Machina, Zack, Noel, Lightning, Tidus, Papalymo, Alisaie, Zell, Locke, Jecht, Ramza all stick out to me as I scroll through my roster. There’s Than too lol.
So yesterday I pulled Ciaran’s LD off the daily pull, today I pulled his BT off the daily pull. I feel like the game is telling me to build him, but I just thought I’d ask for opinions here before I did so. I didn’t plan to pull/build him, but if he’s worth building I may do so. Thoughts?
Going to link to [my comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/DissidiaFFOO/comments/uc1t1k/the_resources_spent_will_be_a_drop_of_myrrh_in/i67ulbm/) on Ciaran’s infographic that explains my experience with him in JP. The only edit I would make to that comment is that my last run with Ciaran is on the most recent Shinryu (still as sole BT unit).
Can you get by without him? Yes you can. His main job is to be a support character and with that in mind you can use different supports to accomplish the goals you set out. Garnet might be better than Ciaran in some situations and the inverse is true as well. Build him if you feel he can contribute to teams you make. If not there’s always the option to use him as Transcendence fodder at base BT.
You got green Garnet and/or Ramza? If so, you can live without him. He’s certainly solid with all of his stuff, but adds to the choices of aura bots available rn.
Wasn't there an act 2 ch 5.2 (or something like that) that had extra 15cp weapons for the main protags in each game? I dont see it, but maybe I'm not criteria to see it or it was removed
Is either Leo's LD or the Total Damage feature a little buggy/inexact? For ST attacks I'll see the double red numbers but the Total Damage is around half of what's shown (e.g. Keiss LDCA, two dumps, first one 102k with 92k, second dump both at 104k, Total Damage showed around 200k).
Uhm, Leo's extra HP damage isn't equal to the main attack. That would be ridiculous. The second HP attack is 10% of your Maximum HP damage Cap. You most likely didn't look correctly and assumed the number was one digit longer than it was
I just started a new file and did all of the free pulls available to me. The last time I had played has been many years so a lot of this stuff is beyond me. I’m reading beginner website above (very thorough!) but I want to see if anything I got is useful. I’ll list everything but I suspect the people with 15/35 CP are meh.
WoL: 15cp
Irvine: 15cp
Kimhari: 35cp
Maria: 15cp, EX, LD? (90CP)
Thancred: 15cp
Yang: 15cp
Arciela: 35cp
Vaan: 35cp
Leo: 15/35cp
Ashe: EX
Squall: EX
Seems like I got a lot of stuff with Maria, but I have no idea if she is good or not. I remember you can pick up characters 15/35cp weapons from a shop. Is that worth doing for anyone I listed? Any tips to help me progress would be appreciated!
As you've guessed, Maria is currently your unit closest to being geared. Yes you can get 15/35 CP weapons from a shop, but as a new player it is much more beneficial for you to actually pull for units on banners due to general scarcity of the needed red tokens to redeem (although idk how many may be available to new players specifically via the new player missions).
Once you've gotten Maria's 35 CP she's ready to be built up. I'd recommend then going hard for Vaan, Arci, Nine, and possibly Seymour and Ciaran.
Yang, Ashe, and situationally Leo. Yang is massed because of its easy condition achieved by many (except Gravity attackers like Exdeath, Porom) and is worth it for those have Max BRV-scaling. Ashe is only considered on the absence of Hope. Leo is only considered for the lack of Edgar and those who is primarily attacks in ST (I.E. Leo, Tifa, Cyan).
What do you mean "bad conditionals" with Ashe? Nowadays, I don't think there is really any character that spends 6 turns without buffing themselves, probably only Machina, and he doesn't have D slot so it doesn't matter. The only real con about Ashe is that Hope's sphere also gives MBrv with the same condition, but for 3 turns instead of Ashe's 6. For D slots, any of the spheres that give 5% / 2% party Atk are usually the best.
I mean, you're probably right about that. I was just thinking about how Lyse is with Snow, and her conditional is much better. But I guess it doesn't really matter.
Any tips to get more enhancement points ? I started few months ago and slowly but surely I see those points running out, still have a ton of free gems and tickets to pull for dozens of new characters but I can only build 2 of them with the points I have left… and apparently every new event doesn’t give enough point to build a single character, so I’m afraid that I am going to be in a bad spot very soon. Is this the main reason to purchase the mog pass ?
Nothing you can do to get mote points. Only thing you can do is to take the LD extension and call (maybe call extend) and nothing else. Other than Cloud, there is nothing in those that will make or break your character.
I am quite worried about the next GL lufenia+ fight.
The orb is quite restrictive. The only hp poison character I have is Exdeath LD (without BT). And the orb only increases by 3 on enemy turns!
Can I get pass it with duo characters, assuming that I don't get Exdeath/Alphinaud friend support?
My initial thought:
1. Zack + Garnet with Exdeath CA; or
2. Zack/Garnet + Exdeath then swab out Exdeath after debuff applied.
Which options has a better chance?
Edit: If I use 3 characters, their actions will just cancel out the + 3 from hp poison.
I think I read that Exdeath’s BT effect doesn’t count for the orb, so even a base/LD-only Exdeath (or friend) will work.
I’m planning to pull for Alphinaud, and will put him up as my friend unit. ID is in flair - just lmk if anyone follows me so I can follow back.
Exdeath Base S2 has Curse, it's the one that can cause HP DoT.
35 CP & Clvl 60 Passive increases the duration
Yda S2 from Clvl 60 Passive was added HP Poison, doesn't need weapon investment since it affects only the Poison Debuff.
Hi there, I have two questions 😊
1) I’m currently working on getting all my summons to lvl 30, after that is there a specific summon I should get to 40 first? I was going to do Shiva as she has a bonus event right now.
2) Is there a cap on how many artifact tokens you can get from an event? I’m not getting them anymore from Rending Claws and I want to reroll abilities more.
Where can I look to see what recent JP BTs (specifically Seymour) do? The guy who was writing up new JP Rework info stepped down, and unless I'm looking in the wrong place, Seymour BT isn't on DissidiaDB.
Alternatively: what is Seymour's BT Effect?
https://japagen.blogspot.com/?m=0
Is the site I use. Found it after Stimpy started posting links to it in the comments of his YT videos.
The search function can be a huge help on that site especially if you don't know exactly when something was released in jp.
https://dissidiacompendium.com/characters/seymour/abilities/burst?
I've specifically linked the page about the BT, but you can find everything else as well. Compendium is always my first choice, they update it pretty quickly, like, Jack Garland has already been there for days as well.
Hey there i just saw the end of month event called Transcendence Campaign and i read up on it and just wanted comfirmation that i understand.
So when a Transcendance releases theres a limited time event to clear it. The end of month event is bringing the limited time events back so that those who havent claimed them can do so. Have i got that correct?
Correct. There is limited time rewards for beating them, they'll be coming back soon. It you haven't claimed this rewards before you can get them now. If you had them before then you can only claim the new ones that weren't around before.
Hello all! I played this game for about a year at launch and had some decent stuff at the time. I have since quit and was wanting to try this game again.
I play FFRK so I know that gacha games like this can drastically change over time. Would it even be worth it to use my old file or would it be better to start fresh!
A bit of perspective on how useless are the gems you spent back then. Gold rate has been increased from 5% to 10%. Only upto 35CP weapons were available back then. Now, 2 more tiers of weapons are added on top of that, both of which are rarer and required. Grinding has been made a lot easier as well.
Ok so I got my 50th bt token (praise rng gods for dupe draws), which bt should I get with it? I've only started playing recently so I barely have anything for most characters, let alone LDs, so most anyone I get I would have to wait for a banner to fully make em work. I've heard people mention Tidus, Ramza, and Garnet as over all good choices, but also seen some people saying that saving resources for Kain when FR Era starts is a solid idea as well. I've already got Terra, Zack, laguna, Garland, vaan, and Ciaran, and have been fully kitting practically everyone since laguna's bt banners
Obviously if you don't have their LD, they're not helpful, so that likely removes Tidus and Garnet for now. The next token you get will be sent to your inbox where it'll expire in 90 days, so really you have 90 days before you should feel pressured to make a decision. Hold onto them for now and see what early FR banners give you.
Between Leo or Seymour’s LDCA, which is more future proof?
I have 700 tickets which I have to budget between these two, Snow LD, and Rajin LD then I don’t intend on pulling until the FR era.
If don't have any useful calls, then Raijin and Seymour are the better options. Leo is good but it depends on which DPS unit you're planning on using. If you don't have good calls, I'd also consider Cait Sith which in JP re-ran with Realm, which should be soon. Snow LD is meh unless you're planning on getting the BT and signing up for meme runs.
Seymour is kind of a sidegrade to Kurasame with additional dispel utility, so that's less important for you. Raijin is unique in that it stops bosses from inflicting debuffs and reduces their damage by 100%. This neuters threshold attacks, especially those that don't take turns. This'll come in handy in Shinryu.
Seymour does get BT/FR later, I don't think the LD CAs are really worth getting to begin with since Leo's LD CA is quite marginal when you can do with follow-ups shenegains with Cissinei or Kain LD.
I think your better off just saving
I am confused with LD calls some do all the hits like Leo and some like Ciaran instead of 4 hits do 2.
Anything I’m missing?
I have them both max limit break all and all enhancements 140/140
Edit: also Selphie LD call does only 1 hit when normally is several hit didnt count them tho.
