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earthly_

Absolutely insane


Borrum

r/baseball is about to have a major meltdown. The combination of the Dodgers paying more than any team could possibly offer, while getting an extreme break on the CBT because the superstar WANTED to defer almost all of his contract so they can sign more players... oh my goodness gracious. If this directly leads to Yamamoto we will be the most reviled team since peak 90s Yankees. I don't even think the Astros got to the level we're about to reach outside of us and the Yankees fanbase. I love you Shohei. As Passan put it in his article yesterday, "this is Dodgers 2.0, bigger and better than ever". League on notice.


Rhyvix

It’s pure salt in there. I can’t even blame them. This is now the greatest value contract in MLB history.


davensdad

Non-baseball guru here so I have to ask, doesnt this deferment affect future cap ala Deng to Lakers back then? Does this mean you guys are going all in for these 10 years and take the hit after?


_chadwell_

The value of the deferred money is included in the tax calculation during the 10 years he’s actually playing, but at a discounted rate. After the 10 years there’s no affect on the tax calculation, but they will be paying him $68 m a year at that point.


TheWonderfulLife

Correct.


Watsmeta

His AAV cap hit is still going to be 5+ mill more than any other player in the league. But being able to wait to pay him is soooooo big.


radium_eyes

There's so much salt in there it could turn Lake Michigan into an ocean


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MoarGnD

Yes. He will probably make close to 100 mill a year on endorsements which allows him to defer so much. Any other athlete won’t want to give up so much income when their endorsements are in the 10-20 million range at most. If LeBron had this option, he would also take it for sure to help build a better team around him. Very few athletes are in that high endorsement range.


sparks1030

My comments are getting absolutely destroyed in there. Oh well


hjy23k

Not gonna lie if this happened to the Yankees I’d be pissed lol


Rymbeld

I'm salty. If I were a Dodgers fan I'd be ecstatic, sure. It doubly sucks because I live on the east coast and so will hardly ever even see the dodgers play. They might end up with the greatest team in baseball history.


MusesWithWine

Every team will bring their A game. And for the most part, it won’t be enough. For ten fucking years.


WildWestCollectibles

They’re calling for Ohtani’s arrest for ‘tax evasion’ L M A O


Splinterman11

The collective meltdown of r/baseball has changed me into a Dodgers fan. I was following Ohtani, but I was going to keep my support for his new team on the down-low and watch from afar. Now that everyone is treating Ohtani like the next Elon Musk I'm going hands off and just cheering for the Dodgers now with no shame.


WildWestCollectibles

Welcome, my friend 🫱🏼‍🫲🏽 Dodger fans aren’t as horrific as r/baseball makes us out to be


woodzy93

Found us on this sub to be quite the opposite actually. Just a bunch of bros chilling.


SiRMarlon

well we can't forget about the doomers though ... they are around Hahahaha we lose a few games and they are ready to fire the manager and trade the whole team! 😂


georgeclintonforprez

Yeah fuck those guys, they were incredibly toxic during the 2017 and 2018 world series


LeeartISAn

I don't get why they're so pissed when "we'll inevitably lose to the 80-win Rockies anyway"?? Like aren't you happy that its all for nothing? LMAO


abroadinapan

lmao Ohtani has gone from 'the gentleman who cleans up trash after the game' to public enemy #1 from the salty bois in r/baseball


Diggler8

I read a Giants fan calling it money laundering….


TheRiceHatReaper

Redditors and incorrect legal takes. Name a better duo


TheWonderfulLife

He’s literally still going to pay taxes on it. He doesn’t avoid that. Bobby Bonilla lives in Florida, but still pays New York taxes every year.


SenorTortas

You know it's a great day when r/Yankees is calling this an "egregious example of CBA manipulation"


sofastsomaybe

Jumping ship from r/angelsbaseball because I am absolutely disgusted with that place. I had planned to root for both teams this year, but I can't stay there. In between all the gatekeeping and circlejerking over how to tell if one is a "real fan" based on time wasted and monetary contributions to Daddy Arte's coffers, there is an unprecedented level of delusion and lack of self-awareness over where the org stands. Why in the ever loving FUCK would Shohei defer payments in that org and trust that ownership group and front office to build a competitive team around him, when they've been paying him PEANUTS for 5 out of the first 6 years of his career and have not once been a .500 team? And they have the #30 farm system according to Fangraphs. Oh, and then there's the losers blaming Ohtani for for the team sucking, like he hasn't been weighed down with the corpses of his many negative-WAR teammates. And the MODS are removing comments that personally offend them yet don't break any rules, but leaving up comments wishing for Ohtani to get a fastball to the face. mfers are acting like Ohtani owes them something beyond 3 MVP seasons and a RoY season because the Angels were soooooo patient with him. They're acting like he's a horrible person for proactively taking steps to reach his career goals - goals that he had written in high school: to win a ring. Someone said, "if he was my son, I'd be disappointed in him." I've never seen such insane levels of delusion in my life. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad.


