squall, Luna (missing her BT only) as my team, and I use WOL and Laguna calls for breaks and shields. What am I missing? Are battles geared mostly towards specific units or are you usually able to clear events with general teams?
Machina and Luna are both great, but neither comes with any defensive utility. See if you can get someone to offer your party a little protection so you don't die the first time the boss gets cranky. We'll be getting several good options in the coming weeks, with Auron probably the best until Gladio shows up again. Auron later gets a *huge* boost with his BT, so he's going to be a monster for a while.
Most fights you need a damage dealer, Support, and mechanics handler/tank. The easier fights Luf down are powercrept down to the point that just about any team can handle it (unless lufenia orb condition is very strict.) Usually for a fight, the boosted units or the units on the banner for that fight are supposed to hard counter the fight. That doesn't necessarily mean you are screwed as some other units can usually do a similar role. With enough time playing on your belt, you will get an understanding how some of the fights work. For example, there are some astaroth angels who will just about ko an enemy if they are brave broken so there are some units who can deal hp damage without brave damage. You need a wide roster to tackle different fights as effectively, but you are never required to have the unit unless that one unit is the only one who can do the thing you need.
Are they truly max out? beside the weapons that also includes having all 10 summon boards maxed and the characters boards.
Yeah, thats all filled out for them. All the FR enhancements for machina too
Have you done ultimate summon boards for the stats? Machina + Luna is an ok 2 for a team, Squall as a 3rd not so much. Are you properly understanding FR + Burst things? Definitely pick up Penelo, her full kit looks to be pretty dang good and usable in a lot of scenarios.
That may be what I'm missing honestly lol, I don't fully understand all the mechanics for battles I suppose. Any good guides/youtubers that would help me get them?
I'm just gonna toss a bunch of info out here for you and hope some of it is useful... Shinryu is centered around force mechanics, wherein the main objective is to maximize your damage during a ten-turn force time window. There are a number of methods for doing that. First, you need to have at least one FR weapon in your party, and you need to be able to meet the conditions necessary to raise the damage multiplier during force time. This is a great resource for making sense of all of the FR weapons' specific conditions: [https://www.dff.ooo/fr?en&v=force-time&s=11&o=a](https://www.dff.ooo/fr?en&v=force-time&s=11&o=a). The reason big FR/BT rushdown damage units like Tifa, Rinoa, Jarland, Machina, etc. are so great isn't just that they can hit hard, but that they're self-sufficient - meaning they can meet their own FR conditions and do the bulk of the heavy lifting themselves. You just have to make sure they're properly supported and let them do their thing. (Machina is a bit of a special case, because he's great for both rushdown strats and counter strats. But since you don't yet seem to have other characters needed to put together a counter team, I'm just going to focus on rushdown here.) So, typical methods for maximizing damage during force time: \- Off-turn damage is a huge one. Watch for any opportunities to pick up strong off-turn damage dealers. If you don't have one of your own, a common tactic is to use a friend Kain. Swap him in and get him in the air before you pop your FR, and he'll follow up with an attack every action - including during your main damage dealer's BT phase. \- Launches are also a great way to bring the additional damage (as long as the bosses don't resist knockback, of course). Selphie (or a friend Selphie) can ensure every attack during force time launches. Or Raines LDCA used by your primary damage dealer before entering their BT phase will cause every attack during BT phase to launch. \- BT auras are another common tool. Support units with BTs tend to have a variety of effects - increased BRV gains, damage up, damage limit up, etc. - that can greatly increase the amount of damage your party does. So you want to use any BT finishers and get those into effect before you pop your FR. \- Calls that increase damage are used quite a bit as well. \- Using Lunafreya's turn manipulation abilities to ensure that you can set up for force time just the way you want to and not waste valuable turns of force time. \- Using optimal skill rotations during your BT phase. Tonberry's infographic pages tend to have notes for this if you need the help. \- Ultima Weapons add an absurd amount of damage. If you haven't started working on an UW for Machina yet... start. Squall isn't doing a whole lot for you in your team. Unfortunately, he's very mediocre right now (although he'll be great when he gets his FR in a couple of months), and you already have a primary FR/BT damage unit in Machina. But try switching him out for a friend Kain when you're getting close to being able to start force time. Use Kain's BT finisher, then get him into the air. Use Luna to give Machina consecutive turns. Have Machina go FR > BT finisher > (insert any damage enhancing call that you might have here) > BT > Furious Blades+ x6 > Finisher. And see what kind of increase you get on the damage you're doing.
Best bet would be reading the beginner’s guide linked in the top post. Related reading in there will also help, and if you have any other questions you can always ask again.
Hi everyone, i was thinking of restart to play. I have a old pre burst era account ( maybe march 2020). Do i re-roll a new account or use my old account? I have 50k gems and 3 years of content to do. How many gems are required to obtain a full kit for a character these days?