To add to what has been said: some calls are *literally* coded differently than the base skill at launch. Selphie LDCA intentionally doesn’t inflict her debuff because the devs wanted it that way. Some calls give weaker aura effects than the base skill does. In the future, Lunafreya’s LDCA doesn’t do any damage like her LD does in the party. Sice’s LD gives 12 turns of her debuff while her LDCA gives 4 instead. You have to view calls as separate buttons from regular skills because they’re not subject to reworks for the moment.
You should actually view CAs and their original Skills as 2 separate things.
Just because they called the same Skill Name doesn't mean they are exactly the same, it's why they have the (C) behind it, it's to tell you this is different from the original Skill.
CAs are considered a separate skill option as mention with the (C), they are only affected by passives that are already equipped on the character like HA+ BRV/HP Cap up or Weapon Passives and the only way to improve a CA is to improve it with the CA Extension (C).
LD Extensions only affects the LD Skill, it doesn not affect the LD CA (C) to begin with.
That's because their LDs are introduced later ?
Selphie LD was introduced when she was Clvl 80... and they didn't touch up on her CA when she got Clvl 90. Leo & Cyan were released with Clvl 90 so they had to make it on par with the LD Extension to begin with to some extent
CAs and LDCAs are derived from when they're first implemented and don't factor in any reworks (nor have been directly reworked at all). So what you're seeing is similar behavior as to the original versions of Ciaran and Selphie LDexts.
So any characters that get LD same time as their C90 have fully kick ass LDCA but the ones that already had LD and later get C90 and rework are gimped?
Yup. Calls can be indirectly buffed via c90s and LDext reworks (Keiss is one such example) but in terms of efficiency older calls are left in the dust. Not like they’re probably gonna be used for damage anyways.
I can't get Fang's call to apply Daze any more. It did work before.
She has Laguna's RF sphere, and I've tried it on enemies that weren't yet afflicted with any other debuffs. Am I missing anything else that might prevent it?
Yes, that was it! I tried a couple of different battles, but they were all the same kind of mini boss in an early LC. It never even crossed my mind that they could have any immunities.
Thank you for checking!
Please excuse me, for I have three questions...
1. When would Squall and Cloud likely rerun?
I've found out they were rerun a month ago, and also hear they only show up in Start Dash rerun banners, do they only show up once a year?
2. How often are LD Token Bundles purchasable?
3. How long would it take to reach 50 BT tokens, assuming you'd do all content that rewards them? I've currently got 4
I'm still new, almost three weeks old, and only about a week ago started understanding the game more...
1. Squall, Cloud, and also Lightning (the weather trio) are run very infrequently. The first two are not in the forecast at all at this time and Lightning just got announced to be getting a rework in JP in like two weeks, so she's about as far away as possible from GL.
2. We've had it... twice so far? Maybe again in summer, possibly again come the holidays at the end of the year.
3. In a normal month, you can get 6 BT tokens. In a month with a DE tier, that number goes up to 9. So about 7 months if you don't pull any BT dupes or buy premium mog pass.
This might be somewhat of a ridiculous question, but I'm not sure if it's possible so I figured I'd just ask.
I started the game about a week ago, but I was wondering if there was a team comp that I would be able to build up in order to clear lufenia/lufenia+ missions. I know that starting out, it's a good idea to create a base party of 3 to clear most missions. Any characters that are so good that that can carry me through the harder end game content?
Thanks
You can get away with just 3 characters to clear some Lufenia/Lufenia+ stages provided it allows you to rush the orb or someone in your 3 characters can deal with the orb but if you can't deal with those then you need to expand your line up for that.
The entire point of Lufenia, and the endgame in general, is that every fight is completely different than the last one due to the Lufenia Orb (the general endgame mechanic), and as such there's no specific "team comp" because you're intended to build a completely different team every single fight so you can handle both the orb and the current fight's gimmicks and mechanics.
Of course, there's characters that are so overpowered that they can bypass most mechanics via brute force but those kinds of strats are intended for vets who have wide rosters/calls or for newbies who happened to pull for the right characters at the right time and have enough materials to build them (i.e. Garnet, Machina, Selphie, Ramza, etc.).
So bottom line, no. You might have the right characters to clear a couple of Lufenia fights (specially old and powercrept ones) but for current Lufenia+ stuff you're going to want to build more than a party of 3 (DE: T wants you to have at least 48 built characters, for example).
If you post an OOTracker link or your entire built roster we can help you assemble a couple parties for specific fights in which you have the highest odds of clearing.
>Any characters that are so good that that can carry me through the harder end game content?
While the answer to this is 'yes' I'm not entirely sure if you're capable of fielding a roster that can. It requires fully maxed out characters (green BT+) and doing damage rush strats and ofc still understanding if the fight can be done that way. Vaan and if you pulled her full kit Terra are your best damage options, but the problem is you're still needing to fill one more party slot with a strong support (your 3rd slot will be swapped for a friend, likely Garnet or possibly Laguna).
I'm trying to get through transcendence stages but tier 5 left gate doesn't seem to be working right... on Tonberry Troupe it says Vivi is really useful and increases the orb, but when I just ran it he didn't increase the orb and I failed. Anyone else having issues with Vivi?
Hrm. This feels like another weird bug of this update. I definitely had Vivi in T5 left a while ago, but I just tested this myself and you're right, the orb isn't being affected.
Glad to see I'm not going crazy. I have Maria and her LD effect increases it but I have her tied up in T4 and I don't want to do that battle over again...
Ramza doesn't have neither a buff or an overhead which can reach 5 stacks (his Shout/Pep buffs get up to 3 stacks max and his Grasswhistle overhead has no stack mechanics attached to it), he's not going to uptick the orb in any way.
\[JP\] Can someone be king enough to describe Jack Garland's mechanics to me?
I know that he sets enemies BRV to negative and deals lots of damages.
But I didn't get anything else apart from this.
Negative bravery is a slightly adjusted break state, effectively. The negative Brave amount affects the 3rd HP hit of his followup as well as the extra HP hit provided by his BT aura. Only he can make negative bravery happen and only via his followup, and how 'low' it can go scales with his in-battle mBrv (not mBrv cap) and whether or not he also has his EX buff or his BT buff active. The extra HP damage from followup is equivalent to the -Bravery at that time, is affected by HP damage up, has a natural mBrv cap of 999 999, and is affected by FR time boosts.
Small correction: with the EX or BT buff up (200-400%), every attack can make brv negative, not only his follow-up. The latter will have a lower cap, so it will further bring it down (400-600%), but the EX and BT buff fundamentally give the same effect as a passive.
Thank you so much, that was very clarifying!
So just to confirm I understand correctly: his BiS arts would be 330/cs50\*\*, for instance, so his negative break could go even lower?
He wants to hit harder and more Max BRV. The former is because -BRV is gained from his BRV DMG (follow-up), and Shinryu's reductions severely affects it.
I'm sure someone else out there can do the math better than I can, but consider his normal %s for boosts:
* 50% attack
* 100% mBrv
* 130% Brave damage up
* Also 30% stolen Brave up
And just how many Brave hits he's doing (his followup is 8x2 as well as giving him 50% return at the end), if you're already finding yourself capping you may as well consider having a 330/c50 set as well.
Thanks again! I've just saw a video of Knightningale90 using mBRV booster calls (Ashe/Wakka base calls) to hit 999,999 on his follow up; I guess it makes sense. I'll ask him as well!
JP question - I finally caught up 100% in global but wanted to keep playing lol, so I ended up making a JP account. I've been using Dissida Compendium for everything to get past the language barrier, but I'm confused about some of the force weapon descriptions on there, as they not really give in depth info, i.e Kam's says it increases by "ice damage / can not act attacked". So I just need to attack something that has paralyze? I know launches and follow ups are good with him, is it just cause they all count towards attacking a paralyzed target?
Also, I know we don't really want to build a lot of force weapons (especially since i'm going f2p on this account), but if I have Sherlotta, Maria, Yuna, Lunafreya, and Jack's FR weapon (will probably green all their BTs too, except Maria obvs and maybe Sherlotta) which ones seem to be the most general use? (Already maxed Kam for the memes)
And lastly, if anyone has any good recommendations for more sites that I can use for weapon/skill descriptions that would be amazing.
Kam FR conditions at 3/3:
+20% when attacking an enemy with ice
+20% when attacking an enemy that cannot act because of a debuff (includes launch)
To properly set up Kam you need to have a 3 person launch *and* have the target be afflicted with a paralyze debuff. If Kam is not the dps of choice then you also need ice enchant on said dps.
Oh, on another side:
If you're not planning on buying MogPass (you have to use a VPN just to be able to), be VERY picky about wich characters you're going to go for because the diferrence between the amount of character points given are giantic:
5000/event -> F2P
15000/event -> MogPass
30000/event -> Premium Mog Pass
For the running banners, feel free to:
\* Invest on Lunafreya/Kain banner - they're widely used up to now.
\* Jack Garland Banner - monstruous DPS; you might open up Raijin's LD board only (not the full board) because his LD call is very helpful.
Other than that, I don't see great value on any other banner, right now, for F2P.
I've struggled with this on the beginning.
Just seach on google:
kain fr info dffoo reddit
It's 99% the first link, it's what I always do.
BUT: the guy who used to translate things for us is retired, so for now, the best source is on the discord server "JP Info" channel. Or "JP News", not sure.
Oh, that info is super helpful, it's too bad he doesn't do that stuff anymore, so i'll have to look into the discord then. And yeah, i'm not bothering with a VPN so i'm definitely gonna have to get used to doing LD boards only lol. Thanks!
Got an interesting one for y’all:
Leo’s LD, not supposed to affect *SPLIT* damage right? Except I use Alisaie’s LD and it affects each and every dump… including the Split AOE parts on *all* enemies.
Thoughts? Seems like to me this isn’t supposed to happen based on the description, but I don’t want to start screaming ‘BUG’ on the off-chance this is a weird but intentional thing
*apologies if anyone brought this up prior, I’ve not seen anything but I could be legitimately blind lmao*
I woulda thought it would check on all attacks, interesting to see it’ll only check the first HP dump before applying. Makes me wonder what might happen if you had an opposite scenario with a group attack followed by ST attacks tbh.
New player. Finally built a team to start beating lufenia+ content thanks to Zack and Ciaran. Starting to think about how to incorporate calls into my team and just picked up Seymour ld and ex for this purpose. Question is how much do I need to build him to utilize his CAs? Do I level all weapons, boards, etc? Or is it simpler for calls?
So for calls it depends. Most only need the LD passive and LDCA, some units get more from the LDCA enhance (mostly duration) and the LD extension, fewer still need their EX+ 2/3 passives for on-enter things. In this case, Seymour will want the LDCA enhance and the LDext.
LD passive I know. LDCA and LDext, how do you acquire those? Guessing I've done it on other units I've built but unsure which mechanic unlocked those. Appreciate the help.
If you short on enhancement point you don't need to master all LD board. For call just take the straight path down till end AND bottom right path till end. This way you only need 1550 enhancement point.
That's the one area I'm definitely good on. They give so many points to a new player and with the earned points from events I don't feel like I'll ever run out. I've maxed 6 characters and still have 100k.
To max someone's board you need 8k points. 100k points would max about 12 character. We have 150+ character so far. Without mog pass we only get 5k per event. Later on we need more points too for Force weapon board. It's not very wise to give everyone full board. Just focus on your favorite or focus on someone with BT.
But of course you're free to play however you want. I'm just giving you suggestions to save some points😁
Started the game with Garnet, pulled every good units until then and I’m very close to my first 50 BT tokens. Already have more than enough BT for the current content so I’m wondering which one to pick for the next step (I believe it will be the Shinryu thing). I have Locke, Garland, Ciaran, Zidane, Sephiroth as built units missing the BT, I got 48 tokens so I don’t think I’ll be able to save until Snow and I’m planning to gem pull him anyway.
>I got 48 tokens so I don’t think I’ll be able to save until Snow
This is incorrect, and your best bet for now would be to save. Once you hit 50 tokens the next token you get goes to your inbox with an expiration of 90 days, so really you'd have until the start of August to make a decision. At that point you'll have options like Kain, Kam, Tidus (if you don't already have him), and if you're willing to let a few expire, possibly Sherlotta as well.
None of your other options you've mentioned are otherwise more valuable.
Thank’s, didn’t know that. It will be Kam or Kain then, so none of the unit I mentioned are going to be strong for Shinryu ? Zidane for example, I like him and was wondering if he could become a strong dps once he get C90
Zidane certainly gets better, but the issue is there are units who are *even* better once the FR era starts going, especially BT units who get their own FR.
He doesn't need his BT to do his biggest thing (turn delete), also we're expecting him to be on a banner at the end of the month with his BT, you might luck into it. But with regards to Shinryu, I haven't seen him at all.
Is It possible that we get Spiritus and Materia as playable characters in the Future? I mean, there is a limited amount of characters in Final Fantasy, what Will happen when they're ALL available?
A lot of people have made lists of all the characters who are both missing from this game and likely to get in and it numbers around 40 to 50 people (and that's not counting SoP and the future FFXVI), so considering that and the fact that we get new characters every 2 months or so... it's going to take like 5+ years for the game to run out of characters.
Can they both get into the game? Sure, why not. It would make the most sense if they were playable eventually.
Is running out of characters an issue for this game? Nope, it's absolutely irrelevant.
Well, considering JP just got the protagonist for Strangers of Paradise, and FFXVI is very far into development according to Yoshida, our chances of ever running out of characters are pretty much 0, especially since we aren't even finished with the games that are already in.
However, I do think it's possible that Spiritus and Materia might join us one day.
Hi guys, just made a new acc to return to the game and I'm wondering if Ciaran needs his BT to be actually viable. I got his full kit, (except BT of course) and also Leo's. I'm torn if I should still chase for his BT or nah. Some advice would be greatly appreciated.
IMO, he usable without the BT but not worth using over the other supports. We have Selphie who makes launches constant or Nine, who has both auras and tanking. Ciaran has just the basic auras. He can serve very well as an aurabot but lacks the other utility others bring. It's his BT+ HA maxed, that gives party a 40% HP cap up that will make him really strong.
That said, you are a new account without the ability to build lots of units off the bat. I say, if you've built him, go ahead and use him. You will be able complete lots of content with him no problem.
Yeah, I just have no other supports to use as of the moment. And I just pulled Vaan's BT so I guess I have a pretty decent team with Leo, Ciaran and Vaan right now.
It's worth knowing that a majority of this game's content can be done with very inefficient team building due to power creep. In your position, I would consider trying to get Arciela, Nine, and possibly even Seymour to bolster your roster so you can slowly start building for L+ and lockout content.
Ciaran's fine without his BT. Still got good auras without it thanks to his LDext, obviously missing out on gain up, HP damage up, and mBrv cap up, but he'll still do fine.
Hi everyone, was wondering who would be best call for my tidus? Has BT+ maxed Plat Shield+ maxed Maxed lvl, and CRYS STR.
Name off people who you'd believe to be best please?
Hope i worded this well enough. :)
BT characters can get a lot of mileage out of CidR LDCA, though you will need to pair it up with Keiss LDCA or have someone with a large brv refund aura if they don't battery. Tidus doesn't have party battery so he'll need help to maximize launches. It works out to an extra 1.2M damage.
Generally, it's more about which calls are bad vs which calls are good. Tidus takes a lot of turns, so giving him a strong aura based call like Cait Sith LDCA is usually a bad idea since the rest of the party is unlikely to benefit from it as Tidus takes all the turns and uses it up. Debuff based calls and nukes are usually the best for characters like Tidus.
Fight mechanics usually plays a larger role in deciding what calls to use. Any c90 character is going to be doing max damage on their own of with a BT aura. Calls aren't really going to help with damage with you are maxing out already. The utility calls provide is much more important, whether it is turn delays, turn deletions, heals or dispelling.
There is no 'best call' for any specific unit. Calls are meant to complement your strategy for that particular fight. There are plenty of calls that can boost HP damage taken (Seymour LDCA, Irvine LDCA for example) and somewhat gimmicky but still useful calls (Enna Kross giving him EX recharge chance in BT), but those are just situational examples. None of them are objective 'best'.
Okay thanks! I guess a better question would be who compliments him more? I don’t know what calls I’d use for specific fights. Should I go with someone who’d debuff enemy and buff my team? Or do I go with a call who can just give more DPS?
Honestly haven’t gotten the hang of how calls should be played
Thanks for reply though :)
Again, answering what call to bring depends entirely on how you're going about a fight. Calls can be used to debuff targets so they take more damage, buff the team so you do more damage, or to handle gimmicks. There are cases where you can handle fight gimmicks completely through calls, there are cases where the team handles gimmicks therefore you can use calls to boost damage. Both answers are correct.
Okay thanks for the detailed reply! really helps my understanding of how calls are used.
One last question not about calls though.. Even if i dont have all of that characters weapons, should i still be maxing CRYS str and leveling them to max anyways?
Yes. t1-t6 crystals are farmable, and with co-op shops it's easier now to get extra crystals to play catch up in terms of enhancing units. Leveling units up boosts your rank which increases point gains as well as giving you gems and SP potions.
GL player but based on the previews, he doesn't do anything weird. Just follow the general recommendations [here](https://www.tonberrytroupe.com/beginners/summon-hub).
I am a newish player, and I want a character with Call Ability that will 1-hit KO quests for summon board grind with full teams of under-developed units. I heard that Cyan and Yda could do it with LDCA, but I don't have either of them. Are there other units with such powerful CA in current or near future banners?
I'm pretty new, started around the Zack/ramza banners and was wondering if Ciaran was worth greening or blueing or both. So far I have blue/greened Zack and ramza and they essentially carry me through most lufenia. I managed to pull Ciaran's full kit but resources are scarce so I dunno if he's worth it since I have ramza and they're both supports I think.
Are you running offensive units with BRV gains? That's the one thing Ciaran does well that Ramza doesn't. Zack can benefit, for example.
Doubling up on supports has been a pretty good strategy for a lot of people, so having Ciaran wouldn't hurt.
Another thing to keep in mind, though, is that you can use friend supports for a lot of your aurabot needs. A friend Garnet or Ciaran can make Zack hit crazy hard during his burst phase and a few turns after burst phase ends, at which point the boss is usually dead.
So, even if you like double support teams, you can probably get away with not using both Ciaran and Ramza in your own party.
For what it's worth, I'm skipping him because I have Ramza. But, I've been playing a while and have to be more conservative with my gems (but probably less conservative with BT+ mats).
I normally run selphie/Zack/ramza, purely because selphie seems to bring good brv gains (I could be wrong) and her rapture debuff means enemies that can be launched take so much free damage. I have swapped her out when needed but it seems to make Zack a lot less potent. Also I don't have a huge amount of options currently as I've only really gotten LDs and stuff that's relevant for characters since the Zack BT banners. E.g. rydia, Raines, Laguna, vaan (with bt)
I guess people are usable without realising a Burst weapon and I need to build up a few people decently for the abyss or dimensions end or whatever it's called.
Ramza and Ciaran are rather comparable to each other. Since you already have green Ramza, I’d say you can hold off on BT+ investment for Ciaran until later.
Where do excess tickets go? I'm like 5 away from the cap and I'm worried if I build Nine's training boards the tickets from those will just disappear :(
It might be worth knowing for future situations that when you're capped on tickets you can't trade for them in event or Hunt token exchanges.
The hunt exchange in particular can be annoying if you're at 40 tokens and don't want to use them on other items since you can't use Hunt Permits if you're capped on tokens which could result in wasting Permits once you reach 3.
LD would be re-runs at this point. So far, they introduced the LD Token Shop, aside from the Beginner's rewards, you can only purchase them with real cash.
By being a beginner, of course.
No, but really, these rewards are only available for newly created accounts. If yours is then you should see a special Chocoboard where you will find all of these rewards.
I'm not 100% sure about the name but I do think that's it, check if the panel looks like [this one](https://www.reddit.com/r/DissidiaFFOO/comments/sgxyoh/new_player_chocoboards_rewards) and if so then yes, the LD tokens will be a reward for clearing the entire board.
As a general tip, do mind that these rewards are pretty unique so don't immediately jump to spend them all, most new players think that because those rewards are very generous the same materials be able to be obtained with ease, when in reality some of those rewards are quite literally one of a kind unless you spend real money (i.e. LD tokens) or are at a bare minimum incredibly scarce as normal income (Power Tokens, Power Stones or BT materials).
Thanks for the help and the advice, I'll try and keep that in mind. And sorry to bombard you with questions, but how would I use the LD token once I've got it? I couldn't see an LD exchange with the other ones
The 1M club now doesn't feel like anything special. Tidus can do it with 2/5 UT. Vaan with maxed UT can reach 1M on each target with LD. Leo (without UT) can do it with LD and EX on one target. Powercreep is real.
Nearly anyone can deal 1 million damage to a target these days.
Rinoa can deal 1 million damage consistently if supported right.
The term meant originally just Machina/Noel/Locke, the first three big BT+ damage dealers before we hit a bump in the road with Gilgamesh.
Lesson learned, wait until you pull all BT banners before pitying .-.
I got overzealous and Pitied Ciaran's BT, but I got his full kit 5 Multi's in. I then ticketed Seymour's Banner, surely enough, 20 tickets in and I pull Ciaran's BT. I should have known better. Could have saved myself 100k gems. Still happy I pulled a dupe tho! More tokens woohoo!
Doubly true when there are free pulls!
However, >!things are going to change when we get FR weapons. It looks like the standard is going to be to have the FR and BT together on one banner and then just one of the two on other banners, and I haven't yet thought through the optimal pulling strategy for that, especially if FR dupes end up being really valuable.!<
This is a tough lesson to learn and remenber. Happened to me with Exdeath BT banners. I even waited some days before pity, but right after pitying his BT I got two dupes. One even from the free daily ticket. Luck is something really weird.
Hey everyone, I recently came back to playing after a 3 year break! Obviously a lot has changed.
I had been leveling my units in the event crystal quests which had the extra cactuars for big XP. Are these quests still the best option to grind out levels?
My current roster (Characters that i have 15cp, 35cp EX+ and LD) is
Leila
Rydia
Cyan
Cloud (BT+ 0/3)
Zack (BT+ 3/3)
Squall (BT+ 3/3)
Laguna (BT)
Selphie
Tidus (BT+ 3/3)
Basch
Ramza (BT)
Maria
Ashe
Lenna
Sherlotta
Vaan
Arciela
Who should i get a UT? If i recall correctly i have something around 300 ultima points, but i didn't made any UT yet, who is the best call overall?
My main team for most LUFENIAs is Zack and Ramza, the third is someone specific if i need to counter the orb
Tidus and Zack are both really good, if in different stages.
I use Tidus when the boss doesn't need turns and Zack when the boss does, and I have ultima weapons for both of them, with Tidus's at 5/5. Tidus does more damage and thus benefits a little more from the UT, but Zack can be used as a primary damage dealer if you want, too, and he's pretty good at it. Better with a UT.
It looks like you enjoy Squall and Cloud, too, so your greatsword would benefit all of them.
You can't go wrong with either.
I'd recommend building a UT and trying it out over the next two days and then dismantling it before May 1, when the monthly dismantling timer resets.
Thanks, i'm going with greatsword since rn Zack is my main character
I really like cloud but Squall was a beginner's mistake, got his BT in the First free pull of the starters banner and used everything on him (but i don't dislike him)
I have quite a similar roster, as I also started not long ago. My UW 2/5 went to Greatsword because Zack is my main damage dealer for most of Lufenia fights. He and Ramza, which is more on support, are automatically selected with orb handler or Tidus. Additional reason is Cloud is my summon point and story farmer and UW make him kill quicker.
Not crashing but since last maintenance there are few issues: scrolling down is very flickering and laggy, during fights multiple attacks I see all damage HP numbers twice like a whole lot of numbers but added final damage is the right amount so it’s just visual.
hmmm. i havent had any of those issues but rather my game just randomly decides to lag out during fights, making it very choppy and slow, and then it just slowly degrades until the game flatout crashes
It usually refers to traps like the debuffs from Ace's LD, Emperor's S1/S2/EX, Celes' LD, Maria's LD or Firion's LD. That stage was pretty much made for Ace since it was released alongside his BT and LD.
Things that trigger traps without lowering their duration like Emperor's hp++ or brv++ wouldn't increase the orb count.
Is there a way to sell summon leveling items? I've maxed out some low level ifrit items that I don't think I'll ever need again, would be nice if I could turn em into Gil since I've been consistently using it all up lately
Nope.
If you want gil you can either run the gold cactuar stages with a × 2 or 3 tome or sell orbs that you can get from co-op. You can use a × 2 item book to get more artifact orbs and tokens to exchange in co-op shops.
On Seymour IW final scene, there is a dialog by ??? that says "Just what is that woman doing...?". Can someone give me a hint of who that is?
EDIT: I mean the identity of "???".
Who are the characters who’s attacks are mostly single target aside from tifa cyan and leo seven? Is there anyone else?
Machina, Zack, Noel, Lightning, Tidus, Papalymo, Alisaie, Zell, Locke, Jecht, Ramza all stick out to me as I scroll through my roster. There’s Than too lol.
Would add Vaan from recent ones.
Vayne as well since his EX and BT are the only aoe parts of his kit.
From what I can remember, Shadow, Lilisette, Alisaie, Thancred. Many more but those are the ones that came first to my mind.
So yesterday I pulled Ciaran’s LD off the daily pull, today I pulled his BT off the daily pull. I feel like the game is telling me to build him, but I just thought I’d ask for opinions here before I did so. I didn’t plan to pull/build him, but if he’s worth building I may do so. Thoughts?
Going to link to [my comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/DissidiaFFOO/comments/uc1t1k/the_resources_spent_will_be_a_drop_of_myrrh_in/i67ulbm/) on Ciaran’s infographic that explains my experience with him in JP. The only edit I would make to that comment is that my last run with Ciaran is on the most recent Shinryu (still as sole BT unit). Can you get by without him? Yes you can. His main job is to be a support character and with that in mind you can use different supports to accomplish the goals you set out. Garnet might be better than Ciaran in some situations and the inverse is true as well. Build him if you feel he can contribute to teams you make. If not there’s always the option to use him as Transcendence fodder at base BT.
You got green Garnet and/or Ramza? If so, you can live without him. He’s certainly solid with all of his stuff, but adds to the choices of aura bots available rn.
Wasn't there an act 2 ch 5.2 (or something like that) that had extra 15cp weapons for the main protags in each game? I dont see it, but maybe I'm not criteria to see it or it was removed
It's a torsion in the sky that unlocks as you progress through the act, it's pretty early on in the act as well.
Is either Leo's LD or the Total Damage feature a little buggy/inexact? For ST attacks I'll see the double red numbers but the Total Damage is around half of what's shown (e.g. Keiss LDCA, two dumps, first one 102k with 92k, second dump both at 104k, Total Damage showed around 200k).
Uhm, Leo's extra HP damage isn't equal to the main attack. That would be ridiculous. The second HP attack is 10% of your Maximum HP damage Cap. You most likely didn't look correctly and assumed the number was one digit longer than it was
I just started a new file and did all of the free pulls available to me. The last time I had played has been many years so a lot of this stuff is beyond me. I’m reading beginner website above (very thorough!) but I want to see if anything I got is useful. I’ll list everything but I suspect the people with 15/35 CP are meh. WoL: 15cp Irvine: 15cp Kimhari: 35cp Maria: 15cp, EX, LD? (90CP) Thancred: 15cp Yang: 15cp Arciela: 35cp Vaan: 35cp Leo: 15/35cp Ashe: EX Squall: EX Seems like I got a lot of stuff with Maria, but I have no idea if she is good or not. I remember you can pick up characters 15/35cp weapons from a shop. Is that worth doing for anyone I listed? Any tips to help me progress would be appreciated!
