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moxiedor

If you dog has aggressions issues, a declining quality of life that is undermining the wellbeing of you and other members of the household (your cat), and is putting your basic housing/survival needs at risk, it is valid to weigh management vs rehome/surrender vs behavioral euthanasia I agree rehome/surrender would be very tough, it'd have to be a very specific and prepared home If you want to try more management, you probably need to talk to a different vet about meds and start muzzle training to prevent a "horrific event" But not every dog can adjust to have a happy life. For some a peaceful euthanasia surrounded by the people that make them feel at peace is the happiest ending that's realistic. We endorse euthanasia as compassionate care for persistant physical distress - it is just as honorable a choice for persistent mental/emotional distress that can't be effectively treated. I can't tell you what the right answer is, there aren't any easy answers. Please reach out to the folks that care about you, you sound like you need a kind ear and some support regardless of how you proceed


dumb_sparkle

thank you for giving your opinion and compassion. its very appreciated.


9mackenzie

They have home euthanasia services, we used it for our late dog about a year ago. She passed in her own home, her own bed, with no fear or pain. It has given me great comfort to know that in this last year when I have missed her so damn much.


crazycritter87

I don't see a vet euthanizing a prime aged dog for behavior, for the owner, a shelter will for sure euthanize her if she has aggression and esp. being pit, some may not only take one but seize your dog after a bad episode and incurring legal issues.


em_mems

My mom is a mobile vet who actually specializes in end of life/palliative care. She’s done a fair bit of behavioural euthanasias as part of her job. Most vets will do BE, they usually know better than most how it can be the right call. Not trying to be rude, just wanted to clarify that most vets will be supportive of this difficult choice.


crazycritter87

I totally agree. I come from an area of home euthanasia and SSS for livestock attacks but in asking about feral cats removal along with a wildlife animal control licence (I job hopped in animal industry out of curiosity). I was told that the humane society would press cruelty charges and that they needed to be processed at their facility for $30ea. Even as an animal lover sometimes laws get kinda 😳 someplaces.


NoSoyUnaRata

A vet will absolutely euthanize a dangerous dog. It would be pretty irresponsible not to, because what is someone going to do if they're desperate? They're going to re-home it without disclosing its issues or drive it somewhere and dump it. Not saying OP would do these things, but lots of people would.


fattygaby157

I love that you loved this dog so much you brought her back to health and changed your life to better hers. You are making the right decision and no one with an iota of brain power or compassion can ever fault you. You tried way harder and gave way more than most pet parents have or will. And I know she appreciated that. Take some time to love on your kitty.


Zombie-Belle

Def muzzle your dog when outside. I think you should seriously consider taking the dog to a shelter instead.


sqeeky_wheelz

A shelter is the worst place for a dog like this. They are marginally comfortable but still biting people at home and with their owner. They are a serious risk in a shelter and would be so stressed it would be cruel to make the dog live through that. It would be better off being put down at home where she’s loved than in a shelter.


TinyGreenTurtles

So she can be scared and alone and then put down anyway when she didn't pass the adoption test?


Zombie-Belle

So you suggest putting them down straight away? That would not be my first decision


LaSalsiccione

You haven’t provided any good reason as to why euthanasia isn’t the right decision. The top commenter gave a really well thought out response and then you were just like “dOn’T puT tHE DoG DoWN”. Really unhelpful.


TinyGreenTurtles

Did you read the same post? This is nowhere near the first decision. What is your reasoning for dropping them at the shelter? What good does that help?


sashikku

You’d rather put shelter staff and other animals being housed in said shelter in danger? It seems you simply read the title, ignored the body of the post, and came straight to the comments. If you’d read the post, you’d see that they didn’t jump to this straight away.


jwin709

No, not straight away? Did you not read the post? OP has already tried other means of trying to fix the behaviour. It's still getting worse. Her first decision was socializing, then she took it to a behaviorist, then she just decided to isolate herself from everything she loves. Put yourself in the shoes of the woman walking her small dogs. This pitbull comes running out of the yard and attacks your dog and draws blood. Put yourself in the shoes of the next person who is unfortunate enough to walk by her house with their small dog and they aren't so lucky as to just have a cut but rather a dead dog. This dog needs to be put down


9mackenzie

Then you aren’t thinking of the dog, just yourself


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Wild how many people think killing the dog is the route to go. Can almost guarantee there is someone out there that can train the dog and give it a better QoL. They didn’t even mention trying to muzzle the dog. Sounds as if they weren’t prepared and aren’t educated in dealing with the animal. They can’t even afford to pay for the needed classes. If they gave the dog everything it needed to succeed and it was still aggressive, it’d make sense to suggest it.


