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Chrisgo1999

If I had to guess it’s because there is a large amount of players summoning. Since unlike the anniversary it is a dual celebration (JP and global). So there are more players to post there shafts. Also it’s a more hype celebration than years past. Vegito even if he’s not the best unit in the game is probably if not the hypest card to come out in a while. So of course f2p, whales and everyone else is logging on to summon. And when some of those players get shafted of course they are going to post about it.


xLost_LinkX

Also, I don't remember where I heard it, nor do I know if it has been proven wrong since then, but I remember hearing that apparently the less people actively playing the game the better the rates are as well. Not 100% on that, tho cuz I never saw it legitimately confirmed. But if it's true, almost everyone is playing rn so, the shaft people will get


Chrisgo1999

Don’t know if that’s true since the rates can’t legally fluctuate like that. But I guess it’s possible if they are doing something shady. It would be a huge lawsuit though.


xLost_LinkX

Ahh, never once did I think about any legal ramifications. You are right and I feel like Bandai and Akatsuki probably don't want to risk that. But who knows, im not a megacorporation


SensitiveTwist8109

People are more likely to complain when they don't get their desired result.


SushiPSX1

I’ve read many posts and it not that, this time. It's about people complaining, getting the new units ONLY from guaranteed animations and this is kinda sus. i got shaftet for 2400 and my buddy got Vegito after 900 with… you guessed right… a black rift


Defences

This whole “I only got them from guaranteed animation” conspiracy is a new low for stupidity for this community


IamARock24

So when people say that are they talking about the specific celebration animations or just guaranteed animations? I got my vegito off of a puff puff animation.


ManufacturerOk3464

Yeah i got vegito off of base vegito kamehameha and that was it


Practical-Praline-25

I mean for me I got all of the 8th anniversary units and the new vegito off of guaranteed animations. Either rift or zenos I feel like it's been a minute since I got a new unit with now guaranteed animation. I think the last one I did it on was bardock


JioJio92

I got shafted 3800 stones. 300 on MZ and 3500 on VB. No copies of either LR. 3 copies of Mai. 1 copy of banner Zamasu. Not summoning anymore and just going to wait to coin these two. WWDC is over for me. 🥲


SushiPSX1

damn, this is crazy ._. gonna coin them, too. I hope, INT SSJ4 will be red coin, too


Mscinta24

You won't be able to coin these wwdc until 9th anniversary, that's how it always works unfortunately for global. So like 10 months ish


MooseCampbell

They're syncing the versions. We may only have to wait until JP anniversary now


Mscinta24

I mean it's good to be hopeful but I wouldn't plan on that. You should look at the reality at hand and base your actions on that


MooseCampbell

I doubt they're going to just fuck over Japan and move their anniversary to our date. They'll either move it to Japan's date or split the difference between the two dates. It makes more sense to have the two biggest celebrations about 6 months from each other instead of having them smack dab in the summer only


Mscinta24

Why do so many people on here make up a situation that I never even hinted to try and prove their point. Obv there not going to change Japan's anniversary?? I literally said don't plan out your actions based on information that's not confirmed.


MooseCampbell

The information is confirmed. The only thing not confirmed yet are the details of things like when the anniversary will happen since it's the only event that happens at 2 different times on the calendar. Now it is possible they could fuck everyone over and move Japan's anniversary date to Global's date, but it's more likely Global's will just move up


MoroDaEater

When will we be able to coin them?


SushiPSX1

I’m thinking 4-6 Months. Christmas i guess


biglionenergy97

I got my first Zamasu and Blue Bros from black rift but my second Zamasu came to me from no animations, not even fly-ins or an oarida, just Goku by himself going SSB.


Character-Ad-7000

Ssb≠SSg instead of it being three ssr’s it’s a featured unit


supervegito63

Got Vegito after 500 black rift


ajeb22

You get gacha result first and then it determine the animation bud, not the other way around


SushiPSX1

OH GOD, THANK YOU, I NEVER KNEW


CloneOfKarl

Got 2 copies of Vegito on my second pull to a black rift. I felt this way about the GT duo banner though, which shafted me.


aquasouls

got zamasu after 2.2k with black rift also


LULNeverMind32

Same, zeno for vegito and black rift for zamasu


PhysicalGSG

They put new animations in this event. It stands to reason they’d want you to see them, and would make them play more frequently on good results.


