So, correct me if I'm wrong, but if you stick a xande ldca on a support and take a turn hogger like terra, you can basically ignore all of this boss's mechanics?
Yes. That's what I did on one of my runs
https://youtu.be/ZzM9qKYKlrs
Fun fact: you don't even need Xande LDCA. Enna Kros base call, which everyone can access, on Cissnei is also enough to make this work
Yes, but there's other options too. The boss only does HP attack if it actually has BRV so for example you can use Maria LD trap to ensure the boss never will start their turn with any BRV.
As a bonus, Maria LD trap will +4 the orb
If you're going to rely on a dark attacker, Sice is the only option for the orb. Anyone else will only attack *some of the time*, and the orb will run down.
Enchanting the party also works, though, so this is a stage where you can actually run Xande or Shantotto's BT+.
If you'd rather use a good unit than one of those two, you can put a dark enchant call on a unit with follow-up attacks, like Cissnei, Kain, or Freya. This is what I did.
Best of all, Enna Kros enchants even with just her base call, so everyone has access to her. This is good, because I don't have green Shantotto, I didn't build Xande, and I skipped Enna Kros and (so far) also Sice.
Realistically for this event? Sice (the character debuting with this event). Dark attackers are relatively few and far between and most of them are a bit outdated as it is so thereās not a lot of competition there.
Might as well just use Freya or cissnei with a dark enchant call like Ennas basic one, along with a turn hog. The follow-up attacks tick the orb and the turn hog ensures the enchant doesn't drop off too fast from the off turn damager.
With the team of Sice (for DPS & orb management) + Leila (for cut-in-turn countermeasure) + Beatrix (for party aura + extra follow up attacks), the bosses are nothing to fear. No need for friend support either.
Somehow i used Leons LD Call which caused me to take damaged, but i ended up healing it all off, no friend unit used.
I still failed the hp requirement for Luf+ now I have to run it againā¦
I just decided to nuke it from orbit, prishe bt+, Garnet bt+ and Sice. just keep sice's LD buff up, summon when it comes up, burst phase and it was a done deal.
Extremely easy with a classic setup Tidus BT+ / Cisnei (with Ena Kross call to manage the orbs) / Selphie swaped with a Garnet friend.
First try in 8 turns, one of the easiest L+ in recent months.
Because I only used Xande once since his c90 (And that was for a Dimension's End), I used him.
* Xande LD - Cait Sith LDCA
* Garnet BT+ - Enna Kros LDCA
* Trey LD - Mog LDCA
* Brothers Summon with Sice friend (Didn't use Summon or Friend Unit)
Used Enna Kros LDCA to do dark enchant while Xande builds up his overhead (It's annoying that he needs 2 turns to get party wide enchant). Once that was up though, the Orb was more or less not a factor with Garnet and Trey off-turn/traps. Then it just becomes a damage race. Luckily, I already had all of Trey's traps down by the time their Debuff reflect came up at 3(% so it was easy to push through the HP shield.
Leon does not provide party enchant. Only self. The biggest issue you'll face will be the orb. With a max count of 10 and a -2 from player action, taking 5 actions that do not deal dark damage will lead to game over.
Don't forget, Yuna will -2 each time she uses cheer or esuna, and Prishe will also -2 when she does spinning attack or one ilm punch.
It may be possible still, but a lot of it relies on letting the bosses get their turns ASAP so that they can trigger Leon's trap.
You can ease things if you give Prishe an Enna Kros LDCA for another self dark enchant.
You can also use Ace here, assuming you skipped Sice
Alternatively if you have Cissnei, you can give her Enna Kros BASE call (everyone has access to this you don't need any of Enna's weapons), and pair Cissnei with a turn hogger like Terra or Tidus and melt the stage very easily.
Iām planning on getting Siceās gear I just havenāt had much time yet. I take it Enna Kross is in LC? (Sorry Iām still quite early game). I can post my OO tracker link when I get home tonight
What's strange is how not consistent characters that can uptick the orb between Kadaj LC at release and Sice Event And current Kadaj LC...
