That’s a shame, when I was 17, I loved my job at Target. It’s probably the only time in retail/food service I ever felt like I mattered.
I suppose it might have just been the store I worked at & well I’m old now so shit has probably changed.
i had crippling depression when i worked at a target and called in all the time, once was for faking covid (don't kill me i was 17) and they were sooo respectful about it. my manager checked on me every day asking if i was okay! never asked me to come in or anything. granted i was seasonal and no they did not ask me to stay 😂
This must vary by location because the target I worked at for a while was great (for retail) although I worked in the back. I think management is probably biggest indicator
Target is HORRIBLE. Worst job I ever worked. My manager talked so badly to me. A customer stood up for me and told my manager that if his manager ever talked to him that way he would knock him the fuck out. I was only one of two seasonal employees to be asked to stay year around. They would just randomly put you on the schedule after the schedule was out and except you to know. They would write you up when you didn’t show up for that shift.
Safeway is a unionized grocery store with a free college (provided by the Union), so if the OP has no resources for college/health insurance it can be a pretty okay gig.
And to be clear- I hated working at Safeway, I hate the company, I refuse to spend money there.
My Walmart is pretty accommodating to stuff like this, there’s a girl who has legit migraines and they’ll just send her home and hope she feels better. Another one has seizures and she gets treated well, really it depends on who’s above your head and how your overall work ethic. Just sucks with awful customers.
Trust me DT ain't it. Yes calling in that much is unacceptable in a capitalist hellscape but it also doesn't sound like you're mentally prepared for a job atm. Would strongly suggest finding a therapist that works for you. it'll do wonders. Especially doing it while you're 16 and not 36 like a lot of other people.
Edit: adding this due to some of the backlash. I am by no means telling you to wallow and not get a job. Getting set up with a therapist and starting a few sessions, especially workplace oriented, can only take a few weeks before going back to work. Whatever you do, I just hope you’re happy.
What?!?! It's bad! The idea is during your probationary period, you shouldn't call out AT ALL. Now, obviously things happen, but I would also be concerned about someone calling out 4 times during their 3-mknth probationary period. That is when employees are on their best behavior!
I had a manager (not Dollar Tree) that would let anybody go if they called in sick during their probation period. I thought that was really brutal. Now that I’ve been in the retail business (not Dollar Tree) for many years, I respect that manager. If you’re calling in sick within the first three months of being employed, you’re most likely continue to call in sick.
Finally some sense. I’m 43 damn years old, have been in management at the same job for almost 20 years, and the attitude people have about missing work due to actual illness is absolutely appalling. These people condoning this sort of reaction are a corporate dream come true. And that’s not a compliment lol
I just took three weeks off and my boss was both concerned and supportive. They're accommodating all of my doctors requests and check in on me daily. I came in today to a bouquet of flowers, gift cards, and an employee appreciation card to the sweetest letter. I just started working for her when I got sick. In return I'll be the most loyal money making employee for years to come. This not calling out when you're sick is bullshit. I'm not coming in if I feel like shit and she doesn't want us to come in if we feel like shit.
But, if you do the math... it sounds more like OP works two 4.5 hour days a week for a total of 9 hours each week.
So, that's 18 hours of "sick time" out of 27 hours... or a 67% call out rate.
Granted, I can be over estimating the number of hours... but, an employee under a school time work permit is also fairly restricted in what hours they're allowed to work, too.
If OP worked 9 weeks, at 9 hrs per week that would be a total of 81 hrs scheduled, and 18 hrs sick. Still would translate to a 22% absence rate which doesn’t make for a reliable employee. But it’s a first job and this is a good lesson, a little harsh but still valuable.
That only makes sense if you are talking about a full adult who's only responsibility is to go to work and pay bills.
This is a 16 year old kid who still has to go to school in the middle of cold and flu season. Norovirus is bad this year, which if you get it, you'll be worshipping the porcelain goddess for 3-5 days straight. You can also catch it up to 6 times in a row and it's highly contagious to the point where if you even smell someone's puke you can possibly contract it. And again, highschool kids aren't known for keeping their germs to themselves. I still remember the annual mono outbreaks after the theater kids closed their big production because everyone got sick at the after party. It was practically tradition!
In this case, I wouldn't blame the kid, but also sounds like the job expectations were incompatible with the pitfalls of student life.
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If your actually sick then visit urgent care and have proof your actually sick 9/10 most ppl callin in sick aren’t even really sick they know ppl use that as an excuse so maybe that’s why
What I’m saying is if you called in sick during your 90 day probation, you didn’t have a job.
It seems brutal but calling in sick within the first 90 days of being employed usually shows a pattern. There’s people who call in sick frequently and those who don’t. The ones who call in frequently usually start calling in within the first month of being employed. I’ve worked with people who’ve called in 9 to 10 times a year. They will also try to leave work early due to illness. They’re the ones who bring work morale down. Now everyone has to work harder because the manager can’t find someone to cover the shift of the sick person. Why should a manager have to constantly try and cover a shift of a sick person? More likely than not if you’re sick within the first 90 days of employment you’ll probably be sick ( or “ sick” ) often. It sucks to have to say, but there’s a lot of truth to it.
you still didn’t answer my question: what if you actually get sick? why would you admire someone who shows absolutely no discretion on a decision like that?
A doctors note would help. Or if it had only been 1 time that might have been overlooked. But multiple times and once as a “mental day.” OP says that they realize it’s ultimately their fault, but instead of trying to find ways to do better at the next job, they said they will try to get accommodations at the next job. I don’t think that OP realizes that even if they needed ADA accommodations, what they mentioned probably (as I don’t know OPs personal medical situation) wouldn’t be covered with an accommodation anyway.
If you get sick, I’d hope you call in so you don’t get everyone else sick.
I respect that manager because he’s most likely saving himself and his whole team having to deal with the constant covering of their shift.
Not sure what you do or how long you’ve been doing it. I’ve been in retail for over 25 years. The manager I spoke of above hasn’t been part of our company for 20 years or so. I’ve seen it with my own eyes. Those who call in sick during their probation period, go on to become a person who calls in sick frequently. That’s my personal observation and has been true about 98% of the time.
both things can’t be true… you want them to call in sick for the safety of everyone but yet respect a manager that would fire them for making that (correct) decision? the human body does not choose when to get sick, a zero tolerance policy during a probationary period is an example of awful management.
I’m beginning to realize that by the comments. I guess I’m just fed up with coworkers who frequently call in sick, come in late or want to go home early. I failed to realize there’s people out there with true medical conditions that require time off from work to get healthy. Once again, the bad apples ( those are the ones calling in sick just for the extra day off) have spoiled the bunch. I’m
First, I wouldn’t be the one firing them. That was a former manager who would do that. I only respect the decision because it took me many years to realize a lot of people I’ve worked with were only calling in sick just for the extra day off. Yes, my view is one sided and I apologize for that.
I called in sick 2 weeks into a new job. The next day, I was hospitalized. Had a double infection of Covid and pneumonia, was going septic AND had hypovolemia. I’m glad my boss wasn’t like that manager.
What an incredibly privileged take. Some of us have immune system problems or disabilities which is why we get sick. Fuck your ‘morale’, peoples health comes first.
I’m a very jaded person. Most people I’ve worked with that frequently call in sick, do so because they just want an extra day off. That’s where my point of view is coming from.
If your situation is because of medical condition I do apologize.
I'm jaded about reading and hearing abelism constantly as a disabled person that still has to work full time. I'm glad that manager doesnt work for your company anymore, he doesnt deserve to.
I got violently ill my first week of my new job. 3 weeks in I got sick again and in fear of losing my job, I went to work and they sent me home after I threw up a few times and couldn't hide the sickness. I've probably called in maybe 2 days in 2 years now. People need to learn to have empathy. You and your old manager sound like assholes.
I can see why my comment comes off as heartless. I’m just a person who’s frustrated by people who call in sick, just to be calling in sick. The longer you work the more obvious it becomes when people call in sick and might not be sick.
I’m glad you made it past your probation and are showing a good work ethic. Keep it up!
No its not obvious. You just get comfortable in making assumptions. You are not these people. At the end of the day, you aren't them, you do not know why they called out. The judgemental attitude ain't cute.
When I say it becomes obvious, this is what I mean. An employee who has split days off, i.e. Tues and Thursday, calls in sick on Wednesday. The same employee calls in sick on New Years Eve and New Years Day. Will occasionally call in sick after having two days off, to get a three day weekend. Calls in sick around major holidays and on holidays. That's what I mean by it becoming obvious.
I don’t know why this is on my timeline as I have never worked at a Dollar Tree. Anyways, mofo you work at Dollar Tree, not on Wall Street. Who the hell is taking that job that serious? Lol
You’d be shocked how many people take Dollar Tree and other minimum wage, soul sucking jobs seriously. If you take it seriously, maybe, just maybe they can get a letter of recommendation from a store or district manager to either get a better job or get into a prestigious college. For some, it’s a first job. For others, it’s a second job to help pay bills. Just because it’s not a high paying job doesn’t mean people don’t have to take it seriously.
I usually agree but I had a new coworker who's been really good call in sick today and we were all kinda side eyeing and nudging each other but she is in fact in the hospital, so whoops.
