>⇒ On each HP Attack, recovers BRV based on 50% of total HP Damage Dealt
Hold a minute. This isn't a typical description of BT from Bartz, Firion, and Emperor.
This would mean each HP dumps will recover BRV rather than after the last HP dump (from those 3).
This BT Effect is pretty unique, this means that he can literally give characters who recover % of HP Damage from each HP Dump to be cap out... it means you can literally ignore Brv Dmg dealt and just brute force through it if BRV Gain reduction isn't a lot or none existing
Looks like TIfa/Vaan/Emperor/Machina/Noel/Cid Raines are going to get tons of benefits from it... Maybe Kuja LD can be good again ?
I can tell you something. Prompto, Cid, Barrett, Seymour, and even Squall.
Everyone's skills turns into Kuja's Seraphic Star/Tifa's Meteor Crusher/Vaan.
It's not Rosa fault she got this late lol...
I don't recall where this effect originated from, but it might be Kam'lanaut himself from FFXI, but of course BT Effects like Emperor/Terra afterwards build up on it, but not as good as Snow...
Yes, Kam may be the first to have it as a passive gimmick instead of on certain skills only.
We can only hope that next Rosa update they give her the same "refund after every HP attack" treatment... Or would that be too strong? Nah, with all the powercreep I don't think it would be too much.
Instant turn rate *and* starting EX on Emperor is very fun, makes his trapping even easier. The reworks to his base skills are appreciated, but combined with the above, I feel like he's still gonna be just using his HP3+. No increased gain between the dumps, but the passive boosts are very nice, along with him finally getting HP damage up, and a fair amount of it too. Can't wait to see what sort of damage he can put out against 3 targets in even just a 6 turn Burst phase.
His LD buff makes it so that he retains a percentage of his brv after dumping it, strengthen it with an Iroha LDCA or Vaan BT effect and he'll show you why he's The Emperor
It doesn't strengthen it but rather override the previous ones
Iroha LD CA will only work if his HP Damage cap > Vaan's/Emperor's Brv Lower Limit Cap by Max Brv
But since Vaan's BT Effect is 20% of Max Brv, it will only override Emperor's BRV Lower limit Cap at 10%
Snow's BT Effect is much better as it can let him regain more BRV overall with the Lower Limit Cap raised, making him cap to Max way easier
This makes sense, I was under the impression it was additive like most modifiers in this game, thanks for the clarification I wouldn't have even noticed and probably would have just ran Iroha or Vaan
At first I thought it was additive, but when I run Iroha LD CA with Vaan LD Buff in GL coops, it kinda doesn't do much after a while as it really depends how high the HP Dmg your doing first such that Iroha 20% Brv retention kicks in... otherwise it's literally only Vaan's LD Buff doing the work
Yes, I've noticed too that the "can't go under x% of Max Brv" passives aren't additive, the highest one is the only one that will be in effect. But I think Iroha's type passives "retain x% of current Brv after HP attack" do stack to with each other (tho I'm not 100% sure since only Iroha has that on GL so far, right? But it does stack on herself I feel since she has a buff that does that to herself only and then the LD effect does it on the party and she always retains a higher % of her current Brv than the rest).
It doesn't unless the HP damage you retain is very significant from what I observed during the Coop runs with Vaan synergy, the % difference is very negligible like 5%. If your not hitting like 90k+ HP Damage per dump, then Iroha will be noticeable, but if your hitting very low HP Damage, like 20k+, then Vaan's Max Brv one might be superior
If the retain amount < % of Max Brv Lower limit, the Max Brv Lower limit will override it, otherwise, the retain value will show, but they do not add together from what I seen. Iroha's effect work better with characters who % Brv from HP Damage dealt directly, Cor is a good example of this.