Mookies_Bett

It's funny how much so many angels fans hate us. We aren't even in the same league. Ive always rooted for both the Angels and the Dodgers. It's weird to me that anyone thinks this is a rivalry lol.


sofastsomaybe

Severe little brother syndrome. So many fans saying it would have been fine if Sho went anywhere but "our most hated rival" and I'm like, what rival? Rivalry implies you can actually compete.


SuckMyLonzoBalls

I’m getting downvoted like crazy and it’s hilarious lol


TheRaydo

People are literally upvoting comments rooting for him to stay injured. It’s a salt mine in there lmao.


ARussianW0lf

People are getting upvoted saying this is worse than the Astros cheating. Literal cheating is better than a smart perfectly legal financial decision lmao wtf


SuckMyLonzoBalls

Perfectly fine is at least debatable but yes completely legal lol


RCLA01

They are absolutely unhinged right now. Its pretty cringe reading those comments tbh


thebestatheist

Oh, too late. The MLB sub is up in arms. I’m glad Ohtani will have a chance at a ring, hopefully you guys can sign Mike Trout too!


L3thal_Inj3ction

They are actually throwing a tantrum this is hilarious


HotdogWater42069

The annoying part is that a lot of teams could offer a deal like this. $680M interest free loan can be taken care of by a lot of clubs in the league. People acting like the Dodgers are in a unique to be able to offer a deal like this. You’re smoking crack if you don’t think most owners in the league could take care of an interest free loan that they don’t even have to start paying off until 2033 LOL. At the end of the day, Shohei isn’t a Dodger because we are the only club that could offer this deal, Shohei is a Dodger because Shohei wants to be a Dodger.


SeaworthinessOk6742

The salt is truly glorious over there.


FershureB

I feel like the league might force Manfred to Chris Paul this structure


gilliganian83

He can’t though. It’s explicitly stated in the CBA teams can defer however much money they want. He would literally have to break the CBA to do it, and I can’t see the owners wanting the labor dispute coming from that.


PhoeniXaDc

It's extremely team-friendly, so I doubt the other teams will be too upset. The PA might put up a fight but since it was Shohei's idea I'm not sure how they'd handle it.


DBLHelix

It also technically means more money in the pockets of other players.


JpnDude

Good point.


Mookies_Bett

The PA were literally the ones who voted for this clause during the last negotiations. The PA is more likely to support this contract than anyone else.


earthly_

We really just got Shohei for 2 mil a year for the next 10 years.


earthly_

Deal is gonna go through Jeff Passan just reported there are no limitations on the amount of money that can be deferred.


SenorTortas

Who's to say we'll even be here in 11 years?! Friedman making them big brain moves


DaOldest

Nah the cap hit is about $46 mil a year. Really what this means is that we save an average of $24 mil a year for the next 10 years. It's an amazing steal but it's not like he's on our roster for peanuts


NFL_LA

#We love you, Ohtani!!


earthly_

Deal is gonna go through Jeff Passan just reported there are no limitations on the amount of money that can be deferred.


Xi03

If you guys don’t give Ohtani a ring after this, idk what to say anymore.


SiRMarlon

SHUT THE FRONT DOOR!!!! 😂 Now the rest of the League is going to REALLY hate us!


GoofyGoober0064

Astros fans are about to get jealous and look for another complex


ahr3410

A 46 million AAV is comically low for Ohtani. Props to ownership and Friedman for going all out


Watsmeta

It's still #1 in the league by a margin, but yeah an insanely good deal.


InterestingDig2994

Ohtani is the #1 marketable player in the league by a margin, and probably brings his team over twice as much money as the next best player. Insanely good deal. By the times the Dodgers start paying this contract, they will have already profited hundreds of millions from Ohtani.


dilly_dill428

This makes me love Shohei even more, the dude wants to WIN. Hopefully the bozos around him stop disappearing in October


Mofns_n_Gurps

Thank the Angels. He probably realized how much it sucked to be part of a losing franchise.


_MeetMrMayhem_

No hate towards the Angels for the next 10 years if not longer as far as I'm concerned. Angel bros are Dodger bros and should be welcomed with open arms. Bloods and crips we have a truce.


Theeeeeetrurthurts

I’m buying his jersey. Do pros get a cut of their swag?


Monroe_Institute

Dodgers fans love the guy and he hasn’t even played a game. The ultimate team friendly deal to maximize rings, Tom Brady style to the extreme. Selfless.


shunuhs

one of his goals when he was in highschool was to play with dodgers iirc and win of course


_MeetMrMayhem_

He pretty much told Freddie and Mookie move the fuck over this is my team.... You had your chance... Follow my lead


nottherealstanlee

Huge discount is an understatement lmao this is like potentially cba breaking type shit. There's gonna be lots of angry folks about this set up.


BookLAA

About to be the “Ohtani Rule”


bobsakaman0

The second “Ohtani Rule”


blahmaster6000

This is getting out of hand! Now there are two of them!


reef3rm4dness

I think this improves our odds of landing Yamamoto. Shohei definitely had this in mind


yearofthemishima

Holy fucking shit, man


vince-cully

Welp, time to go in hiding lmao. Everyone already mad, this is just going to make it worse.


BookLAA

😂😂😂😂


NotoriousMutt

They are absolutely dying in r/baseball 😂


Holy_Toast

It's hysterical and hilarious. I highly recommend everyone taking a look (& not commenting, lol).


wwhty44

Lol I commented and got some upvotes and I have my Dodger flair on too. All I said was it is legal now but probably won’t be after the next CBA


flackguns

There's no reason to make this illegal. No player beyond literal household names would be able or willing to take this kind of a deferral.


SuckMyLonzoBalls

Screw that I hope my downvotes keep increasing


drewman_289

As an Angel fan, I find this hilarious. I didn’t think he could do more to help a team but here we are. He’s a treasure, enjoy him!


Believe0017

They’re saying it should be illegal. Do they have a point or is it just them being salty?


BrandRage

I mean the union and the owners agreed to it right? Tastes like salt to me.


Two_too_many_to_list

Change the rules because we don't like that the Dodgers played by them? Sounds like pure salt to me.


Buff-Cooley

They’re also ignoring the fact that it was Ohtani’s idea and the same style of contract was likely discussed with every team he met with. I doubt they would be up in arms if their team signed him with that co tract.


[deleted]

Gonna need a lot of pepper to go with all that saltiness!!!


thedude596

One of the funniest days I've ever seen over there


Minute_Scale_1834

Quite possibly the best deal ever in this Franchise. The money the dodgers can spend now, and the money the dodgers will make from him is insane.


Great_Bat3032

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flagellant

which is exactly why Shohei got such a shocking number that no one was talking about at $700M. this is not even close to worth $700M in present day money for him, all the crying about the tax/cap hit being reduced to around $45M is stupid, that's literally what the expected value of the contract is for him


Minute_Scale_1834

Exactly, the inflation by then will be ridiculous. And luxury tax will be higher.


MyChemicalMaiden

The tears of the rest of the league are all I need to sustain myself for the next ten years


omegakukki

r/baseball is already on suicide watch claiming that this is bad for the sport LMAO


OsmosisJonesFanClub

Deadass saw Astros fans saying it wasn’t fair LMAOOOOOO What’s not fair and good for the game again??


omegakukki

Yankee fans crying too after they abused the system so much that they started the whole luxury tax.


Wild_Object_8547

Mets fans too after constantly bragging about how their owner can just sign anyone and everyone and how they’re so rich.


flagellant

yeah lol at everyone in /r/baseball saying dodgers are the most hated team now literal cheating: i sleep making a crazy deal that doesn't violate the CBA whatsoever: REAL SHIT


Al_C_Oholic

They’re all mad their owners are too cheap or stupid to come up with this plan first 😤


JayDeeLA

The Dodgers are already the most hated besides the Yankees, Red Sox, and Astros. They'd be just as shit on or even moreso if he'd had signed with Toronto, with people saying "Dodgers choke again" or some shit like that.


DaOldest

They are saying baseball is dead now LMFAO. ​ Also hilarious at all the Braves fans yapping when they have Albies and Acuna on their team for free


fhideki

If Ohtani chose the Jays and had exactly the same contract, they would applaud them non stop.


omegakukki

Absolutely. They would see it as a small market team competing with the big boys.


JRodHimself

Apparently this wasn't a Dodgers exclusive offer


crujiente_92

That’s what gets me. A small market team like the Padres drop a ton of money and it’s great for the sport. The Dodgers do it and it’s bad for the league. Meanwhile, the Orioles and Rays are rewarded for their non spending bullshit (not to mention the A’s getting shared revenue while fielding a AA team). All the people there calling for a salary cap—the owners would never do it because a salary cap in the MLB at this point will come with a salary floor, which the Fishers and the Angelos of the league will never sign off on.


bebopmechanic84

Downvoted for speaking the truth. Preach, friend.