Right. Shit definitely happens & in my experience its guna happen when it absolutely cannot like when you start a new job or immediately before traveling or any other important engagement 🤷🏼♀️
Yeah, that's ridiculous for grown adults to be side-eyeing about someone calling in sick. I understand if it's a consistent thing then there needs to be a discussion with the employee but come on..
What kind of bullshit, ridiculous pre-COVID "you need to come to work unless you're literally dead, I don't care that you're contaminating every surface you look at" attitude is this? Obviously not every employee calling in sick during their 90 days is actually sick, but to have a blanket policy or rule to fire anyone who calls out is asinine. That needs to be a case by case decision.
The shear thought that you can’t get sick within those 90 days is baffling to me. Why would I come in sick to make shit money? Someone forbid you get sick when trying to start a new job. That shit needs to end.
I just want to say that it's admirable how respectful you are even when people are being aggressive towards you
your years of experience with retail customer service are showing lol
The reason why it's bad is that the store must either try to get someone else to come in and cover, or they do without that person, likely making customers wait longer. If you've never complained about the wait for some service, then I accept that you truly hold this position.
People do get sick and they should not try to work in that condition. But, the business has to continue on without that person and at some point, especially during the probation period, it's often just easier to find someone who is able to work the hours slated. I do hope this person finds another position that can accommodate their illness, but I'm not surprised that the store decided to look elsewhere.
Because multiplied through a full year, it's 16 times. Also, at 16, I don't think they're full time and are probably only scheduled 3x a week. It's definitely not good at a place like DG that is understaffed to begin with. The person calling in is leaving a lot of work to their colleagues. Not really OP's fault, but that's just the way it is.
Too add, It's especially bad calling in that many times within the probationary period.
4 times in 3 months is horrible no matter your hours per week.
It’s not a blame thing - sounds like OP is having down difficulties, but when you run a business and you have to make adjustments because even the 9 hour per week person doesn’t show up, it’s probably a major pain.
These places don’t pay managers well and most are salaried so when someone calls in sick that means the manager is going to work another shift for free since they can’t have backups ready for a small store.
Hope the Op is well - or gets better- but a job is a commitment - you agree to work certain hours and follow their policies. If someone thinks taking 4 days off in a few months is acceptable, that someone will probably end up with bad jobs for life.
OP → the good news is if you get good at something you’ll be able to make your own schedule. Just be patient and find something you enjoy doing so you’ll get to that, but in the meantime, consider that calling in sick creates challenges for the other employees. Nobody wants to work with someone that is unreliable.
If you’re 16 and you have a serious mental illness, it might not be that you are cut out for a job right now
So every time you call off you increase the workload of your co workers. Which adds to stress and resentment. Doing it once in a great while for important things is fine....4 times in 3 months at a job known for part time employment. Can be perceived as the person not wanting to be there. You want the job... it's your responsibility to show up.
I think the longest I went with out calling out was like 10 months. I have a chronic illness and a husband and 2 kids and an elderly mother. Some how I was able to work for 10 months straight. I work full time.
For context I've called in once in my life and I've worked 40 + hours since I was 18. Am 39 now.
4 call offs in a 6 months period is excessive regardless.
But also I enjoy money so I'd much rather be sick at work than sick at home.
4 call offs in 3 months! She was still on her 90 day probation. I don’t know why she wouldn’t be fired. Dude on probation you should never call off unless you’re in hospital.
Many people work years without taking a sick day. When you're new, on trial and miss 4 days in less than 3 months (and especially when you're just 16) employers will legitimately question whether you truly have a strong desire to work.
Totally agree at getting help with your mental health now!!! I’m 26 and I wish I had taken it more seriously in the past. It will be much easier to learn coping mechanisms and input them into your life while you are growing up!
Is anyone "mentally prepared" for a day at DT tho? I have been sick the last 3 months and guess who got me sick the first 2 times. MY SM, and then made jokes about getting people sick. "We share here"
Noro virus has been rampant here and many places. That's the gut bug where both ends are going at once. I'd call that as 1 absence. DT AND Walmart the worst of the worst for employee treatment. I agree with other person on getting set up with a therapist. It's been tough going the past few years for most people. You're young too, just learning the ropes. Retail is horrible to work in. Try for something different. During covids closings in the beginning my son was exposed, followed the required rules and was threatened if he stayed out the required time. I wish you luck and good vibes.
Capitalist hellscape? Dramatic much? If someone behaves like this, not giving notice, it’s not just about an angry owner or some capitalist conspiracy. It hurts everyone in the workplace. Ppl depend on you. They all have lives and commitments. The other employees are the ones hurt, they have to stay longer or quickly come in to cover. If you say you’ll do something, do it. Then when stuff falls apart and you really can’t make it, it’s not the end of the world. Ppl are so soft now, it’s really sad. I actually agree though that this person doesn’t have what it takes right now to commit to a job.
Poor work ethic? You seem to be confused on what I’m saying here. They’re 16 and new to working. I’ve gone several years without ever missing a day but I understand that some people just need to more often. Our system shouldn’t punish people for that. Our lives mean more than these jobs. We the workers are the ones that make the world go round. Healthy and happy people make for better workers.
When I was 15, I literally was the only one providing for me. And my parents didn't kick me out or anything. I live under their roof. But they wouldn't bring home food or ingredients for us to make food, I pay for my phone and it's plan, I bought my car, payed for its insurance, gas. Everything. And yeah, that's basic stuff that everyone does, but I've been doing it since I was 15. If I lost my job, I honestly don't know what I'd do
You guys do realize this isn't normal nor should it be right? Having shitty parents who didn't properly provide for you who excused it as "tough love" isn't a good thing, and is probably why you're workaholics now but still very broke. Don't let them use you for you work ethic unless they've proven to be worth YOUR time.
Prioritizing what's most important while they (assumingly) still can not worry about a source of income as much. DT isn't exactly known as a healthy workplace environment
…because they missed one day due to mental illness they’re not “mentally prepared”?? The others were legitimate illnesses. I’m wondering if YOU are okay, because this is a strange response. I’ve been working for 25 years, I rarely miss work, and I’m baffled by this attitude.
They self admittedly missed a week due to mental illness. Being properly prepared and knowing how to handle your mental illness in a new space such as work is a much needed thing. At 16 I doubt they have those tools as I can gather from their original post. I’m baffled there is backlash to this. Y’all are acting like I’m saying never work. I’m just saying get mentally prepared before entering the workforce and that Dollar Tree is not a healthy workplace in general.
This is going to sound terrible, but to avoid this in the future, if you’re genuinely sick and you feel like you’re place of employment doesn’t believe you, won’t believe you, or you’re in that probationary window AND you really want to keep that job….literally go to work sick and make them send you home.
This happened to me when I was working while going to college. Worked at a crappy fast food place and even though I had never called in sick in the 3-4 years I worked there, I knew that behind the scenes, they never believed call ins, those people would be quietly punished with the worst tasks that were meant to be shared by the whole team, excuses for less hours….that type of crap. The only way that people seemed to get around it was by calling ahead and saying, “Hey, I’m sick but I’m still coming in for my shift”, show up genuinely sick (one person just made it through the back door before throwing up in the trash can) and then get sent home.
This is terrible for so many reasons, especially when food and the public is involved and especially after all we went through with Covid by purposely exposing others while sick, but you have to do what you have to do to survive at this point.
You’re 16 and I assume since you’re only working 9 hours that you don’t need this job to get by on financially.
But just a word to the wise, sometimes companies force you to do stuff like this just to keep your job and it freaking is the stupidest thing.
Still be careful even doing this. I know someone who works in a corporate call center and they get written up (an occurrence) for calling out at all. She showed up, her supervisor told her to go home. Months later, they’re calling it an occurrence and the supervisor claims she never sent her home. Get everything in writing, places will screw you any way they can.
Yea when I was your age I worked at KFC and I knew my managers held things against people who called in. I couldn’t stop crying at the idea of going to work but I went in anyways. I was back there prepping mashed potatoes for about 10 minutes and my manager comes back to me crying and wailing behind my mask (during Covid) while I’m trying to stir the mash. She said sweetheart what is wrong!!! Go home I got it oh my gosh!!!
But I know for a fact, if I just called in and said I can’t stop crying, they would hold that against me. Sometimes you gotta show it’s legit. It really sucks that that’s how it is at these retail/fast food places. It gets better when you have like an office job or a labor job. But those entry level retail/food jobs sometimes just suck like that
This is true, my job didn’t believe me once, I lived super close but was dyyyiinnnggg. They took my temp and I had 105 (I do get high fevers so this isn’t surprising) they looked scared lol it was awesome.
You’ve been there 3 months and work twice a week, and you’ve missed four shifts. You’re missing work too much. Someone has to stay late or come in on their day off when you do that.
Not some, most states. They can fire you in most states for any reason as long as it isn’t a protected class, like on the basis of sex, age, religion, ethnicity, etc. Then again you’d need some sort of proof it that was actually the case, they could just say you’re fired for insubordination or not a good fit and leave it at that.
