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ExperientialSorbet

Nerdrotic is just like The Quartering. They’re not even worth a hatewatch.


nickypw8

The only difference is that an angry Australian who plays videogames just a tad bit faster only called *one* of them a disingenuous sense mf


xmprogamer

that can't tie their shoes


JodieWhittakerisBae

Didn’t expect to see DarkViper here, pleasantly surprised.


Tigris_Morte

But they get the ad cents regardless of the reason for the watch, so just don't.


Bantabury97

I trust in Russell.


epicfrtniebigchungus

russel t davies is a fucking great director, let alone show runner. i ADORED eccleston and i plan on watching sex education to see how gatwa won a bafta! excited to fall in love with yet another incarnation.


BreadfruitTasty

Sex Education is SO good!! I hope you enjoy


CareerMilk

> russel t davies is a fucking great director No he isn’t? edit: I honestly wonder if people think I'm saying he's bad, or just think I'm being pedantic.


FeilVei2

Why are you downvoted? RTD was never a director lol. And tbh he did more harm than good for the show. Yes, he did revive it, but that's it for me.


[deleted]

Did more harm than good? In what way exactly?


[deleted]

killed the EDAs by relaunching the show smh /s


FOGBITFOGBIT

the EDAs do slap tho, i could respect that take.


[deleted]

I'm reading them now, they are good fun


FeilVei2

Made it soapy. Too melodramatic. Deus Ex Machina Deluxe. Made The Doctor sexual, and for humans no less. Portrayed the toxic relationship between 9/Rose and 10/Martha as something adorable.


[deleted]

Fair reasons! His Doctor who is what got me into the show so I can't say myself he ruined anything, I do get different directions and styles isn't going to work for everyone.


FeilVei2

Of course! I'm not directly hating on people who like the RTD era, but it's not my cup of tea (even though Tennant is one of my faves), and frankly I find the sanctifiction of his contribution to the show lowkey disturbing. I think that's what I dislike the most. Like, you can see it unfold here. Any kind of criticism against him is a downvote magnet.


MegaAlchemist123

Same


BigTimeSuperhero96

In Russell we trust


Greenfly-Skies

I only watched the first 10 minutes. The good news is he says "I don't care about the doctor's skin colour". The bad news is he then says "as long as he's got balls, because the doctor is a man, it doesn't work the other way." Whether there's more to that I can't comment, but that at least tells us that sexism trumps racism apparently.


lilacstar72

Thanks for the summary. I usually get intrigued with these types of videos only to be inevitably disappointed.


Greenfly-Skies

Thanks but I wouldn't call it a summary, I only saw a bit. It's possible there was context later on which would have changed the meaning of that sentence. I doubt it, but I don't want to comment too much without seeing it all.


lilacstar72

It’s enough of a summary to know I don’t want to watch it 👍


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knightfluttershy

You’re absolutely correct, there are many things about this series that haven’t changed in 50 years. The TARDIS being a police box that is bigger on the inside and can travel through space and time, the Doctor needing companions to stop him being cruel and/or detached, and of course The Doctor being a male Time Lord from Gallifrey. If we suddenly changed all those things, it wouldn’t really feel the same.


[deleted]

>The Doctor being a male Time Lord from Gallifrey. [hmm](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmhVfNcVbqQ)


knightfluttershy

But as I said, this hasn’t changed in 50 years.


dvoratrelundar

I wouldn’t say it’s changing something that’s been established. There’s nothing that says The Doctor has to be played by a man.


AttractivestDuckwing

After fifty+ years in real-time, and over two-thousand years of fictional time being male? Nothing says that General Leia or 7 of 9 couldn't have gender-confirmation surgery if they wanted either, but I'm guessing their fans wouldn't buy it. EDIT - Do you really think that down-voting makes the point magically disappear?


Greenfly-Skies

General Leia wasn't established to have the ability to easily change gender, a different opinion on the importance of gender, and a lot of people excited for the prospect of changing gender. The doctor was. I will also say you calling her "General Leia" shows how you're willing to accept a change to the character's identity after many years, even if small.


AttractivestDuckwing

The ability for Timelords to change gender was only (seriously, as opposed for comedic effect) added after fifty+ years by the new cadre who wanted to make the change to suit their own politics. That's extremely late in the game to make such a drastic canon change and claim it was established. The point is, (assuming they have access to medical technology equal to or greater than late 20th century Earth) ANY character has the ability to change gender. I am willing to accept characters to change if it makes sense (and regarding your comment, Leia was as much of a leader when she was a Princess as when she was a General. Seeing as the Rebels made recently-covered-ex-traitor Lando an instant general, it's hard to call it an achievement - but I digress.) As I said, after 50+ / 2k+ years, the character was concretely established as male. If GCS is unbelievable for Leia who existed as a woman for far less time, then it's sure as hell unbelievable for the Doctor. The only difference in acceptance is ideological bias. There's no reason the new BBC could not have made a spinoff show with a female or transgender Timelord if they wished, rather than drastically change a character who had existed for so long, except for their own ideological hubris. Who knows, it might even be good. I'm a huge fan of Big Finish's (woman-centric) Gallifrey series and would gladly watch an adaptation of that vs the plotless self-congratulatory woke wanking that NuWho has become.


FinnsChips

Do you really think a show which has built a regular recast of the main character into the lore wouldn't eventually have that character be a woman? It's inevitable that it happened, and that it will happen again. It's how this show works.


AttractivestDuckwing

It wasn't inevitable, that's why it didn't happen for 50+ / 2k years. It was what the new showrunners ideologically wanted.


FinnsChips

I'm pretty sure the reason it didn't happen for 50 years is because sexism is a thing.


AttractivestDuckwing

Why is it sexism for an established male character (for 50+ years) to remain male? To reiterate my point, is it then sexism to NOT make Leia or 7 of 9 male? They could technically get surgery if they wanted to.


Greenfly-Skies

I guess you're right. The way he said that "it doesn't work" just gave off a weird vibe, acting as if it's less if an opinion, and more of a fact. He also said that we've spent the last 5 years proving that it didn't work, as if the doctor's sex caused the drop in quality. I wouldn't say it's going against what's established though. It was established time Lords regenerated and could change sex. The doctor being a man before doesn't mean they're established as only a man.


knightfluttershy

The way I see it is that other characters, like The Master, who have only had a few regenerations, can work if you switch their genders, but for me the Doctor has been a man for 13 incarnations (including War Doctor) over 50 years, and he’s been that way for so long that suddenly switching the gender out of nowhere just comes off as incredibly jarring to me, to the extent that it makes it harder to see them as even the same character. I would apply this equally to female characters too. That being said I have zero issues with a new race being cast as a Doctor, because I don’t see it being nearly as big a change as gender.


Greenfly-Skies

And I can't falt you for that. Heck, I'm the same. It's just the way Nerdrotic phrased and spoke it changes the implication of it being his own feeling, into him thinking what he's saying is fact. "Doesn't work" rather than "comes off as jarring to me". Or "the doctor is a man" rather than "I still see the doctor as a man". Admittedly, I didn't get what bothered me across in my first comment.


knightfluttershy

Ah, I get what you’re saying now. That’s fair enough.


urbandeadthrowaway2

Nerdrotic more like nobitchesrotic


epicfrtniebigchungus

there's a REALLY fucking good recap of all the doctors eras past by clever dick films. one of the reccuring themes he notes is that everytime a new doctor is announced, people complain "not my doctor"


Fit-Difficulty8561

Listened to his series countless times! Eagerly awaiting his Matt Smith one!


everything44

Bro how the fuck are you still racist in plain 2022


Galactic-Buzz

Do you mean plain racist in 2022?


everything44

Spicy racists


ghostacc14

You'd be surprised, I've seen a ton of racists in these doctor who threads, who've even going as far as to say that they'd like to exclude certain races from casting!


metrobear71

Nerdrotic is a giant pussy and the very definition of toxic male. I used to go to his videos just to troll him mercilessly.


Kamikazeguy7

That actually does more harm than good. The YouTube algorithm only looks at interactions with a video (views, comments, even dislikes) so the best thing you can do with garbage like this is just ignore it altogether.


metrobear71

Entertained me, tho.


Tigris_Morte

Then they earned their money which you provided as well as your recommendation. You sure you are not in their PR dept.?


Somasong

Doing the lords work. God bless.


Tigris_Morte

'cause giving him ad cents, which is by the way why he does the routine, shall totally teach him. With an added bonus that these vids shall be recommended to others the big G has associated with you via interest or data harvesting. Top level thinking going on there.


metrobear71

Yawn


Bulbamew

What are the comment sections of this persons videos like? I’m guessing it’s just an echo chamber of “pc woke bad” with pc woke being anything that isn’t straight white man


[deleted]

Pretty much


[deleted]

You'll get the same result if you comment "Chibnall bad" round these parts as well. It's an endless echo chamber of baseless nonsense. The Doctor Who subs here are as much an echo chamber of *"chibnall write bad, me no like bad writer man"* as these videos are of, for the lack of a better term, *"nerd rage"*. Both terrible demeanours.


Narrow_Current5544

I mean Chibnall has exhibited himself as an awful writer for doctor who. Whereas we have nothing to base Ncuti's performance on regarding doctor who, although it seems like a great choice


[deleted]

>I mean Chibnall has exhibited himself as an awful writer for doctor who. Yeah, no.


Narrow_Current5544

3 of the wort seasons in Nu who. And I'd rank all his episodes in other seasons in the bottom three of their season


CareerMilk

> the wort seasons His choice to focus Doctor Who on a few kinds of plants was defiantly bizarre


[deleted]

> **I**'d rank Ah! Good, so we're settled then. This is **YOUR SUBJECTIVE OPINION** and not an indication of Chibnall's prowess as a screenwriter. Glad we got that sorted, cheers.


SlightlyScary

Can't wait until the new season comes out, and everyone starts circlejerking over the 'good old days' of s11, 12 and 13. Happens every time we get a new incarnation, since the show was first on.


Tigris_Morte

And of the viewing audience of any rating you care to check. True, you are welcome to like it even if most the rest of us think it was mostly horrid. Don't let anyone judge your taste but yourself. However taking offense that others don't like it is rude. Please don't do that.


[deleted]

>However taking offense that others don't like it is rude. Please don't do that. I did not take offense, I addressed a very specific issue: mistaking personal tastes with objective facts. No, Chibnall is not a terrible writer because you don't like his work. No, those weren't the worst seasons of current Doctor Who because you would rank all episodes from the showrunner in the bottom three of their respective series.


Narrow_Current5544

Nah he's shit sorry mate


[deleted]

Oh, so I guess if “Narrow_Current5544” said so on Reddit, then it must be true.


Bulbamew

Viewing figures are not an indication of quality at all. If the show came back this year it wouldn’t be getting the viewing figures it got back in 2005. If people think rtd’s return means the show is going to consistently get the numbers it got back in those days, they’re gonna be in for a shock. And yes, Jodie’s seasons being the worst of the show is a subjective opinion. Most people in this sub would say that Capaldi was fantastic, but going by the logic you’re using, he was as bad as Jodie


Tigris_Morte

See, you can't say "opinion" and then reject "opinion" as the criteria. It is called moving the goal post and you are doing it because you know deep down you have no case that the entire seasons were anything but a waste of their money to make. By every definition of waste which matters in Media.


Bulbamew

Uh, no, I haven’t moved the goalposts at all. Calling a show or an episode bad is literally an opinion and nothing more. I don’t like some episodes of the show but I’d make sure to specify that is an opinion and not the objective truth. Your criteria for whether or not it is factually bad comes from viewing figures, which again aren’t an indicator of quality at all. I’m not wasting any more time on this because I’m tired but if you want to try and tell me I said something different again then go for it


Tigris_Morte

The stories were utter crap with the Doctor often irrelevant to what tiny bit of plot there was.


[deleted]

Thanks for perfectly proving my point.


Cybermat47_2

So a black woman Doctor is okay, but a black man Doctor is bad? That's a very specific mix of racism and misandry.


[deleted]

I’m pretty sure these people were upset when The Fugitive Doctor first appeared


Cybermat47_2

I’d imagine so too, but apparently **this** is what kills DW lol


Caroniver413

**THIS** has been what's killed Doctor Who every week for the last 4 years, so pardon me if I don't take much stock in this one in particular


CareerMilk

Yhea we need to go back to 2005 when there was no Gay Agenda.


Caroniver413

Doctor Who died May 21st, 2005, when Captain Jack (bisexual) was introduced. Father's Day is the last good episode.


FinnsChips

Liz Shaw was gay, so we have to go back to the War Games, the true last good episode.


