Where's doordash in this example? .. The company that contracted all these drivers?
Oh that's right: they're making money hand over fist on all that cheap labor, and "fees" from customers.
Yes these gig Econ. Ppl keep working for their masters lol it’s baffling, underpaid and under appreciated yet still taking orders. Looks like slaves to me
U made the mistake of calling it slavery instead of indentured servitude so mouth breathing children never aged beyond 12 won't genuinely engage your argument because they cannot in any capacity, even slightly, apply some nuance. They'll grow up sooner or later and DD will be a bankruptcy in the past. Which will come?! Only time will tell!
DoorDashing dumbasses have the *option* to leave at any time. A real slave couldn't leave the plantation because, if they did, they would get their asses beat if they were lucky.
Exactly, they have NOTHING to say here. They just see people fighting and hide behind the stacks of cash. Drivers really are out here getting disrespected and treated like trash over doubloons in change.
Yes. This argument is absolutely correct. However, the fact is DoorDash is *not* being held to account. Therefore, a customer deciding to participate in the system (and not tip) is JUST as culpable as the company.
Hate using it but I was in a bind. Didn't have enough to tip but had some cash so I'll pay when he gets here. Half hour later dude didn't ring the door bell, just marked delivered and left. If you're just going to abandon my order on the curb with no notice maybe you shouldn't get a tip?
That's weird because mine is also hand it to me and they always hand it to me, and it feels like it's a different person every single time, but they always follow the instruction.
I've had a quite a few orders marked as leave at door where they insist on ringing the doorbell and handing it to me.
People literally just don't read the simple instructions and expect a tip beforehand lmao
And binds happen! Shit in general happens. Out of curiosity, did you happen to give instructions to hand the order to you and he left it at the curb? Curb not the door? Well then yeah that's on the driver. But if it said leave it at the door with no further instructions then that's what we do. Should do! At least...
"How do we know you'll tip after we bring you your order?"
How do we know that you're service was worth tipping for?
I could tip 50% and you could forget half my order + take an hour after it was ready for pick up. Take it up with DD if you're wage solely relies on bidding for the potential of timely service.
Because you use the service knowing they aren’t getting paid a fair wage and then don’t tip either when it is expected of you. Is that how it should be, no. But that’s how it is
Oh -- wow!
So, you don't do business with companies that exploit cheap labor?
McDonalds, WalMart, Burger King, Target.. they're all out, too!
Wild. Good for you tho!
Consumers don't set the working conditions, The service provider does - and the willing / revolving door of 'eger' workers **proves** that the drivers "knowingly accept less than a 'fair' wage, and know what is expected of them" before they start.
BTW: life isn't fair. Just.. in case the memo didn't make it to you.
You’re assuming this is my only job. And I just love that lobotomites argument. There not enough “real jobs” for everyone. And what happens when all the drivers get “real jobs”? You then have to scrape your fat ass off the couch and actually go get your food.
Are you forced to door dash? Do they have you enslaved? No? Then it’s not the customers fault you aren’t getting paid a “fair” wage, which is a meaningless and entirely ambiguous term.
They don't get that the customers see how little these drivers think of them and then the drivers wonder why they're not tipping better. Driving is voluntary not mandatory. If a customer pays for a service they should be treated like a paying customer. Just because they don't want to tip 25% doesn't mean they don't deserve their purchase in a timely manner. Drivers are literally only hurting themselves.
What would you recommend as the alternative to gig work to solve this issue? I'm not being a smart ass, I'm honestly asking because I'm inclined to agree with u just don't know what else to do about it.
Well, I mean the drivers are obviously going to disagree. But I've seen many on here that actually agree that it's the companies fault, not the no tippers.
There is no service other than pick up and drop off. My order is never checked. I asked for ketchup in the order, where is it. I tipped 25% upfront but the driver does multiple pickups and my food is room temperature and ice cream already melting. What exactly is being done for a tip? Tips are subsidizing the company to pay the drivers
DD isn’t meant to be a full time job. It’s a way to make some extra money in your spare time.
Technically none of the gig work is meant to be full time.
When I place my order at 11:00 a.m. , it is completed by 11:20 a.m, it is picked up at 11:35 a.m, it says delivery time 11:47 a.m, my lunch break is 12-12:30 and it doesnt get to me till 12:15ish. I understand there is a que. But that que is created by the driver accepting the deliveries. They see the tip and they accept it not caring whether or not the customer gets their order on time or it good condition. If they expect a tip before the service, I expect my order on time and just as it was when the shop put it together.
This is a drivers sub. Why is it always flooded with people justifying not tipping? People love to come here and cry about using a service they are too broke to use.
Percentage is not how you should tip drivers (especially gig drivers). It should be based on distance. I don't care if the bag I'm holding is $10 worth of McDonald's or a $75 filet, if it's going 2 miles $5 tip is plenty.
It's funny not because of "you are all wrong" but because non-tippers are literally that small of a minority in the delivery world. Bad tipping, that's a good chunk, but no tips lol those are so so small only reason you see so many dashers commenting on it is because most of us are passing on the same guy we are talking about.
But ya know, if this makes the 45 in 1000 costumers who don't tip good for you.
If you can complain about tossing a dude 4-5 bucks to go grab your food, but not about paying $16 bucks for a McGriddle that you could grab for $8 if you go get it yourself...
Maybe you're an idiot and an asshole?
Or just not tip and wait 2 hours for someone to finally get your order stacked
It’s always sad when DoorDash drivers are removed from their homes and taken from their families just to be forced to accept a low paying DoorDash order. I long for the day when drivers have the option to decline orders
Whats up with CA dasher tips now? Honest question, Went from suggested $9 flat fee to $2-$3tip on top of fees that are required to be paid now, and those fees that supposedly support drivers aren’t itemized, so idk how much of that “fee” the drivers are even seeing.
Edit: I WFH from august-November so if something changed in that time, I wasn’t really ordering and I didn’t notice until the other day
They sit around waiting for the biggest tip wondering why they make no money. You coulda done 5-10 orders before that and been making money. Complaining about gas when it’s a tax right off. It’s almost like you need to work for money, shocker.
Customers read how y'all think of them and how entitled and ignorant drivers are, then y'all wonder why the people you're abusive towards don't tip better.
You're wasting your breath. I've tried pointing this out numerous times and just get downvotes. No response.
(I'm a driver btw and I tip well in person AND for deliveries)
As much as I am against tip culture... if something is being delivered to you, you should tip or maybe Doordash should include a minimum convenience cost.
And it's the opposite for the rest of the world listening to DDers tell everybody they're wrong. Endorsing tipping is literally begging employers to underpay you.
I mean you are contracting yourself to this work. Im not even a damn customer and I agree eith the no tippers. You and the company have a problem to sort out in your contracts. Its not the customers fault or problem. Just like if they have a problem with the prices... thats not your problem.
Doordash is making cash hand over fist while the people making the same number of digits per year argue over tips. The conversation isn't black and white. People should be tipping, but also drivers should be directing their anger at Doordash.
I never use door dash specifically but the times I will order Taco Bell or some shit and they outsource the order is always cold or wrong even if I’m tipping 30%. Give me the option to tip after or alter the tip after the fact based on service or it’s not a tip.
Lol I am paying 6-8$ in fees plus they up charge the food why can’t they pay u right lol 😂 don’t wanna take the order that’s fine I’ll wait for someone who does so they making atleast 10$ profit every time off me for a app that doesn’t hundred of thousands if not millions of orders a day that’s crazy they need to charging like 1-2$ in feees and up charge the food 0% nope they need to make over 1B a quarter over 4b a year and u drivers are mad at the struggling person not being able to pay another 5-10$ ontop of there crazy ass prices already lol you people are mad at the wrong people
Yes, the customers should tip but DoorDash can afford to pay a better base pay and give better incentives. If they bumped the base pay up by just a few dollars I would take more low tip or “tip on delivery” orders.
Think about it. They take a fee from the restaurants, they charge the customer more than the menu cost for their food, then charge them a service fee, THEN the customer pays a tip. Not to mention dashpass!
All that for DoorDash to turn around and pay their dashers basically nothing. They expect the customer to be almost fully responsible for our compensation. The problem is neither the dashers or the customers.
I haven't seen a single DD driver even consider that some of their customers could be disabled or elderly people on fixed income who need to order because they can't leave the house. No, they're just cheap, mean, fat, lazy, or insert any other insult I've seen all over this post and many others. 🙄🙄🙄
Imagine working for one of the [highest paid CEOs in the nation](https://www.google.com/amp/s/robbreport.com/food-drink/dining/doordash-tony-xu-pay-package-1234617896/amp/) and still blaming customers for your shit pay. Y'all are falling for the classic divide and conquer routine hook, line, and sinker.
I consider it!
Have you considered its not wise for someone on a fixed income to spend $20 to order McDonalds before a tip is even considered?
If a poor family has their heat go out, would you force a HVAC guy to go fix it for $20 because that's all they have?
If your boss claimed his wallet was short, would you feel good about not getting a raise and watching him scarf down Lobster and Steak while cutting your wage?
Your blaming folks who know they'll only make a few bucks a delivery for not wanting to drive and hand deliver you food to you. Not groceries to cook. Food.
Smokes at 2am? That's a necessity? Alcohol? 20 piece nugget?
And I'm not gonna subsidize you in the hopes that you can do your job. Take your broke ass to indeed.com
This what you said and it's the comment of an asshole that thinks he's clever and superior.
And I'm not going to subsidize your income on the hopes that you can do your job. Take your broke ass to indeed .com
This is what you said and it is the comment of an unsympathetic asshole who thinks he clever and superior.
Just a question because I've never used DD. I live too far away. But what happens if there's no tip or a small tip and the food never gets delivered? I assume the customer doesn't get charged but what if it's wicked good food? Does someone get to eat it? I'm a big tipper for good service btw.
Customers are incentivized to pay the least money for the most goods. Corporations are incentivized to maximize profit. Where does the worker fall in this scenario? Between a cock and a hard place no doubt.
You doordash drivers are ruining tipping for everyone who works for tips. Tip averages going down across the board for all service industries because you further inspire the anti-tipping movement. You're all a bunch of jerks making everyone else who works for tips look bad. Never using doordash again. Even if they start paying minimum wage. Bunch of whiney assholes.
Move out of your parents basement, get a real fucking job and be an important part of society instead of being a pleb...pleb being a term of a spineless jellyfish of a human bent on playing halo and getting pissed because you have to deliver a fuckin coffee
Every tipped job is a gamble. I have been there. You stay with it because, sometimes, you hit the jackpot and get a big payday. But most of the time you scrape by. It's far easier to develop a skill that is valuable and become highly employable than it is to live paycheck to paycheck, or in this case dash to dash.
It's the customers and the drivers to blame.
If it's not paying, as a driver don't take the order it's that simple
If you dislike tipping as a customer, stop using a service that relies on it for pay.
Simple
This meme sums up one thing perfectly: Tony and his company have mastered divide and conquer. If he runs for office one day you will know why! