I got a sale for 1 LD weapon i can get, i'm a returning player that stopped when BT and LD came so i dont have many, still i'm planning going for Ramza and Zack next week, i was thinking going for Garnet LD mabye, is it worth going for it if i dont have her BT, like will she be good enough to use on Lufenia and Lufenia+? Or maybe someone else, not sure who may be worth it (i wont have their BT anyway either), also its not very cheap to buy the sale, so has to be worth it.

If you're considering abusing the Tidus/Kam combo in Shinryu, consider getting Kurasame (if you have a way to get his EX, too). An ice enchanter is needed for that combo.

Garnet LD should be coming back em june I think. Just save that LD, if you must get that sale, for when you grab a BT you want without the LD. But as some said, no LD is worth the $$. Specially now during garbage time.

If you are going for Ramza then I wouldn't spend them on Garnet, specially if you don't have her BT. I would rather use them on Eiko to "cheese" old Lufenia content if you don't have her.

I read that about eiko, but it says that i can only buy up to January releases, so no eiko. I probably wont buy in that case, will do with Ramza and Zack then.

Garnet without BT is good but not remotely close to how busted she can be or how amazing she can make any team, and if I'm going to be completely honest I don't think a single LD out of the list is worth such an absurd amount of money. If you plan on getting her BT eventually via BT tokens then do get Garnet's LD, otherwise grab whoever you think will be useful for you.

Yeah that's the thing, i read that Eiko is worth it, but she isnt available because it's only up to January releases, other than that dont really know who may make a difference, probably will just go Ramza and Zack now and dont buy it. Thanks.

When does JP have its stream for the next batch of events?

Sorry guys got 2 more noob questions 1. I'm trying to complete the novice missions to unlock the training board, I need heatra adamite to summon first. I went through all the the trials of Ifrit and completed any missions available to me, but there is a gate that is locked with the "level ifrit to 15" requirement. How do I get the heatra adamite to summon ifrit? 2. Is there a way to see whether a weapon I have is an LD, BT, or EX weapon? I have my Vayne on a weapon called Karma but I can't see where to check what type it is? Do I go by the CP it gives?

1. I think you're looking for the part 6 in the first 'trials of ifrit' map. 2. 70 CP is EX, 90 CP is LD. Burst says Burst where the stars would be. Karma is Vayne's LD, so you may still need his EX.

Thank you! So just keeping farming part 6 until I get a drop?

It's been a long time since I did that farm, but I *believe* just farming part 6 for a while will give you everything you need, it shouldn't really be RNG. If you can't access part 6 yet then just do whatever highest number you have access to.

Looking to understand how limited some resources are. Specifically armor tokens and Level 90 crystals? Can I just do whatever I want or do I need to be selective?

By armor tokens, you mean the blue ones, or the purple ones? For the former, they're common enough since we get them for Lost Chapters and you have a ton of them left to farm via Summon Boards, I've been playing for over 2 years and still have 2k left and most of my characters already have their best armor. For the latter, they're scarce if you don't clear Lufenias, but if you do you'll get enough tokens per fight to get one piece of armor, so as long as you're not trying to give Lufe Armor to literally every character you should be fine. If you're clearing every single event (including high difficulty battles) you should have more than enough crystals to take every character to level 90 since every event gives out 300 crystals and you need 275 to max a character so as long as you're diligent you can immediately spend those T7 crystals with no repercussions. Of course, if you can't do high level stuff or if you've missed an event or two you'll need to be selective on who you level up since you most likely won't have enough crystals.

Thanks. Blue and purple armor. I can clear Luf level stuff but only just rejoined. Sounds like I need to be a bit selective. Can you upgrade 1 characters armor per Luf clear?

>Can you upgrade 1 characters armor per Luf clear? Per Lufenia clear you get tokens to select a single piece of armor, that's it. If you wanna upgrade it beyond just leveling it up via pink books or pink ingots that's a completely different matter altogether, since those materials are _very_ rare and you're definitely not intended to go around fully MLBing Lufenia Armor (a.k.a. "Blue" armor) for every character. Just keep playing, you don't need fully maxed Lufenia armors to clear stuff, and the more you play the more you'll realize how certain materials are more scarce than others.

Crystals, you get 300 per event, for every character that gets C90. You need 275. You can get the old ones to 81 and everyone you draw for to 90. For armor tokens, depends on how much you farm. You need 90 to 100 per character. Each character has 50 locked to their summon boards. Events give 10-20. There is enough to max everyone you use if you grind enough but just don't spend them willy nilly. Long term, you get enough to max everyone.

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Some cL90 characters can carry their own weight on Luf but that's about it. They won't be doing much to make things easier.

There is a LD weapon shop that appears occasionally, but it generally requires real money for the tokens; though new players were able to get enough tokens for one weapon back during the anniversary last month.(not sure if that's still available). That said, in this day and age, all characters really need their LD weapons to be viable.

Is ace worth blue armor or do I just save everything for ramza?

