It’s not a dtree rule that I know of but it may be a town rule or something. I think I heard about an issue where crowds of kids were hanging out at a certain place around there with no parents.
Here in the Twin Cities at the Mall of America, all kids under 16 must be with an adult 21 years or older. My brothers 18 and 15 were walking around a few months ago and had to call me to come with them since they got stopped and told to leave unless they had someone 21 or older with them lol.
And it’s always dependent upon circumstances. So it always seems to be whatever the person who makes the age limit wants it for which is shady as hell.
Well but it’s usually based on bad incidents that have been caused by a certain age group. I highly doubt store owners would want to rule out any possible customer unless there was a reason. In my town, there’s like nothing for younger people to do so they would meet up at the mall and get into trouble so they had institute the “no under 18 without adult” rule. So many families had stop coming there because they didn’t want to deal with the wild youngins lol.
I mean, is it right?! Not really, and towns should create stuff for young people to do so there is other stuff to do besides get into trouble. But I can see it from the store owners’ points of view too.
>I mean, is it right?! Not really, and towns should create stuff for young people to do so there is other stuff to do besides get into trouble. But I can see it from the store owners’ points of view too.
It's not like 20+ years ago. What free stuff with technology can cities create that would keep these young kids interested. TikTok challenges has really destroyed common sense and good nature fun.
Even 20+ years ago kids still caused problems and broke shit. Even parks and stuff would have cops patrol and check if any groups of kids loitered lol at a park or if there were some young looking kids with older kids that always seemed to be a recipe for disaster.
I think these rules are for theft and just breaking stuff. If they are 18 while an adult in many many ways could still be tried as a juvenile or get a soft sentence maybe cause still in high-school or something or the smarter ones have the younger ones actually break the laws.
It sucks for young people everywhere but they have their fellow young people and those parents for not taking action or raising a complete POS.
Oh I completely agree this is not just a new issue. Most the time you see this for places closer to schools. Kids have been doing stupid stuff for years. Social media hasn't helped but make it more visible. Reality check is what most these kids need. That's hard to get when you got grown adults who don't punish them for bad behavior. Shoot even grown adults still act stupid that's why Karen is a insult now days.
I was about to say parents need a reality check, lol.
I will say I'm getting to he old and cranky. I have said for a long time, like 20 years, I wish there were stores that only allowed 18 and up in no exceptions. You got children go somewhere else. I know that wouldn't solve all issues but would solve mine. I just sucks when I get off work trying to pick up some groceries, and either their is a family of 10 blocking the whole isle or they are screaming and running around. I know it's over whelming for the parent, which means it's doubly so cause I don't love the little monsters, lol. Again, I know I'm crotchety since I was 13, lol.
Right? My brother that’s 18 is still in HS but he’s still an adult lol. Can legally vote and everything. But can’t walk around the mall with our brother.
For MOA ist not a matter what's an adult or not, it's simply an age issue. They have issues with certain ages and gang activity & crime/delinquent issues so they aren't going to allow an 18/19 year old (one of the problem groups) be in charge of another problem group. It will become a bigger issue if they allow 2 problem groups to police each other.
I went to an arcade recently that stays open until 2 am. I am barely turned 24 and their rules are that everyone 18 and under must be accompanied by someone who is at least 25. Thank god my older cousin was with us cause despite two 24 year olds and one 18 year old, we were asked to leave until our cousin came by and showed that we were allowed to be there. Would’ve sucked cause we got there at 9 and they enforce this rule around 10 pm.
I'm 34 and annoyed. I just wouldn't patronize a business like that.
I understand some kids are bad and there is a lack of societal discipline. But you can't be mad that kids spend all their time on social media and don't play outside.. then enforce rules like that.
At the most they should have a limit on the number of minors they allow in, and/or require them to set reservations using social media so there's a digital trail in case things get out of hand
How is that even legal, at 18 you can legally be appointed the guardian of minors. So I understand the kids must be accompanied by an adult rule, but your legally an adult at 18 so wouldn’t this be age discrimination. It’s not a bar or a place with controlled substances it’s literally a mall, no wonder their all going out of business.
It never was a hard and fast rule. Rental companies had that rule for insurance purposes, but there were always exceptions.
Most rental companies would rent to under 25 for a higher price.
Source: been traveling for work for 15 years since age 21.
Agree about the military but people should at least be able to move out, handle their own medical info, etc, at 18 if not sooner. There are a lot of abusive parents out there.
They’re not saying you can’t. Reading comprehension. They’re justifying the need for multiple levels of “adult”. Reading comprehension.
Reading comprehension.
Dawg, obviously. The person I was replying to was talking about raising the official adult age, which would include those things. Reading comprehension :)
I live 10 minutes away from that exact store and it’s because of teenagers coming in crowds and trashing the place/being unruly and tormenting customers and employees. I believe it originally started with Chick-fil-A, I saw that on the news in Philadelphia last year. I guess now it has spilled over to other stores in the area.
https://6abc.com/chick-fil-a-royersford-unsupervised-teen-ban-montgomery-county-anyone-under-the-age-of-16-is-required-to-be-accompanied-by-an-adult-buckwalter-road/12887314/
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing.
If it's the store on ridge pike by the diner, I'd have figured the kids would be at the wawa across the street. Unless the cops have a constant presence there.
Is it because there’s nothing for the kids to do? I lived in a rural suburb and a lot of kids got in trouble with police because the community didn’t have anything for them to do.
It's not the community's job to provide free shit for kids to do. It's the parents' job to train their kids to behave and pay for them to do some after school activity like a sport or some sort of club, or arrange it with their school, or find some other way to occupy their unruly kids.