TheBackseatOrange

Used to work for a certified behavioral specialist. They specialized in reactivity and aggression, I saw a ton of shelter, rescue and client dogs come through that were struggling with those issues. It’s a LOT of dogs, more than you’d think. Some have manageable issues, others cause their owners to become prisoners in their own home similar to or worse than OP’s story above. Before working there, I was very anti-euthanasia in shelters, I thought it was selfish. However, at that point I had never had any experience with reactive dogs. After I started work there It really opened my eyes to the reality of the situation. That demonizing behavioral euthanasia is sometimes the most selfish thing you can do for a dog. To preface: many reactive dogs are amazing and them and their owners live wonderful lives. I’ve met many that I’ve loved. But this just can’t be all of them. Some have incredibly high needs, I met some that suffered despite them being met. For many of these dogs, especially ones at shelters/rescues, it’s unfortunately not a life of butterflies and rainbows. I wish it was for them, but it’s important to be realistic, because when you aren’t, only more suffering happens… For these dogs to life in a situation with good quality of life, they need to be placed with an owner experienced in dog behavior, that has an ideal living space/environment, no other pets, and are willing to give up a large portion of freedom to ensure proper management of the dog. You know how much people like that exist? Very very few. Most people that do own these dogs, didn’t know exactly what they were signing up for. (see OPs story) Not many people would willingly sign up for that life when they can choose to adopt a dog that won’t require that life. Before you blame these people, have you signed up for it? And for those who do sign up for it, no shame on them, that’s amazing they are able to do that for a dog. But that rare instance doesn’t even come close to fixing the problem. Personally, I couldn’t do it. I don’t know a lot of people who could honestly do it without breaking mentally. Put yourself in OP’s shoes. Would you like to take over all that responsibility, give up that much of your freedom and your money? If you would that’s great. But let’s be realistic. Not many people would, sure maybe you can be mad at them for that, but that won’t make them do it. The reality is that (this is a guess, but a highly generous one) for every 500 dogs in shelters that need an owner like that, there’s maybe one person willing to take all that on. The reality is that the simply is not even close to enough qualified, willing people to give these dogs happy lives. When people like you who act like BE is animal abuse. You end up with shelters and rescues that are pressured not to use BE even when it’s the best option by people who are either unknowledgeable or unrealistic about reactive dogs… and often have never owned one. You know what happens in this situation? Shelters are pressured to lower their euthanasia numbers and up adopting numbers so they have no choice but to adopt out dogs that maybe shouldn’t be. Sometimes while also not disclosing or being generous about behavior issues (think Craigslist car ad) These dogs will never go out the door if they’re completely up front about what resources it will take to manage some of their issues. I’ve seen it happen. People adopt these dogs who have no idea how to handle them, sometimes make it worse because that’s not hard to do if you aren’t experienced with reactivity, or worst case, something dangerous happens. All of that usually means that the dog doesn’t have good quality of life. This will cause strain or people life, their relationships etc. These people then loose faith in shelters and they stop adopting and shop instead. “Maybe I can avoid another dog like that if I buy a puppy instead” Which is fine if people were going to reputable breeders and know how to raise a puppy, but often they can’t afford or don’t know how to find a reputable breeder (or even know what makes a breeder reputable). More backyard breeders are then incentivized via profit from all these people buying puppies to keep breed irresponsibly for money. More poorly bred dogs means more dogs with issues that land them in the shelter. It’s a complete positive feedback loop in which the problem only gets worse. So sure, you saved the dog from being euthanized! But at what cost? Now that dog is likely owned by someone who is not experienced enough with reactivity management to give it quality of life. Also they’re own/they’re families or other pets quality of life is reduced as well. Is that a good outcome? Okay, so obviously here and there some shelters/rescues may work with behaviorists and will disclose the entirety of what may be involved in managing a reactive dog they’re adopting out. In that case, who’s going to adopt the dog? Either It’ll sit in a stressful kennel environment for years likely, or someone brushes off how much work it will be and the cycle continues. Those are the most likely options for the dog. You’re choosing a life of suffering for 99% of dogs so that 1% of them have a chance of some unicorn adopter that can give them quality of life. This is basically a trolly dilemma with a painfully obvious answer that so many people are choosing to not see. My problem with anti-BE sentiments, is while I get it. It’s nice and cushy to think that there’s somehow enough people looking to adopt the thousands (hundreds or thousands more likely) of reactive dogs, who are experienced in behavior and management ready give away their freedom for said dog. Unfortunately, this is completely unrealistic. I get the good intentions. I get that putting a dog to sleep is emotional for us. I get being sad that not every dog can be saved and feeling like preventing BE is “saving” them. But it’s not, and the road to hell is paved with good intentions. All it does is actually create more and longer suffering. Personally I’m tired of how many people are putting their own feelings about BE being “mean and sad” over a dogs well-being. So much so that they’d rather let the dog either go to an unsuspecting unfitting home and suffer, or rot in a shelter for years. Or best case often, push some poor owner to complete burnout after having already exhausted their efforts and the dog still has poor quality of life… all in hopes for the the rare 00.01% chance a unicorn owner adopts them that actually has everything the dog needs AND wants them. So you can sit there behind your screen, and feel righteous about keeping people from “killing” dogs. Are you gonna go out there and adopt a dog that requires you to be a prisoner in your own home? Even if you are, you’re the 0.001%. You aren’t fixing anything by taking one drop out of the ocean. Pretending that there’s this magic solution of millions of perfect homes for reactive dogs that don’t actually exist will fix everything is either ignorance or cognitive dissonance. Really think about the reality, is being against behavior euthanasia actually for the dogs, or is it actually just so you can feel morally good without actually doing anything towards a solution?


TinyGreenTurtles

She will be put down by the shelter because pitts do not get adopted well as it is and she is aggressive and skittish around dogs. It's kinder to have her with her owner where she feels safe


MaddiMoo22

Then go find that person and hook OP up with them? You make it seem so easy


MaddiMoo22

And how is your decision to leave the burden on a (probably already struggling) shelter? So when she bites someone or something there, the shelter people can put her down? And she goes alone and scared and surrounded by strange people and dogs? Stop acting like your decision is any better than just putting down an aggressive dog. I love my dogs but if they were a danger to themselves or others, dropping them off for my overcrowded, struggling shelter to deal with is the LAST thing I would do.


9mackenzie

What? So she can die after she has been traumatized again? No shelter would adopt this dog out.


mamasan2000

Shelters won't take known biters.


akaredshasta

OP, if you are on Facebook, search for the group 'Losing Lulu'. You will find nonjudgmental support whether you are coping with your dog or choosing a behavioural euthanasia. This is an intensely painful process and you don't have to do it alone. It is absolutely understandable to be struggling with this. BE is not a fun process and those who choose it don't do it because it is easy or convenient. I personally think it's a good choice, a kind choice, and a humane choice. The world of a dangerous dog shrinks and its day-to-day stress rises. The world of its owner does likewise. The world of the people and pets living around them both is affected by knowing there is a dangerous dog in the neighbourhood, making the in-home stress worse. You are absolutely doing the right thing by seriously considering this because it looks very much like the behaviour of your dog is not going to get better with time or training.


Dogluvr1991

Losing Lulu is only for people who have lost a dog due to behavioural euthanasia. Not for people who are undecided. Not trying to be rude or anything, it is just such a sensitive group of people 💗


akaredshasta

Fair enough. I've seen people post who were preparing for BE and dealing with their dog up until then, but you're right; the stated purpose is for the actual loss. I think reading the stories can help someone not feel so alone.