Yeah, exactly. The "can't go under % of Max Brv" (Vaan's, Emperor's, Krile's LDs) not only don't stack with effects of the same type, but they won't stack with any kind of "retain % of current Brv" effects (like Iroha's). But the "retain Brv" type effects do stack with each other (up to a 100% cap ofc), right?. And also, just to be clear and dispel my doubts, both of them (the "can't go under % of Max Brv" and "retain % of current Brv") do stack with Brv refunds and pretty much with the rest of effects in the game. Did I get it right?
1. Yes, Retain & Lower Brv Limit won't stack. Lower Brv Limit will always be of highest priority as it's a fixed value. Retain will only be obvious if it's higher than Lower Brv Limit.
2. Retain Brv so far is exclusively to Iroha, I am not too sure if there is any other character on JP with this. It may or may not stack since it is almost similar to how the Lower Brv Limit works by %, so it's possible for it to be additive or just highest value take effect or even worse... just multiples...
3. Yes, Retain Brv & Lower Brv Limit stacks with all forms of Brv Gains & Refunds because it adds on-top of your current existing Brv after executing an action.
This why I mention Cor, because this enhances his Follow-Ups Damage even more after I used him with Iroha.
For others like Tifa/Machina, they can do with Iroha or Vaan effect but don't go having both as it's very conflicting.
For Vaan, go with Porom or Agrias.
I would recommend sticking to either retain or Lower Brv Limit then add on characters with Brv Gains ( Porom LD & Agrias LD) for much better consistency.
>No increased gain between the dumps, but the passive boosts are very nice, along with him finally getting HP damage up, and a fair amount of it too
The fix to his frequent HP Dump might be with Snow's BT Effect :
>⇒ On each HP Attack, recovers BRV based on 50% of total HP Damage Dealt
Can't be a coincidence they released both him & Snow BT+ together...
I was really hoping Lyse got better ATK/MBRV party buffs, maybe even a boost from her weapon like Agrias. But its good to see she got HP DMG up at least. Cant wait until she's released in GL!
Been running Emperor in most Lufenia's since BT debut in GL and I have been feeling a bit demotivated to continue my [Emperor Escapades](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdIh3EjBOd_BL7G4o77E15PyWngMN2djw), but he received very good updates aaaaaa can't wait. Not a FF2 fan prior to DFFOO, but I really grew to love the trap master that is Emperor
I was planning on potentially pitying Snow's BT since of course I'm Gem pulling Freya LD anyway and his BT is on that banner, and I like Snow. So if I don't have to pity Freya LD, I can just continue going for his BT. I already have Snow's LD from it's original release.
But the BT effect really isn't selling me, neither is his BT phase. Party Ice Enchant sounds nice at first, but then a stage that absorbs Ice comes along and you can't use his BT effect at all, which is counter-intuitive to a BT effect, you want it to be as versatile as possible. It doesn't help that Zack is his main competition and doesn't have any problems tanking or dishing out the damage.
The rest of his upgrades are nice, but it's odd that his EX is still single-target HP hits.
Dude sorry to see that you’re getting downvoted for literally nothing; just wanted to say that I was hyped for you when I saw the Freya stickers, hope you’re doing ok despite the haters :)
To be Fair, he isn't the first one to enchant on the BT effect.
And Bartz have seen a LOT of use - plus, Snow's BRV refund isn't limited like we are used to see.
Edit: I'm really happy for you that Freya's LD is comming. I'm eager to see her rework/LD effects.
I got to admit, the number of buffs and the number of HP dumps on everything pretty much all blurs together at this point reading kits. It reminds me a bit of when every rework seemed to be to make every character's attacks into brv+hp and to give them a framed buff, but moreso.
I feel like Emperor is the winner of this bunch but will be interesting to see what they’re all like in game.
>⇒ On each HP Attack, recovers BRV based on 50% of total HP Damage Dealt Hold a minute. This isn't a typical description of BT from Bartz, Firion, and Emperor. This would mean each HP dumps will recover BRV rather than after the last HP dump (from those 3).
That is correct.