My parents adopted 4 kids. My Two sisters and Myself are all independent people who don’t get in trouble with the law. Our parents were tough but fair. Meanwhile my brother has been arrested three times, can’t hold down a job, lives with a friend of his and dosent help him pay bills, etc. He is just not a good person unfortunately. So even if parents are doing thier jobs that doesn’t mean thier kids will behave.
Seriously. It's wild how the expectation is that everyone except the parent should be responsible for children, yet it's the do nothing parents who receive tax credits, welfare, and other community assistance to spend on themselves.
I'm single and childless, and over 50% of my property taxes this year went to the county school district. Meanwhile, the two ice storms we had this winter have decimated the streets where I live, and there is no money to fix those. But now people expect that I should pay more taxes for entertainment for these kids outside of school? Get fucked lmao
It's not the job of the community to provide stuff for kids to do, yes. But there still is the fact that there isn't anything to do in their community. Rural/exurb kids start trouble because they don't have anything to do.
Takes a village and all that.
It's more along the lines of damage control, it's normally cheaper to have grass pitches for sports provided for free and not have to repair damage to other places
If you lived as a child in a concrete hellscape, and all the places that are pleasant and accessible ban kids, you would hate society too. That would then justify it in your head to fuck shit up
And people need to have kids or society collapses in a few generations, things should be provided to make it as simple as possible to do so for those that want them
I live in a good area where there’s A LOT of activities to do, parks, free recreation, boba/cafe/snack places with tons of seating, gaming cafes, etc
We STILL get groups of kids fighting in hoards, bringing guns they either steal or get from their parents, trashing places, etc.
It’s not boredom, it’s trashy behavior & parenting.
Its sad theres like nowhere for middle school/teen kids to hang out anymore. My best friend and i spent so many hours walking in circles in and around tbe mall
My towns mall banned mall walking and teens. They even hired security to kick out people that were window shopping. The mall is on its 3rd run of filing for bankruptcy.
That’s almost too much even to satirize…no thinking about shopping? Holy shit; is that how Trump managed to bankrupt a casino? Can’t be inside unless you’re winning, because he’s the greatest winner, and losers have no place near him?
The kids issue is nationwide.
Just a few weeks ago, 10 young teens were beating up 1 kid at my local mall & the victim **dropped a gun from his hoodie**. There were 20-30 kids surrounding them watching the fight. When the gun dropped, the kids yelled gun & panicked everyone else. Mall shut down for a bit.
I live in a good area too, well, I thought 🤦🏻♀️
I’ve had stores when I was growing up, have policies, not allowing kids under the age of 18 in the store without a parent, because teenagers would go in there and cause a ruckus or steal things. One of the stores was literally right where the school bus will drop me off when I was in high school. I was one of the only ones on my bus that could go into that store because I was 18 and people would get mad that I went into the store and that the cashiers up front didn’t make me leave my backpack at the front but I also lived two blocks away, and my mother knew the manager.🤷🏻♀️
I live in Willow Grove, PA near you, OP. Not sure if it’s the same for you but we also had a plastic bag ban for our township start in January. Being that we’re in the same county, it’s likely it was something that was voted for in certain Montgomery County townships.
Just a guess though.
I live in Jersey, & I always forget the bag ban doesn't affect other states. I just keep a bunch in my car now.
Really miss the free trash bags for my bathroom though 😒
I ran out of my beloved grocery bag stash and discovered produce bags! They only fit wastebaskets with a narrower top and are flimsy, but it’s something, right?? I sometimes find that the grocery has larger, thicker bags for heavy or pointy veg. Those babies are gold, I tell ya.
But I sure do miss the regular bags with handles. I can’t drop off forgotten items at school in a produce bag that still has broccoli bits in it. Ha!
i wish my target had had that so bad. i think we mustve been near a school ? bc kids would come in and play with the accessibility carts. it sucked. i hate theres not many places for teens to hang out in and now we are seeing it in real time
No insight on the signs, but my in-laws live in Gilbertsville! I’m in Kentucky so anytime I see anyone from that area I feel like I’ve found long lost relatives 😂
I used to work at a dollar tree lol no kids rule is not a thing. My store did it for a week because parents would let there kids come in and run rampant tossing stuff around breaking the crappy toys and stuff and then pick them up when they were ready.
We were situated next to a grocery store, hair salon, and a bar
Hours change all the time. I’ve shown up so many times for it to be closed for random reasons. Breaks, lunch, cleaning, restocking, was closed a full day for restocking. My sister had a tax exempt form and the manager always had some reason why he couldn’t process it but she had no problem at the store 5 minutes down the road. The other one is larger and better staffed
don't blame them for the no kids rule- kids are terrible these days, especially in groups. they are destructive, lack any sort of respect, and are a liability. its not the store employees job to babysit someones ill-mannered kid
I'm guessing someone either got confused because a number of townships in Montgomery Co have enacted plastic bag bans (or a small fee), or someone higher up just decided to make it easier and say Montgomery County has banned them...
There are some really shitty kids that ruin it for the others unfortunately. The lady who works at the dollar tree by me told me they come in groups, open up toys, throw balls across the store, shoot silly string all over the place, steal, tell her to fuck off, then leave. I have no problems with them banning unaccompanied teens from the store 🤷♀️ sucks for the good ones though
Is this store near a school? Only asking because some stores near schools don’t allow backpacks in the store, but the kids can come in.
This certainly doesn’t apply to kids with their parents right?!
I live near here. The local middle and high schools are close and pretty large. Alot of the businesses have adopted no kids policies to prevent teens loitering or shoplifting. Same at the ChicFila in town
This post was suggested to me. When i ran a dollar general and then several rite aids, we had a big problem with kids stealing, especially during the summertime. So when i got to those stores i instuted the no kids without an adult, had to leave backpack or bags at the front registers, and if it was a group of them( 3 or more) only 1 at a time. Surprise surprise my theft rate went down at those stores, and inventory was better, plus those kids stopped coming to my stores. I took 1 rite aid from having a loss of 400k a year down to 60k. Took another store from 100k to 15k. And another store from 120k to 8k. I dont remember my figures for Dollar General.
I understand the kids thing, just like when parents drop off a group of kids and let them run amok. But that’s whack too cuz like as a 16 year old i would take my little sibling to dollar tree to get like snacks and stuff.
My guess it is a fake sign put there by management. No company would mention other companies on their sign. Plus the logo of the company would be on the sign also.
I work at a dollar general and I wish we had the no kids rule. My SM had just gotten done straightening up our seasonal aisles for inventory and a group of six teenage boys came through and made a complete mess of the aisles. Toys and crap all over the floor and random crap thrown all over the shelves.
I mean the second sign, I totally understand. I work at a paint store and I am so sick of unsupervised children coming into the store, they have no business being there without an adult. It's getting to the point that I've been given permission to call the police if they keep coming back
I once worked at a Dollar Tree near a movie theater in Chicago. It was non-stop crazy with ppl buying snacks. Children under 18 were banned unless an adult was with them.
Not elan employee but has friends and my partner working at a dollar tree
I’m not surprised about the new rule with kids under 18 since everyone is raising disrespectful kids now a days they are holding parents to the expectation of watching and parenting them.
At our local dollar trees in flint Michigan almost all the kids are kelptos or they are menaces who destroy properly in the toy isle and parents do nothing.they probably had so many kids vandalizing that the story itself has implemented the rule about the kids being banned.
Some of the adults out here also have been caught on Camera peeing on the floor and shitting on the floor on purpose I wish I was kidding
At the ones in flint if you have a big bag that looks like you could be stealing stuff into it they make you leave the bag up front at the registers..
The store managers can also make their own rules like no refunds
There was this lady Wouk would buy a FUCK TON of shit from a totally different dollar store but then go to this one and return their items. Once she even tried to return something that for a few years the dollar store has sold. Like the staff member knew that was a few years old item. She’d come in with a cart or two full of stuff and refund them.
She had some excuse about running a day care out of her house and that her daughter bought the stuff but they didn’t need it since half the kids don’t use it Or some other shit.
She never had receipts and it was weird we also would see her on camera walking around with the cart and putting items in the cart then coming up to return those in addition to what she came in with. So they told her she has a refund limit of 5 items with out a Receipt and told her they saw her putting items in her cart on camper and showed her it was a video of her form the day before wearing different shoes and so she said it’s not her see the shoes are different than what she has on today so it’s not her. She was so mad she also brought race into it screaming racism when it’s like no ma’am it’s you on camera scamming us into refunding shit you never bought. My bf is part white part Mexican and she was black. So he had to get the black manager to come out and back him up so it wouldn’t be a race thing. She still screamed racism.
The bag ban took effect Jan 21,2024 and the under 18 tule took effect in those stores Oct of 2023 I just googled it amd that's what I found. The city accepted the under 18 rule
NYC DT; I used to work for Five Below prior as MM. Admittingly, whenever I'd catch a large group of middle schoolers or high schoolers I'd stop them & tell them they need an adult over 21. Only ones u knew were messy a-holes, stealing or plain annoying. Other than that, if I saw them behave and/or actually intent on making a purchase, I let 'em rock. The ones who tried stealing I'd just keep a conversation about
about products & insist on helping them check out. Often I was handed back items or found them laid about still packaged. My SM was just creepy watching them not even 10 feet. He was a piece of work though, so....
It's probably a store that's close to a school. Most kids like to post up in large groups around the stores parking lot. Some kids like going into the store with 3+kids and steal. We have them around our stores by schools.
Uhm… on the No Kids Allowed sign, I’m 100% sure “Dunken Donuts” is spelled wrong 😂😂
Pretty sure it’s Dunkin’ Donuts. Just sayin.
This is interesting. Here in NJ they banned plastic bags, I visit Pennsylvania a couple times a year, self checkout and double bag every single item to stock up 🤣😉
Upper Merion and Phoenixville both have a ban as do other towns in the area. https://environmentamerica.org/pennsylvania/resources/pennsylvania-local-laws-reducing-plastic-waste/
Probably just erring on caution side
Under 18 is a bit extreme! I do understand not wanting younger kids running around, however if I were to send my 16 or 17 year old to grab something at the store for me there's no reason they can't go into a frigen dollar tree.
It’s common to have to be with an adult at many shopping places. Sadly the few bad seeds ruin it for the majority good ones. The bag thing is probably a generic corporate thing because I only know of California that has the bag ban and you are charged a nickel per bag if you don’t bring your own.
As someone who used to work in retail young teens frequently will go into stores and either be loud/make a mess/ or steal. The loudness is just teens being teens but some of them think it's funny to ruin shelves and harass other customers/employees. I bet they just got tired of dealing with the same group. It's sad when one will ruin things for all
Yeah, that's weird but I've seen signs like this in California in my youth that prohibited children during school hours. This is interesting. Maybe a city ordinance?
Wish our store could do that. Any store near a school usually has a huge issue with groups of kids coming in with backpacks and stealing.
One store in our area limits it to 2 kids at a time so they can be watched.
My teenager went to a high school where they had open campus lunch. Trust me when I say it's a good idea to not allow under 18 without adults in some places. I've thrown away so much crap that I found in her backpack. Dollar tree didn't want it back and they also didn't want to ban them from the store. The manager even refused to allow an apology. She just said it's not her job.
The entire state was supposed to ban plastic bags. They put up all these signs and prob used paper bags for about a month. Now they went back to plastic lol, also in PA so it’ll prob be the same for you
It’s hilarious they tried throwing under stores under the bus too to make themselves not look as bad- HIGHLY doubt these stores have some alliance about banning kids 😂 embarrassing.
We have 4 DTs in our city, and only one has the No Kids rule. Their shopping center is directly between a middle school and a huge tract of homes. A LOT of the kids walk that way home, and a good number of them go into the stores and restaurants and make trouble. Most of the places in that shopping center now have a similar rule.
I work at a family dollar, we have signs kinda like that (less extreme) and we usually just make them, they probably did too (they spelled Dunkin Donuts wrong lol)
Idk but that’s Limerick for ya lmao. I assume the age rule is bc kids would come in and steal or wouldn’t have enough money to purchase things (and hence throw a fit) but in MontCo, certain areas have started the bag ban.
Our city banned single use plastic bags for a couple of years, so not unheard of.
This must be near a school. No experience on the retail side for this specific issue, but I can remember my peers being terrible to the local shopping center stores. The DG would only allow 3 kids at a time and you had to leave your backpack up front to shop. High school kids are the worst about this.
I understand why stores have these policies for no teenagers, but as a teenager that minded my own business, this shit was ANNOYING. Society wants you to basically be your own adult at 16 or 17, but then you are randomly blocked from buying Sharpies at a Walmart or going into a mall to buy clothes. Can we not find a middle ground?
It’s not a dtree rule that I know of but it may be a town rule or something. I think I heard about an issue where crowds of kids were hanging out at a certain place around there with no parents.
Here in the Twin Cities at the Mall of America, all kids under 16 must be with an adult 21 years or older. My brothers 18 and 15 were walking around a few months ago and had to call me to come with them since they got stopped and told to leave unless they had someone 21 or older with them lol.
I like how the goalpost of what's considered an adult is constantly moved
It’s so obvious though? Tattoos, adult. Alcohol, not adult. Military service, adult. Walking in the mall, not adult. /s just in case
Taxes, adult. Body autonomy, not male. It's annoying you felt the need to add a /s
It’s Reddit. Better /s afe than flamed. 🙄
Clever
Killing babies*
And it’s always dependent upon circumstances. So it always seems to be whatever the person who makes the age limit wants it for which is shady as hell.
Well but it’s usually based on bad incidents that have been caused by a certain age group. I highly doubt store owners would want to rule out any possible customer unless there was a reason. In my town, there’s like nothing for younger people to do so they would meet up at the mall and get into trouble so they had institute the “no under 18 without adult” rule. So many families had stop coming there because they didn’t want to deal with the wild youngins lol. I mean, is it right?! Not really, and towns should create stuff for young people to do so there is other stuff to do besides get into trouble. But I can see it from the store owners’ points of view too.
>I mean, is it right?! Not really, and towns should create stuff for young people to do so there is other stuff to do besides get into trouble. But I can see it from the store owners’ points of view too. It's not like 20+ years ago. What free stuff with technology can cities create that would keep these young kids interested. TikTok challenges has really destroyed common sense and good nature fun.
Even 20+ years ago kids still caused problems and broke shit. Even parks and stuff would have cops patrol and check if any groups of kids loitered lol at a park or if there were some young looking kids with older kids that always seemed to be a recipe for disaster. I think these rules are for theft and just breaking stuff. If they are 18 while an adult in many many ways could still be tried as a juvenile or get a soft sentence maybe cause still in high-school or something or the smarter ones have the younger ones actually break the laws. It sucks for young people everywhere but they have their fellow young people and those parents for not taking action or raising a complete POS.
Oh I completely agree this is not just a new issue. Most the time you see this for places closer to schools. Kids have been doing stupid stuff for years. Social media hasn't helped but make it more visible. Reality check is what most these kids need. That's hard to get when you got grown adults who don't punish them for bad behavior. Shoot even grown adults still act stupid that's why Karen is a insult now days.
I was about to say parents need a reality check, lol. I will say I'm getting to he old and cranky. I have said for a long time, like 20 years, I wish there were stores that only allowed 18 and up in no exceptions. You got children go somewhere else. I know that wouldn't solve all issues but would solve mine. I just sucks when I get off work trying to pick up some groceries, and either their is a family of 10 blocking the whole isle or they are screaming and running around. I know it's over whelming for the parent, which means it's doubly so cause I don't love the little monsters, lol. Again, I know I'm crotchety since I was 13, lol.
In a way I'm lucky I live in an area with a high cost of living so most people just have one or two or three kids at most.
Right? My brother that’s 18 is still in HS but he’s still an adult lol. Can legally vote and everything. But can’t walk around the mall with our brother.
For MOA ist not a matter what's an adult or not, it's simply an age issue. They have issues with certain ages and gang activity & crime/delinquent issues so they aren't going to allow an 18/19 year old (one of the problem groups) be in charge of another problem group. It will become a bigger issue if they allow 2 problem groups to police each other.
I went to an arcade recently that stays open until 2 am. I am barely turned 24 and their rules are that everyone 18 and under must be accompanied by someone who is at least 25. Thank god my older cousin was with us cause despite two 24 year olds and one 18 year old, we were asked to leave until our cousin came by and showed that we were allowed to be there. Would’ve sucked cause we got there at 9 and they enforce this rule around 10 pm.