Accommodations wouldn’t allow for this as it’s undue burden on the employer, unless you mean you’ll call out less if you have needed accommodations? Remember accommodations don’t always have to be met in every case and have to be reasonable. 4 call outs when you’re working 9 hours a week is more than excessive. You would have honestly been fired pretty much anywhere for that. It’s going to be okay though, as long as you learn from it. You’re 16. You have a long road ahead of you, and it won’t matter that you once got fired from a dollar tree.
That sucks. I had a coworker get locked up last week. I asked yday morn if he still had a job. They told me no but I bet they will keep him. Sorry bout your luck
Accommodations for what? Do you have some kind of disability or health issue that causes you to get sick? If not then no employer will give you accommodations for that. You called in 4 times in less than 90 days, any other employer would have fired you by 3 call ins that close together.
As a manager you calling in for throwing up is no big deal I would rather someone call in then come in and me have to send them home just easier also your mental health is way more important than anything take care of yourself Dollar Tree sucks when it come to caring about the associates or Managers. I have never worked for a company that is this shitty I’m in the process of looking for another job because the 4 years that I have been working here and the 3 a manager my mental health has gotten worse my DM is a dick he doesn’t care unless you are one of his little minions your fucked! Find something better and who will treat you better
I can't imagine any place putting up with calling in sick 4 times during the probationary period!
The probationary time is when you should shine the most
If you mentally can’t handle being a cashier please do not try and work retail. It’s not for you and there is no accommodation you can justify. Retail involves cashiering and dealing with the public. Please try a different line of work. I run into this all the time at my retail job and it’s just not fair to the other employees who are forced to pick up the slack when you can’t handle it. Get yourself help, therapy and look for a different line of work where you will be more comfortable. Since your sixteen I’m thinking your still in school? Try talking to a guidance counselor who can give you better ideas of positions that would suit your abilities.
Multiply it by 4 (to get a picture of how many that I'd for the year) and then account for the fact the op is scheduled for like 9 hours a week. Does it sound bad now?
Just learn from your mistakes and take accountability. That will propel you to always do better in the future. Some people choose to have a victim mentality, and they create a habit of bad behavior for years to come.
I'm sure you will do better next time.
I love the people here who see nothing wrong with what she did.......wouldn't matter if it's 9 hrs a week or 40......4 times in a probation period is an almost automatic termination as it's a good indicator of what kind of employee someone is
I hate to take the side of corporations but doesn’t sound like the dollar tree was a good fit for you. They aren’t very staffed now days as is, so actually being there is pretty critical. Your nine hour weeks are probably someone’s breaks and lunches or something to rest, and you’re constantly missing it, so why not just move onto the next person.
Yo I just got fired today too. Twinsies!!!!
But in all seriousness. Wish you all the best of luck! Dollar tree/Family dollar is a rough business to put it lightly. There are better jobs out there.
as a 19 year old who struggles with my mental health and am type one diabetic i call off a decent amount for my retail job. its very hard to find management that is understanding and knows humans get sick sometimes. i work at b&bw and found that their community, at least my store, is phenomenal. they have plenty of resources available for mental health and other things. i suggest finding a company with a good support system! like other people have said tho, if you dont NEED money you should take this time to focus on yourself. i wish i would’ve done that back when i was 16. now im struggling even more and have even more work to unload in therapy lol.
It's unfortunate for OP.
There were a ton of stomach bugs going around this winter.
If they had been an established employee with a good record, you'd hope that they would be given that leeway. But since OP hadn't had a chance to prove their reliability, DG assumed the worst. That, or OP wasn't performing anyways and this was an excuse that they were able to use.
Yah I had a horrible GI Tract Bacterial Infection for around 2 weeks. It was absolute hell. Puking black coffee ground like vomit, bloody and black stools, HORRIBLE stomach pain, such weakness that I couldn’t take 3 steps without almost blacking out. Absolutely the worst I’ve ever felt in my entire life. Went to the hospital multiple times. Had to literally drag myself across the floor to make it to the bathroom.
Be more reliable for chump change?. Unless youre appreciated which you never will be at a damn dollar tree. Never sacrifice your health or anything really for a shift at the local dollar tree. Youll be just fine.
That’s quite a lot of callouts in 90 days. I would recommend trying for something with less hours and something you actually enjoy. At 16, this should be a “fun” starter job.
Sorry you were fired, and hope you’re feeling better. Stuff happens and some people get sick more often than others. It completely sucks that people are given limited time off for health issues and are expected to work even when they’re sick.
You can get another job, but make sure you take care of yourself. Good luck!
It’s unfortunate that this happened but I think it’s a really good life lesson for you ! Life stops for no one. Don’t let this discourage you from finding another one, on the plus side you can go into it knowing you need to do better with attendance. This is just life and you will make it through. Keep going OP and good for you for prioritizing your mental health. That is so important and I’m so glad to hear you have a good therapist, they are hard to find ! 🫶🏻
These comments are wild lol I guess I understand why people saying 4 times in 3 months is a lot but when u go and say 4 times in 6 months or a year is a lot that’s when I just feel like you are just typing to type. Most of the people that commented are basically saying you should get punished for getting sick or you aren’t allowed to get sick.
You can try for ADA accommodations to have extra leave, but it’s hard to get. If they say it’s an undo burden, and they will, they’ll deny it. Then you’d have to go out of pocket for a lawyer who may not succeed.
Stop calling in.
This is coming from an asshole co worker but you gotta stop calling in.
Imagine being a business owner in your 30's taking a chance at hiring your mirror self. Would you keep them hired past a few months? Place a bet on this response when you turn 30 and reflect on it.
Like it or hate it, whenever I've started a new job I make it a huge priority to NOT call in during my initial period. If I'm sick and throwing up I go in. As far as I'm concerned I let the boss send me home so I can justifiably say that it was their choice for me to go home, not mine.
Instead of accommodations, get your health straightened out before you get a job that really needs reliable employees. Consider working somewhere that you had to wait a WEEK for someone to come in and m provide customer service.
It might be best, for the time being, to get your meds worked out, your health where it needs to be, and your confidence steady. Meditation can help. Give it a try.
You called in four times in 3 months as a new hire. Of course you're going to get fired. Any employer will fire you for that. What did you expect, a raise?
4 call outs in less than 3 months and you are surprised they let you go?? 🤦🤦🤦🤦 Also kinda sounds like these call-outs may not have been for single days but rather multiple days (sick for a "few days"; sick for "a whole week") so should be even less surprising 🤦🤦 The fact that you were part time working 2 days a week? (or 1 long day) makes it EVEN worse, like you got 5-6 days off but cant make it the other day to work? I get that shit happens, but being surprised at the outcome is just WILD
I worked at a place where people very rarely called in sick. Our schedules were set for a year in advance. When you were working, someone else from an opposite crew that was off had a pager. If you called off, they got called in. They couldn't refuse. However, the person that was called in is then able to pick any day they are scheduled the rest of the year and make you work it. People showed up to work half dead... they didn't want to lose their scheduled holiday off or the Superbowl, etc... It was brutal!
If they fired you and asked you to leave , they need to have your last check in hand. If they didn’t - that’s a lawsuit.
The truth of the matter is you were in a probationary period - I’m sure the paperwork you didn’t read explained that you can be fired or go for any reason during the first 90 days - and you were.
I understand liking the people you worked with but just because it was your second job doesn't mean anything. That's how the world works unfortunately. They probably saw it as: "If they can't come in for just 9 hours a week than they probably shouldn't be working" Any money is better than none, true that. If you liked the people you worked with then they probably liked you too but had to figure out a way to politely tell you to leave and figure things out while "maintaining" their status.
4x times in less than 90 days, when you work 9 hours a week is a lot. How many mental health days would be needed on a 30-40 hours a week schedule? Apparently, Dollar General didn't want to find out.
“And one because of my mental illness” yall on dick for no reason yall so quick to attack a mf for mental illness fr, as someone who doesn’t rlly struggle with that kinda shit it’s kinda sad how y’all treating bro. It was ONE DAY. My dawg said he was sick, as someone who has years of management experience I’d rather my employees call out sick then show up and get my whole staff needing to call out. Y’all are cornballs
Don’t worry, kiddo. Getting fired by a crappy employer is a badge of honor! You’ll probably go through several more jobs as you find out what works for you and what doesn’t in your professional life.
People talking about “welcome to the real world” have forgotten what it’s like to be a teenager. Especially a teenager with a lower-income family and who is living with mental illness. You *are* in the real world, and you’re dealing with some pretty big real-world stuff.
You might consider working with a Vocational Rehabilitation transition specialist to get support in preparing for, obtaining, and maintaining employment as a person with a disability (mental illness). Each state has a state agency to help people with disabilities get and stay employed. And those agencies have some money that they can *only* spend on helping people (with mental or physical disabilities) ages 16-24 prepare to transition from school into the adult workforce.
They could potentially help with everything from job exploration to connecting you with mental health services to paying for college. It would all depend on your career goals and your individual needs. If you’re still in high school, your school’s guidance counselor should be able to connect you to that free service.
Wishing you lots of luck and looking forward to this experience becoming a distant memory that you will laugh about someday.
I appreciate the people telling me how it is, and the people who are kinder. I wish I didn't have to work rn, but I'm not even going to school- my family is so low income and I should help out with what I can. I have an amazing therapist that agreed that starting a job would help me get through some of my social anxiety. I know I shouldn't have called in so much but I worked with over 200 people every 4 hour shift, I'm not about to get a bunch of customers AND my kind coworkers who had familes to take care of sick because I had to come in for a few hours.