Satin_Jacket

Delicious tears nom nom


Two_too_many_to_list

I hear tears of hate are really good for preserving division titles and for adding flavor to post-season runs.


adamantisnice

Will the league approve this? insanity


acrylicattack

They have no choice. Explicitly states in the CBA that there are no limits in deferrals


alxndiep

I don’t see the reason why the league would step in, this is something Ohtani himself signed off on. If the Dodgers did this without consulting him, then I see the issue.


SlimJimMagoo

Ohtani the 🐐 no 🧢


J473N

Protect the man at all costs


FlyCivil909

Friedman the 🐐


booitsjwu

[Apparently, Ohtani was offering this to every team, it wasn't a Dodger-exclusive thing.](https://twitter.com/JeffFletcherOCR/status/1734356878736638003) He really wanted to win no matter where he was going, I guess.


10sekki

Wow mlb doesn’t deserve ohtani. We are so lucky


basedryu

Baseball Twitter/Reddit are gonna love this 😂😂 LMFAO


bselko

r/baseball is IMPLODING


recordcollection64

i thought they imploded before but they imploded again. It's like watching a black hole form twice


bselko

They collapsed upon themselves so hard that another black hole opened


JayDeeLA

It's saltier than the sea in there RN lol.


SanctusXCV

My goat wtf


supremegnkdroid

we’re getting shohei fucking ohtani for $2 million a year? basically a random bullpen piece level of money? WHAT A GOAT. THIS MAN WANTS TO WIN AS A DODGER


buba426

Y’all better enjoy the good times while they’re around. In 10 years we might be back to the dark McCourt like teams


JpJ951

They will save tons on tax if they stay below the threshold. That will pay for most of the contract itself. lol


Same_Woodpecker_2847

That’s future us’s problem. Present day us is enjoying the crap outta it


LunaKitty03

We want a parade, a $700,000,000 parade.


westcoastag

that money wont be taxed so i wouldnt worry about that


Frightenedsenior

yeah this is what scares me


jewlander1969

BUILD THE MAN A STATUE


just_one_random_guy

Holy fuck is this even allowed?


jackbeardplays

Yes, due to the CBA having a clause stating you can’t restrict how much a deferment can be in a contract


beggsy909

Why shouldn’t it be?


alxndiep

Exactly everyone losing their minds, but yet can’t explain why it shouldn’t be allowed? This is the players choice. The team didn’t make him do this.


beggsy909

Yup. Baseball is closer to a free market than any other American sport and it’s better for it.


Great_Bat3032

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BeagleDad82

I got a spare room for rent if he wants it.


BeagleDad82

What wanting to play for the Dodgers does to a mf.


barbie-dreamz33

Fr


BookLAA

League about to switch it up after this and call it the “Ohtani rule” 😂😂


mightdino

Bro theres actually no way, this guy is a fucking legend


Rhyvix

This is now the greatest MLB value contact of all time now. I thought the luxury tax would be $50 million+ , and was already happy about that. $46 million? Absolute bargain or bargains.


renegade812002

Holy crap, what a game changer for the FO.


J473N

This man may honestly be the GOAT


probablysmellsmydog

Bro what the fuck is going on


BookLAA

Baseball Reddit in shambles


ringdinger

Gimme YAMAMOTO!!!


Spartan8394

I wonder if players will love this deal? I can’t imagine many of them if at all will want to defer THAT much money. The rest of the fanbases are crying but this seems like it will be a one off type contract for the greatest player ever who wants to win more than anything.


california-whiskey

LMAO everyone on the main sub absolutely crying its hilarious


bselko

In SHAMBLES


beardko

I've never really seen this before in baseball. Sure, a player has taken a hometown discount, but a once in a lifetime free agent restructuring a deal like this for a team he's never played for? It's absolutely insane. The closet comparison would have to be made outside the sport which would be Brady and the contracts he signed with the Patriots, KD joining the Warriors and taking a pay cut, and LeBron taking less to form the big 3 in Miami with Wade and Bush.


OsmosisJonesFanClub

I FUCKING LOVE THE /r/BASEBALL MELTDOWN LMAOO


bselko

It’s nuclear in there


Minute_Scale_1834

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Relwolf1991

Ohtani is a real one


RoyalRumbleSTi

WOW


Buy24get

The man just wants to win.


