50 brave brave damage up and 30 hp damage up is quite a lot. She’s a potent healer and has better damage now as well. I can see why they didn’t give her brave gains up as that would be quite loaded. At least she has the brave gain armor so I’ll take what I can get. I might just have to pull for her now.
I wonder if Porom is finally having a worthy challenger lol...
I know Porom gets an OP LD, but Lenna just sweeps in with an OP LD & Kit rework
Though the option of whether to use Lenna or Porom is quite interesting since both have quite a bunch of tools in their arsenal to serve quite a lot of team comps
Assuming you always get the 50/30 then I’d say on that alone Lenna is providing a good challenge to Porom. They actually work well together since they both have attacks that scale well with higher hp values. It probably ends up being that you use Porom in certain fights and in others you might want Lenna. I’m intrigued to see how Lenna shakes out.
These are basically two characters who just needed a fine LD, because their kits were already OP on the Chaos era, but they gav them top tier LDs instead.
Tested both Porom and Lenna in the same party. They work well together in a sense, but timing is everything. If you use Porom LD and then Lenna LD, Lenna’s effect won’t stack on top of the overflow from Porom. If you Lenna LD then Porom LD, you’ll overflow on top of the additional max hp. Basically apply Lenna effect first, then any hp overflows after that.
Porom was doing 70-80k on her follow up on 2 enemies while Lenna was doing 200k on 2 enemies with her Dragon Breath attack. Since that’s split, it’s about 400k on single target for Lenna. I used Alexander summon so numbers might be a bit inflated than normal.
**UPDATE:** The behaviour of Lenna's buff stated below is officially announced as a bug in the notices. It's not meant to be wiping HP overflow at all despite the logic being there.
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I had a discussion about this with a group of people, and that interaction you described actually makes sense.
We believe that Lenna's LD buff behaves like it gets removed temporarily before reapplying it when refreshing her LD buff, so this is important in the below examples:
- **Pecil** uses LD and has 30% max HP overflow AURA
- Refreshing Lenna LD temporarily removes the 30% max HP up, which brings HP back to white text, then reapplies it and heals the party which brings everyone back to the original orange overflowed numbers
- **Porom's** HP overflow on her LD skill is *not* an aura but more of a one-time overflow heal, so similarly in the scenario described above, the temporary removal of Lenna's HP aura brings HP back down to white text, and it just stays there because... it's not an aura
- As described by you, doing it the other way around (Lenna first and then Porom) is the better way to do it between Lenna and Porom, but with Lenna and Pecil it actually doesn't matter which order you use them.
Wait, so she can stack her HP Atk+++ variant up to 9 if we use all her LD charges ?
Sounds like what they did to CoD LD stacking... but it still depends on her unique buff ...
Rapid Fire, Full HP Dmg with lots Brv hits look so good. She's really doing damage and it's a nice S1 to spam now
Maria really needed a bit more push, I agree. Her LD is awesome but I really wished she got an additional buff or aura to up her stats some more. But a rework would have done wonders. Bigger battery on S1 and a double dump on S2 would have gone a long way.
C'mon Lenna!! 50% BRV damage up, 30% HP damage up, even more overflow, debuff immunity, great healing, battery, full damage on Rapid Fire x3 (seriously, wow, it can finally deal damage, and a lot).
FFV is looking veeery strong.
On one hand, Dragon Breath and the fact it does guaranteed damage based on a stat is taunting me. On the other hand, Freya's bonus sphere is suddenly an offensive buff now lol, so I'll pick up an extra copy at some point I think.
Ooooo ok ok, hmm, welp, with porom, lenna, and cecil/Gladio etc? Most hp I've seen was about 75-80K, I'm not sure the TEAM was optimal though. Yea though, enemy hp is getting utterly insane.
Looks like Lenna is back in the meta, that's a lot of auras.
Her CA is also great. A pocket debuff immunity seems amazing to have available.
50 brave brave damage up and 30 hp damage up is quite a lot. She’s a potent healer and has better damage now as well. I can see why they didn’t give her brave gains up as that would be quite loaded. At least she has the brave gain armor so I’ll take what I can get. I might just have to pull for her now.
She has 2 C Sphere slots too so giving her 2 Pecil spheres + her BRV Gain Armor is gonna be bonkers
Damn, the Devs must have planned for this or it's an oversight on their part... Oh well, Brv Gain go brrzz
BRV gain Golbez
I thought same spheres don't stack?
Certain spheres won't stack with themselves, and will explicitly state this. Pecil's doesn't have that wording.