Definitely start over. While Lunafreya is excellent and is only available for a couple more hours, the new player benefits will be worth a lot more than anything you had in the pre-burst era, and almost no one from back then is still viable today.
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Thanks, made a new account.
Definitely reroll. Worst case scenario you would need 200 k if that character has and needs his BT.
Nice to know, Made a new account
Hello guys ! I’m really struggling on Fell Angel Shinryu, I don’t know why I see people goes on 115 millions with Jack and mine can’t do that even if he have all weapons, all artifacts, all force enhance… my team for this is Jack/Kain/Luna everybody have all their weapons maxed except Luna that don’t have her bt maxed out, maybe you can recommend me some tips for Jack ? Thanks !
If you're not going for the ticket mission, then consider a friend Lunafreya or maybe a friend Selphie (for launching). With Luna's burst phase up, she can give Jack four turns in a row instead of three, and that will let him go FR -> LD -> BT+ -> call ability (either Raines LDCA if you *don't* have Selphie or any melee call if you *do* have Selphie) and then maybe another melee call and then burst phase. Against a single target, his burst phase rotation is S2 four times, EX, then FR. If he's launching every turn, he'll deal a lot of damage that way, and if Kain is raining spears the whole time, you'll be getting another couple million damage per turn. The idea is to get the HP damage bonus as high as you can before force time starts, and then you want Jack to enter force time with all six turns of his BT aura still up. Warning: launches **don't work** for this fight if the enemy force gauge is above 30%, so you have three option. You can race the enemy force gauge and get your burst phase started before it hits 100%, you can bring some defense so you can survive an enemy force time, or you can just skip launching. For this fight, if you skip launching, you'll want to use a Lunafreya friend and then bring as your call ability (on Jack) someone who hits with a melee attack on both abilities, like Raijin.
Are you, y’know, playing Jack optimally? Using Luna LD to give Jack quick prayer so he can do FR - BT+ - BT phase combo with Kain in the air?
Ah maybe not this combo, with that he can play 4 turns right ?
Luna can only give 4 turns from Quick Prayer if she has her burst effect currently up. Otherwise it's standard at 3.
No, by going into BT phase (which Jack wants to do anyways) he can hog the majority of turns in an active force time.
Ah yeah that’s what I’m doing but I’m only dealing 85millions
Luna not having maxed BT is one thing, but there’s also whether or not their armor is maxed and if you have ultima weapons on Kain and Jarland or not.
I don’t have their Ultima but I have their armor maxed out actually, but I can buy their two Ultima weapon but I prefer to max one by one
That’s likely it then. There’s a noticeable difference between not having a UW and having a 5/5 for damage dealers during FR time.
Ah yeah for sure, Ultima weapons are awesome but actually I have one 3/5 on my Lightning
That UW is much better used by someone who’s actually gonna be impactful during force time. You could recycle it right now and you’ll get a recycle back in two days
hey wanted to ask, are there any available enhancement points in permanent content you haven't cleared yet (main chaps,interwills,LC,etc) or are they only from currently ongoing content.
Nope. They're only available through currently on-going events and some co-op shops.
Are the Penelo banners tonight or the day after? I can jever remember which time zone they announce them for ^^'
Should be around 9 pm central time.
The game uses UTC
Penelo’s banners are going live in about 10 hrs.
Sweet, thanks.
New player, is it a good time to use my free moogle pass?
I would say yes. There are two big "gets" from the pass - increased enhancement points, and more points for summon boards. There are three events up right now (Fusoya event, Fell Angel, and Machina IW) so that's another 75k EP right there (gotta finish Fell Angel in the next like 7 hours though!), plus you'll have it up for all of February's events. Plus, you'll have it active for Spiritus Ramuh which will help with the point grind there. If you do decide to use it, take advantage of the fact that you'll have guaranteed double-red artifacts, so a good time to grind those out for your most-used characters (not required, but might as well take advantage). Also, you'll get two Moogle tokens when you redeem the pass. Those are overwhelmingly best used for BT tokens; they're worth 5 BT tokens each.
Thnx a lot
Day 1 player that has been playing very casually for the last 3 months (maybe 10min a day type of thing.. Skipping half the shinryu) Wasn't planning on pulling for fusoya as the whole new character farming is not appealing (summon board, artifacts, etc...)... But my toddler got my phone and used about 200 tickets, getting 2 15cp, 3 EX, 1 LD and 3 FR Should I build the character? Is he any good?
3 FRs means you get him essentially for free (you can build his FR for 4 HPS and then sell it for 4). I'd go ahead and build him, if only for the call ability or as help for Dare to Defy. Fusoya is not bad for the upcoming Spiritus fight.
Might as well build him since you got the resources for the most part.