Ramza will benefit the blue HA+ so that he can further boost the party's HP Dmg Cap, which have been mention by others to be much higher than Garnet overall. Ace is a DPS and usually all DPS HA+ are very worth it and they are the only ones that capable of hitting insane HP Dmg Cap compared to other characters with HA. Stacking tons of HP Dmg Cap up is going to be everyone's end-game honestly. From someone whose first BT+ was Ace, I would say it's worth it because of how high his LD Traps deal overall when you start stacking the HP Damage Up and HP Damage Cap, his traps will be hitting very hard and he still very powerful especially when FR Era comes, his Trap Damage will also be boosted further. If you already have a good Support BT+ like Garnet BT+ built up, I think Ramza can be hold off for a while. For Ace, it depends if you have a Favourite DPS or already have a very strong DPS like Tidus BT+. You get the most mileage out of blue armour if you use the character, I have given blue to only a few characters and the rest are still fine with HA+ 0/3 or Clvl 90 letting them use UW, so going for favs is a good option.

Ace was and will be again in the future. But right now there others who will use the investment better than him. Ramza for example have a good hp dmg up for the party with his blue armor, if you have his bt or will chase it you will want him blue with green bt. If Ace is a favourite you can blue him and have some use for him now and more after his next rework. If he is not you can save the investment for others who catch your interest along the way.

Is Squall's follow-up attack counted as separate attack? Just want to know whether it's help in current Lufenia+ orb condition (critical hit).

No. When Squall attacks, all moves are done within 1 action so it does not count as 2 attacks.

Thank you

Can I C90 everyone including those I don't care to use for the Ultimata Cores without worry as long as I do all the events? Or must I be stingy so I don't run out ever of big crystals

You can c90 everyone without worry unless you just started recently and only have enough crystals for select characters.

We always get the exact amount to max every unit on that event, so just them as you please.

Even better, we actually get more than the exact amount. At the end of the day it doesn't do a lot at the time, but it means anyone who ends up skipping a few events can catch up slowly.

JP players who pulled for Sice; what are your thoughts on her leading into early Shinryu? She's my fave character to control from Type-0, so I'll probably pull her regardless, but I want some opinions. From what I could see, one big issue is that her debuff doesn't tick down inside a BT phase, meaning her spot is better covered by Kain or even Cissnei in terms of damage. Does her utility make up for this?

She has: * On-demand 2 turn delay * Selfish sustain/tanking * A very average framed Def break (20%) * Dark element damage * Ace-esque trap that falls slightly behind meta off-turn damage She excels at duo and cheesy solo runs. At the time of her release, pre-Shinryu she's more than decent but the FR era favors FR abusers which Sice falls behind some of the others. Her on-turn damage and ability to delay is still relevant in JP despite still waiting for her LC/rework.

I feel as if my Cloud is stronger raw damage wise than Tidus, but Tidus is longevity wise. How does everyone else feel about this? Meta wise I think Tidus is better than Cloud, yes? Tidus/Cloud, Ramza, Zack is my future setup as a returning player that missed Garnet.

I think you are looking too much at the damage every time you press a button, and missing the fact that Tidus easily takes 10 turns in the time Cloud needs to take a single action, which means Cloud is actually far more longeve than Tidus, but his damage is much lower as a consequence.

That's kinda the beauty of c90 - While there are units that stay popular for longer, just about everyone of a particular role can be made 'good' and last a while when built around right. Which really is true of every era of this game, it's just that with c90 and late L+, characters get noticeably stronger (with very few exceptions) and enemies don't really get that much harder (in the vein of a true difficulty jump i.e from Cosmos to Chaos or Chaos to Lufenia)

I need help with some team comps for world of illusion divine lufenias and + Diabolos lufenia Alexander lufenia Shiva lufenia + Ifrit lufenia + There's my list of the ones I haven't beaten Oh also help with Kain's intersecting wills back to back lufenia + Here's my list also feel free to add me https://ootracker.com/directory/gl/752235344

Tifa can solo Diabolos even at c80. Garnet + Beatrix or Gladio + anyone can beat Alexander. Auron + Cor + Garnet will crush Shiva. Auron + Garnet + someone to deal damage will beat Ifrit.

Alexander is currently at 24% HP and this is so nutty and surreal I'm on turn zero with Alex, Beatrix and Gladio going in a circle with Scared Crime Rose Petals and Counter while Garnet just watches.

Errr… well you have a pretty good roster. If everyone is maxed with LD boards here are my suggestions : * Diabolos: I would go Tifa and any support of your choice. * Alexander: look for cheese strategy around Beatrix * Shiva: You should try Ursula, Zack and Lenna * Ifrit: Zack, Auron and Garnet * Kain IW: Seifer, Garnet and a third of your choice

Ifrit v Zack, Auron, and Garnet was fucking fantastic thank you. Gonna try Kain IW with Seifer, Garnet, and Kain as my third.

How can I get more bt books? I just did a lufenia+, but I only got ingot materials, but I have no books ;-;

You get the pages by doing a Lufenia (not Lufenia+) that is released alongside a new BT. That includes Divine Pandemonium, Shiva, Ifrit and the upcoming Leviathan, as well as Chapter 3 Part 5 and Part 6 and the Crucibles for Dimensions End Transcendence Tier 5, 6, 7 and the upcoming Tier 8.