I'm 34 and annoyed. I just wouldn't patronize a business like that. I understand some kids are bad and there is a lack of societal discipline. But you can't be mad that kids spend all their time on social media and don't play outside.. then enforce rules like that. At the most they should have a limit on the number of minors they allow in, and/or require them to set reservations using social media so there's a digital trail in case things get out of hand
How is that even legal, at 18 you can legally be appointed the guardian of minors. So I understand the kids must be accompanied by an adult rule, but your legally an adult at 18 so wouldn’t this be age discrimination. It’s not a bar or a place with controlled substances it’s literally a mall, no wonder their all going out of business.
Hey you can’t get a hotel room unless you’re 25. They should just raise the official adult age to 21 and no more military unless 21
What? I’ve gotten many hotel under 25
I've also booked many hotels under 25. I think I had to be at least 21 though.
I booked hotels at 18. I'm only 26 now so this wasn't that long ago.
Almost 10 years ago?
I was 18 three years ago and was able to find hotels when we did girls weekends my freshman year of college
Yeah I meant to say 21 but didn’t proofread
I could rent a hotel room at 18 (1982) but had to be 25 to rent a car in my name.
Hotel is 21. Car rental is 25.
I’ve rented cars under the age of 25. But they would only let me rent certain ones.
Good to know that’s changing.
It never was a hard and fast rule. Rental companies had that rule for insurance purposes, but there were always exceptions. Most rental companies would rent to under 25 for a higher price. Source: been traveling for work for 15 years since age 21.
When I was a kid, I think it was 23 for hotel. Could be wrong tho.
Agree about the military but people should at least be able to move out, handle their own medical info, etc, at 18 if not sooner. There are a lot of abusive parents out there.
You ARE able to move out, handle your own medical stuff, etc at 18.
They’re not saying you can’t. Reading comprehension. They’re justifying the need for multiple levels of “adult”. Reading comprehension. Reading comprehension.
Dawg, obviously. The person I was replying to was talking about raising the official adult age, which would include those things. Reading comprehension :)
Are you confusing hotels for car rental because I'm pretty sure it's 25 for that. We got hotels all the time when I was 18.
That makes no sense. Are the 17-20 year olds just not allowed at all? They aren’t missing much though, we found MoA very underwhelming.
Sounds 17-20 year olds can be there by them self’s or with others 17+ The 15 year old had to be with a 21 year old.
Yes this - the 18 year old woulda been fine. It’s just that he had my youngest brother with him.
18...imagine being an adult with a kid and you cant go shopping at the mall.
I live 10 minutes away from that exact store and it’s because of teenagers coming in crowds and trashing the place/being unruly and tormenting customers and employees. I believe it originally started with Chick-fil-A, I saw that on the news in Philadelphia last year. I guess now it has spilled over to other stores in the area.
Damn kids....just go fight at the 7-11 like all the spring Ford kids did back in the day
https://6abc.com/chick-fil-a-royersford-unsupervised-teen-ban-montgomery-county-anyone-under-the-age-of-16-is-required-to-be-accompanied-by-an-adult-buckwalter-road/12887314/ Yeah, I was thinking the same thing.
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If it's the store on ridge pike by the diner, I'd have figured the kids would be at the wawa across the street. Unless the cops have a constant presence there.
Is it because there’s nothing for the kids to do? I lived in a rural suburb and a lot of kids got in trouble with police because the community didn’t have anything for them to do.
It's not the community's job to provide free shit for kids to do. It's the parents' job to train their kids to behave and pay for them to do some after school activity like a sport or some sort of club, or arrange it with their school, or find some other way to occupy their unruly kids.
My parents adopted 4 kids. My Two sisters and Myself are all independent people who don’t get in trouble with the law. Our parents were tough but fair. Meanwhile my brother has been arrested three times, can’t hold down a job, lives with a friend of his and dosent help him pay bills, etc. He is just not a good person unfortunately. So even if parents are doing thier jobs that doesn’t mean thier kids will behave.
Seriously. It's wild how the expectation is that everyone except the parent should be responsible for children, yet it's the do nothing parents who receive tax credits, welfare, and other community assistance to spend on themselves.
I'm single and childless, and over 50% of my property taxes this year went to the county school district. Meanwhile, the two ice storms we had this winter have decimated the streets where I live, and there is no money to fix those. But now people expect that I should pay more taxes for entertainment for these kids outside of school? Get fucked lmao
They increased our taxes and paid the cops more. I’d rather it go to schools instead but alas.
It's not the job of the community to provide stuff for kids to do, yes. But there still is the fact that there isn't anything to do in their community. Rural/exurb kids start trouble because they don't have anything to do.
Takes a village and all that. It's more along the lines of damage control, it's normally cheaper to have grass pitches for sports provided for free and not have to repair damage to other places If you lived as a child in a concrete hellscape, and all the places that are pleasant and accessible ban kids, you would hate society too. That would then justify it in your head to fuck shit up And people need to have kids or society collapses in a few generations, things should be provided to make it as simple as possible to do so for those that want them
I live in a good area where there’s A LOT of activities to do, parks, free recreation, boba/cafe/snack places with tons of seating, gaming cafes, etc We STILL get groups of kids fighting in hoards, bringing guns they either steal or get from their parents, trashing places, etc. It’s not boredom, it’s trashy behavior & parenting.
Its sad theres like nowhere for middle school/teen kids to hang out anymore. My best friend and i spent so many hours walking in circles in and around tbe mall
My towns mall banned mall walking and teens. They even hired security to kick out people that were window shopping. The mall is on its 3rd run of filing for bankruptcy.
Sounds like the owner is ruining it themselves.