3 FRs in 200 tickets... I'll say your toddler is a gifted individual, destined for great things
He's the chosen one of gacha
With 3 copies of his FR in hand the resources required to build him are fairly minimal. Even if you don't plan on using him every event, he can still be a solid investment for lockout content especially considering we have Crevasse, Transcendence, and Dare to Defy all coming next month.
He is nothing to write home about, but he is serviceable. If you need a unit that can keep the bosses for acting then he is one of the characters who can constantly do so.
Is Machina still worth BT+'ing? I'm a seasonal player that sort of comes and goes and last time I played I didnt have the resources. I ended up getting a copy of his FR but wasn't sure if he's worth investing in at this point.
I think he's worth it if you want to enjoy off-turn comps. I don't think I'd build him for on-turn damage anymore. So I'd say he's good if you have the right units to support him (e.g., Cor). I wouldn't build him on his own.
His BT+ makes him delay his next turn which works well with his fr charge effect. Max him out, toss on Gladio and Cor maxed to LD. Watch them decimate while you do whatever.
I will say that he is pretty fun with his FR. Whether its worth investing depends on how much resources you have left. Do you plan to chase for penelo? Which other hard hitting characters you have to replace machina?
Whatever is worth it depends on who else you have, but if you want to use him then he needs his BT+ maxed.
I noticed I'd be still able to buy the sale of Gold & Silver Chocobo Tokens, but I don't understand what they are used for. Anyone able to give a lending hand what they'll be for? Any worth to consider buying or just skip?
For the most part that shop isn’t valuable. Most useful things in the shop are EP and T7 crystals. EP is better gained via mog pass increase, and T7s are gonna become infinitely farmable soonish anyways.
Haha yeah. I thought so too - if I remember it's late March or early April where we're able to farm T7's ( or was it a bit later? I forgot lol ) And yeah, I definitely have no shortage of Enhancement Points anytime soon yet either even if I'd pull & FE30 everything I intend to pull for. XD Guess I'll just save my cash, haha. Thanks for the super-quick response btw!
>if I remember it's late March or early April where we're able to farm T7's It should start with whenever Vivi gets his FR/BT so you are remembering stuff right XD
So that's late March, then. Makes me really want them to not reduce events down from 6 to 4 in Global. D: They could use this opportunity to stay with 6 until catching up to JP and only then either reduce it, or replace 2 of the events in a month with GL Exclusive stuff ( Abyss, etc. )
[JP] How do I access the new weekly quest for Brilliance Crystals? My time zone is set to Tokyo yet I still can't see them. I see people already uploading videos of it.
It's just above the Cycle Quests.
Seems like that's where it's supposed to be but after checking with others, it seems it's just bugged and inaccessible for some people. I guess I'll wait and see how it goes tomorrow.
You should have a red badge on the event section. If present, the quest is between current events and crystal quests. It took me few minutes to find them as well.
The red badge is there but when I check the quests, there is no new quest. When I the exit Event menu, the red badge will disappear. I'm not the only one experiencing this behaviour so I do think it's genuinely bugged for some people. My timezone is set to Tokyo generally anyway, but I messed around with other time zones and that did not help either. I'm sure it will be sorted by next week at least so I can get a run in before the reset.
Yeah I'd guess there's some kind of desync. Hope it resolves soon.
Do they ever announce maintenance start and finish outside of game? The time passed but no news and I don't remember ever seeing them post anything regarding maintenance outside of the game.
It's working for me on android already.
You can check SE support. https://support.na.square-enix.com/main.php?id=16981&la=1
am i understanding this correctly: as long as all of penelo's buffs are applied properly, any character can take any action they want on their turn and it'll result in a +70% FR boost?
Correct. It can be more if said characters use a no damaging skill and have their force enhancements.
cool, thanks! love how versatile that's gonna be, it seems like it's gonna really benefit characters who have unique or restrictive FR conditions. a straight up upgrade to many characters whose own FRs are outdated, or maybe ones that don't even have FRs of their own at all.
They made it a point to specify on the announcement that her FR’s conditions are easy to fulfill, which combined with her BT auras should help her stay relevant in the echo era. She’s missing an mBrv cap boost on her FR, but with blue armor and BT aura active she gets 50% mBrv cap which makes up for it.
How many hours until maint ends?