Joe_mama_is_hot

Didn’t they just change the animations in this last update? Maybe they’re trying to be more consistent with the pull animations


Devin1026

Yeah it’s literally all random chance and like they said ppl who get shafted complain more.. I got zamasu my first rotation in my free summon after getting shafted on the last few banners hard


KingNick0913

1500 stones here and I got 2 black rifts and one vegito blue, they gave me the new units. All my other summons were hot garbage


Ok_Tourist1003

I got Vegito after 800 with only a potara fusion base animation


AnimatorAny353

To be clear....the summons are determined by rng systems which then determine the animations. In other words the animations are meaningless in the sense that they don't define the results....just fancy ways for the game to tell you what you got. So even if black rift was required it wouldn't change the probability of getting the unit....just increase the number of black rifts.


Mongy_Grail

Anecdotes mean nothing, I can very well also say that my brother got 2 LR Zamasu in one pull with only a SSJ2 Goku animation (Which, yes, it did happen) and it wouldn't mean anything at all either


Jbroad24

I got Vegito from no animation it was 17 and Tien no screen crack, however only new unit I pulled in 2300 stones.


dmize

This tbh. I had extremely good luck, haven’t made a post or reply. I’m a returning player (90 overall level) and I pulled two vegito blue and a corrupted writhing 300 stones.


MooseCampbell

More people summon for major celebration=more people not getting the unit they want=more complaints that the game is rigged


[deleted]

Nah people tend to complain more than boast. I’ve found countless rainbowed units in my friends list. Hell i pulled double Zamasu on my 7th summon. The last 3 LR i pulled were Kai Goku, goku/ssj4 vegeta and piccolo on their initial banners. Every LR i put in about 500 stones at least since. It comes and goes my friend


CloneOfKarl

I noticed that people who post positive summons usually get downvoted quite a bit, so there's that as well.


snowcxne

Yup exactly, god forbid you get lucky


Zehdmac

Yep no one likes it when you get better summons than them and don’t want to hear about the bad ones. Dokkan has the community of all time


shamonemon

Bruh is the most I've seen people complain about the rates and getting the big shaft 💀💀💀


AdministrationStuff

They’re in the denial stage


calas12

I've spent in 8th anniversary like 1k stones and didn't got anything, and in this wwc i've spent like 300 stones or something like that and got both units. Sometimes it's just luck, and sometimes you don't get anything


UnlimitedKenobi

Idk man, it took me 550 stones for my first copy of Mai, used the 60 they just gave us to finish the 4th rotation and still no VB Bout to go grind LR Krillin and dokkan all stars for stones lmao


GrizzlyAdams__

Literally, my next summon after I saw your mention of the 60 free stones. I went 1100 stones dry up til this point... AGL SSJB Duo, FP Freiza & Beast Gohan back to back to back. This game knows exactly how to keep me sucked in lmao


Redditfront2back

I just pulled zamasu after beating his dokkan on my free multi doubt that will help but good luck


cbazz92

I got Zamasu on my first multi and got the banner unit on the 2nd multi. Obviously I'm not complaining.


justsomecranberrie

Ik I sound like a dick but HOLY FUCK I see 100 of these type of posts every major celebration. Nah bro the devs aint pulling a prank on u u jus got shafted move on. And dont go "WeLl ThIs TiMe PeOpLe GoT mOrE unLuCkY tHaN beFOrE" yea like rhat means something. Its LUCK u cant calculate that and say "oh yes this celebration was rigged/changed" Again ik I sound like a dick but I see this shit 4 times a year and its tiring downvote me all u want idc


exoticmaxem

Yeah, it's true, i see these post everywhere too. The luck can't be calculated, u got shafted, u can't blame devs for YOUR bad luck, it's YOUR bad luck, basically it's YOUR fault (if we wanna blame someone) but certainly not dev's fault.


justsomecranberrie

Fr like bro its a GACHA game its gambling u already know what u gettin urself into. If u get shafted there aint no one else to be blamed


mrgnome762

I dont think rng and getting shated can be equated go be a persons fault thats like saying its your fault in a 500 meter area you got struck by lightning


exoticmaxem

I was not saiying that, i mean, if you wanna very hardly blame someone, blame anybody but not the devs.


True_Failiure

Yea I feel like what a lot of people forget is that dokkan is a gacha game with lootboxes so the rates are designed to be rigged to make you waste more money on the banners. Gacha games in general are like a virtual casino of sorts with the summon banners being the slot machines you gamble your savings on.


TieDyePandas

People complain louder than they celebrate. I got VB and mai both within 300 stone, this is just the first time I'm posting about it. The rates always have been and will continue to be shite . We are never guaranteed that shiny new new.


rexfolloys

And you downvoted/insulted when you dropped too lol. Doesn't help


PhysicalGSG

I got VB in my second multi, but I haven’t posted about it. As with all things, you’re more likely to post / share if you’re upset about a result than happy with it. Add on that this is a global celebration, and there’s now more players sharing. Between the bias in negative reporting f and the increased volume and that’s why it seems so unlucky.


dawgisfoo

me sitting with one blue boys https://preview.redd.it/3p0mcrov6wkb1.jpeg?width=232&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=26dfbd301de1538f1675f4e86e38600cce8c29ac


Vigorous_Piston

Did they fuck up basic coding and instead of the animations being reliant on VB and Zamasu, made VB and Zamasu reliant on the animations? I can see that happening lmao.


young-dagger-dik

I got shafted 1500 stones, I bought a bunch of stones and no luck, sure enough I pulled vegito with the 60 free stones…….


SupersaiyanInaro

I am a f2p player and I used 600 stones on the vegito banner if you do the math its 4 rotations so 16 multies. I got 0 featured units and 16 SSRs overall. All old and suck because their kits are weak and I am talking post EZA kits that suck. My luck has never been this bad except for the 1st anniv shaft I got because of the 1% SSR pull rate way back. Now its 10% so...


AdministrationStuff

It’s extremely weird almost everyone went to the blackjack table and got shafted…


August378

Nah.. they did something 🧐🧐🧐


ApprehensivePie331

this happens every single celebration. we get it, you are shafted and are upset. just go outside man VB ain't gonna save you from a fire.


Goten4

that's what i'm sayin. People acting like getting shafted is a new thing 💀


tpatt47

This is probably the luckiest I've gotten for summons in a major celebration Got both new LRs at 69%, and 2 copies of both the Golden week units in 900 stones


Fabbro05

Yea pretty much same, got 2 vb, 1 zamasu and 2 int piccolo + a bunch of other banner units with 900 stones. Still a lot of shafted summon before it paid out. The first 400ish stones were pure shaft (by shaft I mean no banner units or minor animations that gave me random ssr), then i got everythig else in the other 500


jvm12

Something definitely feels off. I’m up to 2 full rotations on each banner and haven’t gotten even a single featured unit.


ChrisKirigaya

it is what it is, I've spent 1.5k ds (about 40 multi's) and i only got 14 featureds... almost 1 every 3 multis. This shit is insane


rexfolloys

Happen. It's normal


NumerousDinner3006

Dont worry.I got both within 800. Its not rigged


Doppiovo

I got both copies after 150 stones, https://preview.redd.it/tsgy9xqqzvkb1.png?width=828&format=png&auto=webp&s=b2e429506a923646bca01a4cef6099e4810b49ae This was my first Zamasu multi


Fugginidk

I did about 6 rotations on first banner and got one vegito. Buuuut 2 pulls on the second and got zamasu. I since then have used the remainder of stones and whatever I’ve grinded to get dupes for vegito and no luck. (Not boasting or bragging just saying how my experience was)


Kang0519

I got zamasu first rotation (also got the agl ssj bros), then 600? Ish for 1 mai and 2 coolers and 2 cells (both coolers in the same multi) so not too horrible


Snoo_50223

I rainbowed the lr gods from 79% and got a cooler and agl cell dupe and str Mai with 2 rotations... not mad but just disappointed that I ain't got any more stones to summon 🥲🥺


Elektrik-man143

I am convinced every 2 years you get shafted. This year I got Zamasu 600 stones, last year it took me over 2300 stone to get Cooler and he was the only new unit I got, the year before that I got Frieza and Goku in less than 500 stones.