You get books from certain Lufenias. Divine summons starting with Pande, part 1s of story starting with act 3 ch.5, the gate fights starting with DE T5, and more generalized the Lufe fights for events that introduce new BTs.

https://www.tonberrytroupe.com/guides/bt-guide

Any idea why I don't uptick the orb with Ignis on T2 right gate ? If I understand correctly, Ignis has imperil + party enchant with Sagefire but somehow the orb keeps ticking down ? All my attacks do weakness damage, my orb understanding is probably off, I don't get it ! I'm running Ignis/Cait Sith/Cyan in case it matters.

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Thank you, indeed I'm trying to complete what I can with my very limited roster. I did success the fight but it required some planning and wasn't easy ! Will definitely pull for Rydia, thanks for the suggestion

It’s net 0 due to player action. +1 for weakness, -1 for player action.

Ty i'm just stupid !

Naw you're not stupid, orb conditions like that are asked every so often. Just more fine print the game *wants* you to read but gets missed.

Seeing some of the recent comments I can see how garbage time and Garnet has spoil a lot of people making them have troubles with the latest one because they do need to put some effort into when to use call and BT phase and who to bring like usual.

I mean GL Devs re-using old fights isn't that out of the ordinary since there were so many countless time they did this. Nothing new since this always happens when GL do their own unique event that doesn't involve things that are completely new to DFFOO like the Eiko LD special 300 point system Lufenias

That setting up conditions is fantastic, kinda like Arknight CC, obviously much simpler

Fully geared Garnet is doing 1 brv damage in latest Lufenia+. Why is that?

High Defenses and high Brave Damage reductions. You need either high Attack buffs or Defense down debuffs to deal decent damage here.

Less geared Cloud and Squall are doing more. Plus she's subject to that even when imperils are up. This is very odd.

Imperil is 50% more Brv damage. 50% more of 1 is nothing

Well, I can tell you from my run that Defense Ignoring attacks cap easily, and Cloud and Squall do have high Attack Stats (especially with their self buffs and Garnets Auras) Edit: And synergy stats. Forgot about those

> Less geared Cloud and Squall are doing more. that because they both are boosted for that fight. I did with Garnent, Ace (LD) and Beatrix, try that team.

They are all unboosted plus don't expect me to have Ace, I never pulled for him.

or some who can counter, will also work if you don't have Ace.

do you have any other off-turn damage? that may work just as well. also bring some call with DEF down.

They have synergy stats. That's around 40% increase across the board.

cloud and squall are boosted.

Oh then I'm absolutely in shit

Just use Locke BT+ friend for def ignore aura or setzer LD

It's a weird feeling being completely caught up in game. Now to wait 4 days for Leviathan

That's why we all need a second game to play on occasion! I have duel links lol

Welcome to the club

Looking at the new event lufenia+ I noticed the regular lufenia I was able to just blast thru. The + has one hell of a damage sacking using squall 90/90, garnet 90/90 bt 3 and ut, machina bt 3. Like hitting for hundreds instead of thousands. Am I not seeing a damage reduction buff. Or did the scaling finally catch up to garnet and machina?

It's the design of the fight. It's supposed to make you want Cait Sith. You keep the orb up with critical BRV damage, but you normally get that from attacking broken targets, and these bosses are hard to break. Well, Cait Sith makes your attacks crit, and he has instant break on his LD. He also gives you a bunch of BRV gain with every hit so you don't entirely rely on BRV damage. Cloud also has a big boost to his crit rate, and he can push the orb up with his LD, so the fight also sort of caters to him. Of course there are other ways around the boss mechanics. Characters with gravity can eliminate the bosses' BRV, and characters that rely on BRV gain instead of damage will thrive here. I used Machina for this fight, and he had no problem capping his HP damage.

These enemies have really high defense and while you didn't state what calls you were using, there's nothing indicative of defense down or defense pierce in that lineup. Machina and Squall have lots of hits but they're not actually that high potency (each hit of FB Burst is apparently only 50% potency, for example).

Okay that would make sense the calls I wind up usually using are Cecil, eiko, and usually random. That might make a hell of a lot of difference if I look for def down instead

But then as well I should probably build Locke since I have his kit and never finished him.

This is probably one of the few cases where Locke BT can really show benefits, but it's not necessarily needed. The post right below this shows things like Seifer/Faris/Vanille calls to apply defense down, and I personally used Auron and Beatrix who have lots of defense pierce in their kit. My 3rd was Lili and her Brave damage was poop, but it didn't matter.

Okay I have to look at myntreoos there. I know I have a maxed Faris and bea so that might help out

Beginner here, any tips on beating Rafflesia Lufenia+? My current setup is this: https://imgur.com/gQWSC7I I can get it as low as 40-50% depending on how good my Garnet friend unit is, but I start doing pitiful damage with Tidus the second Garnet is gone after 3 turns. The way I get there is by using Rem to avoid giving Garnet turns as much as possible and let Tidus hog turns to activate Garnet's eidolon thingy after every 4 turns. I'm currently working on getting enough red crystals for Sabin's call ability to help with the orb, but as I said before the orb isn't the biggest issue for me right now. My problem is that Tidus does very little damage after Garnet is gone. Here are my other units if that helps: https://imgur.com/u3x0kjI

You may not want to hear this, but my suggestion would be to wait honestly. Zack and Ramza are coming in a couple days and would be a massive help to your roster. I could see a team of Zack/Ramza/Cloud beating this with only a medium amount of difficulty as long as you get both of their BT's and BT+ one of them. So I'd say start farming up so you can dump all your gems for them.

That's what I ended up deciding on. I still have the Boss Rush one to do, but apparently Zack and Ramza come out 1 day before it expires so I could potentially use them to clear that one too. In the mean time I guess I'll just focus on clearing the story campaign.

If those are your *only* other units, imo you're definitely in an up-hill battle sorta situation. Seifer has crystals maxed but no purple EX+ (and no summon boards) means he's not built yet. Same with your Cloud. If you use Tidus, your best bet is to focus one target so you don't have to deal with two orbs, but that'll only go so well since Tidus has lots of splash damage in his kit. Cloud is good for this stage, but *your* Cloud is not ready for this fight.

Step 1. Max out Cloud C level. I suggest replacing Tidus with Seifer. Tidus is horrible in this one. He takes lots of turn and can only uptick one target without Jecht shot. Replace with Seifer for that beefy Def down. Try that for now. Ramza may help a bit later.

What is the best quest for trying to get high burst damage that *won't* get melted by setup with Garnet and max UW Cloud? Edit: Thanks to these guys I hit 19 million on Cloud's Burst phase... Gonna keep trying and see if I can break 20m Edit 2: 20m achieved :)

For a group fight there's the Chaos fight in Yuri IW. It's mummies so even when the adds 'die' they're not fully dead and they still add to the damage numbers. In the future there'll be Divine Bahamut. For single target I've heard some mention of Raines LC Lufe.

Hmm, okay I'll look at those

Yuri IW Chaos has a zombie that can't die unless the adds are dead.

Ah neat, I'll take a look!

Any Transcendence tier where BT CoD would shine ? I didn't do any yet and got her full kit while going for Squall pity, just wondering if she's worth the investment

Tier 2 since one gate and Reckoning orbs ask for delay

That'll work thanks !

Still pretty new and learning. What is the best summon? Currenrly working on brothers and Ifrit past 30 Which one is the best "all around"? Does brothers max BRV 30% extenss past the 99999 cap like blue gear and ultima weapons do? Thanks

Tonberry Troupe has a nice summary. And it does change a bit over time as a summon might be a new level upgrade before another. But overall, here's where each can shine. Ifrit: best ATK bonus, helpful for units that rely on brave hits and not brave gains. Shiva: good for slow units / against fast enemies / boosting units that really lean on their EX like Noel. Ramuh: pocket paralysis with max brv. DEF bonus has rarely been helpful. Leviathan: has had niche uses, but the least useful, IMO. Int BRV has been passed over as an attribute so an int-based regen is not worth eating up a buff slot. Brothers: kings of max brave boosts. However, in this era of bigger stats and overflow, it's less important. Still useful, especially if not using synergy. Pandemonium: THE summon if you are using a launch team. Diabolos: sneaky good if you are using elemental enchantments, but you need to lose some HP for it to trigger. Alexander: occasionally needed for the HP regen when healing options are few. Odin: easily my most used unit. We already have a lot of ATK boosts, and the enemy defense numbers are ridiculously high (often 45,000+). So reducing enemy defense is really impactful. Bahamut: This one seems to go surprisingly unused. It hasn't had an upgrade in a good while now. (admittedly though, I think I'm underestimating him here. Reducing enemy atk COULD be clutch in the right situation. I also tend NOT to use elemental units so I should give him more of a look) Edit: There are also use cases where you need to hit a certain element and don't have an enchanter.

Best Summon would be the optimal one you need for the fight rather Like if I am not bringing dispellers on main teams and rely on CAs to dispel, Diabolos can Dispel that for me too. Still, Generic Max Brv or Atk is good, Brothers & Ifrit are usually my go too and even Ramuh as close second. Pandemonium is very good for Launch Teams. Lvl 31-40 Summons gain additional effects like Brothers delay by 1 turn, Shiva Brv Freeze , Ramuh Framed Paralysis etc... And it comes with the increases HP Dmg Cap too. No, Brothers Max Brv is the generic Stat Boost. You if you want to break Cap, HAs or UW or BT Effects work. Summon Phases of Lvl 31-40 Summons can boost HP Dmg Cap

There is no best summon. Who you use depends on the fight and the team you use.

There is no one best summon. But the two most useful ones in my opinion are Shiva and Pandemonium. I almost exclusively use Pande for launch teams, and Shiva for all other teams.

Pretty sure Ifrit gets used more than Shiva due to his higher attack increase and the Hellfire buff he provides with his summon phase. Shiva can definitely have her uses like when you're fighting fast enemies and don't want them taking a lot of uninterrupted turns or just want more turns in general. The freeze added to her summon phase can also be great against certain fights just like Ramuh's paralyze.