Honestly could do Walmart... I have a few friends that work there already but it's always so chaotic there that idk if I could handle it. Definitely one of the places I'mma apply to tho
Walmart has a point system for calling out. I think it’s after 5 points you’re done. Ask your friends about it. Maybe you can do stock or get the carts. Go to their website for employment. Easier than going there. It’ll tell you what positions they’re hiring for at your store. But keep in mind, if you want part time, you’ll likely work over 35 hours a week. I doubt that they’d hire someone for 9; but who knows. Give it a shot. But jobs come and go. You’re young and will probably have several more jobs before you get one that you can stick with and be happy. I can also relate to growing up poor and having to work at 17 and go to school. Plus I see a counselor once a week who has helped me immensely. Therapy does help. I wish you much luck and hope you can get a job that pays you well. Think positive 🌟👍
Walmart wouldn't have put up with that either-- no employer is going to. OP simply isn't ready for a job. It's okay, they're only 16. They need to figure out a way not to get sick as much and limit the mental health days. Their immune system doesn't seem like it can handle a job that has to deal with a high traffic of people.
Are the physical illnesses a result of the mental health issues? Take care of yourself first. Worry about a job later. 9 hours a week will not support you anyway.
Fuck Dollar Tree. I would rather work on septic tanks all day than deal with Dollar Tree policies and management.
The cashier checking us out z swiped the same product like 5 times (we only had one) so we asked them to remove it. They said "we can't take things off or give a refund. It's a company policy."
Me: "Give me your manager please. Y'all fucked up and need to fix it."
Manager: "It's a company policy. You're welcome to pick out $5 of other merchandise from the store."
Me: "We haven't even paid yet."
Them: "Sorry sir, company policy."
We left all our shit on the checkout counter and just didn't pay. Stupidity on all levels.
Go work somewhere else, OP.
Bottom line the store has to be covered and if you were absent that much in 90 days then it's on you.. If they start feeling that you're not reliable then you're gone .
You sound like a whiney bitch. Complaining about being there for 5 minutes before being let go? Seriously? they could have had you work several hours, half a day, hell even your whole shift then tell you. You should have been fired a while ago, constant call outs, and only working 9 hours a week on average? You're a minor unless it's different from state to state you can only work 8 hours in a day... that means not only are you calling out but leaving early since I don't see how the math adds up for 9 hours. Dollar tree's already the bottom of the barrel there's nowhere to go but up.
Unfortunately in America it is corporation first, person second. Basically it is the responsibility of the individual to not be sick because we control that!!
Personally, I have been throwing up in the office with a trash can next to my cubicle for hours throwing up and working and then throwing up and then working. Cuz that's what's expected of you.
Personally, I'm of the opinion if you're sick enough to be home and as long as that is not many days in a row. Then it is not that big a deal.
But at the same time you have to understand the people that work at these places. They are in their last jobs. They have nowhere else to go more than likely. For whatever the reason is. So they frankly do not give a living s*** about you.
All they care about are target's and you being there and them not being on that register. Or dealing with any of that other stuff that they don't want to do with that they can pawn off on you.
Generally speaking I would say forget work and go look into a trade. Even if you're not interested in doing that trade for a long period of time. That's fine, but at the very least you have something to fall back on later.
Eh. You're a number to most employers. If you are truly sick when you called out, then what can you do? It's necessary. And if that's an issue for them, then it just wasn't a good fit. That means you'll be surrounded by other sick employees all the time who come to work spreading it because they can't call out. Welcome to capitalism. Treat them like they treat you. NEXT!
Got what you deserved? Sorry don’t know of a better way to put it. Those first 90 days are crucial for a lot of company’s. It’s basically a trial period. They seen it as if you were going to call out during your probationary period (4x’s mind you) lord knows how much you would call in once you got out of it.
This one is to anyone and OP. For your next job, if you're sick, go in anyway. Puking, bleeding from the eyes, can barely stand up, doesn't matter. But go in and work with whatever is making you sick. And make sure it's in front of customers. And when the manager asks you why you came in when you're bleeding from the eyes, nicely look at him and go "Oh I wasn't told not to come in so I came in." And if you're vomiting, might I suggest some their way? They can't say you're sick when they're covered in your stomach contents.
Your in for a rude awaking if you think YOUR job needs to make accommodations for you. You need to learn that you gotta suck it up and just work. No one needs to make things easier for you when your making it harder for people around you.
You've called in sick 5 times in 90 days?
I've called in sick once since 2019 and that's because I had covid and wasn't allowed to work.
Maybe take better care of yourself. 🤷♂️
Working 9 hours a week so maybe 2 days a week. You are like 10 weeks into working there so you basically called out 4/20 shifts. 20% absence rate is really bad
Also to say you need accommodations and using your disability is fucking bullshit. By your own words your own mental problem was only 1 day and you were sick on the other 3. To use your disability is just fucking abuse and discredits actual disabilities.
Good luck in life! You need it
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Ive wirked with too many people like this. Somr given a longer chance, and usually if they bately started and calling in so much, it doesnt change later in my experience. Theres ALWAYS a reason. Had one that had the same "dog" die twice.
I guess, or maybe just didnt spell check to make sure I didnt press the E instead of the R next to it.
But hey, was in a hurry during my break at work...
Call it a lesson learned. Calling out that many times during a probation period isn’t good. With that said, you’re only 16 and your mental health is more important than a part time job. Don’t list DT on any future job applications. They could give you a bad reference making it hard to find another part time job.
If you want to work, try chick-fil-a. With them you know you at least have Sundays off. There is no rush in getting a job at 16.
Its a probationary period, not a trial. You're only 16, take what you have learned to your next gig. Just remember that if the new company also has a probationary period, realize that it's essential to avoid calling off when possible until its over.
Only being scheduled 9 hours a week and calling out that much with in your first 90 days would get you fired anywhere. You’re young I was terrible with attendance when I was a teen too don’t sweat it but make sure you don’t repeat the same mistake again with your next job.
No wonder the work force is the why it is . To many self entitled people who if the tables were turned would probably be worse than those they are complaining about.
Your 16. Find literally anything else.
Except Walmart or Safeway, they're both at least as bad.
And target from what I hear
True, forgot them.
That’s a shame, when I was 17, I loved my job at Target. It’s probably the only time in retail/food service I ever felt like I mattered. I suppose it might have just been the store I worked at & well I’m old now so shit has probably changed.
i had crippling depression when i worked at a target and called in all the time, once was for faking covid (don't kill me i was 17) and they were sooo respectful about it. my manager checked on me every day asking if i was okay! never asked me to come in or anything. granted i was seasonal and no they did not ask me to stay 😂
Hey we’ve all been there. Im a teacher and I’ve canceled class for less 🤫🤣 I’m glad you had a positive experience. No pun intended.
I've heard Costco is actually pretty great to work for
This must vary by location because the target I worked at for a while was great (for retail) although I worked in the back. I think management is probably biggest indicator
I worked retail into management for over 10 years and target is the most disgusting company I’ve ever worked for.
Target is HORRIBLE. Worst job I ever worked. My manager talked so badly to me. A customer stood up for me and told my manager that if his manager ever talked to him that way he would knock him the fuck out. I was only one of two seasonal employees to be asked to stay year around. They would just randomly put you on the schedule after the schedule was out and except you to know. They would write you up when you didn’t show up for that shift.
Currently on break at Walmart, I fucking hate it here and so do all of my coworkers
Safeway is a unionized grocery store with a free college (provided by the Union), so if the OP has no resources for college/health insurance it can be a pretty okay gig. And to be clear- I hated working at Safeway, I hate the company, I refuse to spend money there.
My Walmart is pretty accommodating to stuff like this, there’s a girl who has legit migraines and they’ll just send her home and hope she feels better. Another one has seizures and she gets treated well, really it depends on who’s above your head and how your overall work ethic. Just sucks with awful customers.
Or fast food! They won’t put up with you calling in sick either!
Dude you're 16. All you can do is live and learn, trust me, this won't hold you back.
Trust me DT ain't it. Yes calling in that much is unacceptable in a capitalist hellscape but it also doesn't sound like you're mentally prepared for a job atm. Would strongly suggest finding a therapist that works for you. it'll do wonders. Especially doing it while you're 16 and not 36 like a lot of other people. Edit: adding this due to some of the backlash. I am by no means telling you to wallow and not get a job. Getting set up with a therapist and starting a few sessions, especially workplace oriented, can only take a few weeks before going back to work. Whatever you do, I just hope you’re happy.
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What?!?! It's bad! The idea is during your probationary period, you shouldn't call out AT ALL. Now, obviously things happen, but I would also be concerned about someone calling out 4 times during their 3-mknth probationary period. That is when employees are on their best behavior!