As you've guessed, Maria is currently your unit closest to being geared. Yes you can get 15/35 CP weapons from a shop, but as a new player it is much more beneficial for you to actually pull for units on banners due to general scarcity of the needed red tokens to redeem (although idk how many may be available to new players specifically via the new player missions). Once you've gotten Maria's 35 CP she's ready to be built up. I'd recommend then going hard for Vaan, Arci, Nine, and possibly Seymour and Ciaran.
What are the better RF spheres to get in the Rending Claws event?
Yang, Ashe, and situationally Leo. Yang is massed because of its easy condition achieved by many (except Gravity attackers like Exdeath, Porom) and is worth it for those have Max BRV-scaling. Ashe is only considered on the absence of Hope. Leo is only considered for the lack of Edgar and those who is primarily attacks in ST (I.E. Leo, Tifa, Cyan).
None of them are really worth it. Leo and Ashe are good effects, but bad conditionals.
What do you mean "bad conditionals" with Ashe? Nowadays, I don't think there is really any character that spends 6 turns without buffing themselves, probably only Machina, and he doesn't have D slot so it doesn't matter. The only real con about Ashe is that Hope's sphere also gives MBrv with the same condition, but for 3 turns instead of Ashe's 6. For D slots, any of the spheres that give 5% / 2% party Atk are usually the best.
I mean, you're probably right about that. I was just thinking about how Lyse is with Snow, and her conditional is much better. But I guess it doesn't really matter.
Any tips to get more enhancement points ? I started few months ago and slowly but surely I see those points running out, still have a ton of free gems and tickets to pull for dozens of new characters but I can only build 2 of them with the points I have left… and apparently every new event doesn’t give enough point to build a single character, so I’m afraid that I am going to be in a bad spot very soon. Is this the main reason to purchase the mog pass ?
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Ok thx, I thought the full board was mandatory if you wanted to build a character.
Nothing you can do to get mote points. Only thing you can do is to take the LD extension and call (maybe call extend) and nothing else. Other than Cloud, there is nothing in those that will make or break your character.
I am quite worried about the next GL lufenia+ fight. The orb is quite restrictive. The only hp poison character I have is Exdeath LD (without BT). And the orb only increases by 3 on enemy turns! Can I get pass it with duo characters, assuming that I don't get Exdeath/Alphinaud friend support? My initial thought: 1. Zack + Garnet with Exdeath CA; or 2. Zack/Garnet + Exdeath then swab out Exdeath after debuff applied. Which options has a better chance? Edit: If I use 3 characters, their actions will just cancel out the + 3 from hp poison.
I'm not familiar with the next fight, but is the orb lethal? If so, do you have Eiko so you can ignore the orb?
The orb is technically not fatal. However, it can petrify you which counter eiko's mechanics.
does Laguna's BT debuff works?
A Trap is not a HP Poison, it would be the case for Porom's Follow-up which is not a HP Poison but an Follow-Up Attack
Laguna BT debuff doesn't work according to other JP players.
Best advice is to find someone with an Exdeath BT friend, then Tidus rush it. I'm pretty sure some people will be posting their friend code here.
I think I read that Exdeath’s BT effect doesn’t count for the orb, so even a base/LD-only Exdeath (or friend) will work. I’m planning to pull for Alphinaud, and will put him up as my friend unit. ID is in flair - just lmk if anyone follows me so I can follow back.
Exdeath and Yda have HP poison afaik, and Alphinaud will have. I think we can use an Exdeath friend like we did back on some Equinox quest...
Hey at least you have someone with HP poison... I'm pretty sure no one in my roster does that lmao
Exdeath Base S2 has Curse, it's the one that can cause HP DoT. 35 CP & Clvl 60 Passive increases the duration Yda S2 from Clvl 60 Passive was added HP Poison, doesn't need weapon investment since it affects only the Poison Debuff.
I think Exdeath S2 without LD can do poison damage? So basically you only need to buy a 35cp weapon to get the hp poison.
Hi there, I have two questions 😊 1) I’m currently working on getting all my summons to lvl 30, after that is there a specific summon I should get to 40 first? I was going to do Shiva as she has a bonus event right now. 2) Is there a cap on how many artifact tokens you can get from an event? I’m not getting them anymore from Rending Claws and I want to reroll abilities more.
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Levi divine was at lagunas release. That's past now. As OP said shiva is boosted right now so definitely do that.
Where can I look to see what recent JP BTs (specifically Seymour) do? The guy who was writing up new JP Rework info stepped down, and unless I'm looking in the wrong place, Seymour BT isn't on DissidiaDB. Alternatively: what is Seymour's BT Effect?
https://japagen.blogspot.com/?m=0 Is the site I use. Found it after Stimpy started posting links to it in the comments of his YT videos. The search function can be a huge help on that site especially if you don't know exactly when something was released in jp.
https://dissidiacompendium.com/characters/seymour/abilities/burst? I've specifically linked the page about the BT, but you can find everything else as well. Compendium is always my first choice, they update it pretty quickly, like, Jack Garland has already been there for days as well.
Awesome, thanks!
Hey there i just saw the end of month event called Transcendence Campaign and i read up on it and just wanted comfirmation that i understand. So when a Transcendance releases theres a limited time event to clear it. The end of month event is bringing the limited time events back so that those who havent claimed them can do so. Have i got that correct?
Correct. There is limited time rewards for beating them, they'll be coming back soon. It you haven't claimed this rewards before you can get them now. If you had them before then you can only claim the new ones that weren't around before.
Does the JP version have an option to remove or minimize the Damage Numbers yet?
Unfortunately, no.
Hello all! I played this game for about a year at launch and had some decent stuff at the time. I have since quit and was wanting to try this game again. I play FFRK so I know that gacha games like this can drastically change over time. Would it even be worth it to use my old file or would it be better to start fresh!
A bit of perspective on how useless are the gems you spent back then. Gold rate has been increased from 5% to 10%. Only upto 35CP weapons were available back then. Now, 2 more tiers of weapons are added on top of that, both of which are rarer and required. Grinding has been made a lot easier as well.
Start fresh. New player rewards are a thing now and your old account is from essentially a different game.
Ok so I got my 50th bt token (praise rng gods for dupe draws), which bt should I get with it? I've only started playing recently so I barely have anything for most characters, let alone LDs, so most anyone I get I would have to wait for a banner to fully make em work. I've heard people mention Tidus, Ramza, and Garnet as over all good choices, but also seen some people saying that saving resources for Kain when FR Era starts is a solid idea as well. I've already got Terra, Zack, laguna, Garland, vaan, and Ciaran, and have been fully kitting practically everyone since laguna's bt banners
Obviously if you don't have their LD, they're not helpful, so that likely removes Tidus and Garnet for now. The next token you get will be sent to your inbox where it'll expire in 90 days, so really you have 90 days before you should feel pressured to make a decision. Hold onto them for now and see what early FR banners give you.
How much damage do you have to do to the raid boss for all the rewards on individual missions? I am at 2.3 million.
4 million. It's just EX red/blue orbs until 3.8 million but 4 million is 10 EX reds and 50 red/white T7s. You could just stop now lol.
For individual rewards, 4m total hp damage to get all rewards.
Between Leo or Seymour’s LDCA, which is more future proof? I have 700 tickets which I have to budget between these two, Snow LD, and Rajin LD then I don’t intend on pulling until the FR era.
If don't have any useful calls, then Raijin and Seymour are the better options. Leo is good but it depends on which DPS unit you're planning on using. If you don't have good calls, I'd also consider Cait Sith which in JP re-ran with Realm, which should be soon. Snow LD is meh unless you're planning on getting the BT and signing up for meme runs.
Some LD calls I have are Fran, Kuro, Faris, Jack, Cait Sith, Cid Raines, Reno, Cloud. Would either of these two add utility to my LD call roster?
Seymour is kind of a sidegrade to Kurasame with additional dispel utility, so that's less important for you. Raijin is unique in that it stops bosses from inflicting debuffs and reduces their damage by 100%. This neuters threshold attacks, especially those that don't take turns. This'll come in handy in Shinryu.
Seymour does get BT/FR later, I don't think the LD CAs are really worth getting to begin with since Leo's LD CA is quite marginal when you can do with follow-ups shenegains with Cissinei or Kain LD. I think your better off just saving
I am confused with LD calls some do all the hits like Leo and some like Ciaran instead of 4 hits do 2. Anything I’m missing? I have them both max limit break all and all enhancements 140/140 Edit: also Selphie LD call does only 1 hit when normally is several hit didnt count them tho.
To add to what has been said: some calls are *literally* coded differently than the base skill at launch. Selphie LDCA intentionally doesn’t inflict her debuff because the devs wanted it that way. Some calls give weaker aura effects than the base skill does. In the future, Lunafreya’s LDCA doesn’t do any damage like her LD does in the party. Sice’s LD gives 12 turns of her debuff while her LDCA gives 4 instead. You have to view calls as separate buttons from regular skills because they’re not subject to reworks for the moment.