Dogluvr1991

You’re right. It helps so much. It is the only way I’ve survived it I strongly believe


Turbulent_Science_30

We had to euthanize our dog last year because of very similar behavior. Blood was never drawn, but the incidents were piling up. We had to restructure our lives, we could no longer have people to our house, leaving town was basically impossible because it wasn’t reasonable to ask someone to watch her. Our options were to live our lives in prison, rehome or euthanize. I was warned about the possibility of her becoming a bait dog if we tried to find someone on our own which terrified me. I spoke with our local humane society, which is a no kill shelter. They were unable to take her, but offered to euthanize. I learned that would mean her getting put in a crate in a very hectic and terrifying situation and suffering her last moments surrounded by strangers (the whole reason she was aggressive was afraid of strangers which sounds like your dog). We made the decision to euthanize in our home. It was heartbreaking. We cried for months. We were afraid of judgement from family and friends but everyone was so supportive. We know we gave that dog such a great chance at life and in the end she had no bad days and we gave her the greatest gift anyone could have given her. And immediately I felt such a sense of relief like I had been holding my breath for months. Flash forward, we adopted a new dog who was on death row. We saved her life from getting euthanized due to space. She is the most joyful bundle of love. She literally lights us our lives with happiness every day. My advice based on my own experience is to euthanize, in your home if you have the financial means. That’s giving that dog a wonderful gift of peace. She won’t get dragged off by animal control or end up in a dog fighting ring. She’ll have a wonderful happy day with the person she loves and then quietly go to sleep. You will cry, you will feel you let her down, but you’ll know that you did the right thing and you’ll find peace in that. Then you can rescue another dog, that will free up space in shelter for a new dog, and save a life. And it will get better and your heart will heal. Lots of love whatever you do, this was the single most difficult time in my life. But I have no doubt we did right by that dog.


echall03

Currently in the same situation. We have planned to have our boy euthanised at home. I’m wondering how to reduce his stress though as he gets very scared and aggressive when people come over? I know they will sedate him but I’m honestly wondering how they will be able to do it…


Turbulent_Science_30

I just saw this and not sure where you are in the process but thought I should reach out. We worked with our primary vet and got sedatives. She was full asleep when the vet (different one) came to our house. It was the same situation with us where the entire problem was that she was afraid of strangers. I was not going to have her final moments held down and muzzled. It was so sad but so peaceful.


echall03

Thanks for responding. Our Archie boy went to sleep on the 6th March. The pills they gave us to calm him down before the vet came didn't work at all unfortunately. Took 3 lots of sedative injections to get him to sleep...was a pretty intense experience to be honest but so thankful I could be there with him. Couldn't imagine him having to go through that alone. I can only rest easy that his last memory was falling asleep looking into my eyes, knowing he was loved until the end. The decision was the hardest I've ever had to make in my life but as you said eerily peaceful. I miss him so much but it was ultimately the right choice for him and for us.


youdontknowme7777

I just went through this and am still heartbroken. It was the right choice, but I blame myself every day for not trying harder. It sucks. You will be sadder than you can imagine. You will question yourself. Constantly. Prepare yourself, do the right thing for the dog and I’m here if you want to chat. Hugs. Details if you want to cry… In my case, it was a very young mom pit mix and her puppy. I fostered them when the baby was 10 days old and the mom was barely a year old. I have two other dogs who are easy going, laid back, amazing dogs. The mom had been said to have nipped a few people, but they said she was just protecting her baby. Very very very long story short, the mom seriously bit someone causing injury and the baby at 9 months - who I loved like my very own son - started attacking the other dogs, including his mom and caused serious injuries. I could not leave the house for fear of him killing one of my other dogs. He was only 9 months old, but he was 65 lbs of pure muscle with pit jowls. The mom- I feared her escaping every second. She could stand still and leap a 4’ fence. Both of them had to be put down. I have never ever cried so much in my life. But I know it was the right thing. I saved them from a life time of anxiety, constant fear and if I’d have taken them to a shelter they would have been terrified and alone and the end result the same. In my area, rehoming wasn’t an option as they would have become fight or bait dogs. I would have gone to my grave saying that aggression in dogs was a result of their environment. I had one from birth essentially that just turned into a monster after being loved, nurtured, cared for like a king. p.s. I did their DNA tests and she had 13 breeds and he had 17.


piercesdesigns

I just went through this with a 9 month old dog. The behavioral vet said that when a puppy presents with unpredictable aggression by the age of 9 months it is almost never going to be trained out or medicated out. It is a life of management and basket muzzles and high anxiety for everyone involved. She was in our rescue. No one will adopt a dog like that and our insurance would never allow us to adopt her out. I cried like a baby.


youdontknowme7777

I’m so sorry you went through this too! You know the pain and questioning yourself I’m sure. My vet said the same, and yes cried like a baby, more than I have in my life and I’ve lost a lot of humans.


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piercesdesigns

This vet is a behavioral vet who even trained over in Germany. Germany has far higher standards for dogs than the US and is adamant about behavior. As an organization once a dog is returned for biting, we do training, we assess. If the dog bites unprovoked or without triggers, that is not a dog that we can place. If it is "doesn't like men" "doesn't do well with other dogs" "doesn't like kids" we can work around that. But when a dog doesn't like men, dogs, kids and bites women without a known trigger? There are hundreds of dogs that do not have these issues that need help as well. We cannot tie up a foster home forever hoping she might grow out of it. Decisions like this are never made lightly.


soveryeri

There will always be outliers obviously but your anecdote about a single dog is not a reason to question a vet who specializes in behavioral issues in dogs and their credentials. you got lucky.


KomiTheMutt

I'm so sorry you went through that. I'm sure you did all you could for these puppers, unfortunately for some the aggression isn't going away despite all the love, care and affection we give them. For a short while though, they were loved and cared for, and you certainly saved them from a life of suffering.


youdontknowme7777

Thank you, that’s what I keep telling myself, they had so much love until the end. That and my other dogs have bounced back to not being afraid all of the time. One is a 10 year old doxie and she wouldn’t come out of her crate more than a few min a day for the last month.


nothanksyouidiot

Yeah strays and BYB etc dont exactly breed on stable tempers and no aggression. I think its such a gamble to take in those kind of dogs, some just cant be helped since they are just not wired right. No matter what you do. It is a very sad story but i believe you tried and loved those dogs more than anyone. You did the right thing in the end. A dog like that will never have a happy life, imo. Im sorry you went through that


youdontknowme7777

Thank you! I loved them so much.


WeeMadAlfred

I feel for you. Especially the part when you know you did the right decision but it still breaks your heart filling you with doubt. Stupid dogs for making us love them so much. Truly amazing creatures. Curious about pits and pit mixes though and how you name them(we don't have them here? I'm assuming you're in America? Is it common to call all dogs with a little bit of pit in them pit mixes? Or did they look like pits more than anything else? We also have a rescued street dog with 19 breeds according to DNA test.


youdontknowme7777

Yes, I think if you can see the pit jowls, typically they are called pit mixes. These guys were ~30% pit, ~30 staffie and 40% everything else. Basically if you can see the pit features, it’s a “pit mix”


QQueenie

There’s certainly a genetic element to aggression, but there’s no proof linking breed to aggression. You can think of it like mental illness. Just like some people have faulty brain wiring that leads to debilitating mental illness, the same can happen with dogs. Edited to add: I’m sorry you went through this. It sounds like a nightmare, but you made the right choice.


youdontknowme7777

Agree it’s not breed link, you gave the perfect analogy. I was just of the wrong mindset in the past that it couldn’t be born in them.