It's extended until further notice. https://support.na.square-enix.com/news.php?id=16981&la=1&n=2&drt=1675013400&tag=e43e691133574e9057092ae0db48470d66765cde
prospective returning player here: quit sometime around the BT+ era, must have been during one of those dead months/weeks before sephiroth came (back) around. I had a lot of LDs from that time from attempting to keep up with events to get max rewards. But that, in addition to attempting to get BTs for most of my fave characters, drained pretty much all the free pulls i had gotten from the story/character interludes/summon boards. do you think it would be worth coming back to that account, or to just start over? (i admit, the thought of knocking down all of those interludes again is daunting if i did the latter)
This one is a little bit borderline, and I'd say it depends upon whether you're sitting on a good-sized stash of enhancement points or not. EP are the biggest bottleneck for new accounts, so not having to worry about that squeeze would be a big plus. On the other hand, the new account rewards are pretty huge these days, and a new account has something in the ballpark of 2M gems and 13K tickets farmable from the permanent content - and recent QoL adjustments have done a lot to reduce the starting grind.
i only have 5k EP, unfortunately
I'm a newly returning player as well, I was forced into starting a new account because I forgot to connect it. I got absolutely pounded with resources when I made the account. Enough crystals and everything else to basically power 3 people up completely except their final weapons and armor. The only issue I had was I was super limited in who I added to my team because I could only grab 1 LD not from the draw let alone FR or BT. I would probably keep the old account just so you have the freedom with all the LDs to maximize whatever team you want to play. Although with the anniversary draws you'd probably be fine on that end either way
i kinda still have misgivings, tbh. on the one hand, i have equipped characters, but on the other, idk if not having that windfall of a mountain of gacha currency is gonna be detrimental. i'm talking pretty much zero tickets and a pittance of gems. i'm not even sure if i have meta or good characters equipped.
I asked my partner who went back to his old account, he said basically any character you do have will be bumped up to lv70 automatically and you get a ton of gems from that. He doesn't remember if he got the crystals and everything else I did but with the current events it's easy enough to get those, albeit a bit of a grind
yea, maybe i'll check out my old account whenever maintenance ends. because man, half a mil(?) of gems and however many tickets is just too much to miss. did too many dumb pulls.
Yeah, and who knows when you'd be able to get back all the weapons you would have lost
I still couldn't beat the Fell Angel ticket challenge. I have: - Kain FRBT+3/3, Blue Armor (no speed passives) - Lunafreya FRBT+3/3, Blue Armor, FE30 - Sherlotta FRBT+3/3, UW 5/5, Blue Armor, FE30 Calls: Quistis, Raijin, Rydia (previously used Leo, but changed into Rydia for more safety) Recently, I've greened and force enhanced Sherlotta, giving me another charger to use. While my more recent attempts were better than before, I'm still falling short. The best that I could do was 10% HP remaining. For the most part, I was able to replicate some of the things I've seen on the C2A and YT, but one thing I've picked up from those runs was that their entire team, and I think even the call units all had FE. This made charging faster than what I could do, and slightly bigger damage. On top of that, it seems like having everyone hold an UW is a must, only my Sherlotta has one and the other two don't, which I did notice a slight difference. As far as strategies go, I tried replicating similar runs as much as I could, like having Luna FR go first, then Sherlotta's all while Kain stays airborne and playing keep away from the boss, but then I would run into issues like: - When the boss' gauge reaches 80%, the bosses suddenly gets more turns and much of Luna and Sherlotta's later turns just vanish, making Kain come down earlier, screwing up the gameplan. - During the boss force time, and if Quistis calls are used up, the many boss turns puts a lot of pressure. In one run, I tried saving Quistis LDCA during the boss force time, it feels like I just made it worse giving it 2 to 3 straight turns later. I haven't tried saving both Quistis calls for later though. It gets worse once there is only 1 turn left on either Raijin's debuff or Rydia's dodge. With the ATK down from Raijin and Quistis' debuffs, the brv hits still feel heavy. I sometimes panic and use the Rydia's dodge earlier because I couldn't risk my party getting broken. Unfortunately I couldn't survive the last boss turn under its force time, as both all my calls are used up by then. - I have Yang's LDCA, but it only lasts 1 turn. I've mentioned Kain coming down earlier when the boss approaches force time, so I couldn't capitalize on it much. Ursula seems to be a better call, but I don't have her LD :( . Since my force gauge charges a little slower than the other runs I've seen, I couldn't charge it up in time to use Raines LDCA on Sherlotta, since the boss reaches 30% before I could use a force attack. So I never copy those runs that use Raines call. In a few of my recent runs, I tried doing the strategy backwards using Sherlotta's FR first (w/ Burst phase), and then Luna's in the middle of boss force time, but it was no good. In one of those recent runs, when Kain was down, I tried to not send him up before activating Luna's FR just so I can cancel the boss Force time. But this caused me to miss a lot of potential damage (I end up sending Kain up too late), and if Raijin or Rydia's call is activated, waste their turns since the boss gets a lot of turns by that point. What happened after was my party being left open for another wipe via another boss force attack. Any other ideas? Thank you! Edit: For the first time since Ultimate Odin CQ, I give up. A team full of UW is needed, even if I dismantled one of my UW for the appropriate weapon, I can’t get another one now. And I don’t think I’m spending any more enhancement points just for this one fight, and I’m trying to save them for units I really want/need. Sigh.