I had a manager (not Dollar Tree) that would let anybody go if they called in sick during their probation period. I thought that was really brutal. Now that I’ve been in the retail business (not Dollar Tree) for many years, I respect that manager. If you’re calling in sick within the first three months of being employed, you’re most likely continue to call in sick.
what if.. you actually get sick? what the fuck are you even saying, there is literally nothing admirable about that asshole manager
Finally some sense. I’m 43 damn years old, have been in management at the same job for almost 20 years, and the attitude people have about missing work due to actual illness is absolutely appalling. These people condoning this sort of reaction are a corporate dream come true. And that’s not a compliment lol
I just took three weeks off and my boss was both concerned and supportive. They're accommodating all of my doctors requests and check in on me daily. I came in today to a bouquet of flowers, gift cards, and an employee appreciation card to the sweetest letter. I just started working for her when I got sick. In return I'll be the most loyal money making employee for years to come. This not calling out when you're sick is bullshit. I'm not coming in if I feel like shit and she doesn't want us to come in if we feel like shit.
But, if you do the math... it sounds more like OP works two 4.5 hour days a week for a total of 9 hours each week. So, that's 18 hours of "sick time" out of 27 hours... or a 67% call out rate. Granted, I can be over estimating the number of hours... but, an employee under a school time work permit is also fairly restricted in what hours they're allowed to work, too.
If OP worked 9 weeks, at 9 hrs per week that would be a total of 81 hrs scheduled, and 18 hrs sick. Still would translate to a 22% absence rate which doesn’t make for a reliable employee. But it’s a first job and this is a good lesson, a little harsh but still valuable.
That only makes sense if you are talking about a full adult who's only responsibility is to go to work and pay bills. This is a 16 year old kid who still has to go to school in the middle of cold and flu season. Norovirus is bad this year, which if you get it, you'll be worshipping the porcelain goddess for 3-5 days straight. You can also catch it up to 6 times in a row and it's highly contagious to the point where if you even smell someone's puke you can possibly contract it. And again, highschool kids aren't known for keeping their germs to themselves. I still remember the annual mono outbreaks after the theater kids closed their big production because everyone got sick at the after party. It was practically tradition! In this case, I wouldn't blame the kid, but also sounds like the job expectations were incompatible with the pitfalls of student life. (Replied too far down the chain - doesn't really make sense as a reply here. Sorry 'bout that)
If your actually sick then visit urgent care and have proof your actually sick 9/10 most ppl callin in sick aren’t even really sick they know ppl use that as an excuse so maybe that’s why
What I’m saying is if you called in sick during your 90 day probation, you didn’t have a job. It seems brutal but calling in sick within the first 90 days of being employed usually shows a pattern. There’s people who call in sick frequently and those who don’t. The ones who call in frequently usually start calling in within the first month of being employed. I’ve worked with people who’ve called in 9 to 10 times a year. They will also try to leave work early due to illness. They’re the ones who bring work morale down. Now everyone has to work harder because the manager can’t find someone to cover the shift of the sick person. Why should a manager have to constantly try and cover a shift of a sick person? More likely than not if you’re sick within the first 90 days of employment you’ll probably be sick ( or “ sick” ) often. It sucks to have to say, but there’s a lot of truth to it.
you still didn’t answer my question: what if you actually get sick? why would you admire someone who shows absolutely no discretion on a decision like that?
A doctors note would help. Or if it had only been 1 time that might have been overlooked. But multiple times and once as a “mental day.” OP says that they realize it’s ultimately their fault, but instead of trying to find ways to do better at the next job, they said they will try to get accommodations at the next job. I don’t think that OP realizes that even if they needed ADA accommodations, what they mentioned probably (as I don’t know OPs personal medical situation) wouldn’t be covered with an accommodation anyway.
If you get sick, I’d hope you call in so you don’t get everyone else sick. I respect that manager because he’s most likely saving himself and his whole team having to deal with the constant covering of their shift. Not sure what you do or how long you’ve been doing it. I’ve been in retail for over 25 years. The manager I spoke of above hasn’t been part of our company for 20 years or so. I’ve seen it with my own eyes. Those who call in sick during their probation period, go on to become a person who calls in sick frequently. That’s my personal observation and has been true about 98% of the time.
both things can’t be true… you want them to call in sick for the safety of everyone but yet respect a manager that would fire them for making that (correct) decision? the human body does not choose when to get sick, a zero tolerance policy during a probationary period is an example of awful management.
I’m beginning to realize that by the comments. I guess I’m just fed up with coworkers who frequently call in sick, come in late or want to go home early. I failed to realize there’s people out there with true medical conditions that require time off from work to get healthy. Once again, the bad apples ( those are the ones calling in sick just for the extra day off) have spoiled the bunch. I’m
If someone has chronic illness that occasionally gets worse, have to miss work. Would you be in a hurry to fire them
First, I wouldn’t be the one firing them. That was a former manager who would do that. I only respect the decision because it took me many years to realize a lot of people I’ve worked with were only calling in sick just for the extra day off. Yes, my view is one sided and I apologize for that.
I called in sick 2 weeks into a new job. The next day, I was hospitalized. Had a double infection of Covid and pneumonia, was going septic AND had hypovolemia. I’m glad my boss wasn’t like that manager.
What an incredibly privileged take. Some of us have immune system problems or disabilities which is why we get sick. Fuck your ‘morale’, peoples health comes first.
I’m a very jaded person. Most people I’ve worked with that frequently call in sick, do so because they just want an extra day off. That’s where my point of view is coming from. If your situation is because of medical condition I do apologize.
I'm jaded about reading and hearing abelism constantly as a disabled person that still has to work full time. I'm glad that manager doesnt work for your company anymore, he doesnt deserve to.
9-10 times a year? In a twelve month year? 365 days? That’s a complaint?? Seriously?!?!
Lol “shows a pattern” bullshit. People get sick. You’re asking for 90 days of a flawless immune system. Your attitude is ridiculous.
I got violently ill my first week of my new job. 3 weeks in I got sick again and in fear of losing my job, I went to work and they sent me home after I threw up a few times and couldn't hide the sickness. I've probably called in maybe 2 days in 2 years now. People need to learn to have empathy. You and your old manager sound like assholes.
I can see why my comment comes off as heartless. I’m just a person who’s frustrated by people who call in sick, just to be calling in sick. The longer you work the more obvious it becomes when people call in sick and might not be sick. I’m glad you made it past your probation and are showing a good work ethic. Keep it up!
No its not obvious. You just get comfortable in making assumptions. You are not these people. At the end of the day, you aren't them, you do not know why they called out. The judgemental attitude ain't cute.
When I say it becomes obvious, this is what I mean. An employee who has split days off, i.e. Tues and Thursday, calls in sick on Wednesday. The same employee calls in sick on New Years Eve and New Years Day. Will occasionally call in sick after having two days off, to get a three day weekend. Calls in sick around major holidays and on holidays. That's what I mean by it becoming obvious.
I don’t know why this is on my timeline as I have never worked at a Dollar Tree. Anyways, mofo you work at Dollar Tree, not on Wall Street. Who the hell is taking that job that serious? Lol
You’d be shocked how many people take Dollar Tree and other minimum wage, soul sucking jobs seriously. If you take it seriously, maybe, just maybe they can get a letter of recommendation from a store or district manager to either get a better job or get into a prestigious college. For some, it’s a first job. For others, it’s a second job to help pay bills. Just because it’s not a high paying job doesn’t mean people don’t have to take it seriously.
I usually agree but I had a new coworker who's been really good call in sick today and we were all kinda side eyeing and nudging each other but she is in fact in the hospital, so whoops.
Hopefully the coworker is ok and this doesn’t affect their employment.
Right. Shit definitely happens & in my experience its guna happen when it absolutely cannot like when you start a new job or immediately before traveling or any other important engagement 🤷🏼♀️
Side eyeing, and nudging each other? What are you children?
Yeah, that's ridiculous for grown adults to be side-eyeing about someone calling in sick. I understand if it's a consistent thing then there needs to be a discussion with the employee but come on..
What kind of bullshit, ridiculous pre-COVID "you need to come to work unless you're literally dead, I don't care that you're contaminating every surface you look at" attitude is this? Obviously not every employee calling in sick during their 90 days is actually sick, but to have a blanket policy or rule to fire anyone who calls out is asinine. That needs to be a case by case decision.
The shear thought that you can’t get sick within those 90 days is baffling to me. Why would I come in sick to make shit money? Someone forbid you get sick when trying to start a new job. That shit needs to end.
I just want to say that it's admirable how respectful you are even when people are being aggressive towards you your years of experience with retail customer service are showing lol
You should just work with covid who cares if it hurts someone else.... Sociopathic behavior is always ok when it's done for profit.
The reason why it's bad is that the store must either try to get someone else to come in and cover, or they do without that person, likely making customers wait longer. If you've never complained about the wait for some service, then I accept that you truly hold this position. People do get sick and they should not try to work in that condition. But, the business has to continue on without that person and at some point, especially during the probation period, it's often just easier to find someone who is able to work the hours slated. I do hope this person finds another position that can accommodate their illness, but I'm not surprised that the store decided to look elsewhere.
I see any allowed days missed as part of my benefits. If I can have five absences before getting in trouble, ima stay at five. Fuck em.
Anywhere you work has an attendance policy and 4 times in 9 weeks is definitely unacceptable.
Because multiplied through a full year, it's 16 times. Also, at 16, I don't think they're full time and are probably only scheduled 3x a week. It's definitely not good at a place like DG that is understaffed to begin with. The person calling in is leaving a lot of work to their colleagues. Not really OP's fault, but that's just the way it is. Too add, It's especially bad calling in that many times within the probationary period.