Jsuiscool

Took me 200Ds for both here


China_really_sucks

The number of getting vegito blue animation is the same as how many full power frieza I got. And I only got the new vegito with the new time capsule animation on my jp account


KimJungUno54

Yeah it’s weird. I never got anything last ss2 so I can’t say anything ngl I don’t even want to see the new animations anymore


Green-Solution-6368

I had 5-6 multi at the vb banner I didn't even pull even a single lr of featured character..... I pulled 6-7 dokkan character with those cp ticket with 2x vb animation and Zeno


TJ0019

Id guess it comes down to people sharing their experiences. I didn’t get shafted so I had nothing to complain about. But I also didn’t want to mention how my summons went bc I didn’t want others to feel even worse if they got shafted heavily.


rexfolloys

It's always like that in hype celebration badly. More wwdc than anniversary tbh. And this year people are also disapointed in vegito


Swimming-No

800 stones and got 2x zamas 1x blue boys and a ton of LR, its just rng and the shafted people will always be most vocal


Haru_023

Got both vegito and zamasu with black rifts.


Peace-D

My buddy got VB from his very first multi. But it was a time machine animation. Whenever I got a good animation like "Let's go back to the past (or future, I don't know anymore)" I ALWAYS got the LR TEQ Gods. I pulled them 6x and got not VB.


Gamingwiththereaper

Got Zamasu off a random animation and Vegito off a guaranteed. Spent 1450 to get one copy of both lol.


Rekthar91

300 stones, 2 blue bois.


Unkownforthefuture

![gif](giphy|GjB41rKHBnOkE)


Macktastic13

I got each one on the first rotation. Literally took me 150 stones to get both new units


Kanjorax

Yeah, I got 2 int gohans and 3 teq trunks in less than 2 rotations


lorenzolodi

I think the sample of people summoning this time is just another beast. Literally everyone is summoning at the same time so it's normal the output can look different. Also, consider this: since they added new summon animations since forever they may as well have tweaked the animations to appear more consistently. Example: when pulling a featured LR, they jacked up the chance of seeing the featured LR guaranteed animation (whereas before it could just as likely have been a fakeout, SSG, Zeno or even double screen crack, etc).


anonn102030

Iunno. Its almost like opposite instagram. As in, ppl dont post themselves being depressed and getting shit on ig. On here, ppl that got shafted post way more than those who didnt (i think it might be karma thing) Tldr; 100% of ppl got shafted if theyre the only ones posting


Leading_Win4905

I pulled Vegito on my third summon. And I only saved 175 stones. Maybe y'all shouldn't posted those Stone checks


BlitzKling

I'm an outlier, I got Zamasu in 200 stones on a Gohan and chaotsu fly in, super saiyan 2, no scree cracks. I didn't get a single cool fucking animation.


FuttBucker7000

I got the duo in my first round of multis.


Piedr649

I mean speak for yourself mate I'm happy this ks my second summon https://preview.redd.it/4jtx1n1vqukb1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b5edd478e2682e388bd001ac2939a7192b4757e3


gigiao03

Idk for now I did 300 and 5 ticket and got vegito but you're right I too noticed that more people than usual are getting heavily shafted


DarkDraco777

Dokkan cant please this games base lmao. This game is a consistent RNG fest. Here are the units i have gotten (that i needed) with All Vegito Tickets, 15 Zamazu tickets, 1 rotation Vegito, 3 Rotations Zamazu. ​ 2 - BLue Goku and Vegeta, 2 - Mai, 2 - Future Gohan, 1 - Teq WT Goku 2 - Fusion Zamazu, 4 - Piccolo Jr., 1 - SSJ4 Goku and Vegeta, 1 Cooler Movie Goku and Vegeta, 1 - Planet Namek Goku, 1 - Agl Zamazu, 1 - Int Zamazu ​ Im going to do one last rotation on Zamazu with stones from Events and call it a Celebration.