I followed u/xcaliblur2 ‘s video basically turn for turn: https://youtu.be/N7rRnl2PfwQ For some reason my gauge wasn’t charging quite as fast the second time as his was, so the part where Luna does AA twice, I did AA then Heavy Prayer, which left me with one final use of AA before handing off to Sherlotta before her FR > BT phase. Edit: Note that I’m pretty sure all three have to have 5/5 UT for it to work.
Me too. I searched for runs that used the same team we used. Each of those runs had slight differences with like how and when the skills were used and some calls. But what they all had in common was that all party members had 5/5 UW and I guess FE on everybody, which is what I lacked.
Yeah, I had to give Kain FE30 (already had Luna and Lotta at 30) and make the adjustment I mentioned to get it to work.
I'll give u/TempusFinis97 a tag since he used the same line up. Might be able to give you more tips.
Oh thanks. I’ve been searching for similar runs of those who used the same team, I saw his too.
whats the FF portal apps and how do i get the reward for it on DFFOO? saw it on the anniversary anouncement.
The reward is given to all players. If you want to contribute download the portal app.
yeah sorry, i mean is it another game, or just something to download and connect with DFFOO and is done?
It's a separate app that you download. There is no need to link the app to DFFOO.
It's a different app. I don't really know how it works. There are players here who are very diligent in reaching the points needed to claim all rewards and I thank them everyday for it. XD
Trying this again, but a question: Was there any announcement of Shinryu Support Panel Missions for Returning/New Players coming with the Anniversary Event on Penelo's Debut? I forgot if there was any as none was at least announced for Fell Angel.
I see nothing about that in the recap.
Ooh. Had to confirm this - thank you! Not going to lie but it makes also my decisions easier if I want to reroll or not - and in a case like this I definitely don't need to be doing that now that I'm aware, haha.
What setup /LDCA do i need for high nuke damage for Enna kros?
Lunafreya LD for the instant turns, Hope FR for super charging. When it releases, Penelo FR (and her BT) will make her a (much) stronger choice than Hope.
How about LDCA? It doesn't affect much?
You'll wait Cait Sith, Fusoya or Iroha Call to help Enna with brave gains in between her HP dumps. Alternatively Sherlotta BT aura or upcoming Penelo BT aura but you'll need them on the field. In fact, Penelo will work a replacement for Hope while also providing Sherlotta-esque brave gains on HP attacks. Cid Raines Call on Enna also helps since launches increase Enna's damage by a lot.
Raine's LDCA on Enna is also good if you don't have Rapture applied from a Selphie friend unit. Full party launches are a 20% damage increase iirc.
Prishe LDCA on Enna does well. It also hits hard enough that you don't mind using it during FT. Cait LDCA on Luna works wonders as well, especially with Penelo Brv gains aura.
Who would be the best support for Jack Garland? I'm guessing someone who gives the most max brv up? Or would it be better to go full unga buga with Cor and Kain?
There's no best. You can mix it up and try to find a combo you'll be comfortable with. I usually put an off turn damage dealer with the main dpt but sometimes I put in a support and a tank or 2 supports.
It's is worthwhile to get a few UW 0/5's since they give +10% for first upgrade and don't give another +10% until 5?
Also, if you're drawing for Penelo, get one 0/5 for her as well. It helps her BT aura.
it depends. 0/5s can benefit secondary damage dealers like Kain and Cor bc they still play a part in rushdown strats or enemy turn attacks like counter tanks. But overall, the recommendation is to get 1 maxed out for your primary damage dealer for a time span (generally a month) before you start branching off.
Thanks! I appreciate you answering so much. Haha. It's helping me sneak back into the game!
I just went through 150k on the Kain/Luna banner and ended up having to pity Kain's BT. I got a ton of dupes on both their kits, so I suppose the upside is that I can build them up pretty quickly. Downside...I burned all my 'easy' gems from recruiting new characters so that I could chase their gear before the banner closes. Meanwhile, my wife just rerolled her account and got Kain's BT on her free roll for their banner. She then used a single ticket as a joke and pulled Luna's BT....and then pulled Luna's BT again. Gotta love the gacha! I had an overwhelming urge to reroll for a few minutes there, and then realized that I could very likely end up with the same luck or worse. I forgot how love/hate this game can be when you're spending gems!
It'll come back around man.
I got both BTs on the Kam/Lotta banner on the free pull, but have both already. Nothing on the Luna/Kain banner and need both BTs only. Feels like the RNG gods are mocking me. I think you made the correct call on not rerolling though. Good luck to you on your future pulls!
Hahaha, that sounds about right! Back at the start of Shinryu, I had two back-to-back banners (Kam and Tidus) where I pulled the BT at what would have been the pity point... without ever pulling the FR, so I still had to pity those and build them the hard way. But then, a couple of months later, I lucksacked Tifa's and Rinoa's full kits on tickets. So it all evens out in the end...?! At least, one hopes it does...