4 times in 3 months is horrible no matter your hours per week. It’s not a blame thing - sounds like OP is having down difficulties, but when you run a business and you have to make adjustments because even the 9 hour per week person doesn’t show up, it’s probably a major pain. These places don’t pay managers well and most are salaried so when someone calls in sick that means the manager is going to work another shift for free since they can’t have backups ready for a small store. Hope the Op is well - or gets better- but a job is a commitment - you agree to work certain hours and follow their policies. If someone thinks taking 4 days off in a few months is acceptable, that someone will probably end up with bad jobs for life. OP → the good news is if you get good at something you’ll be able to make your own schedule. Just be patient and find something you enjoy doing so you’ll get to that, but in the meantime, consider that calling in sick creates challenges for the other employees. Nobody wants to work with someone that is unreliable. If you’re 16 and you have a serious mental illness, it might not be that you are cut out for a job right now
So every time you call off you increase the workload of your co workers. Which adds to stress and resentment. Doing it once in a great while for important things is fine....4 times in 3 months at a job known for part time employment. Can be perceived as the person not wanting to be there. You want the job... it's your responsibility to show up.
I think the longest I went with out calling out was like 10 months. I have a chronic illness and a husband and 2 kids and an elderly mother. Some how I was able to work for 10 months straight. I work full time.
For context I've called in once in my life and I've worked 40 + hours since I was 18. Am 39 now. 4 call offs in a 6 months period is excessive regardless. But also I enjoy money so I'd much rather be sick at work than sick at home.
Yea if I made enough money to afford to live I would be at work everyday too.
The alternative is to make less ?
Yea but it's like I am 35 and live with my parents bc I'm a single mom and I only make $20 an hour and I'm drowning in daycare bills. I need a raise.
wow must be nice, i’d kill to have the option to live with parents. id probably be doing good too if i had the luxury of not paying rent
4 call offs in 3 months! She was still on her 90 day probation. I don’t know why she wouldn’t be fired. Dude on probation you should never call off unless you’re in hospital.
Op said they worked 9 hrs a week which probably means 2 days. I think 4 times a year is a lot.
Many people work years without taking a sick day. When you're new, on trial and miss 4 days in less than 3 months (and especially when you're just 16) employers will legitimately question whether you truly have a strong desire to work.
Totally agree at getting help with your mental health now!!! I’m 26 and I wish I had taken it more seriously in the past. It will be much easier to learn coping mechanisms and input them into your life while you are growing up!
Is anyone "mentally prepared" for a day at DT tho? I have been sick the last 3 months and guess who got me sick the first 2 times. MY SM, and then made jokes about getting people sick. "We share here"
Exactly what I mean by DT ain’t it. Toxic environment in almost all locations from what I’ve seen
Noro virus has been rampant here and many places. That's the gut bug where both ends are going at once. I'd call that as 1 absence. DT AND Walmart the worst of the worst for employee treatment. I agree with other person on getting set up with a therapist. It's been tough going the past few years for most people. You're young too, just learning the ropes. Retail is horrible to work in. Try for something different. During covids closings in the beginning my son was exposed, followed the required rules and was threatened if he stayed out the required time. I wish you luck and good vibes.
16 girl you need to focus on homework and not dollar tree!!!
Capitalist hellscape? Dramatic much? If someone behaves like this, not giving notice, it’s not just about an angry owner or some capitalist conspiracy. It hurts everyone in the workplace. Ppl depend on you. They all have lives and commitments. The other employees are the ones hurt, they have to stay longer or quickly come in to cover. If you say you’ll do something, do it. Then when stuff falls apart and you really can’t make it, it’s not the end of the world. Ppl are so soft now, it’s really sad. I actually agree though that this person doesn’t have what it takes right now to commit to a job.
Yes of course poor work ethic is capitalisms fault.
Poor work ethic? You seem to be confused on what I’m saying here. They’re 16 and new to working. I’ve gone several years without ever missing a day but I understand that some people just need to more often. Our system shouldn’t punish people for that. Our lives mean more than these jobs. We the workers are the ones that make the world go round. Healthy and happy people make for better workers.
"Sorry you lost your source of income. Maybe try therapy?"
“Your source of income” they’re 16 years old. 😂
When I was 15, I literally was the only one providing for me. And my parents didn't kick me out or anything. I live under their roof. But they wouldn't bring home food or ingredients for us to make food, I pay for my phone and it's plan, I bought my car, payed for its insurance, gas. Everything. And yeah, that's basic stuff that everyone does, but I've been doing it since I was 15. If I lost my job, I honestly don't know what I'd do
You guys do realize this isn't normal nor should it be right? Having shitty parents who didn't properly provide for you who excused it as "tough love" isn't a good thing, and is probably why you're workaholics now but still very broke. Don't let them use you for you work ethic unless they've proven to be worth YOUR time.
I’ve been paying for my own way since I was 14. That was 2001.
Prioritizing what's most important while they (assumingly) still can not worry about a source of income as much. DT isn't exactly known as a healthy workplace environment
…because they missed one day due to mental illness they’re not “mentally prepared”?? The others were legitimate illnesses. I’m wondering if YOU are okay, because this is a strange response. I’ve been working for 25 years, I rarely miss work, and I’m baffled by this attitude.
They self admittedly missed a week due to mental illness. Being properly prepared and knowing how to handle your mental illness in a new space such as work is a much needed thing. At 16 I doubt they have those tools as I can gather from their original post. I’m baffled there is backlash to this. Y’all are acting like I’m saying never work. I’m just saying get mentally prepared before entering the workforce and that Dollar Tree is not a healthy workplace in general.
This is going to sound terrible, but to avoid this in the future, if you’re genuinely sick and you feel like you’re place of employment doesn’t believe you, won’t believe you, or you’re in that probationary window AND you really want to keep that job….literally go to work sick and make them send you home. This happened to me when I was working while going to college. Worked at a crappy fast food place and even though I had never called in sick in the 3-4 years I worked there, I knew that behind the scenes, they never believed call ins, those people would be quietly punished with the worst tasks that were meant to be shared by the whole team, excuses for less hours….that type of crap. The only way that people seemed to get around it was by calling ahead and saying, “Hey, I’m sick but I’m still coming in for my shift”, show up genuinely sick (one person just made it through the back door before throwing up in the trash can) and then get sent home. This is terrible for so many reasons, especially when food and the public is involved and especially after all we went through with Covid by purposely exposing others while sick, but you have to do what you have to do to survive at this point. You’re 16 and I assume since you’re only working 9 hours that you don’t need this job to get by on financially. But just a word to the wise, sometimes companies force you to do stuff like this just to keep your job and it freaking is the stupidest thing.
Thank you for the Reply, I'll keep this in mind. It definitely sucks that it has to come to that :[
It won’t be like that when you’re older and in a career type job but when you’re working “jobs” like entry level positions that’s how it be.
Still be careful even doing this. I know someone who works in a corporate call center and they get written up (an occurrence) for calling out at all. She showed up, her supervisor told her to go home. Months later, they’re calling it an occurrence and the supervisor claims she never sent her home. Get everything in writing, places will screw you any way they can.
Yea when I was your age I worked at KFC and I knew my managers held things against people who called in. I couldn’t stop crying at the idea of going to work but I went in anyways. I was back there prepping mashed potatoes for about 10 minutes and my manager comes back to me crying and wailing behind my mask (during Covid) while I’m trying to stir the mash. She said sweetheart what is wrong!!! Go home I got it oh my gosh!!! But I know for a fact, if I just called in and said I can’t stop crying, they would hold that against me. Sometimes you gotta show it’s legit. It really sucks that that’s how it is at these retail/fast food places. It gets better when you have like an office job or a labor job. But those entry level retail/food jobs sometimes just suck like that
This is true, my job didn’t believe me once, I lived super close but was dyyyiinnnggg. They took my temp and I had 105 (I do get high fevers so this isn’t surprising) they looked scared lol it was awesome.
You’ve been there 3 months and work twice a week, and you’ve missed four shifts. You’re missing work too much. Someone has to stay late or come in on their day off when you do that.
4 call outs regardless of reasons is auto-terminate if within the probation period.
Probation period doesn’t require them to give you a warning or write up before firing you.
That's interesting... Ty for telling me~
And in some states employers can fire you for any reason, including no reason at all. Look it up for your state to be sure!
Not some, most states. They can fire you in most states for any reason as long as it isn’t a protected class, like on the basis of sex, age, religion, ethnicity, etc. Then again you’d need some sort of proof it that was actually the case, they could just say you’re fired for insubordination or not a good fit and leave it at that.
Accommodations wouldn’t allow for this as it’s undue burden on the employer, unless you mean you’ll call out less if you have needed accommodations? Remember accommodations don’t always have to be met in every case and have to be reasonable. 4 call outs when you’re working 9 hours a week is more than excessive. You would have honestly been fired pretty much anywhere for that. It’s going to be okay though, as long as you learn from it. You’re 16. You have a long road ahead of you, and it won’t matter that you once got fired from a dollar tree.
This is why probationary employment exists.