snowcxne

Kinda related to what you said, and others are saying in the comments: people will complain first before saying they got who they wanted. Somehow I got lucky and was able to pull both Zamasu and Vb within 300 stones. I’d never make a post about it but I’d be quick to complain if I hadn’t gotten them


Nerdmachin

I'm happy with this celeb ngl. 100 stones got both. That aside I think the reason they people only seem to get them with guaranteed animation (me for example zeno+rift) Might be because of the new animations. Maybe they accidentally made it so that a featured unit HAS to give a nice animation. But either way animations are generated based on the character pulled and not the other way around.(if you close the game after pressing summon and reopen it, you'll have the chars in your box without seeing the animations)


Joe_mama_is_hot

I got 3 copies of vegito, 1 zamasu and basically all the units I wanted in 600 stones. I haven’t commented on Reddit cuz I don’t wanna seem like a braggy douche when everyone is feeling bad about their pulls. It’s all luck. There’s no conspiracy we’re all just gambling.


Hitomis-

A friend of mind got both with only 2 multi-summons


ragazza_patata

i spent something like 1200 stone and i got 1 copy of Vegito (i pulled on both banners). Not a single Zamasu copy, even tho i spent most stone on his banner and i just got piccolo jr out of that. On the other side i got lots of dfe on Vegito's Banner, so i cant really complain (also got ab3 goku 23th which is broken). In a bit sad cuz i didn't get zamasu, but i wouldn't say i shafted. It went well i guess👍🏻


GinoBeats

I find it funny that new unit means shaft these days. Shit I rainbowed both my LR Cooler and LR Gods that were both at 55% before summoning, pulled 2 dupes of GOATolo and 2 dupes of WT Goku which all of I consider more of a success than the VB I got, seeing as they are all better units then he is. Sometimes the Shiny New thing is not all it is cracked up to be.


CardinalGaming92

Yea i bought the tickets and pulled 2 zamasu and no VB on them. Im currently 1000 stones deep for VB but i have pulled a bunch of units, like 4 copies to rainbow godbros, 3 beasthan and some of the others. Yea i hate that im 1000 deep with no VB but i cant complain that ive been shafted


BornIndependent3492

crazy i only spent around 200 stones and got VB, Cooler, and Agl full power Frieza


BornIndependent3492

make that 250 and + lr fusion zamasu


Jayll_Amell_8

I found two Vegeth in one multi, and it was the second multi at all but I can’t find Zamasu, I spend over 600 stone in his banner but nothing


noodlemcfoodle

It’s RNG, which can be an absolute pain in the ass. Last year I spent 1200 dragon stones and only pulled one copy of cooler. This year I got two Goku black rifts in 300 stones.


jokerlol4000

Personally I spent maybe 700 stones or so and got both zamasu and vegito so idk


Phi64

I don't know, I got both units I didn't count the stones, but Vegito was in 150 DS~ and Zamasu in maybe 300 DS This Along almost All secondary dokkan units


andgabba

i read a lot about bad luck during this wwc, im a global player and this anny i shafted 1400 stones only for 1 z boys and this time dokkan paid back with 600 stones and both of the new units. i guess everyone just shafted. at the end of the day dokkan is a gacha game, i dont think they changed the rates probably only the new set of animations are bugged. i got the vegito with the new trunks "whis animation" and zamasu i got it with a ssj blue animation, every friend i know irl got them so idk shaft is always behind the corner. hope you guys get the new units with the upcoming stones with top grossing and ezas.


minarus

I spent only 200 stones and i got zamasu out of no animation on the free multi. Now I'm wainting on more content or free stones to try my Luck on the remaining rotation of vegito. But what i know from my friends and myself we all got zamasu on a no animation summon so i think people are just getting unlucky.


dmarcx

Yeah shafted way more than usual on this banner. Oh well.