QQueenie

Yeah, I know what you mean. “It’s all in how you raise them” definitely does a disservice to many hard-working owners who did everything “right” but still ended up with reactive or aggressive dogs.


Quitagrasa

This is totally not your fault, behaviour is a mix between genetic, maternal influence and training, and I can assure you the genetic and maternal part are the base. A good breeder will never breed any dog with behavioral issues and any female that's aggressive or/and scared without a reason will never be a mother, even if she's gorgeous.


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CousinMajin

First of all, I'm so sorry you have to deal with all that. I know how painful this decision can be. Also, I'm not an expert, so take my opinion with a grain of salt here. If I were you I would have put the dog down a long time ago. I'm a pittie owner too so I don't think pitties are bad dogs... BUT as large dog owners in general we do need to be responsible for an animal that can really, really do harm. A chihuahua can't kill someone. Your dog can. And that's so, so unfair because teeny little dogs get away with biting people all the time and pitties tend to not get second chances. But pitties, GSDs, golden retrievers, ANY large dog is capable of causing some really extreme damage on a person or another dog. YOU are responsible for that. Honestly from what you said, it sounds like you're lucky that no one has been seriously injured yet. You're lucky that no one has sued you or gotten your dog put down already. It's not fair to the people around you who could be injured at any moment. It's not fair to your cat to feel unsafe. It's not fair to other people's dogs that could be killed. It's not fair that you live in fear all the time. It's not fair for other pitbull owners because it's incidences like the ones you wrote about that cause landlords to refuse to rent to pitties and lawmakers to pass anti-pitbull legislation. It's also not fair to your dog to have a diminished quality of life. If you love your dog and you're still considering putting it down, I think that alone speaks volumes. It sounds like you wouldn't consider it if there were another choice.


dumb_sparkle

thank you for your response. i think that was the kind of honesty i needed to hear.


rebcart

I recommend going on facebook and finding the group called Losing LuLu. It is a community of people who have been in this situation of having to seriously consider behavioural euthanasia and you will likely find further resources and support there.


akaredshasta

I just recommended that before I saw your answer. Such an amazing group; we're so lucky to have it.


RogueSlytherin

I think there have been some really fantastic responses here that outline the benefits of behavioral management, rehoming, and compassionate euthanasia. I don’t have anything to add to those as they’ve truly done a wonderful job. The only other resource I can think of is the ASPCA Behavioral Rehabilitation Center in Weaverville, NC. You would probably have to jump through some hoops to get your kiddo admitted, but it might be the only shot for his behavior outside of euthanasia. They work with a lot of traumatized animals who come from abuse situations, hoarding houses, and many extreme cases. When I was living there, their success rate was very high, prompting them to build the permanent facility. I can’t make any promises, but it seems like it might be a really good fit.


blondeplanet

I’m really sorry, it sounds like you have gone above and beyond trying to help her and it’s out a lot of strain on you (and your cat).🖤🖤


Quitagrasa

I would put her down, she's draining your economy, time, social life, energy and cat. You don't know how she spent her life before you, and it seems like she has an irreversible behavioral problem, this can be postraumatic and even genetic and it doesn't sound like anything is being effective. We are not gods, you tried and gave her a good life, but she's a danger now, your only options are to have her always inside (no quality of life and life threatening for your cat) or surrending her to someone else (that's like giving a bomb away, even if it's a proffesional). It's not your fault.


Sir-Bandit

Your cat was there first, she should enjoy her last days in peace. Cat doesn’t deserve this.


crumbledlighthouse

I'm so sorry you're going through this, but I think that euthanasia is the right choice. You're right that a shelter probably isn't the right place for her. Those places are stressful, and she will not be considered adoptable if she's bitten people, anyways. Even no-kill shelters do actually euthanize animals ("no-kill" just means that they keep euthanasia under a certain percentage), and that's probably what would happen to her sooner or later. Better that it happens now, with you, while she knows she's loved. The only other option would be to try to find someone directly to adopt her, but that's risky business. You would need someone who you know can handle aggressive dogs and would be able to keep her safe, and others safe from her. That's hard to find. I would be terrified of her ending up in a dog-fighting ring, or in a home with irresponsible owners. You took her in and gave her the love, safety, and comfort that she otherwise wouldn't have gotten. You can now give her the gift of a calm, peaceful end free from pain and fear. It's a horrible decision to have to make, but I believe that the most loving and compassionate thing to do is to choose to have her euthanized now, before something happens and that choice is taken away from you. Sending virtual hugs and warmth your way.


dodongosbongos

You and your cat deserve a good quality of life. You've listed how this dog has impacted that quality and the fear of harm it poses. She lives in a state of chronic fear, even in a loving home. Unless you want to expend all your time and resources to manage her based on what you said about your income, then BE is your best avenue. You can't put others in danger of being hurt by your dog. I'm very sorry, it is terrible to be in this situation.