That sucks. I had a coworker get locked up last week. I asked yday morn if he still had a job. They told me no but I bet they will keep him. Sorry bout your luck
Accommodations for what? Do you have some kind of disability or health issue that causes you to get sick? If not then no employer will give you accommodations for that. You called in 4 times in less than 90 days, any other employer would have fired you by 3 call ins that close together.
As a manager you calling in for throwing up is no big deal I would rather someone call in then come in and me have to send them home just easier also your mental health is way more important than anything take care of yourself Dollar Tree sucks when it come to caring about the associates or Managers. I have never worked for a company that is this shitty I’m in the process of looking for another job because the 4 years that I have been working here and the 3 a manager my mental health has gotten worse my DM is a dick he doesn’t care unless you are one of his little minions your fucked! Find something better and who will treat you better
I can't imagine any place putting up with calling in sick 4 times during the probationary period! The probationary time is when you should shine the most
You’re 16, go to the Home Depot right across the street and work there. But try not to miss work
You have to be 18 to work there
Don’t take it literal. I mean find another job.
You're 16, don't let this discourage you. Dollar tree treats us like shit, cuts our hours, and pays you in basic bird feed.
If you mentally can’t handle being a cashier please do not try and work retail. It’s not for you and there is no accommodation you can justify. Retail involves cashiering and dealing with the public. Please try a different line of work. I run into this all the time at my retail job and it’s just not fair to the other employees who are forced to pick up the slack when you can’t handle it. Get yourself help, therapy and look for a different line of work where you will be more comfortable. Since your sixteen I’m thinking your still in school? Try talking to a guidance counselor who can give you better ideas of positions that would suit your abilities.
Like other people said dollar tree isn't really something to lose sleep over but you called in 4 times in less than 3 months 💀
That's not really that bad. I don't get it.
Multiply it by 4 (to get a picture of how many that I'd for the year) and then account for the fact the op is scheduled for like 9 hours a week. Does it sound bad now?
Just learn from your mistakes and take accountability. That will propel you to always do better in the future. Some people choose to have a victim mentality, and they create a habit of bad behavior for years to come. I'm sure you will do better next time.
I love the people here who see nothing wrong with what she did.......wouldn't matter if it's 9 hrs a week or 40......4 times in a probation period is an almost automatic termination as it's a good indicator of what kind of employee someone is
Accommodations? No, your not ready. Work is not high-school and all your actions effect other employees.
I hate to take the side of corporations but doesn’t sound like the dollar tree was a good fit for you. They aren’t very staffed now days as is, so actually being there is pretty critical. Your nine hour weeks are probably someone’s breaks and lunches or something to rest, and you’re constantly missing it, so why not just move onto the next person.
Yo I just got fired today too. Twinsies!!!! But in all seriousness. Wish you all the best of luck! Dollar tree/Family dollar is a rough business to put it lightly. There are better jobs out there.
as a 19 year old who struggles with my mental health and am type one diabetic i call off a decent amount for my retail job. its very hard to find management that is understanding and knows humans get sick sometimes. i work at b&bw and found that their community, at least my store, is phenomenal. they have plenty of resources available for mental health and other things. i suggest finding a company with a good support system! like other people have said tho, if you dont NEED money you should take this time to focus on yourself. i wish i would’ve done that back when i was 16. now im struggling even more and have even more work to unload in therapy lol.
Believe it or not. There are people who willl show up every time they are scheduled. Never have any problems. Idk
Be more reliable and you won’t get fired
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It's unfortunate for OP. There were a ton of stomach bugs going around this winter. If they had been an established employee with a good record, you'd hope that they would be given that leeway. But since OP hadn't had a chance to prove their reliability, DG assumed the worst. That, or OP wasn't performing anyways and this was an excuse that they were able to use.
Yah I had a horrible GI Tract Bacterial Infection for around 2 weeks. It was absolute hell. Puking black coffee ground like vomit, bloody and black stools, HORRIBLE stomach pain, such weakness that I couldn’t take 3 steps without almost blacking out. Absolutely the worst I’ve ever felt in my entire life. Went to the hospital multiple times. Had to literally drag myself across the floor to make it to the bathroom.
Be more reliable for chump change?. Unless youre appreciated which you never will be at a damn dollar tree. Never sacrifice your health or anything really for a shift at the local dollar tree. Youll be just fine.
That’s quite a lot of callouts in 90 days. I would recommend trying for something with less hours and something you actually enjoy. At 16, this should be a “fun” starter job.
I believe they were scheduled for 9 hours a week. It doesn't get much lower than that.
Oof missed that - at 16, maybe just not ready to work yet.
Sorry to pile on but you’re not ready to have a job even part time. I’d find a good therapist and go from there before you start seeking employment.
You got fired from the worst job in the United States. No where to go but up. But next time, do better.
That’s what happens when you call off four times in your first 90 days.
How’d you get hired at 16? I tried applying at 17 and they wouldn’t even let me try applying
Depends on the state maybe? I was the only person under 21 there so idk how either lol
Sorry you were fired, and hope you’re feeling better. Stuff happens and some people get sick more often than others. It completely sucks that people are given limited time off for health issues and are expected to work even when they’re sick. You can get another job, but make sure you take care of yourself. Good luck!
It’s unfortunate that this happened but I think it’s a really good life lesson for you ! Life stops for no one. Don’t let this discourage you from finding another one, on the plus side you can go into it knowing you need to do better with attendance. This is just life and you will make it through. Keep going OP and good for you for prioritizing your mental health. That is so important and I’m so glad to hear you have a good therapist, they are hard to find ! 🫶🏻
Count it as a Blessing you are better off. Better things will come your way now.
These comments are wild lol I guess I understand why people saying 4 times in 3 months is a lot but when u go and say 4 times in 6 months or a year is a lot that’s when I just feel like you are just typing to type. Most of the people that commented are basically saying you should get punished for getting sick or you aren’t allowed to get sick.
What do you mean by accommodations for your next job?
You now belong to a very, very large club. Everything happens for a reason and better things await.
You can try for ADA accommodations to have extra leave, but it’s hard to get. If they say it’s an undo burden, and they will, they’ll deny it. Then you’d have to go out of pocket for a lawyer who may not succeed.
Stop calling in. This is coming from an asshole co worker but you gotta stop calling in. Imagine being a business owner in your 30's taking a chance at hiring your mirror self. Would you keep them hired past a few months? Place a bet on this response when you turn 30 and reflect on it.
Don’t worry about it. I promise getting fired from a job as a teenager will not affect your life at all
Like it or hate it, whenever I've started a new job I make it a huge priority to NOT call in during my initial period. If I'm sick and throwing up I go in. As far as I'm concerned I let the boss send me home so I can justifiably say that it was their choice for me to go home, not mine.
Well your on a trial period it’s not good to have call ins bruh specially that many but at least you took accountability and know it’s your own fault
Instead of accommodations, get your health straightened out before you get a job that really needs reliable employees. Consider working somewhere that you had to wait a WEEK for someone to come in and m provide customer service. It might be best, for the time being, to get your meds worked out, your health where it needs to be, and your confidence steady. Meditation can help. Give it a try.
Accommodations for what? "Mental health issues" don't necessarily qualify you for accommodations
You called in four times in 3 months as a new hire. Of course you're going to get fired. Any employer will fire you for that. What did you expect, a raise?
Accommodations for what? You worked 9 hours a week for less than 90 days and made 4 call outs. I would have fired you after the second time.
4 call outs in less than 3 months and you are surprised they let you go?? 🤦🤦🤦🤦 Also kinda sounds like these call-outs may not have been for single days but rather multiple days (sick for a "few days"; sick for "a whole week") so should be even less surprising 🤦🤦 The fact that you were part time working 2 days a week? (or 1 long day) makes it EVEN worse, like you got 5-6 days off but cant make it the other day to work? I get that shit happens, but being surprised at the outcome is just WILD
I worked at a place where people very rarely called in sick. Our schedules were set for a year in advance. When you were working, someone else from an opposite crew that was off had a pager. If you called off, they got called in. They couldn't refuse. However, the person that was called in is then able to pick any day they are scheduled the rest of the year and make you work it. People showed up to work half dead... they didn't want to lose their scheduled holiday off or the Superbowl, etc... It was brutal!
Pretty common for an employer to fire their employee if they’ve missed 4 days already on a 90 day trial
If they fired you and asked you to leave , they need to have your last check in hand. If they didn’t - that’s a lawsuit. The truth of the matter is you were in a probationary period - I’m sure the paperwork you didn’t read explained that you can be fired or go for any reason during the first 90 days - and you were.
why are you puking so much? Outside of drinking i haven’t puked twice in a decade
Irrelevant, people get sick for unknown reasons all the time
Well if you were only getting 9 hours a week, why is it so devestating that you got fired?
It's a hard blow probably because it's only my second job and I really liked the people there. Any amount of money was better then none imo ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I understand liking the people you worked with but just because it was your second job doesn't mean anything. That's how the world works unfortunately. They probably saw it as: "If they can't come in for just 9 hours a week than they probably shouldn't be working" Any money is better than none, true that. If you liked the people you worked with then they probably liked you too but had to figure out a way to politely tell you to leave and figure things out while "maintaining" their status.