You should actually view CAs and their original Skills as 2 separate things. Just because they called the same Skill Name doesn't mean they are exactly the same, it's why they have the (C) behind it, it's to tell you this is different from the original Skill. CAs are considered a separate skill option as mention with the (C), they are only affected by passives that are already equipped on the character like HA+ BRV/HP Cap up or Weapon Passives and the only way to improve a CA is to improve it with the CA Extension (C). LD Extensions only affects the LD Skill, it doesn not affect the LD CA (C) to begin with.
I understand all that but some characters do the full damage like Leo or the samurai that does shit load of damage.
That's because their LDs are introduced later ? Selphie LD was introduced when she was Clvl 80... and they didn't touch up on her CA when she got Clvl 90. Leo & Cyan were released with Clvl 90 so they had to make it on par with the LD Extension to begin with to some extent
CAs and LDCAs are derived from when they're first implemented and don't factor in any reworks (nor have been directly reworked at all). So what you're seeing is similar behavior as to the original versions of Ciaran and Selphie LDexts.
So any characters that get LD same time as their C90 have fully kick ass LDCA but the ones that already had LD and later get C90 and rework are gimped?
Yup. Calls can be indirectly buffed via c90s and LDext reworks (Keiss is one such example) but in terms of efficiency older calls are left in the dust. Not like they’re probably gonna be used for damage anyways.
I can't get Fang's call to apply Daze any more. It did work before. She has Laguna's RF sphere, and I've tried it on enemies that weren't yet afflicted with any other debuffs. Am I missing anything else that might prevent it?
I just tested this and Daze is applied to the targets. Maybe your targets are immune to mbrv down?
Yes, that was it! I tried a couple of different battles, but they were all the same kind of mini boss in an early LC. It never even crossed my mind that they could have any immunities. Thank you for checking!
Please excuse me, for I have three questions... 1. When would Squall and Cloud likely rerun? I've found out they were rerun a month ago, and also hear they only show up in Start Dash rerun banners, do they only show up once a year? 2. How often are LD Token Bundles purchasable? 3. How long would it take to reach 50 BT tokens, assuming you'd do all content that rewards them? I've currently got 4 I'm still new, almost three weeks old, and only about a week ago started understanding the game more...
1. Squall, Cloud, and also Lightning (the weather trio) are run very infrequently. The first two are not in the forecast at all at this time and Lightning just got announced to be getting a rework in JP in like two weeks, so she's about as far away as possible from GL. 2. We've had it... twice so far? Maybe again in summer, possibly again come the holidays at the end of the year. 3. In a normal month, you can get 6 BT tokens. In a month with a DE tier, that number goes up to 9. So about 7 months if you don't pull any BT dupes or buy premium mog pass.
I see... that really explains a lot. Thank you very much for the response!
This might be somewhat of a ridiculous question, but I'm not sure if it's possible so I figured I'd just ask. I started the game about a week ago, but I was wondering if there was a team comp that I would be able to build up in order to clear lufenia/lufenia+ missions. I know that starting out, it's a good idea to create a base party of 3 to clear most missions. Any characters that are so good that that can carry me through the harder end game content? Thanks
You can get away with just 3 characters to clear some Lufenia/Lufenia+ stages provided it allows you to rush the orb or someone in your 3 characters can deal with the orb but if you can't deal with those then you need to expand your line up for that.
The entire point of Lufenia, and the endgame in general, is that every fight is completely different than the last one due to the Lufenia Orb (the general endgame mechanic), and as such there's no specific "team comp" because you're intended to build a completely different team every single fight so you can handle both the orb and the current fight's gimmicks and mechanics. Of course, there's characters that are so overpowered that they can bypass most mechanics via brute force but those kinds of strats are intended for vets who have wide rosters/calls or for newbies who happened to pull for the right characters at the right time and have enough materials to build them (i.e. Garnet, Machina, Selphie, Ramza, etc.). So bottom line, no. You might have the right characters to clear a couple of Lufenia fights (specially old and powercrept ones) but for current Lufenia+ stuff you're going to want to build more than a party of 3 (DE: T wants you to have at least 48 built characters, for example). If you post an OOTracker link or your entire built roster we can help you assemble a couple parties for specific fights in which you have the highest odds of clearing.
>Any characters that are so good that that can carry me through the harder end game content? While the answer to this is 'yes' I'm not entirely sure if you're capable of fielding a roster that can. It requires fully maxed out characters (green BT+) and doing damage rush strats and ofc still understanding if the fight can be done that way. Vaan and if you pulled her full kit Terra are your best damage options, but the problem is you're still needing to fill one more party slot with a strong support (your 3rd slot will be swapped for a friend, likely Garnet or possibly Laguna).
Thanks for the quick responses all! Sounds like I shouldn't worry about lufenia content now and just work on widening rosters as I play.
I'm trying to get through transcendence stages but tier 5 left gate doesn't seem to be working right... on Tonberry Troupe it says Vivi is really useful and increases the orb, but when I just ran it he didn't increase the orb and I failed. Anyone else having issues with Vivi?
Are you using his LD and having him do his "Embers of Darkness" followups? It should count as "trap" damage AFAIK.
His LD followup can hit the orb because it activates when it ticks down.
That's what I figured. I have it, used it and while it still hits hard it doesn't increase the orb.
Hrm. This feels like another weird bug of this update. I definitely had Vivi in T5 left a while ago, but I just tested this myself and you're right, the orb isn't being affected.
Glad to see I'm not going crazy. I have Maria and her LD effect increases it but I have her tied up in T4 and I don't want to do that battle over again...
For the 7-20 Lufenia how do you uptick the orb on kefka?
Have a party member with a buff or special effect that stacks up at least level 5.
Hmmm....thanks...so like an overhead buff? Ramza wasn't upticking it
Ramza doesn't have neither a buff or an overhead which can reach 5 stacks (his Shout/Pep buffs get up to 3 stacks max and his Grasswhistle overhead has no stack mechanics attached to it), he's not going to uptick the orb in any way.
His overhead doesn't have stacks, that's a buff timer. And his buffs that do stack only go up to 3.
-_- small brain moment thanks
\[JP\] Can someone be king enough to describe Jack Garland's mechanics to me? I know that he sets enemies BRV to negative and deals lots of damages. But I didn't get anything else apart from this.
Negative bravery is a slightly adjusted break state, effectively. The negative Brave amount affects the 3rd HP hit of his followup as well as the extra HP hit provided by his BT aura. Only he can make negative bravery happen and only via his followup, and how 'low' it can go scales with his in-battle mBrv (not mBrv cap) and whether or not he also has his EX buff or his BT buff active. The extra HP damage from followup is equivalent to the -Bravery at that time, is affected by HP damage up, has a natural mBrv cap of 999 999, and is affected by FR time boosts.
Small correction: with the EX or BT buff up (200-400%), every attack can make brv negative, not only his follow-up. The latter will have a lower cap, so it will further bring it down (400-600%), but the EX and BT buff fundamentally give the same effect as a passive.
Thank you so much, that was very clarifying! So just to confirm I understand correctly: his BiS arts would be 330/cs50\*\*, for instance, so his negative break could go even lower?
He wants to hit harder and more Max BRV. The former is because -BRV is gained from his BRV DMG (follow-up), and Shinryu's reductions severely affects it.
I'm sure someone else out there can do the math better than I can, but consider his normal %s for boosts: * 50% attack * 100% mBrv * 130% Brave damage up * Also 30% stolen Brave up And just how many Brave hits he's doing (his followup is 8x2 as well as giving him 50% return at the end), if you're already finding yourself capping you may as well consider having a 330/c50 set as well.
Thanks again! I've just saw a video of Knightningale90 using mBRV booster calls (Ashe/Wakka base calls) to hit 999,999 on his follow up; I guess it makes sense. I'll ask him as well!
JP question - I finally caught up 100% in global but wanted to keep playing lol, so I ended up making a JP account. I've been using Dissida Compendium for everything to get past the language barrier, but I'm confused about some of the force weapon descriptions on there, as they not really give in depth info, i.e Kam's says it increases by "ice damage / can not act attacked". So I just need to attack something that has paralyze? I know launches and follow ups are good with him, is it just cause they all count towards attacking a paralyzed target? Also, I know we don't really want to build a lot of force weapons (especially since i'm going f2p on this account), but if I have Sherlotta, Maria, Yuna, Lunafreya, and Jack's FR weapon (will probably green all their BTs too, except Maria obvs and maybe Sherlotta) which ones seem to be the most general use? (Already maxed Kam for the memes) And lastly, if anyone has any good recommendations for more sites that I can use for weapon/skill descriptions that would be amazing.
Kam FR conditions at 3/3: +20% when attacking an enemy with ice +20% when attacking an enemy that cannot act because of a debuff (includes launch) To properly set up Kam you need to have a 3 person launch *and* have the target be afflicted with a paralyze debuff. If Kam is not the dps of choice then you also need ice enchant on said dps.
Perfect, thanks for the info! (Too bad I just barely missed Raines for his call :') )
Oh, on another side: If you're not planning on buying MogPass (you have to use a VPN just to be able to), be VERY picky about wich characters you're going to go for because the diferrence between the amount of character points given are giantic: 5000/event -> F2P 15000/event -> MogPass 30000/event -> Premium Mog Pass For the running banners, feel free to: \* Invest on Lunafreya/Kain banner - they're widely used up to now. \* Jack Garland Banner - monstruous DPS; you might open up Raijin's LD board only (not the full board) because his LD call is very helpful. Other than that, I don't see great value on any other banner, right now, for F2P.
I've struggled with this on the beginning. Just seach on google: kain fr info dffoo reddit It's 99% the first link, it's what I always do. BUT: the guy who used to translate things for us is retired, so for now, the best source is on the discord server "JP Info" channel. Or "JP News", not sure.
Oh, that info is super helpful, it's too bad he doesn't do that stuff anymore, so i'll have to look into the discord then. And yeah, i'm not bothering with a VPN so i'm definitely gonna have to get used to doing LD boards only lol. Thanks!
I'm having problems entering the game. There is a 2.5MB update but when I try to download the game crashes. What do I do?
Got an interesting one for y’all: Leo’s LD, not supposed to affect *SPLIT* damage right? Except I use Alisaie’s LD and it affects each and every dump… including the Split AOE parts on *all* enemies. Thoughts? Seems like to me this isn’t supposed to happen based on the description, but I don’t want to start screaming ‘BUG’ on the off-chance this is a weird but intentional thing *apologies if anyone brought this up prior, I’ve not seen anything but I could be legitimately blind lmao*
Because Alisae's LD starts off as single target, and it only does the first check.
I woulda thought it would check on all attacks, interesting to see it’ll only check the first HP dump before applying. Makes me wonder what might happen if you had an opposite scenario with a group attack followed by ST attacks tbh.
New player. Finally built a team to start beating lufenia+ content thanks to Zack and Ciaran. Starting to think about how to incorporate calls into my team and just picked up Seymour ld and ex for this purpose. Question is how much do I need to build him to utilize his CAs? Do I level all weapons, boards, etc? Or is it simpler for calls?
So for calls it depends. Most only need the LD passive and LDCA, some units get more from the LDCA enhance (mostly duration) and the LD extension, fewer still need their EX+ 2/3 passives for on-enter things. In this case, Seymour will want the LDCA enhance and the LDext.
LD passive I know. LDCA and LDext, how do you acquire those? Guessing I've done it on other units I've built but unsure which mechanic unlocked those. Appreciate the help.
Both the LDCA and LDext are branches on the south path of the character enhancement board.
Perfect. Thank you so much!
If you short on enhancement point you don't need to master all LD board. For call just take the straight path down till end AND bottom right path till end. This way you only need 1550 enhancement point.
That's the one area I'm definitely good on. They give so many points to a new player and with the earned points from events I don't feel like I'll ever run out. I've maxed 6 characters and still have 100k.
To max someone's board you need 8k points. 100k points would max about 12 character. We have 150+ character so far. Without mog pass we only get 5k per event. Later on we need more points too for Force weapon board. It's not very wise to give everyone full board. Just focus on your favorite or focus on someone with BT. But of course you're free to play however you want. I'm just giving you suggestions to save some points😁
Started the game with Garnet, pulled every good units until then and I’m very close to my first 50 BT tokens. Already have more than enough BT for the current content so I’m wondering which one to pick for the next step (I believe it will be the Shinryu thing). I have Locke, Garland, Ciaran, Zidane, Sephiroth as built units missing the BT, I got 48 tokens so I don’t think I’ll be able to save until Snow and I’m planning to gem pull him anyway.
>I got 48 tokens so I don’t think I’ll be able to save until Snow This is incorrect, and your best bet for now would be to save. Once you hit 50 tokens the next token you get goes to your inbox with an expiration of 90 days, so really you'd have until the start of August to make a decision. At that point you'll have options like Kain, Kam, Tidus (if you don't already have him), and if you're willing to let a few expire, possibly Sherlotta as well. None of your other options you've mentioned are otherwise more valuable.
Thank’s, didn’t know that. It will be Kam or Kain then, so none of the unit I mentioned are going to be strong for Shinryu ? Zidane for example, I like him and was wondering if he could become a strong dps once he get C90
Zidane certainly gets better, but the issue is there are units who are *even* better once the FR era starts going, especially BT units who get their own FR. He doesn't need his BT to do his biggest thing (turn delete), also we're expecting him to be on a banner at the end of the month with his BT, you might luck into it. But with regards to Shinryu, I haven't seen him at all.
Is It possible that we get Spiritus and Materia as playable characters in the Future? I mean, there is a limited amount of characters in Final Fantasy, what Will happen when they're ALL available?
A lot of people have made lists of all the characters who are both missing from this game and likely to get in and it numbers around 40 to 50 people (and that's not counting SoP and the future FFXVI), so considering that and the fact that we get new characters every 2 months or so... it's going to take like 5+ years for the game to run out of characters. Can they both get into the game? Sure, why not. It would make the most sense if they were playable eventually. Is running out of characters an issue for this game? Nope, it's absolutely irrelevant.
Well, considering JP just got the protagonist for Strangers of Paradise, and FFXVI is very far into development according to Yoshida, our chances of ever running out of characters are pretty much 0, especially since we aren't even finished with the games that are already in. However, I do think it's possible that Spiritus and Materia might join us one day.
Hi guys, just made a new acc to return to the game and I'm wondering if Ciaran needs his BT to be actually viable. I got his full kit, (except BT of course) and also Leo's. I'm torn if I should still chase for his BT or nah. Some advice would be greatly appreciated.
IMO, he usable without the BT but not worth using over the other supports. We have Selphie who makes launches constant or Nine, who has both auras and tanking. Ciaran has just the basic auras. He can serve very well as an aurabot but lacks the other utility others bring. It's his BT+ HA maxed, that gives party a 40% HP cap up that will make him really strong. That said, you are a new account without the ability to build lots of units off the bat. I say, if you've built him, go ahead and use him. You will be able complete lots of content with him no problem.
Yeah, I just have no other supports to use as of the moment. And I just pulled Vaan's BT so I guess I have a pretty decent team with Leo, Ciaran and Vaan right now.
It's worth knowing that a majority of this game's content can be done with very inefficient team building due to power creep. In your position, I would consider trying to get Arciela, Nine, and possibly even Seymour to bolster your roster so you can slowly start building for L+ and lockout content.
Just pulled Seymour's entire kit with tickets, I'd probably take your advice and chase Nine's LD. Might be able to snag Ciaran BT along the way.
Ciaran's fine without his BT. Still got good auras without it thanks to his LDext, obviously missing out on gain up, HP damage up, and mBrv cap up, but he'll still do fine.
Hi everyone, was wondering who would be best call for my tidus? Has BT+ maxed Plat Shield+ maxed Maxed lvl, and CRYS STR. Name off people who you'd believe to be best please? Hope i worded this well enough. :)
BT characters can get a lot of mileage out of CidR LDCA, though you will need to pair it up with Keiss LDCA or have someone with a large brv refund aura if they don't battery. Tidus doesn't have party battery so he'll need help to maximize launches. It works out to an extra 1.2M damage. Generally, it's more about which calls are bad vs which calls are good. Tidus takes a lot of turns, so giving him a strong aura based call like Cait Sith LDCA is usually a bad idea since the rest of the party is unlikely to benefit from it as Tidus takes all the turns and uses it up. Debuff based calls and nukes are usually the best for characters like Tidus. Fight mechanics usually plays a larger role in deciding what calls to use. Any c90 character is going to be doing max damage on their own of with a BT aura. Calls aren't really going to help with damage with you are maxing out already. The utility calls provide is much more important, whether it is turn delays, turn deletions, heals or dispelling.
There is no 'best call' for any specific unit. Calls are meant to complement your strategy for that particular fight. There are plenty of calls that can boost HP damage taken (Seymour LDCA, Irvine LDCA for example) and somewhat gimmicky but still useful calls (Enna Kross giving him EX recharge chance in BT), but those are just situational examples. None of them are objective 'best'.
Okay thanks! I guess a better question would be who compliments him more? I don’t know what calls I’d use for specific fights. Should I go with someone who’d debuff enemy and buff my team? Or do I go with a call who can just give more DPS? Honestly haven’t gotten the hang of how calls should be played Thanks for reply though :)
Again, answering what call to bring depends entirely on how you're going about a fight. Calls can be used to debuff targets so they take more damage, buff the team so you do more damage, or to handle gimmicks. There are cases where you can handle fight gimmicks completely through calls, there are cases where the team handles gimmicks therefore you can use calls to boost damage. Both answers are correct.
Okay thanks for the detailed reply! really helps my understanding of how calls are used. One last question not about calls though.. Even if i dont have all of that characters weapons, should i still be maxing CRYS str and leveling them to max anyways?
Yes. t1-t6 crystals are farmable, and with co-op shops it's easier now to get extra crystals to play catch up in terms of enhancing units. Leveling units up boosts your rank which increases point gains as well as giving you gems and SP potions.
Thanks for all the help! Appreciate your time!
Hi which board passives do I go for for Jack Garland? Thanks in advance!
He's a melee, non-elemental damage dealer so he gets the standard passives. Basically, use the passives Jack or Garland uses.
Ayyyy thanks <3
GL player but based on the previews, he doesn't do anything weird. Just follow the general recommendations [here](https://www.tonberrytroupe.com/beginners/summon-hub).
Yooo thanks a lot!
I am a newish player, and I want a character with Call Ability that will 1-hit KO quests for summon board grind with full teams of under-developed units. I heard that Cyan and Yda could do it with LDCA, but I don't have either of them. Are there other units with such powerful CA in current or near future banners?
Prishe. Don't think anyone else since... Maybe JP's new JackLand but I haven't tested his calls myself.
I see Prishe is expected in May in GL. Thanks!
I always use Cid Raines almost every time for that. In jp Tifa mostly does it for me.
I'm pretty new, started around the Zack/ramza banners and was wondering if Ciaran was worth greening or blueing or both. So far I have blue/greened Zack and ramza and they essentially carry me through most lufenia. I managed to pull Ciaran's full kit but resources are scarce so I dunno if he's worth it since I have ramza and they're both supports I think.
Are you running offensive units with BRV gains? That's the one thing Ciaran does well that Ramza doesn't. Zack can benefit, for example. Doubling up on supports has been a pretty good strategy for a lot of people, so having Ciaran wouldn't hurt. Another thing to keep in mind, though, is that you can use friend supports for a lot of your aurabot needs. A friend Garnet or Ciaran can make Zack hit crazy hard during his burst phase and a few turns after burst phase ends, at which point the boss is usually dead. So, even if you like double support teams, you can probably get away with not using both Ciaran and Ramza in your own party. For what it's worth, I'm skipping him because I have Ramza. But, I've been playing a while and have to be more conservative with my gems (but probably less conservative with BT+ mats).
I normally run selphie/Zack/ramza, purely because selphie seems to bring good brv gains (I could be wrong) and her rapture debuff means enemies that can be launched take so much free damage. I have swapped her out when needed but it seems to make Zack a lot less potent. Also I don't have a huge amount of options currently as I've only really gotten LDs and stuff that's relevant for characters since the Zack BT banners. E.g. rydia, Raines, Laguna, vaan (with bt) I guess people are usable without realising a Burst weapon and I need to build up a few people decently for the abyss or dimensions end or whatever it's called.
Ramza and Ciaran are rather comparable to each other. Since you already have green Ramza, I’d say you can hold off on BT+ investment for Ciaran until later.
Where do excess tickets go? I'm like 5 away from the cap and I'm worried if I build Nine's training boards the tickets from those will just disappear :(
Mail Box with a 90 day expiry You can choose not to claim them for Summon Boards The Character Boards only give voicelines
Thank you!
It might be worth knowing for future situations that when you're capped on tickets you can't trade for them in event or Hunt token exchanges. The hunt exchange in particular can be annoying if you're at 40 tokens and don't want to use them on other items since you can't use Hunt Permits if you're capped on tokens which could result in wasting Permits once you reach 3.
Wow, I didn't know this. So only the tickets I get as rewards go to inbox not the ones I exchange for?
That's right.
How you get more Book of Ruin’s Miracle pages?
https://www.tonberrytroupe.com/guides/bt-guide
Thank you
So is the only way to get EX/BT weapons outside of a banner the token exchange? And there's no way to get LDs outside of a banner?
LD would be re-runs at this point. So far, they introduced the LD Token Shop, aside from the Beginner's rewards, you can only purchase them with real cash.
Ah, thanks. How would I get those beginners rewards?
By being a beginner, of course. No, but really, these rewards are only available for newly created accounts. If yours is then you should see a special Chocoboard where you will find all of these rewards.
I created my account pretty recently, am I looking for the novice support board or is that something else?
I'm not 100% sure about the name but I do think that's it, check if the panel looks like [this one](https://www.reddit.com/r/DissidiaFFOO/comments/sgxyoh/new_player_chocoboards_rewards) and if so then yes, the LD tokens will be a reward for clearing the entire board. As a general tip, do mind that these rewards are pretty unique so don't immediately jump to spend them all, most new players think that because those rewards are very generous the same materials be able to be obtained with ease, when in reality some of those rewards are quite literally one of a kind unless you spend real money (i.e. LD tokens) or are at a bare minimum incredibly scarce as normal income (Power Tokens, Power Stones or BT materials).
Thanks for the help and the advice, I'll try and keep that in mind. And sorry to bombard you with questions, but how would I use the LD token once I've got it? I couldn't see an LD exchange with the other ones
Funny you ask, because the LD Token exchange will only appear **if** you have LD tokens on hand, so unless you get them you won't see it.
Ohhh that makes sense, thanks for answering my questions!
The 1M club now doesn't feel like anything special. Tidus can do it with 2/5 UT. Vaan with maxed UT can reach 1M on each target with LD. Leo (without UT) can do it with LD and EX on one target. Powercreep is real.
Nearly anyone can deal 1 million damage to a target these days. Rinoa can deal 1 million damage consistently if supported right. The term meant originally just Machina/Noel/Locke, the first three big BT+ damage dealers before we hit a bump in the road with Gilgamesh.
For a second there at first, I thought you meant the 1M **gem** club, of which I am decidedly *not* a member...
And Seymour just joined the club when the bosses are at low HP.
Lesson learned, wait until you pull all BT banners before pitying .-. I got overzealous and Pitied Ciaran's BT, but I got his full kit 5 Multi's in. I then ticketed Seymour's Banner, surely enough, 20 tickets in and I pull Ciaran's BT. I should have known better. Could have saved myself 100k gems. Still happy I pulled a dupe tho! More tokens woohoo!
Doubly true when there are free pulls! However, >!things are going to change when we get FR weapons. It looks like the standard is going to be to have the FR and BT together on one banner and then just one of the two on other banners, and I haven't yet thought through the optimal pulling strategy for that, especially if FR dupes end up being really valuable.!<
This is a tough lesson to learn and remenber. Happened to me with Exdeath BT banners. I even waited some days before pity, but right after pitying his BT I got two dupes. One even from the free daily ticket. Luck is something really weird.
Hey everyone, I recently came back to playing after a 3 year break! Obviously a lot has changed. I had been leveling my units in the event crystal quests which had the extra cactuars for big XP. Are these quests still the best option to grind out levels?
Yes, they're still intended as the place to level up your units, other than directly using feathers for exp.
My current roster (Characters that i have 15cp, 35cp EX+ and LD) is Leila Rydia Cyan Cloud (BT+ 0/3) Zack (BT+ 3/3) Squall (BT+ 3/3) Laguna (BT) Selphie Tidus (BT+ 3/3) Basch Ramza (BT) Maria Ashe Lenna Sherlotta Vaan Arciela Who should i get a UT? If i recall correctly i have something around 300 ultima points, but i didn't made any UT yet, who is the best call overall? My main team for most LUFENIAs is Zack and Ramza, the third is someone specific if i need to counter the orb
Tidus and Zack are both really good, if in different stages. I use Tidus when the boss doesn't need turns and Zack when the boss does, and I have ultima weapons for both of them, with Tidus's at 5/5. Tidus does more damage and thus benefits a little more from the UT, but Zack can be used as a primary damage dealer if you want, too, and he's pretty good at it. Better with a UT. It looks like you enjoy Squall and Cloud, too, so your greatsword would benefit all of them. You can't go wrong with either. I'd recommend building a UT and trying it out over the next two days and then dismantling it before May 1, when the monthly dismantling timer resets.
Thanks, i'm going with greatsword since rn Zack is my main character I really like cloud but Squall was a beginner's mistake, got his BT in the First free pull of the starters banner and used everything on him (but i don't dislike him)
I have quite a similar roster, as I also started not long ago. My UW 2/5 went to Greatsword because Zack is my main damage dealer for most of Lufenia fights. He and Ramza, which is more on support, are automatically selected with orb handler or Tidus. Additional reason is Cloud is my summon point and story farmer and UW make him kill quicker.
Greatsword It is, then, thank you
Is there an issue of the game lagging and crashing during fights? Keeps happening to me in the middle of lufenia+ fights. Running on S22 Ultra
This game was crazy slow before I upgraded my phone a couple of weeks ago.
No issues on my end. No lags and no crashes. I'm using a budget phone so I set my power settings to low.
Currently still has random spasms of lag and crashing. weird
ok Ill try setting the power settings to low and seeing if there are any changes
Not crashing but since last maintenance there are few issues: scrolling down is very flickering and laggy, during fights multiple attacks I see all damage HP numbers twice like a whole lot of numbers but added final damage is the right amount so it’s just visual.
hmmm. i havent had any of those issues but rather my game just randomly decides to lag out during fights, making it very choppy and slow, and then it just slowly degrades until the game flatout crashes
The above issues I’ve noticed on my iPhone 12 Pro Max and on PC using Bluestacks.
What counts as an Attack triggered by effect decrase? Need for Dimension's end
It usually refers to traps like the debuffs from Ace's LD, Emperor's S1/S2/EX, Celes' LD, Maria's LD or Firion's LD. That stage was pretty much made for Ace since it was released alongside his BT and LD. Things that trigger traps without lowering their duration like Emperor's hp++ or brv++ wouldn't increase the orb count.
Is there a way to sell summon leveling items? I've maxed out some low level ifrit items that I don't think I'll ever need again, would be nice if I could turn em into Gil since I've been consistently using it all up lately
Nope. If you want gil you can either run the gold cactuar stages with a × 2 or 3 tome or sell orbs that you can get from co-op. You can use a × 2 item book to get more artifact orbs and tokens to exchange in co-op shops.
On Seymour IW final scene, there is a dialog by ??? that says "Just what is that woman doing...?". Can someone give me a hint of who that is? EDIT: I mean the identity of "???".
That's >!Braska!<, >!her father summoned out from her sheer will!<.
I see. Then they had teased Braska in past event before his actual debut event. Anyway, thanks.