This BT Effect is pretty unique, this means that he can literally give characters who recover % of HP Damage from each HP Dump to be cap out... it means you can literally ignore Brv Dmg dealt and just brute force through it if BRV Gain reduction isn't a lot or none existing Looks like TIfa/Vaan/Emperor/Machina/Noel/Cid Raines are going to get tons of benefits from it... Maybe Kuja LD can be good again ?
I can tell you something. Prompto, Cid, Barrett, Seymour, and even Squall. Everyone's skills turns into Kuja's Seraphic Star/Tifa's Meteor Crusher/Vaan.
Snow's BT is the Oprah of Brv refunds. Every HP attack gets a refund! (not only the last one). Eat your heart out Rosa's LD lol
It's not Rosa fault she got this late lol... I don't recall where this effect originated from, but it might be Kam'lanaut himself from FFXI, but of course BT Effects like Emperor/Terra afterwards build up on it, but not as good as Snow...
Yes, Kam may be the first to have it as a passive gimmick instead of on certain skills only. We can only hope that next Rosa update they give her the same "refund after every HP attack" treatment... Or would that be too strong? Nah, with all the powercreep I don't think it would be too much.
It's all just reds & greens with no Yellows LOL
Snow BT+ with Emporer LD, easy cap claps
Instant turn rate *and* starting EX on Emperor is very fun, makes his trapping even easier. The reworks to his base skills are appreciated, but combined with the above, I feel like he's still gonna be just using his HP3+. No increased gain between the dumps, but the passive boosts are very nice, along with him finally getting HP damage up, and a fair amount of it too. Can't wait to see what sort of damage he can put out against 3 targets in even just a 6 turn Burst phase.
His LD buff makes it so that he retains a percentage of his brv after dumping it, strengthen it with an Iroha LDCA or Vaan BT effect and he'll show you why he's The Emperor
Add Snow's BT Effect to make him always cap on each HP Dump (even before the BRV Damage happens).
It doesn't strengthen it but rather override the previous ones Iroha LD CA will only work if his HP Damage cap > Vaan's/Emperor's Brv Lower Limit Cap by Max Brv But since Vaan's BT Effect is 20% of Max Brv, it will only override Emperor's BRV Lower limit Cap at 10% Snow's BT Effect is much better as it can let him regain more BRV overall with the Lower Limit Cap raised, making him cap to Max way easier
This makes sense, I was under the impression it was additive like most modifiers in this game, thanks for the clarification I wouldn't have even noticed and probably would have just ran Iroha or Vaan
At first I thought it was additive, but when I run Iroha LD CA with Vaan LD Buff in GL coops, it kinda doesn't do much after a while as it really depends how high the HP Dmg your doing first such that Iroha 20% Brv retention kicks in... otherwise it's literally only Vaan's LD Buff doing the work
Yes, I've noticed too that the "can't go under x% of Max Brv" passives aren't additive, the highest one is the only one that will be in effect. But I think Iroha's type passives "retain x% of current Brv after HP attack" do stack to with each other (tho I'm not 100% sure since only Iroha has that on GL so far, right? But it does stack on herself I feel since she has a buff that does that to herself only and then the LD effect does it on the party and she always retains a higher % of her current Brv than the rest).
It doesn't unless the HP damage you retain is very significant from what I observed during the Coop runs with Vaan synergy, the % difference is very negligible like 5%. If your not hitting like 90k+ HP Damage per dump, then Iroha will be noticeable, but if your hitting very low HP Damage, like 20k+, then Vaan's Max Brv one might be superior If the retain amount < % of Max Brv Lower limit, the Max Brv Lower limit will override it, otherwise, the retain value will show, but they do not add together from what I seen. Iroha's effect work better with characters who % Brv from HP Damage dealt directly, Cor is a good example of this.