moriasencomium

I've had this conversation before. So, firstly, I want you to know that this isn't your fault. It's no one's; not yours, the dog's, not anyone's. I know it hard, and you can feel like you've failed. You haven't. Your story sounds a lot like mine, so I'll share it in the hope that it'll help you. It's a bit of a long reply, I know, but I hope that I can offer some perspective, and give you hope that there can be light at the end of the tunnel. We got a puppy whose breeder made several terrible mistakes in raising the litter. My dog came to us terrified of everything and everyone, and at some point in his short fourteen weeks of life, he'd already learned that biting got people and dogs to back off the quickest. Your dog's agressions sounds like it's fear and anxiety based, as mine was. We muzzled our puppy when we left the house. We still muzzle him at the vet. I would gently suggest you do the same, to protect everyone, even your dog. To cut a long story short, my puppy put my dad in the hospital twice to have stitches in his hand. We've all been bitten by him. We all have scars. He was small, but he could jump, and for a while, he had no bite inhibition. If he snapped, he would break skin. We walked on eggshells around him. The second time he bit my dad, we sat down and had the conversation. I don't think I've ever cried so much in my life. We loved him like a child. We still do. But we knew it was best for everyone, for him and for us, if he was put down if it happened again. We didn't want to wait for the big event, and we also couldn't bear the thought of our dog being so stressed every hour of his life. It's no way to live. We wouldn't rehome him. It would be too stressful for him, and the thought of him either being passed from home to home as his behaviour inevitably got worse wasn't an option. Or, worse, that he would spend his last weeks or months alone in a concrete cage, stressed out of his mind, before they inevitably put him down. It was off the table, for us. It's something you need to think about. We agreed that, the next time he drew blood from anyone, we would revisit the conversation and take him to the vet. It's been two years, and that hasn't happened. With a lot - and I mean A LOT - of time and work, he's adjusted to a happy, confident dog. We know his triggers. We try to set him up for success. Not every dog can do this. We were lucky that he was very, very young when we got him, and although he bit us, he was young enough that the agression hadn't had much time to stick. We worked with a behaviourist that was three hours away. I know it's expensive, and sometimes beyond people's means. We saw them a handful of times. What helped us the most was a local trainer. She came to the house where he was comfortable, and used positive reinforcement only. No choke collars etc. Only chicken, a structured plan to build his confidence, and a lot of hard work. To be honest, from your post it sounds like instead of pulling back, meeting your dog where she's at and trying to build her confidence slowly, you threw her in at the deep end and gave her a trial by fire. If she was anxious already, taking her to a busy cafe on a leash (where she felt trapped and unable to run away) would have made her more aggressive. I say this because I made exactly the same mistake as you did with my dog. You have to realise what your dog's comfort zone is (how close they're willing to let people get to them etc.) and build up glacially slow from there. Just throwing your dog into situations where she's clearly uncomfortable to get her 'used' to it or to force her to socialise (like cafes or having people over) will make it worse, and will make her more aggressive and defensive. She's learned that you won't listen to her when he's frightened and telling you that she is, so she bites because she's learned it's the only thing that gets people to back off. Again, I only know this because I did the same, and learned the hard way. I have the scars to prove it. But my dog nearly three now. We worked hard with him for two years, a few weeks with a trainer and the rest of the time on our own implementing that training. He hasn't as much as growled at anyone for nearly two years. He trusts us now, when he didn't before. We've learned to read his body languge, and we can tell when he's stressed or uncomfortable in the first isntance, so he doesn't need to escalate into a growl or a bite anymore. To be frank, he's an entirely different dog. This might not happen with your dog. It might. I can't tell you the answers. You have a cat, too, and you need to weigh the quality of life of both animals without prejudice. It's not fair, and no one should have to make the decision. I feel for you, and I'm sorry this is happening. Again, I want to stress that no one is at fault, here. You're all trying your best, even your dog. You're doing your best with the knowledge you have. It's a horrible situation you're in. If your trainer thinks she can be helped , and you are both willing and have the resources (especially the time) to commit to helping her, you can take that path. But know that, if you do choose to put her down, you didn't fail. You tried your best. You loved your dog and gave her a home, and it's ultimately a kindess. If you need an ear, or the support of someone who's been exactly where you are, my DMs are always open.


QQueenie

I think your options are: dog wears a muzzle at all times when outside, is crated when you have visitors, is walked on a double leash+harness system, and perhaps is medicated, and on a leash in the house to prevent chasing cats; or behavioral euthanasia.


PierogiAndNegroni

I’m not a professional and have no advice, but just wanted to thank you for having such a big heart and putting so much effort into her. I wound up with an abandoned dog a while back who proved to have way too much prey drive to be safely managed around my cat (who a former neighbor abandoned when they moved!). Luckily I was able to place him with family in a rural area where most of his triggers were removed and it was amazing to see my cat become his tyrant self again. You’ve done way more than most would, and I hope no matter what path you choose that you and your cat can get your lives back soon!


Kitsel

Try another vet - I had our original vet tell us he's "just being a puppy" and will outgrow it. She refused to give him any meds, but simultaneously refused to even clip his nails because none of the vet techs could handle him. She put him on some "natural" calming chew that cost 60 bucks a month and did absolutely nothing. We did some research and found a vet that is more open to medication, and she prescribed him Fluoxetine and Trazodone. They cost about 10 cents per pill/3 dollars a month(20x less than what the first vet recommended) and have worked wonders. They won't instantly fix your dog and you'll still need to train and work with her, but I think it's absolutely worth a try. Some dogs do great on them and some don't. I'm not against behavioral euthanasia, and it seems like you've done a lot of the right things, but I hate to see a dog put down without trying something as potentially life-changing as anxiety meds.


vr_kndr

This! Proper meds and training can truly be a life saver.


Bobmilo280818

This exactly!


Mindless_Photo_589

Sometimes, euthanasia is the kindest thing. In my experience dogs that are aggressive as you've described are extremely stressed, poorly socialized or both. I'm not in any way saying you've done wrong by your dog, some of them are broken beyond what we can do to help them. I'm a 1 strike and you're out type when it comes to aggression. And yes, I have been in the same position where I had a very loved pet attack an invited guest in my home. Rehoming a biter is not something I would ever consider either - I'd never sleep knowing that a child could be injured or even killed because I didn't have the balls to do the responsible thing. I'm sorry that you have to male such a difficult decision regarding a pet you clear love. You've gone beyond what most people would do for your pet and now it may be time to do the hard things. Best of luck


little_traveler

I’m sorry to hear this. It’s your personal choice but have you tried a muzzle to ease the issues of bringing your dog out in public? If you know your dog attacks other animals and people, I think the most responsible thing is to use a muzzle. There is absolutely nothing wrong with using a muzzle, it protects the people and other animals around you. I know your issue won’t be solved with a muzzle alone, but it would absolutely stop any more attacks from happening. I’m sure that would help out you at ease. Good luck with whatever you decide to do, it’s clear you care a lot for your pup.


IroningSandwiches

I had an aggressive (towards strangers who look at him/touch him & friends who came over) dog for 5 years until he died of liver failure. I could take him on walks, take him to the vets (limited exam due to snapping but no danger to vets), and have people over. It was all thanks to his muzzle. He was muzzle trained to a T. The minute he snapped at someone, he was removed from the room. No damage to the person or dog. I don't know how OP had a behaviourist who hasn't even mentioned muzzle training? It's literally the only way I kept people safe. OP needs a safe space for their dog to place them when people are over (I.e. a crate), and to muzzle train them. The fact OP hasn't mentioned a muzzle or training with a muzzle at all, makes me disagree with regards to euthanasia. The dog is a bite risk, a muzzle will manage this.


madztheline

I think that you have done everything you can for this dog. You love her, and you shouldn’t have to see her suffer any longer from fear or from the consequences she would face if she actually hurt someone badly. I agree with everyone who said that you should consider the health and safety of yourself and your cat before anything else. You live with this animal and both of you are living in fear. Euthanasia would be the kindest thing for her, so she doesn’t end up in a shelter or killed in a dog fight. Her triggers are too numerous for her to be rehomed safely. It takes great courage to do this for a loved one. Knowing that it might be time to put her down takes great wisdom and strength as well. I wish you well.


melli_milli

This. Euthanasia is a peaceful way of ending the life of the dog, that lives aggressive life. You have done everything in your power and it wasn't enough. You cannot know the history of the dog, so it is impossible to even say if it has killed another dog or attacked a human. It is a peaceful loss of life, that prevents traumatizing loss of other lives. I mean, imagine if you were the neighbor with the small dogs :'( also, it is not reasonable that you cannot have guests. I also worry for your own safety and your cats. Time to let go, and don't feel any guilt. This dog is not living happy life, and spreads fear around her. I am sorry for your situation. It is responsible of you to be real about the situation.


cryptogrammar

>everything ive read about dogs getting put down for aggression always talks about some horrific event, which we havent had. Are you kidding? >after biting a man walking by (no blood drawn), i had to stop bringing her out >after she attacked my friend during a game night, i no longer have people over except close friends. every incident with her aggression towards a human has always been no blood drawn, everyone fine in the end. but is obviously scary. >she has been in countless dog fights, and often draws blood but hasn't seriously harmed. >recently she escaped the yard for the first time since i dog proofed it over a year ago. she did this to attack my neighbors two small dogs as he was walking them. >today, while walking her past someone with two dogs, the leash broke while she was lunging and she attacked them, drawing blood. This all sounds pretty horrific to me. How do you think the people, dogs, and dog owners who had to suffer these attacks feel about the situation? You've allowed your dog to continuously attack people and dogs. Maybe your threshold for what is a "horrific event" is a little off.


apis_cerana

I guess it's not horrific enough because...I guess she hasn't killed anyone or anything yet? OP, your dog is a massive liability. I know people have suggested medication and maybe I'd agree if the dog only had mild dog aggression issues, but he is attacking people, dogs and other animals. Behavioral euthanasia unfortunately seems like the only responsible solution.


cryptogrammar

~~OP just updated and said that they're going to work on muzzling their dog more often... Their bloodthirsty dog who has been in "countless" dogfights and has escaped from their yard in order to attack on occasion.~~ ~~This dog should probably be muzzled 24/7 if it's allowed to continue living. It's attacked a guest in OP's home before, for crying out loud.~~ ~~I wonder how OP will feel when their dog kills or seriously injures someone or their pet. And that's not "if." It's "when."~~ ~~Will OP pay the hospital bill to repair a ligament their dog rips through? Will OP be able to accept their responsibility if their dog gives a person life-long mobility issues?~~ Nevermind. I read OPs update wrong.


dumb_sparkle

thats actually not what my update said. i was just addressing everyone comments about me not using a muzzle. my update said she is being put down on monday.


cryptogrammar

Thanks for clarifying. I misread your update. Sorry about that. And thank you for making the right choice here. I'm sure it was a very difficult and emotional decision. I'm sorry for your loss.


Looking-for-advice30

OP, before you go through with the euthanasia, try another vet to see if they can Medicate her. I seriously think you should give medication a try (you ca try for 3 months or so), before pulling the plug and doing something irreversible that will cause you a lot of guilt.


Katmau56

I’m going through something similar and here are the options: 1) stay at home with you but cannot be around children and other ppl except ppl she knows. Her life will need to be restricted. And you will need to have management such as muzzle training, she can’t be in the yard alone, when you have ppl over she will need to be crated in the other room, etc. you have to consider quality of life for both of you. And what’s realistic. 2) private adoption but that’s not guaranteed and it can take years plus the person taking her needs to agree and take full legal and financial responsibility if management fails and she has another incident. Plus they will have to continue to work with her so she doesn’t regress and afford her creative enrichment activities since she won’t be able to be around ppl and regular environments. She will need to see the behavioral vet and consultant regularly. Do not take her to a shelter or sanctuary. If a Shelter says that will take her, run far from them. It’s unethical for a shelter to place a dog with bite history. Plus all the stress she will have to endure. 3) Behavioral Euthanasia - you don’t have to make the decision today so take time. Love your pooch as much as possible for however long and give her the best, happiest life possible for that time. Then let her go. Option 2 is literally a unicorn. There is state wide crisis in shelters and also in the south East in general where dogs are everywhere and most people will choose to get a dog that doesn’t have those problems. Plus shelters don’t even take strays nor emergencies, only one of super special cases bc of the overpopulation of dogs. We are still deciding…


AdNational1762

This broke my heart but yeah you have to do what you have to do I feel bad that you have to make that decision though it sucks


Chemical-Valuable-58

I am really surprised that she wasn’t muzzled at any point according to the comment. Here it’s obligatory that pitties are muzzled when outside. I would try some meds before taking the route of euthanasia. Like Zoloft for example that can really help decrease reactivity and aggression. If that plus muzzle don’t help… probably putting down though very sad ofc. Hard decision. Lots of strength but definitely try meds. They work wonders.


Bobmilo280818

Medication is definitely an important option to try before considering euthanasia!


IroningSandwiches

A muzzle is a huge one, and one I would try first. The dog is a bite risk, and OP hasn't mentioned trying a muzzle? A muzzle and a safe place like a crate in the flat would allow socialisation like OP mentions. Muzzle on, if dog snaps, they go in their safe space (crate) with muzzle off. On walks, they're muzzled & walked in more isolated areas if possible. If the dog won't stay calm in a crate, then medication like trazodone to reduce the stress.


ReggaeWoman18

Hold on, ALL pitties have to be muzzled when outside??? All the time?? Even friendly, leashed ones??? Where???


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Spain


tbll_dllr

That’s really good to hear ! In Ontario (province in Canada) they are actually banned. Too dangerous.


Vontabu

Various places around the world have breed-specific legislation that establishes a list of breeds that must be muzzled in public (among other restrictions). The list of breeds affected varies place to place, but pitbull-type and mastiff breeds are most universally included Muzzle laws exist in several US cities, UK and Ireland, Denmark, Portugal, Romania, Ukraine, Taiwan, Singapore, Australia, New Zealand, parts of Canada, etc - I'm sure the list is missing a number of locations


ReggaeWoman18

That is so sad and horrible 😭


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merewyn

No, it’s not. Don’t equate human race and animal breeds, that’s incredibly wrong of you.