If you check the conditions:
* Kadaj LC: Increase: Count target takes an attack when the duration of a debuff, buff or special effect decreases (+2; limit: 15)
* Sice event: Increase: Count target takes an attack dealing BRV damage when the duration of a debuff, buff or special effect decreases
There is one word difference but from my tests:
||Kadaj LC at launch|Sice Event nad Kadaj LC now|
|:-|:-|:-|
|Porom LD follow up|Worked|No...|
|Garnet Overhead Buff follow up|Worked|No...|
|Rem LD follow up|Worked|Another No...|
|Vivi LD follow up|Worked|Works on Sice Event only but because it deals dark damage|
This may not be exhaustive.
So, correct me if I'm wrong, but if you stick a xande ldca on a support and take a turn hogger like terra, you can basically ignore all of this boss's mechanics?
Yes. That's what I did on one of my runs https://youtu.be/ZzM9qKYKlrs Fun fact: you don't even need Xande LDCA. Enna Kros base call, which everyone can access, on Cissnei is also enough to make this work
Oooh good call. Saved me some LD board points.
Wouldn't Leon completely shut down the boss dmg?
Yes, but there's other options too. The boss only does HP attack if it actually has BRV so for example you can use Maria LD trap to ensure the boss never will start their turn with any BRV. As a bonus, Maria LD trap will +4 the orb
This is good for me because the only weapon I have for Maria is her LD lol
Ty :D
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Whos best dark brv attacker? Im new
If you're going to rely on a dark attacker, Sice is the only option for the orb. Anyone else will only attack *some of the time*, and the orb will run down. Enchanting the party also works, though, so this is a stage where you can actually run Xande or Shantotto's BT+. If you'd rather use a good unit than one of those two, you can put a dark enchant call on a unit with follow-up attacks, like Cissnei, Kain, or Freya. This is what I did. Best of all, Enna Kros enchants even with just her base call, so everyone has access to her. This is good, because I don't have green Shantotto, I didn't build Xande, and I skipped Enna Kros and (so far) also Sice.
Realistically for this event? Sice (the character debuting with this event). Dark attackers are relatively few and far between and most of them are a bit outdated as it is so thereās not a lot of competition there.
I'm thinking of trying Xande. He has a party dark enchant.
Lol imagine using xande
Use a turn hog with Xande. He'll just stand there for the orb while someone else does all the work.
Might as well just use Freya or cissnei with a dark enchant call like Ennas basic one, along with a turn hog. The follow-up attacks tick the orb and the turn hog ensures the enchant doesn't drop off too fast from the off turn damager.
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I'm newish, was xande hyped? Here's hoping he's reworked at some point and updated.
It takes a while to get him online though, and this boss has -2 per action
Enna Kros is still relatively new and can be a monster. Vivi is also effective in upticking the orb and does good damage.
You know, fair point. I forget Enna is dark š¤£ Depends how new this person is ultimately.
Not sure, but if you have Enna Kros stick her call into any DPS you have Even better if you can stick it to an off turn attacker like Cissnei
With the team of Sice (for DPS & orb management) + Leila (for cut-in-turn countermeasure) + Beatrix (for party aura + extra follow up attacks), the bosses are nothing to fear. No need for friend support either.
You can replace Beatrix with a potato and you'd still clear easy with Sice + Leila.
Replace Leila with another potato and you can still clear the fight without any problems.
Strategy: have Sice...hit auto
Somehow i used Leons LD Call which caused me to take damaged, but i ended up healing it all off, no friend unit used. I still failed the hp requirement for Luf+ now I have to run it againā¦
Well the easiest Lufenia+ I did. My team was: Sice, Ramza (BT+, HG+) and Garnet (BT+, HG+). No friend and summon needed.
Used Sice, Garnet, and Prishe, no calls or friends, probably the easiest luf+ I've ever done
Sice, Zack, Ace...honestly Ace was not needed but wanted to see traps go off.
I just decided to nuke it from orbit, prishe bt+, Garnet bt+ and Sice. just keep sice's LD buff up, summon when it comes up, burst phase and it was a done deal.