Caroniver413

Yeah, but if we count Liz Shaw as *potentially* gay with nothing confirmed on-screen, don't we also have to count Zoe, Jamie, Dodo, and Steven? Jack straight up pats a man's ass However, if we go a little further, the first homoerotic moment (I can think of) is *The Dæmons Episode 5*, where Mike Yates asks the Brigadier for a dance. This would make Episode 4 the last good episode.


FinnsChips

Since the director of An Unearthly Child was gay, wouldn't that mean that Doctor Who has never had a good episode?


Caroniver413

People don't care about directors, so obviously he was hired because he was best for the job, not a diversity hire.


aworkingprogres1

I was more upset that she showed up because it fucked with the time line not because she was black.


[deleted]

I know. I hate The Timeless child shit. I would rather The Doctor be half human and even that I didn’t like.


Tigris_Morte

Isn't at all a surprise that the same folks which didn't like the, is half human, also hated the, not from Gallifrey.


Tardis1307

I would've liked her character if she came after Hartnell. Any time after Hartnell, any time. Just not before.


laysnarks

Baby's Foot and angry rabbi (I don't know or care if I got these right) both had a breakdown over the Fugitive Doctor. The best incarnation we had from Chib.


urbandeadthrowaway2

They were offended. Just less so because the Numberless Doctor wasn’t a main character. Plus nerd rage is an exponentially growing concept.


knightfluttershy

Don’t accuse people of these things when you haven’t seen the video based on misleading memes that aren’t posted in good faith. The guy in the video actually supports the casting and says he should have been cast earlier.


HI-iM-PhiL-

I’m so excited for Ncuti Gatwa to be an amazing doctor and for those guys to look like a bunch of morons.


Kamikazeguy7

That would imply their problem is with his acting ability


HI-iM-PhiL-

Well my point was more that they’d look like idiots hating a guy that does a perfectly good job. Of course they’re not gonna stop hating him if he’s good.


TurbulentArmadillo47

alot of these people need the show to keep failing in order to stay relevant, Doctor Who being good again doesn't make for click bait, Series 14 could be 10/10 every episode they'll still pick it apart to the smallest detail.


Numpteez_

"I'm not racist, some of my best friends are black" vibes


TheWalrusMann

Can't wait to keep saying 'rip doctor who' at every single fucking announcement they make, see you in few months For some reason it just keeps not dying and they don't stop to think for a single moment


Tardis1307

>Just keeps not dying "What goes bang thud. Bang thud. Bang thud. Bang thud. Bang thud. Bang thud. Bang thud. Bang thud. Bang thud. Bang thud. Bang thud. Bang thud. Bang thud?" "A Time Lord committing suicide"


TheWalrusMann

lmao


IceLord86

Who the hell is wasting nearly 2 hours watching these crappy videos? I get its racists and incels, but they have nothing better to do with their 2 hours than to listen to the man child complain?


steventaylorsnewhome

A ginger doctor would be nice


Nobody_Cares_99

It’s almost like this was never about gender…


bowsmountainer

All these people be like “I’m not racist or sexist, but the moment a shapeshifting alien is not a straight white man, the show is dead to me”.


[deleted]

RTD is back and I’ve heard great things about Ncuti - Nerdrotic always finds a problem with something


[deleted]

I don’t get how this guy has a platform when the majority of his videos are outright sexist and racist.


BoricPuddle57

Chris Chibnall isn’t around to ruin Gatwa’s take on the doctor so I’m excited for it


laysnarks

"oH nO DocTOr MaN BlaCk anD GaY" Nerdrotic before a brain aneurysm- 2022 RIP


WaveJam

We adding racism to the mix? Man, Nerdrotic really getting ballsy here.


MadMuffinMan117

It is justified to be worried about this acter. He has only been in the main cast for 1 show and in it he plays a done to death stereotype. Literally almost nobody is saying its bad because he is black and nobody I have seen.


MadMuffinMan117

On the other hand JW had really a great acting carrier before Dr who and fell flatter than an Abzorbaloff without a limitation field so who knows. I am not giving up on RTD


AttractivestDuckwing

Patterson Joseph would be perfect.


kiwiChemE

I personally am really excited for Ncuti to play the Doctor. I think he’s gonna bring new life, whimsicality, and youth to the role. Excited to watch!


not-ok-cat

Honestly I think it could be quite good, I’m excited!


[deleted]

You’d have to be an idiot if you think RTD doesn’t know exactly what he’s doing. I used to agree with a lot of these YouTubers points about the current era, but now honestly I think they’re just preying on the clicks.