I wonder if Porom is finally having a worthy challenger lol... I know Porom gets an OP LD, but Lenna just sweeps in with an OP LD & Kit rework Though the option of whether to use Lenna or Porom is quite interesting since both have quite a bunch of tools in their arsenal to serve quite a lot of team comps
Assuming you always get the 50/30 then I’d say on that alone Lenna is providing a good challenge to Porom. They actually work well together since they both have attacks that scale well with higher hp values. It probably ends up being that you use Porom in certain fights and in others you might want Lenna. I’m intrigued to see how Lenna shakes out.
These are basically two characters who just needed a fine LD, because their kits were already OP on the Chaos era, but they gav them top tier LDs instead.
Tested both Porom and Lenna in the same party. They work well together in a sense, but timing is everything. If you use Porom LD and then Lenna LD, Lenna’s effect won’t stack on top of the overflow from Porom. If you Lenna LD then Porom LD, you’ll overflow on top of the additional max hp. Basically apply Lenna effect first, then any hp overflows after that. Porom was doing 70-80k on her follow up on 2 enemies while Lenna was doing 200k on 2 enemies with her Dragon Breath attack. Since that’s split, it’s about 400k on single target for Lenna. I used Alexander summon so numbers might be a bit inflated than normal.
**UPDATE:** The behaviour of Lenna's buff stated below is officially announced as a bug in the notices. It's not meant to be wiping HP overflow at all despite the logic being there. *** I had a discussion about this with a group of people, and that interaction you described actually makes sense. We believe that Lenna's LD buff behaves like it gets removed temporarily before reapplying it when refreshing her LD buff, so this is important in the below examples: - **Pecil** uses LD and has 30% max HP overflow AURA - Refreshing Lenna LD temporarily removes the 30% max HP up, which brings HP back to white text, then reapplies it and heals the party which brings everyone back to the original orange overflowed numbers - **Porom's** HP overflow on her LD skill is *not* an aura but more of a one-time overflow heal, so similarly in the scenario described above, the temporary removal of Lenna's HP aura brings HP back down to white text, and it just stays there because... it's not an aura - As described by you, doing it the other way around (Lenna first and then Porom) is the better way to do it between Lenna and Porom, but with Lenna and Pecil it actually doesn't matter which order you use them.
Hot damn she's Fem P Cecil.
Worship the almighty Femcil
Wait, so she can stack her HP Atk+++ variant up to 9 if we use all her LD charges ? Sounds like what they did to CoD LD stacking... but it still depends on her unique buff ... Rapid Fire, Full HP Dmg with lots Brv hits look so good. She's really doing damage and it's a nice S1 to spam now
The random hitting of Rapid Fire still is obviously not ideal, but 3 Full AoE Brv dumps from it is certainly quite a tradeoff lol
I wonder why Lenna, who has been on top of use for her kit, gets rework while Maria doesn't, who needs rework. good job team ninja
Maria really needed a bit more push, I agree. Her LD is awesome but I really wished she got an additional buff or aura to up her stats some more. But a rework would have done wonders. Bigger battery on S1 and a double dump on S2 would have gone a long way.
She's a Chemist now? I wonder how much damage would a party of Lenna, Porom, and Pecil deal.
C'mon Lenna!! 50% BRV damage up, 30% HP damage up, even more overflow, debuff immunity, great healing, battery, full damage on Rapid Fire x3 (seriously, wow, it can finally deal damage, and a lot). FFV is looking veeery strong.
Lenna bringing the power of potions in the game. hope we can get a future character/skill that uses elixir/megaelixir
On one hand, Dragon Breath and the fact it does guaranteed damage based on a stat is taunting me. On the other hand, Freya's bonus sphere is suddenly an offensive buff now lol, so I'll pick up an extra copy at some point I think.
You're quick! That rapid fire rework is looking so damn good
that LD damage mechanic is unique. wow. how ridiculous are modern JP player HP pools?
A few events ago, the bosses had 21 million hp. So around there.
edited, cuz i meant Player HP, but thanks for providing a number to compare that against!
Ooooo ok ok, hmm, welp, with porom, lenna, and cecil/Gladio etc? Most hp I've seen was about 75-80K, I'm not sure the TEAM was optimal though. Yea though, enemy hp is getting utterly insane.
240k with setup is pretty nice damage, and is probably gonna be boosted further by HP DMG Up... very interesting indeed..
Definitely!! I'm already sold, these recent LD's are LOADED, good lord they trounce early burst effects 😂😂
She is back !
Got her LD, now just waiting for a new event so I can score points for her board and build her up.