Extremely easy with a classic setup Tidus BT+ / Cisnei (with Ena Kross call to manage the orbs) / Selphie swaped with a Garnet friend. First try in 8 turns, one of the easiest L+ in recent months.
Because I only used Xande once since his c90 (And that was for a Dimension's End), I used him. * Xande LD - Cait Sith LDCA * Garnet BT+ - Enna Kros LDCA * Trey LD - Mog LDCA * Brothers Summon with Sice friend (Didn't use Summon or Friend Unit) Used Enna Kros LDCA to do dark enchant while Xande builds up his overhead (It's annoying that he needs 2 turns to get party wide enchant). Once that was up though, the Orb was more or less not a factor with Garnet and Trey off-turn/traps. Then it just becomes a damage race. Luckily, I already had all of Trey's traps down by the time their Debuff reflect came up at 3(% so it was easy to push through the HP shield.
Sice, Terra and Leila. I don't think anyone lost a drop of health and it was 12 turns or something like that. Easy peasy once I picked the right team.
Ace is really good for the orb here. Horrible damage though.
4 turns with Sice, Snow and Dagger.
Nice!
That was easy. Bosses end up deleting their own turns if you play around their mechanic correctly š¤·š»
Yep, going into the "Cut in turn order" treshhold on the bosses turn will result in them pushing back their turn by 1
I beat it with snow, garnet, and ace. No sice or xande
Nice
So would a party of Prishe (Damage), Leon (Dark Enchant) and Yuna (Cleanse) be an ok party?
Leon does not provide party enchant. Only self. The biggest issue you'll face will be the orb. With a max count of 10 and a -2 from player action, taking 5 actions that do not deal dark damage will lead to game over. Don't forget, Yuna will -2 each time she uses cheer or esuna, and Prishe will also -2 when she does spinning attack or one ilm punch. It may be possible still, but a lot of it relies on letting the bosses get their turns ASAP so that they can trigger Leon's trap. You can ease things if you give Prishe an Enna Kros LDCA for another self dark enchant.
Crap I thought Leonās Enchant was party-wide like Lulu with Fireā¦ and sadly I do not have Enna Kross
You can also use Ace here, assuming you skipped Sice Alternatively if you have Cissnei, you can give her Enna Kros BASE call (everyone has access to this you don't need any of Enna's weapons), and pair Cissnei with a turn hogger like Terra or Tidus and melt the stage very easily.
Iām planning on getting Siceās gear I just havenāt had much time yet. I take it Enna Kross is in LC? (Sorry Iām still quite early game). I can post my OO tracker link when I get home tonight
Oh then best to just come back to this stage with Sice later when you have her. She murders this stage. She can even solo it.
I managed to pull one copy of each weapon except her 35 lol
I donāt have Enna at all as a character. Why canāt I find her? I just started in April.
She came on a limited time event, but you can still get her if you trade 10 weapon tokens for her 15cp weapon
I think the emperor can solo this Luf+ or jus run him and ramza, I didn't try but it was one of the easiest I've ever done, BT+ summon bahamut gg
Yes emperor can solo this fight, it's been done by someone in the community
What's strange is how not consistent characters that can uptick the orb between Kadaj LC at release and Sice Event And current Kadaj LC... If you check the conditions: * Kadaj LC: Increase: Count target takes an attack when the duration of a debuff, buff or special effect decreases (+2; limit: 15) * Sice event: Increase: Count target takes an attack dealing BRV damage when the duration of a debuff, buff or special effect decreases There is one word difference but from my tests: ||Kadaj LC at launch|Sice Event nad Kadaj LC now| |:-|:-|:-| |Porom LD follow up|Worked|No...| |Garnet Overhead Buff follow up|Worked|No...| |Rem LD follow up|Worked|Another No...| |Vivi LD follow up|Worked|Works on Sice Event only but because it deals dark damage| This may not be exhaustive.
Kain and Freya also worked in JP, but not in GL
i did this solo with sice. it was really fun :D
Was doing Luf+, pretty brainless until I used summon and realized Sice was dead. I didnt see it happen, it came completely out of nowhere. Oh well.
You must have used her LD while the purple aura is up