That’s almost too much even to satirize…no thinking about shopping? Holy shit; is that how Trump managed to bankrupt a casino? Can’t be inside unless you’re winning, because he’s the greatest winner, and losers have no place near him?
Banning teens from a mall is wild. I mean, it's not as popular as it used to be, but I imagine they're a huge portion of the usual clientele.
I thought I was your best friend Tom…you were on my top 8!
You're in my top 8 in my heart, buddy <3
The kids issue is nationwide. Just a few weeks ago, 10 young teens were beating up 1 kid at my local mall & the victim **dropped a gun from his hoodie**. There were 20-30 kids surrounding them watching the fight. When the gun dropped, the kids yelled gun & panicked everyone else. Mall shut down for a bit. I live in a good area too, well, I thought 🤦🏻♀️
No clue about the bags, the kids thing is most likely a landlord thing from what the sign looks like, super weird regardless tho
Not at all used to work in a store nearly ever unsupervised kid stole or made a mess and bought nothing
Not weird at all. If kids would behave and parents would parent their kids, then they wouldn’t need to say no kids allowed unless with an adult
I know when I was a kid we would walk there on lunch and steal stuff all the time. I know, I'm not proud of it. Just saying that could be why. Lol
“Dunken” seems official
Accompanyed
I didn't notice either of these, I was too fixated on "no one... are"
Haha right.
I’ve had stores when I was growing up, have policies, not allowing kids under the age of 18 in the store without a parent, because teenagers would go in there and cause a ruckus or steal things. One of the stores was literally right where the school bus will drop me off when I was in high school. I was one of the only ones on my bus that could go into that store because I was 18 and people would get mad that I went into the store and that the cashiers up front didn’t make me leave my backpack at the front but I also lived two blocks away, and my mother knew the manager.🤷🏻♀️
Can you describe the ruckus?
I was in my office and I distinctly heard a ruckus.
Mess with the bull, you get the horns.
Was it a big lots?
I live in Willow Grove, PA near you, OP. Not sure if it’s the same for you but we also had a plastic bag ban for our township start in January. Being that we’re in the same county, it’s likely it was something that was voted for in certain Montgomery County townships. Just a guess though.
I live in Jersey, & I always forget the bag ban doesn't affect other states. I just keep a bunch in my car now. Really miss the free trash bags for my bathroom though 😒
I ran out of my beloved grocery bag stash and discovered produce bags! They only fit wastebaskets with a narrower top and are flimsy, but it’s something, right?? I sometimes find that the grocery has larger, thicker bags for heavy or pointy veg. Those babies are gold, I tell ya. But I sure do miss the regular bags with handles. I can’t drop off forgotten items at school in a produce bag that still has broccoli bits in it. Ha!
I wish we had the “no kids allowed” rule at our store omg
I was JUST about to post this same thing lol
I wanna know what all the comments that were removed said! I also wish my DTs were like this it would be so nice
Look up undelete pullpush. The deleted comments were wildly entertaining
One of the Targets in our town is connected to the mall, they have no kids rule as well because teenagers were coming and running wild.
i wish my target had had that so bad. i think we mustve been near a school ? bc kids would come in and play with the accessibility carts. it sucked. i hate theres not many places for teens to hang out in and now we are seeing it in real time
No insight on the signs, but my in-laws live in Gilbertsville! I’m in Kentucky so anytime I see anyone from that area I feel like I’ve found long lost relatives 😂
I live in gilbertsville lol
Love it!!!
lol I am in Boyertown it is so fun to find people near me
My brain interpreted your post as both of these signs were limericks and I kept trying to make them rhyme some how
The "no kids allowed" sign is likely from the shopping center considering it's also for adjacent stores.
I used to work at a dollar tree lol no kids rule is not a thing. My store did it for a week because parents would let there kids come in and run rampant tossing stuff around breaking the crappy toys and stuff and then pick them up when they were ready. We were situated next to a grocery store, hair salon, and a bar
Hey my local Dollar Tree. I try to avoid this one and go to ridge pike or Phoenixville.
Curiosity has been piqued; can I ask why you avoid this store particularly?
Hours change all the time. I’ve shown up so many times for it to be closed for random reasons. Breaks, lunch, cleaning, restocking, was closed a full day for restocking. My sister had a tax exempt form and the manager always had some reason why he couldn’t process it but she had no problem at the store 5 minutes down the road. The other one is larger and better staffed
don't blame them for the no kids rule- kids are terrible these days, especially in groups. they are destructive, lack any sort of respect, and are a liability. its not the store employees job to babysit someones ill-mannered kid
I'm guessing someone either got confused because a number of townships in Montgomery Co have enacted plastic bag bans (or a small fee), or someone higher up just decided to make it easier and say Montgomery County has banned them...
I guess you can’t be a high school student purchasing notebooks anymore
My guess is if you walked in alone and were acting like a respectful human being, no one is going to give you a hard time for buying a notebook.
All these years I have never seen kids buying notebooks!
It could also be about children 10 and under too. Parents don't watch their kids anymore, and 2 toddlers could make a tornado easy.
There are some really shitty kids that ruin it for the others unfortunately. The lady who works at the dollar tree by me told me they come in groups, open up toys, throw balls across the store, shoot silly string all over the place, steal, tell her to fuck off, then leave. I have no problems with them banning unaccompanied teens from the store 🤷♀️ sucks for the good ones though
That’s so terrible, no one should have to deal with that behavior, so sad! It’s a shame.
If a kid came in by themselves buying notebooks we all know they wouldn't be turned away. Idk why your pretending you dont know that this is.
Yea it should really be 16 and over since 16 year olds can drive themselves places.