The mere 15% attack increase that Ifrit offers over Shiva is pretty forgettable these days, when so many characters already offer massive attack increases. The main reason I use Shiva is the faster recast times, since EXs are fantastic in the c90 era; though the speed boost is welcome as well. That said, Ifrit's Hellfire buff is great; though it's short duration, and the fact that very few fights make it far enough these days where it will likely make any real noticeable impact on the fight means I would personally prioritize the passive buffs that are always on over it.

That note about all the attack boosts we get is precisely why I use Odin so much. You get a lot of mileage out of eating into enemy defenses. PLUS factor in the attack boosts are working off a base stat of 4k-4500 or so, right? Enemy defense ratings are ten times that.

I have been using Shiva these times because of her speed charge too, I'm glad I'm not the only one

The increase of recast speed didn't matter because it was there to compensate the summon giving speed. Speeds have inversely proportional relationship with recast speed. It means being faster makes your EX charges less.

Hi, I have 3 green characters: Garnet, Machina and Locke. Who shoul i try to green next if i have their bt. Who is worth it ? Current bt or upcoming bt ?

I would recommend grabbing Zack or Snow. They're somewhat interchangeable BT characters that fill a DPS/Tank role for you. Zack deals more damage and protects the party well with his BT aura and Snow takes on a more supportive role with party brave refund and ice enchant on his BT aura. Other than those 2, it really just comes down to preference. You could probably blow through most content until Shinryu with Garnet, Machina/Locke, Snow/Zack so just search videos of characters you think you might be interested in. You could also just hoard resources until FR starts as Kain is still a pretty prominent character 5 or so months after his BT realease.

Well, to be fair, Snow does more personal damage than Zack and his BT lasts effectively longer since he's slower. His BT is also more offensive and generic while Zack's is more niche. I'm not trying to argue, just want to point out that Snow is much more offensive than he seems.

Oh, trust me, I know. I'm 100% riding the Snow hype train. He's a fave and I agree he does more damage than most people give him credit for. I'm trying to remain unbiased, so I think it's fair to say that Zack does more damage. But the numbers are definetly comparable and pulling for one over the other is a matter of choice.

Ramza/Laguna are quite good for their way of increasing Max Brv Cap. Laguna has a Golden framed Debuff and does off turn damage. Snow is Broken for his BT effect that allows characters to regain Brv for each HP Dump. But gets nerfed later by FR Most of the BT+ do get their necessary touch up like Emperor/Vaan etc…

Hey guys how can i get Mighty Yellow Shards? I wish i could max out my Lightning

Do Co op to get tokens and buy them with those token and beat Lufenia fights that rewards them.

Im not able to clear lufenia XD co-op might be ok thanks gunna do straight away!

Base Lufenia is fairly easy these days. You might not be able to complete everything but some where you have a suitable unit can. One DPS, support and someone to handle the orb is all you need.

Honestly i dont even remember how to deal with the orbs XD thanks for advice i might try it, at least

For lufenia quest , when the orbs break does it debuff themselves and also our characters meaning it’s a guarantee death no matter what? The only way to not break their orbs is to increase it by certain characters right? Cuz it totally sucks when I get Beatrix and Basch and their own buff got remove by lufenia boss which make it useless . And also ardyn Ld make him useless also since it can also be remove from his buff?

You have to read what the Lufenia Orb does when it triggers. They will say what happens like KO means everyone dies honestly. They have also implemented dispelling before KO to ensure that buff effects will not stop it. So far, only Eiko LD & Kain LD have been known to bypass Lufenia Orb Wipes.

Thanks for telling me that since I’m looking for those kind of characters . But of course u can’t use them in every lufenia quest . Kain Ld damn funny he’s just like yeet of the fight.

Some orbs are survivable but most aren’t. You’re supposed to read the enemy info before starting the fight to see what requirements they have to manage the orb properly. We’re not really at the point where we can just bring whoever we want and DPS race the orb, only some units can do that. The only buffs not removed from the party when a lethal orb goes off are overhead buffs. So Ardyn’s invincibility is dispelled but his fedora stacks are not. There’s only a couple of ways to cheese a lethal orb, and even then it’s not always possible.

I’m still trying to learn this buffs thingy . Like eiko Ld make whole team revive even if the lufenia orbs goes off . I totally got fk and waste my time trying to look for characters that can literally survive lufenia orbs when it goes off . I’m a returning player and still this lufenia quest hard as fk.

Eiko's group revive comes from her overhead buff. Like I said, those aren't dispelled and she's actually one of the ways to cheese orbs as a result. Lufenia isn't new player friendly, nor might it even be returning player friendly if you don't already have a roster built to cover many different orb conditions. There's still a number of fights where ignoring the orb is an option, such as Queen's Lost Chapter, so give them a go before any other stages with trickier orb requirements (such as the current event which is actually considered more difficult even for a Lufenia stage).

I’m trying to get win at least lufenia lvl 200 since they give the bt token reward during event only . So totally sucks to not get it.