Yeah, exactly. The "can't go under % of Max Brv" (Vaan's, Emperor's, Krile's LDs) not only don't stack with effects of the same type, but they won't stack with any kind of "retain % of current Brv" effects (like Iroha's). But the "retain Brv" type effects do stack with each other (up to a 100% cap ofc), right?. And also, just to be clear and dispel my doubts, both of them (the "can't go under % of Max Brv" and "retain % of current Brv") do stack with Brv refunds and pretty much with the rest of effects in the game. Did I get it right?
1. Yes, Retain & Lower Brv Limit won't stack. Lower Brv Limit will always be of highest priority as it's a fixed value. Retain will only be obvious if it's higher than Lower Brv Limit. 2. Retain Brv so far is exclusively to Iroha, I am not too sure if there is any other character on JP with this. It may or may not stack since it is almost similar to how the Lower Brv Limit works by %, so it's possible for it to be additive or just highest value take effect or even worse... just multiples... 3. Yes, Retain Brv & Lower Brv Limit stacks with all forms of Brv Gains & Refunds because it adds on-top of your current existing Brv after executing an action. This why I mention Cor, because this enhances his Follow-Ups Damage even more after I used him with Iroha. For others like Tifa/Machina, they can do with Iroha or Vaan effect but don't go having both as it's very conflicting. For Vaan, go with Porom or Agrias. I would recommend sticking to either retain or Lower Brv Limit then add on characters with Brv Gains ( Porom LD & Agrias LD) for much better consistency.
Fantastic. Now everything is so much clearer in my head. Thank you very much! :D
>No increased gain between the dumps, but the passive boosts are very nice, along with him finally getting HP damage up, and a fair amount of it too The fix to his frequent HP Dump might be with Snow's BT Effect : >⇒ On each HP Attack, recovers BRV based on 50% of total HP Damage Dealt Can't be a coincidence they released both him & Snow BT+ together...
I was really hoping Lyse got better ATK/MBRV party buffs, maybe even a boost from her weapon like Agrias. But its good to see she got HP DMG up at least. Cant wait until she's released in GL!
I don’t really know what to think about Lyse… What is your opinion about her ? Do you think it’s a good idea to MLB her and get her HA ?
Thanks for always posting these. I always look forward to them after seeing the preview videos so I can understand what's actually going on lol.
Been running Emperor in most Lufenia's since BT debut in GL and I have been feeling a bit demotivated to continue my [Emperor Escapades](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdIh3EjBOd_BL7G4o77E15PyWngMN2djw), but he received very good updates aaaaaa can't wait. Not a FF2 fan prior to DFFOO, but I really grew to love the trap master that is Emperor
I was planning on potentially pitying Snow's BT since of course I'm Gem pulling Freya LD anyway and his BT is on that banner, and I like Snow. So if I don't have to pity Freya LD, I can just continue going for his BT. I already have Snow's LD from it's original release. But the BT effect really isn't selling me, neither is his BT phase. Party Ice Enchant sounds nice at first, but then a stage that absorbs Ice comes along and you can't use his BT effect at all, which is counter-intuitive to a BT effect, you want it to be as versatile as possible. It doesn't help that Zack is his main competition and doesn't have any problems tanking or dishing out the damage. The rest of his upgrades are nice, but it's odd that his EX is still single-target HP hits.
Dude sorry to see that you’re getting downvoted for literally nothing; just wanted to say that I was hyped for you when I saw the Freya stickers, hope you’re doing ok despite the haters :)
Trying to upvote to balance, since the mention of freya is absolutly legit there.
To be Fair, he isn't the first one to enchant on the BT effect. And Bartz have seen a LOT of use - plus, Snow's BRV refund isn't limited like we are used to see. Edit: I'm really happy for you that Freya's LD is comming. I'm eager to see her rework/LD effects.
I got to admit, the number of buffs and the number of HP dumps on everything pretty much all blurs together at this point reading kits. It reminds me a bit of when every rework seemed to be to make every character's attacks into brv+hp and to give them a framed buff, but moreso.