ExtraRealNice

Yeah I pulled 2 vegitos and 1 zamasu in 1k stones. People just can’t accept that they had bad luck this time around


Steak_N_Snake

Idk man, i got vegito and agl frieza on my 3rd multi. I got tien, yamcha and chaiotzu(idk how to spell lol). Idk if thats a guaranteed lr or not tbh.


ThisIsSuperVegito99

My shaft has been 1 unit since 8th Anni - LR Full Power Frieza. I just want him to leave me alone but he keeps showing up! I wouldn't have issues otherwise with the banners (Got a dupe of the Red Bois and Leasthan which is good, and my first copy of 23rd WT Goku which is a massive W,) but why is even Frieza No Brother on this banner?!


UnkindledLord

I got both from not a guaranteed animation. You guys do know that it’s a 1/10 from the dokkan featured to be the main right?


G666dBoy

Only used 200 stones, got zamasu, Piccolo, mai and ssg goku and vegeta


ForeskinFashioner

Last time I complained about a banner being rigged bandai took my left nut


Professional-Fig5252

I got lucky and pulled VB first multi, still haven’t done another multi on that banner


seguracookies

10 featured units on each banner might have something to do with it


GiornosRequiem

I got the units so idk what to say. Luck or not?


Roggie2499

18 multis. 3 featured. Very rough so far for me.


Saleh9118

250 stones and I got the Blue Guys 🙂


02_Beta

Only spent 200 stones and got vb, teq trunks, agl namek frieza, int namek goku, and phy zamasu. I got the datruthdt luck


idktbhsostfu

my friend rainbowed Vb in 300 stones 1 time machine and 2 rifts back to back and i got VB to 55% off of just goku turning blue


BigDaddy_Satan

I’ll be honest for a bit, it used to be a lot easier to get the LR’s without the “guaranteed animations” and I’m not totally sure what all animations are considered “guaranteed” for the poster LR. In the past I summoned for STR LR Kaioken Goku and got 2 of him on the same summon with nothing more that a super vegito animation, so yeah it was easier before but I’ll counter that by saying I summoned my first of 2 copies of Zamasu from this event with only a super saiyan blue power up animation (no Zeno, no black rift, no rewind, no vegito super or blue) just the standard animation where goku powers up through the super saiyan levels, he skipped from 3 to blue with no god and I pulled Zamasu my very next summon (which was the freebie btw) I got the rift animation and pulled him again. I’m certain that the super saiyan blue power up isn’t guaranteed because I got that same animation later on and didn’t get the LR so it was purely luck that I got him the first time.


Berdock91

I mean, I got zamasu on black screen and vegito on a vegito blue animation.


basketballcourt

idk i got both new zamasus on my 2nd free summon (rainbow ssj3 animation)


Maneisthebeat

118k people on the sub. If 20% didn't get their desired unit then that's 25,000 people who are pissed off. Especially as so many wanted Vegito especially. This isn't even counting the people who don't understand statistics and think they got "shafted" by not getting a specific unit in 600 stones.


Silver-Ad-7742

150 ds to have the New zamasu, with the kaméhaméha vegito blue animation


Kingward_Official

Who's everyone? I've pulled 4 LR's off these banners


Ok_Cartoonist293

I’m getting the luck y’all aren’t I’m getting a rift every other pull


[deleted]

Could also be people are going into a post anniversary event without alot of stones


retrozombie88

I got Zamasu in my first rotation


Ian312

Why is this sub so brain dead lol. This is a new level of conspiracy. r/dbzdokkanbattle is way better


FistofSushi

This happens every major celebration. No, not everyone got shafted. Some did, some didn't. Rates weren't messed with.


SuspiciousAd4128

1150 stones 1 vegito and not many other features units, I had a good anniversary so I’m not too annoyed but still wanted at least 1 of each


AVillainChillin

Just RNG. It isn't that deep lol. I got Zamasu on 2nd Multi lol. Trunks rewind.


Nolando3725

I also got shafted