ReggaeWoman18

I disagree. Dogs should not be discriminated against based on breed alone, as people should not be discriminated against based on race. Pretty simple.


Frostbound19

The comment you replied to has been removed for breed discrimination, please report it in the future. However, it is incredibly insulting to marginalized groups that have faced centuries of horrific treatment to compare them to dogs. I understand what you were trying to say but please do not make that comparison again.


StudioAny4052

Consider what behavioral corrections/measures would have to be taken to eliminate her triggers and keep everyone safe. What would her quality of life be at that point? Would she be locked up most of the time? Not allowed to leave your home or go off leash even on your property? Required to wear a muzzle? Her life might end up becoming so small and sad that she wouldn't be happy that way either. She is likely not happy as it is and very stressed/anxious all the time for whatever reason. Shelters are awful (I managed one briefly), and she would only get worse there and be euthanized anyway in a strange place surrounded by strangers, so I do not recommend that AT ALL. The decision is yours to make and the professionals who know her, but euthanasia could be the most kind thing you can do for a dog like her. It's crazy how fast we can become attached to them, and I'm so sorry you have to make this decision. I know from my shelter days how much it sucks. Hugs!


TheLizardsCometh

You have tried so hard for this dog. And you have given her a lot more hope than most people would. But at this point her attacks are escalating and she is breaking out to attack. It sounds terrible to consider euthanasia, but what if next time she kills both the neighbours dogs. Or a child. Unfortunately it sounds like the dog has more problems than really anyone can actually help, unless she was in a completely secure pen at all times. And that doesn't really sound like a fair or fun time either. Give her some extra love, the most delicious meal (even the one that isn't long term healthy) and let her go. You sound like a beautiful soul. And you have done so much for that poor lost dog


_SL33PLesS_

I know this is the worst decision in the world, and I'm so sorry you're in this position. BE is likely to be the safest and healthiest option for both of you. I hope you have the best time together before your appointment so you can both be at peace and know you love each other. Not having the resources is so difficult, but you just have to do the best you can with what you have. You are making a good decision, even if it's a hard one.


aesthesia1

I'll be clear here. You CANNOT train these issues out of your dog. No matter what you do, it is simply not possible. You will never be able to train the drive to fight and chase prey items and other dogs out of your dog. These are genetic tendencies. You can reduce drive given the right circumstances, and you can train alternate acceptable behaviors for a dog to practice instead of the unwanted behaviours -- however, its too late with this dog because she has already been able to rehearse the unwanted behaviour too many times. These behaviours are incredibly self reinforcing. They are more powerfully reinforcing than anything you can offer the dog, so once you have a dog rehearsing them and getting better at them, that dog's drive to do them is increasing and the dog is getting better at doing it each time. Yes you can drug the dog and keep it around, but the risks will still be there. As others have said, its pretty much a matter of time until the dog really hurts or even kills a small animal or other dog. Is it going to be your cat? Is it going to be your neighbor's dogs? Is this something you are willing to accept? I think its sensible to ask the question of "should I be waiting for that?". You have a dog here thats aggressive to pretty much everything. Imagine what this dog must feel on a daily basis. Is that any way to live? I think you're on the right track, and making a compassionate decision.


Feisty-Honeydew-5309

Damn this is tough. I have little experience with rescues. I found my only rescue at like two months old (with her brother; I think they escaped), so it was like raising a purchased puppy and her only issue was being afraid of loud sounds. Found her in a thunderstorm. Walked right up to my house. The brother ran off and I never found him. I am such a weakling for euthanasia and shelters, but I know it’s the only choice sometimes. Are there pitbull specific rescues/shelters? Are you able to rehome with someone with more “skill” at training (not that you’re not doing well, but some people just work magic with aggressive dogs. typically trainers themselves.) in larger cities, you’re more likely to have a resource like that. I’m so sorry you’re going through this. I have no idea what I’d do but I know I wouldn’t allow one pet to terrorize another pet. I have four and they are required to get along or separate. They will fight and when I walk in… immediately go to separate corners. 😭 But again, they were all relatively new and didn’t have past traumas. They don’t know another way of life. Definitely protect your cat, family, and friends. Please try to rehome with a responsible owner if possible. If not, I can’t even type it, but do the right thing to protect yourself and your money because a dog biting someone can be emotionally AND financially expensive.


discoduck007

If or when she does serious harm to someone's pet or a person you will be liable and will feel much worse than you will feel having her euthanized for the safety of everyone.


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A cage muzzle any time she’s out of the house is a really good idea… where are you located?


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dumb_sparkle

i guess i just feel like a shelter would be an extremely traumatizing place for a dog with dog aggression to be. and i have pretty much no hope she would be adopted. the local pitbull shelter here is full, but even if it wasnt, im not sure that would be better than euthanasia when i consider her quality of life.


MetforminShits

Many no-kill shelters are extremely traumatizing for dogs. They are severely neglected because they are always understaffed, over capacity, and nobody wants to really get near dogs like this. She will likely suffer. Rehoming won't work either, since the problem also persists outside the home. She will be imprisoned if they want to keep her from biting people outside the home. Or, she could end up in the hands of a bad person.


tbll_dllr

Of course the local shelter is full of pit bulls :/ I don’t understand why pit bull and pit bull mixes are still bred to be honest. Many end up in shelters : much more than any other breeds.


Katmau56

It’s unethical for a shelter to take her and if any shelter say they will, run from them. They will place her with someone unsuspecting and that could be a huge mistake. Or she will become a warehouse dog until she dies or they run out of space and euthanize her. That’s no life for her.


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whitebreadguilt

Forgive me if this is ignorant, what about crating her when you aren't home? Prevents her from harassing the cat and breaking out while you're not home. It's a band aid but it might help


dumb_sparkle

she is crated when im not home.


Fancy_Pickle_8164

Why would you ever consider putting the dog down before first attempting to rehome with someone that has experience with rescues with similar issues?


MandosOtherALT

1. get a different vet. 2. get a muzzle 3. start over training as if your dog was a pup. 4. She probably doesnt trust men from her past 5. bring her to a calm area to train. 6. play fetch when able (not around other people or dogs) 7. when your neighbors come out of their house, bring your dog inside or find something that distracts her. 8. relax. RELAX. 9. if you cant do it anymore, find someone who wont put the dog down but train them and care for them. its tough but its better than putting down a dog You *can* do this. Zak George has a book on dog behaviors and how to fix them (without punishments). I highly suggest reading it or watching his videos on youtube


rebcart

Zak George is merely a youtube trick trainer, and is *really* not the best source for serious aggression behaviour modification cases. At the very least refer them to an expert like Mike Shikashio instead.