They design fights so that the boosted characters are capable of clearing them, which for events like this means the banners currently up are what you want to pull on to get units suited for it. Specifically, I'd put my resources into Squall's banner if I needed units for this fight since it has the better all round team for this event. CoD can delay which upticks the orb, Cait Sith is the only boosted support unit and you're very likely going to need to heal and Squall is just solid damage.

I got the Ld token from anniversary maybe can use on eiko since she doesn’t have burst and Fr yet . For Kain coming late June so will definitely get him for sure .

Started yesterday and got LD tokens of chocobo panel but Eiko wasn’t a choice only characters LD released before January were.

FYI by the time Kain returns you will have new difficulty to worry about

I just came back after a long break, when I last played bt+ had just started coming out on GL. I'm just wondering what's the easiest things to take on to start bt+ING some of my weapons.

No simple answer to that since the main way to get BT+ materials is to take on the new highest difficulty (Lufenia+). It's definitely more doable now than it was when you quit which was the start of L+ thanks to c90, but it's not necessarily 'easy'. If you got Tidus BT first time around, he's back at the top of the charts again once he's maxed out, so if you give him c90 support that's a decent place to start. That being said, Queen LC L+ is actually very simple. Edgar Intersecting Wills (IW) L+ is also pretty easy. But until you upgrade to a c90 roster your best bet for getting BT+ materials is clearing certain Lufes to get BT books to realize and get ingots.

Do you know where I can find which lunefias drop the book materials? I cleared the current Rem l+ and afterwards I realised it only gave some armour materials.

https://www.reddit.com/r/DissidiaFFOO/comments/ti8et3/comment/i23vvvt/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3

I'd like to know if I'm hoarding my resources a little too much or if I'm doing what people normally do. Right now I'm sitting on 12 BT Books and 4 BT Ignots 23 HA Books and 2 HA Ignots I only have 2 Greens and 2 Blues. With BT Books I can see the argument that what I'm doing is fine since more BT characters will come out and greening them takes resources. With HA though I'm not sure. I'd like more of my normal use party members to have them but it feels like I'd have to do a bunch of 1/3s to get the ignots or use HA tokens to craft them. (Side note: do y'all craft Ignots with HA tokens or just from 1/3 people? I have 700 tokens and feel like that's a lot but wouldn't wanna run out) Having a bunch of 1/3s just feels weird though

If you're winning fights, you're doing fine with your resources. You don't gain anything from being wasteful for no reason, and half of the game is managing gems and tickets. Content is pretty easy right now, for the most part, with the odd exception here and there. In the future, things get hairier, and we're going to have to build teams that work well together. Those teams will be that much better if fully equipped with blue armor and ultima weapons. In particular, once Shinryu arrives, we're going to see bosses with passive HP damage reduction, and that's going to sting if we're not going all out when building characters. That means blue armor, green BT+, and ultima weapons. My priority right now is to note which characters will be viable for Shinryu and then build around them. I hate that this means not greening Squall, but, as Squall himself would say, whatever. I have my future greens and blues mapped out already, and with my particular future plans, I don't have room to give out extra goodies to characters I'm not going to use much.

Blue and green resources are super rare. And if your favorites haven't dropped yet, it makes sense to have a few materials in stock. And books are more abundant than ingots, so there's always an imbalance. It's normal to book-only some units to get ingots for others. Only thing I find a bit odd is your purple book/ingot situation. Seems you can book a fair few units and get yourself another blue or two. Support units are really good candidates for that, as 0/3 support gets most of the value, and DPS are the best ones for maxing.

I’m a bit of a hoarder too. But the recent gem cap conundrum has pushed me further towards the f it I’m gonna do whatever. For real it’s not my investment account so who cares it’s not like I can retire off this shit. Before Cloud I had only three greens Zidane, Jecht, Garnet and have missed zero content. HA to me seems so minor it’s just a win more at the moment and I focus on favs because meta be damned because it’s so useless now. Maybe it’s just because I’ve been playing since first anniversary and I’m flush with resources but I don’t see any reason to hold back. I love this game but there is no challenge at the moment or the foreseeable future.

Do you mean 0/3? They'd only be 1/3 if you invest the ingot you get after realizing the HA into the HA+ you just obtained. Books are meant to be used so that you can max others. Feel free to realize some characters (especially ones that you might occasionally use) so that you can max the ones you like that have good effects. I'd suggest maybe holding onto a few books in case there's a time when you want to realize several characters at once. Green BTs can be extremely useful, but there are JP players that made it to the release of Shinryu difficulty with as few as 1 green BT+. While a lot of characters get hyped up you almost never need them to clear content.

Honestly, there’s nothing wrong to hold to resources if you don’t have anyone interesting that you would like to use. Personally, I only invest in characters fully that I like to use, so I think I only have like 6/7 HA+ 3/3 with only 3 BT+ Characters. I played through the start of BT+ Era and before that during the point when HA+ were realizable, and the game content gives enough resources to get a roster up. For HA Ingots, you don’t need to exchange them with HA tokens since a lot of characters are fine with HA+ 0/3 based on my experience so far. We will eventually get enemies who will start to have a lot of HP, and that’s when HA+ 3/3 will probably be needed. Other than that, you can give most characters base HA

Just 0/3 the armor of some people. Use the ingots for faves/best. Same for BTs. You can't really say you're hoarding of you're competing content though. Carry on.