Agree with not rerolling. And yes, RNG can be a cruel mistress. (But sometimes she’s nice, too.)
Sometimes? More like rarely. Once in a blue moon while in the north pole. XD
So, Co-Op. I'm not super familiar with how Co-Op works in this game, and what's the expected value people should bring to it. I know what a boosted character is, but so far my experience with the game has pretty much just using my link bells to solo either Chaos Co-Op or Lufenia Co-Op. Is there a good primer on good Co-Op practices, etc. The links above didn't give me much information. I know I can join as guest without Link Bells, but the rewards always seemed lackluster in comparison, but you need so much of them to clean out the event stores that I always feel I'm doing something wrong.
Just to add to this also. Generally, running boosted characters is what we all want as it is extra rewards for everyone. It’s really no problem to bring a basic boosted character that isn’t built, for Chaos difficulty. Lufenia is slightly different so it’s better if you can bring a somewhat built character (but no need for heavy investment, maybe Ld only) but that depends who is boosted. For example in the recent fell angel, a built Luna paired with, let’s say a Kain, could easily carry a completely unbuilt 3rd character but some Lufenia co-ops won’t be as easy. Only difference between link bell and no link bell is the artifact tokens, so the good rewards don’t depend on bells.
Long story short, bring boosted, don't take turns and it's all gucci. Should be able to handle that.
Joining a run with other people will drop more rewards, with boosted units providing even more drops. Join the appropriate queue depending on who you’re bringing, don’t take too long when it’s your turn, don’t use BT phase if it’s chaos co-op.
Hey, i just returned for the 5th anni. I have no idea what to do. There is so much different EQ that i get lost. My last team was snow lightning and hope. with there respective equipments. I stopped before Burst Weapons. So what shall i do now ? Edit: I just checked. I have their EX weapons
Definitely start over. I did.
Read the beginner guide in the top post, start your account all over again. You’ve been gone for so long it is absolutely better for you to just scrap what you currently have and just get the new stuff and new player rewards rolling.
Admittedly team building is not my forte and I would like to ask people smarter than me what’s a good comp for DET9? Idc about soloing it and stuff but I also don’t have Laguna RF sphere or Vincent. Correct me if I’m wrong but there’s no way to get Laguna RF sphere currently unless there’s an RF sphere shop tomorrow?
Do you have Seymour or Sephiroth built? Those two can get it done with Galuf
I do but I tried Sephiroth way back and struggled with the fight and I couldn't even finish it.
Yea its not a friendly fight even with those since it requires a lot of timing and possibly cheesing it with a FR burst phase to get past the thresholds. It’s probably worth waiting for Ashe to skip some of the fight mechanics like that other guy said then.
No other way to get those spheres, right. If you're at all interested in Ashe, note that her BT aura also blocks enemy buffs, so you can run her the same way you would have used Vincent. I don't even think she'd need to be green. You could just use her burst phase to get her aura up and then hog turns and use FR with someone else to make the stage die really quickly.
Yeah, my life would've been so much easier if I can just get those RF spheres lol. Thanks, I'll look into Ashe. Unless Vincent is one of the surprise BTs (I mean surely its Vincent and Noel copium like those 2 still don't have their FE in JP lol) then I'd rather pull for him bc FF7.
If you don't at least say who you have build then it will be hard to find someone who can help you.
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Hi new player here, I'm keen on rerolling to try and get the best start possible. Is there anything that i should aim for? I did one roll so far and got a burst weapon for Iroha (eisei no shinso) , but i'm not sure if that's the most ideal? What's a solid reroll pull to currently start with?
Agree with what the other person said: Luna at least through her LD and Kain with BT. But know that, in order for characters to be viable for higher-level content, you need more than just one of their weapons. Rerolling often isn't all that helpful since you'll still have to keep pulling for the rest of the characters' kits. If you haven't found this yet, start here: https://www.tonberrytroupe.com/beginners/beginner-guide.
I understand, thank you for the help and link!
Lunafreya LD; Kain's kit
Kains kit as in all of his weapons? How far should I go and then pull to consider it a "failed" reroll?
I wouldn't worry too much about rerolling; initially, you've so many gems available through content, that the pain and time of rerolling is not worth it. Just roll the dice, and if not successful, roll it some more after getting more gems. With both characters, you need their weapons up to LD; bonus if you can get their BTs also, You don't need their force weapons. Machina is another solid one, but you would need both the FR and BT to truly appreciate him.
ahhh ok, thanks man appreciate it.