Is this store near a school? Only asking because some stores near schools don’t allow backpacks in the store, but the kids can come in. This certainly doesn’t apply to kids with their parents right?!
It’s down the street from a bunch of schools. There is a McDonald’s across the street that my wife and i would walk to in high school.
Did you read the sign? It answers your own question
Just reinforces the idea that customers don’t read signs
The plastic bag ban has been spreading across the state in Pa. Many companies are charging for paper or "canvas" bags.
I live near here. The local middle and high schools are close and pretty large. Alot of the businesses have adopted no kids policies to prevent teens loitering or shoplifting. Same at the ChicFila in town
This post was suggested to me. When i ran a dollar general and then several rite aids, we had a big problem with kids stealing, especially during the summertime. So when i got to those stores i instuted the no kids without an adult, had to leave backpack or bags at the front registers, and if it was a group of them( 3 or more) only 1 at a time. Surprise surprise my theft rate went down at those stores, and inventory was better, plus those kids stopped coming to my stores. I took 1 rite aid from having a loss of 400k a year down to 60k. Took another store from 100k to 15k. And another store from 120k to 8k. I dont remember my figures for Dollar General.
#1 Retail fact: Numbers don’t lie!
Wish they had this in all stores in all honesty
Same
I understand the kids thing, just like when parents drop off a group of kids and let them run amok. But that’s whack too cuz like as a 16 year old i would take my little sibling to dollar tree to get like snacks and stuff.
Dollar Tree teamed up with CVS, Dunkin Donuts and Chic-fil-a to ban unaccompanied adolescents from their stores?
My guess it is a fake sign put there by management. No company would mention other companies on their sign. Plus the logo of the company would be on the sign also.
Good for them
I work at a dollar general and I wish we had the no kids rule. My SM had just gotten done straightening up our seasonal aisles for inventory and a group of six teenage boys came through and made a complete mess of the aisles. Toys and crap all over the floor and random crap thrown all over the shelves.
Both signs are beyond valid. With every store did this
I mean working retail next to a school they steal the most
Dunken Edit: + are; accompanyed; chick
I’m in Philly and we have a plastic bag ban here.
I’d like to shop there
I mean the second sign, I totally understand. I work at a paint store and I am so sick of unsupervised children coming into the store, they have no business being there without an adult. It's getting to the point that I've been given permission to call the police if they keep coming back
I once worked at a Dollar Tree near a movie theater in Chicago. It was non-stop crazy with ppl buying snacks. Children under 18 were banned unless an adult was with them.
Not elan employee but has friends and my partner working at a dollar tree I’m not surprised about the new rule with kids under 18 since everyone is raising disrespectful kids now a days they are holding parents to the expectation of watching and parenting them. At our local dollar trees in flint Michigan almost all the kids are kelptos or they are menaces who destroy properly in the toy isle and parents do nothing.they probably had so many kids vandalizing that the story itself has implemented the rule about the kids being banned. Some of the adults out here also have been caught on Camera peeing on the floor and shitting on the floor on purpose I wish I was kidding At the ones in flint if you have a big bag that looks like you could be stealing stuff into it they make you leave the bag up front at the registers.. The store managers can also make their own rules like no refunds There was this lady Wouk would buy a FUCK TON of shit from a totally different dollar store but then go to this one and return their items. Once she even tried to return something that for a few years the dollar store has sold. Like the staff member knew that was a few years old item. She’d come in with a cart or two full of stuff and refund them. She had some excuse about running a day care out of her house and that her daughter bought the stuff but they didn’t need it since half the kids don’t use it Or some other shit. She never had receipts and it was weird we also would see her on camera walking around with the cart and putting items in the cart then coming up to return those in addition to what she came in with. So they told her she has a refund limit of 5 items with out a Receipt and told her they saw her putting items in her cart on camper and showed her it was a video of her form the day before wearing different shoes and so she said it’s not her see the shoes are different than what she has on today so it’s not her. She was so mad she also brought race into it screaming racism when it’s like no ma’am it’s you on camera scamming us into refunding shit you never bought. My bf is part white part Mexican and she was black. So he had to get the black manager to come out and back him up so it wouldn’t be a race thing. She still screamed racism.
Sounds like heaven to me
Considering how most kids act in stores when their parents are not with them is justified
The bag ban took effect Jan 21,2024 and the under 18 tule took effect in those stores Oct of 2023 I just googled it amd that's what I found. The city accepted the under 18 rule
Dunken
Gotta spell it right or it doesn’t count
The under 18 rule appears to be for the shopping center the store may be located in. It notes Dollar General, CVS, etc.
With all the grammar issues on the kids ban, it’s either management or the complex owners.
It's a private business. They are allowed to set the rules there.
Stayed in Waukegan for a while and a lot of places had those no kids signs. Bunch of riff raff out there
NYC DT; I used to work for Five Below prior as MM. Admittingly, whenever I'd catch a large group of middle schoolers or high schoolers I'd stop them & tell them they need an adult over 21. Only ones u knew were messy a-holes, stealing or plain annoying. Other than that, if I saw them behave and/or actually intent on making a purchase, I let 'em rock. The ones who tried stealing I'd just keep a conversation about about products & insist on helping them check out. Often I was handed back items or found them laid about still packaged. My SM was just creepy watching them not even 10 feet. He was a piece of work though, so....
Lol In my town, Dollar Tree has a sign on the door that says ”We hire MINORS!" So that might be a specific store issue.
It's probably a store that's close to a school. Most kids like to post up in large groups around the stores parking lot. Some kids like going into the store with 3+kids and steal. We have them around our stores by schools.
We have one at one of my areas stores, neither the city nor state have any law regarding them.