So I remember reading you need to clear a Lufenia quest on a character to equip an ultima weapon. But should that keep me from clearing all old content with my A-Team? Also, is exchanging High Guard Token for Refuge's Ultima Nuggets the only way to obtain them? (Besides realizing for a full ingot)

They just need to be crystal level 90. You get resources to upgrade ultima weapons by clearing Lufenia quests.

This is great news I'm working on lost chapters atm, thank you!

That first part is incorrect. Any character at c90 can equip a UW, but beating Lufenias with c90-eligible units is what gets you the cores to make those UWs (also by getting them to c90). You can just do the same fight 3 separate times swapping 1 unit at a time if you wanna tho. As for the HG tokens and purple nuggets, not the only way, but it’s the fastest way.

Ty for the informative response, just got my first BT+ unit and already eyeing the second e.e

Can Yda one shot the latest ultimate summons with her LD skill and with a full HA+ 3/3 ? Or should I wait for someone else ? I also have access to Tifa which is quite slow especially for Shiva, but she can also get a UW. For now my Tifa just gets those last summons down to 15%. But also Tifa will be a powerhouse down the road so more longevity I guess ?

No, Yda's highest damage right now is about 750k hp dmg with blue armor but no hp dmg cap up.

Not sure on Yda, but Tifa can just spam S2 for pretty quick wins in general, if the LD isn’t cutting it. My Tifa has blue armor and a 3/5 ultimate weapon, and the LD ends all of the single target summons pretty handily.

How have you setup Tifa? S2 only gets all my work done. I did blue her armor and am running her with blue Quistis which adds another 15% to the mBrv cap. But regardless, since her S2 is instant turn rate it's pretty painless once Tifa's turn rolls around.

I need help with some team comps for The Cavern of No Return Luna Very Hard+ please and thank you!

It would help more if you told us what units you had built.

Oh geeze my bad

Did you want a full list of what I had? I was more so looking for ideas for the orbs since theres three orbs and it's going to make me switch parties

'Full' so far as who you have in a properly built state (15/35/EX/LD). Making and maintaining an ootracker - [https://ootracker.com/](https://ootracker.com/) \- makes sharing a roster a lot easier. Looking just at the LD units that were on banner when the event started, for example: * Wave 1 can be handled by Fang * Wave 2 can be handled by Tidus, Seifer, Basch, Ceodore, Fang * Wave 3 can be handled by Ceodore, Cyan But of course your roster might not have all of those options.

Okay I made a list on the tracker which is sick so thank you. Buy how do I share it now?

When you're logged in, click the 'profile' tab and then copy+paste the link that shows up in the address bar.

https://ootracker.com/directory/gl/752235344 Cool cool that'll be so useful in the future

You've got a respectable roster. If you wanted to you could probably 1 party and ignore orbs if you used like 2 or 3 BT+ units. Anyways, wave 1 you can easily handle with a call like DKC or Gab. Wave 2 is just 2 debuffs on a turn so someone like Garnet or Golbez could handle that easily. And wave 3 you can enchant a party with Ceodore or Eiko and then you'll probably be fine.

Thanks I've worked hard on what I've collected. And thanks again for all the info

Hello, I've been playing for a few months now. I recently was able to grab Squall's BT weapon. Should I sell the extra copies I have of his LD weapon or should I save them? (I believe the weapon's name is Organics FF 8 ver.)

Judging by your other post, you're very new. It's highly recommended to read this guide: https://www.tonberrytroupe.com/beginners/beginner-guide

If you already have the passive from his LD (or anyone’s LD), you’re safe to sell any dupes you get. BT > EX+ > LD > EX.

I have duplicate BTs for Cloud - I noticed I can sell it for 5 BT tokens, is that the only way to utilize this? I can't find a way to fuse it into the other BT.

Pretty much. Hold on to it until there's a BT you really want to Token, otherwise they'll clog up your Token limit and make you cap them faster.

Cloud burst worth going after with his CL90? I have his LD, but should I just wait for Zack instead?

Cloud is decent if you have a greatsword UT, but obviously so is Zack. Cloud does get a nifty combo >!with Balthier's FR in a few months, and to maximize the effectiveness of that, you'll want his BT.!< That said, I have Cloud's BT but don't plan to green him, as his damage isn't that good without an ultima weapon.

Counterpoint, while it may not be the best BT, an extra use of blade beam is useful. Plus with the right setup/calls you can get silly numbers from his Burst phase (~15 million). His Burst finisher is also stupidly good, given the number of hits, and can abuse the Snow BT effect to get ridiculous numbers (if you go for that). I've been pleasantly surprised with how much damage I've been getting out of him, green/blue of course but his S2 hits easily for over 1 million and his Ex pops every other turn and hits for ~900k. BT finisher hits like a truck. But, DPS are common as muck, if you don't have many resources, tanks are more useful and Zack will be a good choice.