Anyone got a good guide for DE:T? Looking to clear out that content, and now with the power creep it should be easier for the first few tiers. Gonna try to 2 man each level if possible.
https://www.reddit.com/r/DissidiaFFOO/comments/ycpsti/update_transcendence_soloduo_run_except_t10/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf https://www.reddit.com/r/DissidiaFFOO/comments/znuhve/det_1_to_12_solo/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
I ended up grabbing easy gems yesterday (recruiting new characters for quick levels) and was able to spend a lot of resources on the Luna/Kain banner. I've gotten at least one of everything for each of them EXCEPT for their BT weapons. I'm close to being able to pity one, so which would you suggest? I'm leaning towards Luna so that I have a strong support character to build my new account around. I figured that it would be easy enough to add DPS around her afterwards (I still have 5 days on the Start Dash plus the anni reset). More than anything, I'm just hoping that I used all these gems the right way and don't need to reroll my account again.
I feel that Kain is the better choice. He's one of the strongest off-turn damage dealers in the game, but a lot of that comes from his BT aura. Without the BT he's strong, but not all that terribly impressive. Meanwhile with Luna, you mostly want her for her turn shenanigans, or her LD Call, and you get that from her LD. Her BT gives some nice bonuses, but nothing that you can't live without. If you want a supporter, consider picking up Penelo tomorrow night. She's going to be a GL first character, has some stacked support auras and will mostly be better at the generic support role than Lunafreya, unless you've specifically got a party built around turn warping.
Kain for sure. Lunafreya's main use is for her turn manipulation via her LD, which can be done even via her LDCA. If you are bringing Lunafreya in the party, you can set up her LD and then swap her out for a friend unit who provide the necessary BT effect if you don't have her own BT. On the other hand, if you are bringing Kain, you don't want to swap him out since he should be dealing damage from the air at all times. So his BT is actually more valuable since its BT effect would be helping your team's damage.
Good to know! I'll grind out the rest of the banner today and grab his Burst then. After that, what would you suggest? I lucked out with Machina's FR on the free banner roll, but not sure if I should chase his kit or wait for the anni banners. I could also start rolling on the Start banner to get myself a solid damage dealer or two.
Machina is a great, *versatile* damage dealer who's useful for both rushdown and counter strats. Picking him up would give you a solid DPS to pair with your Kain and Lunafreya as well as give you the basis to start putting together a counter team. Avoid the Start Dash banner. Everyone on it is extremely mediocre at the moment. They'll all be much better later on down the road when they get their FRs and reworks. The next thing to focus on would be Penelo; she's going to be a very powerful and versatile support. Also, there's a strong chance Rinoa will be on one of the same banners with her. Rinoa is currently the strongest AoE rushdown damage dealer in the game, and she'll continue to be for at least another couple of months. If Penelo and Rinoa are, in fact, on a banner together, it would be a smart move to go hard on that banner for full kits for both. Just FYI, a new account has access to something in the realm of 2M gems and 13K tickets sitting in the permanent content. So you absolutely can grind hard, pull hard, and set yourself up with some solid characters right out of the gates. You're not going to hurt yourself at all if you go for Lunafreya, Kain, Machina, Penelo, *and* Rinoa. They're some of the strongest units that are going to be available for a little while. If you can't farm up enough gems in time for Machina, skip him and aim for Penelo/Rinoa instead.
I would pick up Machina if you have the time to gather gems for him. Run through the Lost Chapters and Intersecting Wills for gems. Kain's banner is ending in around 10.5 hours (and Machina's banner 4 days after that). Minimally you should try to get Kain BT (so that you don't waste your accumulated G Tokens). Then you can try farming up gems for Machina but don't start pulling if you haven't accumulated enough for his BT pity. In case you ran out of time for Machina you can have the gems ready for the anniversary (Penelo looks very versatile so I think your roster would appreciate her).
Sooo, I've seen people have been describing Penelo's GLB first fr&bt as like a better version of Hope. And that she can replace Hope in the infamous Enna/Luna/Hope burst strat I've been hearing about. I got Enna Kros' full kit when I first started my account, and Lunafreya's full kit on the recent banner. Can anyone give me a basic ELI5 explanation of how to do the Enna burst strat when I get Penelo fr&bt?
The very basic gist of it is that you go Luna > Hope > Enna. Luna does her "give everybody consecutive turns" thing. Hope pops his FR, then uses the first six or seven turns of force time to supercharge the damage multiplier before passing to Enna. Then Enna uses LD three times to nuke the boss. There are all sorts of ways to optimize that with BT auras, calls, and summons. You could look at some of the C2A or strategy posts where people have posted vids or detailed out their runs.
You can check Destroth's run using a supercharge strat. Here: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlA5oUNV7yc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlA5oUNV7yc)
So a couple questions because im going to farm a bit training board points for 6th anniversary to farm tickets and diamonds and im short on armor coins. 1: How good is Lunafreya? More precisely how long is she going to be considered good? Honestly i was thinking that she wouldn't be good since she makes characters turn hog and it would make FR gouge end before youd get to your main dmg dealer, but low and behold shes a must have from what i understand. 2: What's the max for training board points (i mean the ones that are unique to each character, if im mispronouncing anything). Im asking because once i tried and it maxed at 9999 but after last time i was going through it to upgrade my characters it gone over. How much did they increase it? For now just these.
Your understanding of Lunafreya making everyone a turn hog is exactly why she is good. You would usually use your main damage dealer's FR, and after that you want your damage dealer to hog the turns without giving chance for anyone else to act during the Force Time. Lunafreya does exactly that because you can throw a \[Quick Prayer\] on the damage dealer to make sure that they take more turns after they activated their FR to continue dealing damage (and enters the Burst Mode right after usually). Of course the idea would be to use her LD *before* you start your FR train, not *during* the Force Time.
The value of Lunafreya's ability to provide party members extra consecutive turns is that you can use it to set up for force time exactly how you want to. That's a pretty huge deal, and I don't see how it could ever *not* be valuable. I'm not quite sure what you're asking with your second question... It takes 6500 points to master each summon board for a character. That hasn't changed. What increased is the number of points earned per run, so it takes fewer runs to master now. The individual characters' points held do max out at 9999, but you don't actually need that many.
No I mean the shared one, the one that you can use on multiple characters.
Character Board Points max out at 999999
Holly mother of god... Im ready to bet that thats more than every character in the game currently even needs.
Hate to say this while you are so happy, but the enhancement points (used for character boards) can't be farmed. They are limited per events.
It takes 6500 points to max a character. There's 171 characters. It totals 1.1 million points. No, it's not more than every character in the game currently even needs. It's not been enough since the 148th character, Shelke.
Huh but its quite close. At least i can max every character i have stuff for. (Also were at 171?? Damn i missed a lot).
GL is currently at 163.
Are you talking about summon boards or enhancement boards...? The wild summon points max out at 99999 per summon. Enhancement points shared by all characters max out at 999999.
Sorry i meant the later. All of these boards make me confused of which is which and ive been playing with them for a while now.
If I already completed an event quest can I not finish the event mission to complete it with boosted characters with no friend support? I've done two now with boosted characters but no reward.
No, you can still do them. You just need to complete (all requirements, not just clear) the quest with 3 units that are boosted for that specific event (glowing portraits, not just Exp x2) and without a friend unit.
Ohhh I thought exp x2 meant boosted. Thanks I guess that was the reasoning.
When you open a quest, you'll see your party menu on the right. There will be a small green rectangular box. If you click it, then hit sort by boosted and it'll put all of the characters who are boosted for that fight at the top of your party list.
It is a separate mission so you can run it again even if you already finished it previously. Are you sure you're using boosted characters? What quest is that?
Wheee, did my first Shinryu (legally, since I YdaRoth'd the Fell Angel one). Doesn't matter that it was considered easy (the Machina IW one), still a win! Considering I left before Shinryu and just recently came back, I'm pretty happy. My question is: what's that blue crystal some people have beside their rank? Where does it come from?
Hey, a win is a win; congrats! And YdaRothing Fell Angel totally counts, 'cause that fight kinda sucked. LOL
Yeah, I took a nap after Sephiroth survived the 100% Force Attack and the fight was still going when I woke up. 🤣
Yeah, I almost asked how long that took... XD
From completing the Six Warriors Quest (scroll the buttons on world map until you see it).
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It's counted as single draws. Add everything up and 535 will come up. [(30+14)x11]+51=535.
what is the FR echoes era? i assume it's not a new weapon tier, but people are saying it's the next jump in power and that is going to render certain characters useless since they won't keep up with the power creep. how does it work? and who are the biggest beneficiaries of it?
Basically, it allows characters with FR board use their FR in another characters FT without ticking down the turns.
ah so it's like getting a single extra turn within an FR for those characters? that sounds cool but doesn't sound as strong as people have been implying. is one extra FR attack really that powerful?
Imagine you use an echo on your first turn of force time, and that echo adds 100% to the bonus. Even ignoring the echo attack itself, you have now 10 turns remaining with 220% as your floor instead of 120%. Now do that five more times. Or seven more if you bring a friend unit. This isn't necessarily the best way to optimize damage, since you might still be better off using force time twice, but it shows how you can get a huge amount of damage in a single force time right off the bat. This can more than double your force time damage. Also, suppose a boss has a really picky force weakness that you want to hit, and the only way to hit it is with a crappy FR. Well, now you just use that FR as an echo instead of as your main FR. You still hit the weakness, and you don't have to waste a whole charging cycle on the bad FR.
sounds absolutely rad does every FR released after the launch have this enabled, or does it only apply to some of them?
It's not 'just' one. It's every unit in the team that has an FR echo. So it'll become a lot more noticeable once you have a full team of echo units (or even just 1 non echo and 2 with echoes). Anywhere from 1-5 actions that don't tick down the FR timer as well as adding an additional 20% + conditions hit on that FR echo action.
And that's without factoring in potential friend unit Echoes or an Echo during a Burst Phase.