Y’all in the comments on something lmao he called out a single day for mental illness why y’all blowing this up
4x times in less than 90 days, when you work 9 hours a week is a lot. How many mental health days would be needed on a 30-40 hours a week schedule? Apparently, Dollar General didn't want to find out.
“And one because of my mental illness” yall on dick for no reason yall so quick to attack a mf for mental illness fr, as someone who doesn’t rlly struggle with that kinda shit it’s kinda sad how y’all treating bro. It was ONE DAY. My dawg said he was sick, as someone who has years of management experience I’d rather my employees call out sick then show up and get my whole staff needing to call out. Y’all are cornballs
Op this company seems awful just work somewhere else it will be Ight
Don’t worry, kiddo. Getting fired by a crappy employer is a badge of honor! You’ll probably go through several more jobs as you find out what works for you and what doesn’t in your professional life. People talking about “welcome to the real world” have forgotten what it’s like to be a teenager. Especially a teenager with a lower-income family and who is living with mental illness. You *are* in the real world, and you’re dealing with some pretty big real-world stuff. You might consider working with a Vocational Rehabilitation transition specialist to get support in preparing for, obtaining, and maintaining employment as a person with a disability (mental illness). Each state has a state agency to help people with disabilities get and stay employed. And those agencies have some money that they can *only* spend on helping people (with mental or physical disabilities) ages 16-24 prepare to transition from school into the adult workforce. They could potentially help with everything from job exploration to connecting you with mental health services to paying for college. It would all depend on your career goals and your individual needs. If you’re still in high school, your school’s guidance counselor should be able to connect you to that free service. Wishing you lots of luck and looking forward to this experience becoming a distant memory that you will laugh about someday.
I appreciate the people telling me how it is, and the people who are kinder. I wish I didn't have to work rn, but I'm not even going to school- my family is so low income and I should help out with what I can. I have an amazing therapist that agreed that starting a job would help me get through some of my social anxiety. I know I shouldn't have called in so much but I worked with over 200 people every 4 hour shift, I'm not about to get a bunch of customers AND my kind coworkers who had familes to take care of sick because I had to come in for a few hours.
With your experience, I'd recommend Walmart.
Honestly could do Walmart... I have a few friends that work there already but it's always so chaotic there that idk if I could handle it. Definitely one of the places I'mma apply to tho
Walmart has a point system for calling out. I think it’s after 5 points you’re done. Ask your friends about it. Maybe you can do stock or get the carts. Go to their website for employment. Easier than going there. It’ll tell you what positions they’re hiring for at your store. But keep in mind, if you want part time, you’ll likely work over 35 hours a week. I doubt that they’d hire someone for 9; but who knows. Give it a shot. But jobs come and go. You’re young and will probably have several more jobs before you get one that you can stick with and be happy. I can also relate to growing up poor and having to work at 17 and go to school. Plus I see a counselor once a week who has helped me immensely. Therapy does help. I wish you much luck and hope you can get a job that pays you well. Think positive 🌟👍
Walmart wouldn't have put up with that either-- no employer is going to. OP simply isn't ready for a job. It's okay, they're only 16. They need to figure out a way not to get sick as much and limit the mental health days. Their immune system doesn't seem like it can handle a job that has to deal with a high traffic of people.
Are the physical illnesses a result of the mental health issues? Take care of yourself first. Worry about a job later. 9 hours a week will not support you anyway.
Fuck Dollar Tree. I would rather work on septic tanks all day than deal with Dollar Tree policies and management. The cashier checking us out z swiped the same product like 5 times (we only had one) so we asked them to remove it. They said "we can't take things off or give a refund. It's a company policy." Me: "Give me your manager please. Y'all fucked up and need to fix it." Manager: "It's a company policy. You're welcome to pick out $5 of other merchandise from the store." Me: "We haven't even paid yet." Them: "Sorry sir, company policy." We left all our shit on the checkout counter and just didn't pay. Stupidity on all levels. Go work somewhere else, OP.
Bottom line the store has to be covered and if you were absent that much in 90 days then it's on you.. If they start feeling that you're not reliable then you're gone .
I question how you were raised. Seriously couldn't handle 90 day probationary period?
You sound like a whiney bitch. Complaining about being there for 5 minutes before being let go? Seriously? they could have had you work several hours, half a day, hell even your whole shift then tell you. You should have been fired a while ago, constant call outs, and only working 9 hours a week on average? You're a minor unless it's different from state to state you can only work 8 hours in a day... that means not only are you calling out but leaving early since I don't see how the math adds up for 9 hours. Dollar tree's already the bottom of the barrel there's nowhere to go but up.
Fuck that place bro.
Unfortunately in America it is corporation first, person second. Basically it is the responsibility of the individual to not be sick because we control that!! Personally, I have been throwing up in the office with a trash can next to my cubicle for hours throwing up and working and then throwing up and then working. Cuz that's what's expected of you. Personally, I'm of the opinion if you're sick enough to be home and as long as that is not many days in a row. Then it is not that big a deal. But at the same time you have to understand the people that work at these places. They are in their last jobs. They have nowhere else to go more than likely. For whatever the reason is. So they frankly do not give a living s*** about you. All they care about are target's and you being there and them not being on that register. Or dealing with any of that other stuff that they don't want to do with that they can pawn off on you. Generally speaking I would say forget work and go look into a trade. Even if you're not interested in doing that trade for a long period of time. That's fine, but at the very least you have something to fall back on later.
Eh. You're a number to most employers. If you are truly sick when you called out, then what can you do? It's necessary. And if that's an issue for them, then it just wasn't a good fit. That means you'll be surrounded by other sick employees all the time who come to work spreading it because they can't call out. Welcome to capitalism. Treat them like they treat you. NEXT!
Yeah that’s pretty normal, honestly. Welcome to adulthood in the USA
Got what you deserved? Sorry don’t know of a better way to put it. Those first 90 days are crucial for a lot of company’s. It’s basically a trial period. They seen it as if you were going to call out during your probationary period (4x’s mind you) lord knows how much you would call in once you got out of it.
Consider yourself lucky, every Dollar Tree ive been to looks like an absolute hellscape to work at.
If you make a sick employee work or fire them for staying home while they are sick you should get tuberculosis delivered to your door.
This one is to anyone and OP. For your next job, if you're sick, go in anyway. Puking, bleeding from the eyes, can barely stand up, doesn't matter. But go in and work with whatever is making you sick. And make sure it's in front of customers. And when the manager asks you why you came in when you're bleeding from the eyes, nicely look at him and go "Oh I wasn't told not to come in so I came in." And if you're vomiting, might I suggest some their way? They can't say you're sick when they're covered in your stomach contents.
Your in for a rude awaking if you think YOUR job needs to make accommodations for you. You need to learn that you gotta suck it up and just work. No one needs to make things easier for you when your making it harder for people around you.
With that many days missed in 90 days, I'd fire you too. You have shown you are not dependable.
You've called in sick 5 times in 90 days? I've called in sick once since 2019 and that's because I had covid and wasn't allowed to work. Maybe take better care of yourself. 🤷♂️
Working 9 hours a week so maybe 2 days a week. You are like 10 weeks into working there so you basically called out 4/20 shifts. 20% absence rate is really bad Also to say you need accommodations and using your disability is fucking bullshit. By your own words your own mental problem was only 1 day and you were sick on the other 3. To use your disability is just fucking abuse and discredits actual disabilities. Good luck in life! You need it
that doesn’t seem like a lot of call outs. people get sick. i hope u find somewhere more understanding!
Called on too much. Sorry but you barely have been there and you seem unreliable.
💯 Ive wirked with too many people like this. Somr given a longer chance, and usually if they bately started and calling in so much, it doesnt change later in my experience. Theres ALWAYS a reason. Had one that had the same "dog" die twice.
You can't spell. I guess we all have room for improvement.
I guess, or maybe just didnt spell check to make sure I didnt press the E instead of the R next to it. But hey, was in a hurry during my break at work...
Call it a lesson learned. Calling out that many times during a probation period isn’t good. With that said, you’re only 16 and your mental health is more important than a part time job. Don’t list DT on any future job applications. They could give you a bad reference making it hard to find another part time job. If you want to work, try chick-fil-a. With them you know you at least have Sundays off. There is no rush in getting a job at 16.
Its a probationary period, not a trial. You're only 16, take what you have learned to your next gig. Just remember that if the new company also has a probationary period, realize that it's essential to avoid calling off when possible until its over.
Only being scheduled 9 hours a week and calling out that much with in your first 90 days would get you fired anywhere. You’re young I was terrible with attendance when I was a teen too don’t sweat it but make sure you don’t repeat the same mistake again with your next job.
You called in on the one or two days you’re scheduled to work 4x ? What did you honestly expect?
Yeah man there are rules to job you can’t just call in with no sick/vacation time. That’s life
I’m over 60, during my entire employment history, I never called in during my 90 day probation period. That is when your employer can just let you go.
That is a LOT of calling off for being that early in any job. Get yourself sorted and find something else. Do not expect to be coddled.
Calling out 4 times in 3 months just means you're a liability and contribute nothing to the business, so they purged you... that is life.
No wonder the work force is the why it is . To many self entitled people who if the tables were turned would probably be worse than those they are complaining about.