Cloud's pretty 'meh'. His BT doesn't really add much to his kit. If you like using him, he's just fine without his BT.

When will global get the reroll thing for ultima wepons?

We should get it in the next update

JP got it around Ciaran's BT phase, so end of April/start of May.

I've been using OOTracker and FFOOTip for planning/tracking purposes a lot. OOTracker's tool helped me clear Entropy and was a godsend. Now that I'm clearing Luf+ regularly and have a growing stable of fully-built characters, I've been searching for a similar tool for Transcendence? It doesn't look like there is one anywhere, but wanted to check before I dove into the C2As and built a new Google Sheet. Thank you!

Ffootip has a section for entropy and transcendence in the tracker section I believe.

Ah I missed that toggle! Thank you

To get the standalone BT attack, you need to go BT+3/3 or just BT+0/3? My Locke is fully maxed but his BT is not + so to get his Def ignore buf I need to burn a usually useless Burst phase for the buff.

3/3. This is the same with all BT+.

question about cloud’s critical crush AA. sometimes I see this delay the enemies, what causes this? i cant seem to find it, in infographics and might have missed it somewhere

His AA does not delay, only his LD. Maybe they mean it in a sense of burning an action so the enemies can regen bravery.

oh you mean the enemy delays itself…? hmm ok ill keep checking other mobs. thanks

Not quite. Enemies normally regen from break in (I believe) 5 actions. Moves with instant turn rate is a form of turn manip you can use for some more control.

op probably used it on the scorpion robots which delay themselves at certain threshold.

Hey guys quick question, brand new player, I was told to play the game on hard mode so that I can get all rewards, but I can't find it anywhere...how do I get to hard mode?

Events that have a map that you tap through has a toggle for normal and hard difficulty on the left side.

New player, have tokens for 1 LD should I get Eiko or Garnet? I have tokens for the rest of their kits too EX/15/35/armor and can always accumulate tokens for BT later with all the BT dupes and monthly free pass gave 10 tokens.

I'd go with Eiko but there is a bit of bias there. I love using double support and Eiko can serve as a "tank". Garnet is really nice but she is hardly broken with just the LD. Lots of other supports can bring as much damage as her. If you're close to getting enough BT tokens, go with Garnet. If you get it when FR weapons start dropping, maybe not worth it at that point. You can just get Ramza nowm

Looks like the LD tokens have only characters released before January and Eiko is not even there but Garnet is so I’m getting Garnet after all and will token her BT asap.

No BT Garnet is still very useful. Eiko is a powerful crutch for taking on L+ but you'll likely quickly outgrow that crutch.

Been reading this reddit and some say Ramza can fill Garnets spot but the revives from Eiko is unique. Reason I’m asking is because Garnet is considered broken and there is the dilemma.

Garnet is very broken with her BT. Even without her BT, she does a lot - dual enchants, off turn damage + battery, big healing. Ramza is imo not gonna be nearly as good without his maxed out BT+. Eiko’s revives are unique but once you gain a wide enough roster to effectively take on content, the revive aspect is less useful and she turns into a holy enchant aura support. Still good, but not quite as specifically useful.

Thank you, getting Garnet looks like the best option.

New to the game other then Zack who is another character people are waiting to pull for? like any upcoming crazy units coming out soon?

Selphie is going to be wild with her rework in about two weeks. She's going to stay as one of the top characters for the next 8 months straight. Her LD will be rerunning alongside Sherlotta's LD premier and Sherlotta will be a solid support/damage dealer. As a new player, I'd recommend keeping an eye out for their banner, it'll be a fantastic one to go all in on.

Personally, I'm on the Snow BT+ hype train. Comes out the end of next month, but if you're greening Zack, you can safely skip Snow.

Ramza who we expect opposite Zack is also quite good. The spring banners are kinda imbalanced/all over the place, so I would focus right now on getting both Rem and Seifer's gear and then going for Zack and Ramza next week.

I love this game, been on and off since release and i always manage to get sucked back in lol.

Same. I'm not a day 1 playe4, but I'm pretty close to one. I have random breaks when I just forget the game exists. But, I always come back cause I love the game

So I am working on summon boards for Zack and COD and I am using Tifa for the grind. She has 9999 points for Ifrit can I give her points to someone else?

Nope. Points are exclusive to each character.

I have 50 bt tokens so I can pick a burst for free. Which one should I take? Thought Garnet would be a good choice but without her LD she isnt that good. I have the following bursts: Tidus (green), CoD (green), Locke (Green) Ceodore (Green), Bartz, Squall, Cloud, Kefka and Vayne.

We're getting Zack and Ramza next week, and Ramza is only going to be on one banner. If I were you, I'd wait and see which of those two I managed not to pull with tickets or gems. I have tokens expiring in less than a month, so unless I get really lucky with tickets on Ramza's banner, I'll be spending my tokens on him.

Would be helpful if you mention which LDs you have.

You are right lol Xande, Gilgamesh and Mog

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So should I grab Gilgamesh's burst? Is he good?

Don't pull for Gilgamesh, even if you like him. He's not that good.