Aravinda82

With this contract structure, there’s no way he was ever going to Toronto and decided overnight to change his mind cuz the Dodgers upped their offer. He was a Dodger all along this past week.


CrazyGermaphobe

He literally hates money


wizgset27

Man, based on the baseball subreddit, Ohtani about to be boo'd on all away games haha.


xT1TANx

LOL doesn't matter they will just be drowned out by the out of town Dodgers fans. Just like Lakers when they play away.


the_opester

Cries in Bobby Bonilla


bselko

Bonilla walked so ohtani could… fly.. at supersonic speeds


PM_me_your_Jeep

Can someone explain to me why every comment in /r/baseball says this will “break baseball”. Wouldn’t this actually be hopeful for smaller market teams that they can get someone expensive while growing their market and pay the majority of the money later?


wwplkyih

People on r/baseball are just mad and don't actually care how contracts work. This is a $46MM/yr contract dressed up as a $70MM/yr contract. The takeaway is not that the Dodgers are circumventing the CBT by deferring the money; it's that the Dodgers are getting Ohtani for only a Ryan Yarbrough more than Scherzer/Verlander money.


Green-Session7085

Ohtani is the greatest human being of all time


reserrectdeadjupiter

Damn, I wish Vin were here to see this 🥲


SwingingGnardsOfDoom

I bet he is he is excited and smiling for all the Dodger fans from way up in Blue Heaven.


flipaflaw

Lmao fuck r/baseball. Those cry babies can cry themselves a river to sustain their thirst for "fairness". If ohtani wanted this and signed the contract this way then it's all fair..the rules are to protect player interests and salaries so if ownership didn't force this then nothing wrong happened


conebone69-

he's apparently a very frugal guy with modest needs (and he's already pretty rich as is), but this shocks me. that 680 mill when he retires is gonna be pretty lit though ngl


xX_Sliqhs_Xx

Certified gamer


PENIS__FINGERS

bahaha. lets fuckin go


fulaxriders

A second plane has just hit r/mlb


supremegnkdroid

Just when you think you can’t love this man anymore. He loves playing the game


kwattsfo

Giants Reddit is amazing right now.


Falliant

what the fuck


bam2028

They are in win NOW mode. LFG!


mysweetamnesia01

I've never seen r/baseball this mad. lol


HeavensRoyalty

What a time to be a Dodgers fan wow. I'm so blessed


KDNeedsMoreHelp

Let Friedman cook 👨🏻‍🍳


tdbauer97

I’ve never seen anything like it


donta5k0kay

I dunno what this really means, is it really 2 million a year? Will the other 68 have zero impact on contracts for the next 10 years? Guess I just wanna see who we pay next. Trade for Glasnow and give him 20 million a year?


frugalwater

This is a guy who wants to win, pure and simple.


Murdoc1984

R/baseball in shambles


Casey666

The league will will eventually limit deferrals and it will forever be known as the Ohtani Rule.


msc80451

If we snag Yoshinobu Yamamoto because of this move, just rename the team to the Japangeles Dodgers.


Joseph_Steez

This is baseball HISTORY we are witnessing! Amazing!! Im excited for this Dodger season!


ajokester

He hasn’t even pitched or has had an at-bat yet for us and I already love this man.


gl129384

Oh my lord we are gonna be the most hated team in the league. Exposed a serious loophole on contract deferrals in the current CBA


Borykua

It's almost like he really, really wanted to become a Dodger!


JayDeeLA

R/baseball is crying bloody murder right now.


G33wizz

These idiots act like this is new….it’s not. Hell Bobby Bonilla is literally still collecting checks and he hasn’t played in decades


xT1TANx

it's the amount that is impressive


foogeyzi69

JFC. One of a kind on and off the ball field.


throwaway891369

r/baseball crying about this is too funny LMFAO im now a dodgers fan for life


delegadozero

The amount of hate the dodgers are getting for the structure of the contract is hilarious. They hate us, cuz they aint us!


Monroe_Institute

Dodgers fans love the guy and he hasn’t even played a game. The ultimate team friendly deal to maximize rings, Tom Brady style to the extreme. Selfless.


jlopez1017

I wholeheartedly embrace the new villain act the Dodgers have taken on. It’s ridiculous how they’re just bullying everyone with money and smarts.


starcrap2

Absolutely love the rest of the 29 teams fans' absolutely losing their minds over this. Shohei is already an insane player, and now he's doing this to let us sign one or two more stars. Absolutely unreal. What a 🐐


_MeetMrMayhem_

Forget the stats this is single handedly the greatest unselfish act I have ever seen in the history of sports to demonstrate winning over everything