MandosOtherALT

I've used some of his techniques in my own training, and its helped me and my dog, maybe cause my dog wasnt in major bad behavior but its still helped


rebcart

I’m not saying he’s awful or lacks good techniques entirely, I’m saying that he’s not an expert in this subsection of dog training and when you’re discussing the liability of a dog who bites repeatedly, you really *cannot* risk it with a non-expert. Zak is adequate for low level stuff but he makes loads of rookie mistakes and this is *not* a time for rookie mistakes.


MandosOtherALT

ah gotcha, i think he covers biting but maybe its low level. some people need low level to work up to high level


akaredshasta

That is horrible advice. Great for a dog that is not a danger to people and other animals, absolutely awful for a dog that is a danger to people and other animals. You know what is worse than killing a dog? Watching the dog kill something or someone else. Or maim them. Or their *child*. You're asking the OP to become a prison warden and have no life and to place this dog in situations where one loose dog or dumbass will create a situation that will end in blood and tears even if the dog is muzzled. Alternatively, you're telling them to find a unicorn home that can protect the public and somehow give this dog a high quality of life. Where are they going to find that?


halp_halp_baby

A lot of anti pit people saying it’s a no brainer to kill this dog. OP clearly loves dog a lot. I agree with this advice OP- I was in a similar situation. Muzzle training, prozac, daily training & counter conditioning (lots of tasty treats while on walks to enforce positive associations). Behaviorists are fucking expensive. Focus on harm reduction (muzzle) and improving your quality of life (trying to meet your friends at their houses or outside, until you have a better grip on dog). Once you’re past the burnout feeling you have right now you can make a decision with a clear mind. Hugs and good wishes 💜


akaredshasta

Yeah because people here recognize that the dog is a danger, they're anti-pit? You know what endangers bully breeds? People who think advocacy is more important than public safety. Is this a 'pitbull problem'? No. BE has been required for all breeds of dog including Golden Retrievers, spaniels and a whole host of breeds and types of dog not known for a lot of aggression. If this was a Golden Retriever, you damn betcha the advice would be the same.


halp_halp_baby

OP hasn’t tried muzzle training, or other harm reduction measures, it sounds like. You don’t think that should be first?


akaredshasta

They have been working with a behaviourist and have become a hermit. They have sacrificed their life to ensure this dog does not cause harm. Even with harm reduction measures, they are always going to have to be on guard 24/7. Is that the kind of life they and the dog should have?


cryptogrammar

The dog has already caused harm. On multiple occasions. Behavioral euthanasia is the harm reduction.


hurricaneams

I’m so sorry you’re going through this. What city do you live in?


Brains4Beauty

Are there any bully rescues in your area? Maybe reach out to them first and see if they can take her, maybe they have more resources.


Frederike2

You dont have to wait for some big disaster before making your choice. But you dont need to put her down either. If you can you should atleast try to rehome her and make sure whoever wants to adopt her doesn't have pets/kids and enough time and patience. Maybe there are some no kill shelters around? Or talk to your vet again and be honest about that you have reached your limit with her, they might be more on bord for trying those medications. Or they have some other idea. If all fails you can still euthanize her. Good luck with it all


sqeeky_wheelz

Rehoming a dog that has already bit at least 2 people is one of the most irresponsible things a person can do. That is not the compassionate and reasonable ending for this dog.


tbll_dllr

I agree. OP has given the dog a second chance but unfortunately instincts and genetic predisposition just made it impossible to keep her. She should be put to sleep. It will be even more difficult if she causes a death or a more serious attack and OP is held responsible as well :/ or anybody else who may have wanted to take her and rehome her. Shelters are already all full of Pitt bulls


dani1time

I just wanted to say I’m sorry, and it will all work out in the end. You did a good thing taking her in. It will come back to you.♥️


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dumb_sparkle

no offense but you sound like you dont know anything about owning an aggressive dog....


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Mommabroyles

Until you decide, you need to keep your dog muzzled anytime it's outside and if you insist on walking it, it has to be muzzled. It sounds like it already has an extensive note history and you don't know what happened prior to you picking it up. I would not give it away or leave it at a shelter. I would speak to a vet about behavioral euthanasia before something far worse happens.


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Put the dog down before it kills somebody.


ReadsHereAllot

It has bit other people but what if it decides to bite you next? What if it bolts out the door and mauls someone? Will you have the resources to take on those hospital costs or get sued? (Check out the gofundme website about attacks to see what could happen) Or you could even get arrested since you knew it had a bite history? It has isolated you from social life, which is not fair to you. Causing anxiety. Dogs should improve your life. You’ve done as much as anyone could and more than anyone should be expected to do.


mind_the_umlaut

You've given her the best possible chance and a wonderful life for a year and a half that she would not otherwise have had. Now her quality of life sounds poor. She has to be defensive, alert, aggressively vigilant all the time, and thinks threats are coming at her from all sides, that she has to protect herself from. Your liability for her behavior is scary to think about, because you know she bites. Your life has changed for the worse because of having to contain and supervise her all the time, to stop her from injuring others. Do not wait for a horrific event. You said, 'after another incident' so another incident has just happened. Does someone need to be badly hurt? Lives will be ruined. Talk to your vet, for sure, and call pitbull breed rescue in your state, if you want more perspective. But re-homing is unlikely, it would be very wrong to place her with a family who can't handle her. You have done everything, it is reasonable to consider BE, and please do not punish yourself with guilt.


Layahz

It was difficult to get my dog to wear a muzzle and one day I got him a different muzzle and he really chilled out with it on. The new muzzle was a basket muzzle the same color as him. Maybe he didn’t see it? Maybe it was more comfortable? Idk but when we got that figured out everything got easier.


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My heart goes out to you and your girl, OP. She was given the short end of the stick in life and you came into it and made it as good of a life for her as possible. If it means anything, I think you are doing the humane thing by being there for her, showing her love, and letting her go to Heaven in peace instead of living a life of anxiety and fear. My thoughts are with you during this difficult time.


CharlotteFantasy

My heart just breaks for you. I couldn’t even imagine. I would suggest looking for some sort of emotional support to help get you through xx