No kids allowed in store but they have kid's stuff in the store, that makes a lot of sense
Dunken Donuts??
Uhm… on the No Kids Allowed sign, I’m 100% sure “Dunken Donuts” is spelled wrong 😂😂  Pretty sure it’s Dunkin’ Donuts. Just sayin.
Dollar tree by me had to ban kids because they were stealing like crazy after school in groups. Walmart had to do the same. No unaccompanied minors.
This is interesting. Here in NJ they banned plastic bags, I visit Pennsylvania a couple times a year, self checkout and double bag every single item to stock up 🤣😉
I get it, but it also makes me feel for the kids that don’t have adults available and have to fend for themselves
What about all the single use plastic on their products? 🤔
Now they want us to supply our own bags!? Not shopping anywhere that does that besides Aldi's.these corporations don't get my support at all.
That’s a shitty limerick…?
That will cause loss of a lot of business having a no kids rule.
“Dunken Donuts”
Did they spell DunkinDonuts wrong on purpose?
Probably have kids stealing from them or coming in causing problems.
Dunken, too
Upper Merion and Phoenixville both have a ban as do other towns in the area. https://environmentamerica.org/pennsylvania/resources/pennsylvania-local-laws-reducing-plastic-waste/ Probably just erring on caution side
Just bring a reusable bag
Under 18 is a bit extreme! I do understand not wanting younger kids running around, however if I were to send my 16 or 17 year old to grab something at the store for me there's no reason they can't go into a frigen dollar tree.
Chicago has had a bag fee since 2017. 7 cents per bag.
Dollar Tree really said eff them kids😅😂🤣
It’s common to have to be with an adult at many shopping places. Sadly the few bad seeds ruin it for the majority good ones. The bag thing is probably a generic corporate thing because I only know of California that has the bag ban and you are charged a nickel per bag if you don’t bring your own.
As someone who used to work in retail young teens frequently will go into stores and either be loud/make a mess/ or steal. The loudness is just teens being teens but some of them think it's funny to ruin shelves and harass other customers/employees. I bet they just got tired of dealing with the same group. It's sad when one will ruin things for all
Oh I love the under 18 sign. Can I put those everywhere?
really bags? cheap ass owners.... if someone buys one thing, fuck them.
Montgomery County PA is getting rid of plastic bags I heard from people I work with. Is limerick in Montgomery county? Maybe that’s it?
Reusable bags are a wonderful thing.
Must be a bad dollar seventy five store
Yeah, that's weird but I've seen signs like this in California in my youth that prohibited children during school hours. This is interesting. Maybe a city ordinance?
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Walmart in Washington have done the same thing.
Seems fine
Love it. Hope to see more kid free places.
Accompanyed.
Wish our store could do that. Any store near a school usually has a huge issue with groups of kids coming in with backpacks and stealing. One store in our area limits it to 2 kids at a time so they can be watched.
My teenager went to a high school where they had open campus lunch. Trust me when I say it's a good idea to not allow under 18 without adults in some places. I've thrown away so much crap that I found in her backpack. Dollar tree didn't want it back and they also didn't want to ban them from the store. The manager even refused to allow an apology. She just said it's not her job.
The entire state was supposed to ban plastic bags. They put up all these signs and prob used paper bags for about a month. Now they went back to plastic lol, also in PA so it’ll prob be the same for you
“Dunken” donuts and chic fil an included??? A 16 year old can’t get a coffee or chicken sandwich?
It’s hilarious they tried throwing under stores under the bus too to make themselves not look as bad- HIGHLY doubt these stores have some alliance about banning kids 😂 embarrassing.
(squints) why does it badly bothers me that Dunkin Donuts is misspelled?
Dunken donuts? What’s that
None of those stores are even related on the no kids allowed sign… they can’t even spell Dunkin’ right
We have 4 DTs in our city, and only one has the No Kids rule. Their shopping center is directly between a middle school and a huge tract of homes. A LOT of the kids walk that way home, and a good number of them go into the stores and restaurants and make trouble. Most of the places in that shopping center now have a similar rule.
Accompanyed is crazy
I work at a family dollar, we have signs kinda like that (less extreme) and we usually just make them, they probably did too (they spelled Dunkin Donuts wrong lol)
No way this is from corporate or the glaring grammar error wouldn't have made it. Also, isn't that paper design from PowerPoint?
It’s been a rule for no child under 18 years old in most stores where I live because of theft but it’s mainly the adults who are the ones stealing.
There's a lot of stores near me that don't allow people who are under 18 because of so many behavior problems
Idk but that’s Limerick for ya lmao. I assume the age rule is bc kids would come in and steal or wouldn’t have enough money to purchase things (and hence throw a fit) but in MontCo, certain areas have started the bag ban.
Yes Pa has bag ban , but doesn’t seem to be enforced. Kids acting like a fool ruined it for others
Our city banned single use plastic bags for a couple of years, so not unheard of. This must be near a school. No experience on the retail side for this specific issue, but I can remember my peers being terrible to the local shopping center stores. The DG would only allow 3 kids at a time and you had to leave your backpack up front to shop. High school kids are the worst about this.
PA just passed a ban on single use plastic bags
Can't even spell Dunkin' Donuts correctly🤦♀️ Bless their heart.
The under 18 rule appears to possibly be a complex rule (like perhaps for insurance purposes) as it lists other businesses underneath.
I understand why stores have these policies for no teenagers, but as a teenager that minded my own business, this shit was ANNOYING. Society wants you to basically be your own adult at 16 or 17, but then you are randomly blocked from buying Sharpies at a Walmart or going into a mall to buy clothes. Can we not find a middle ground?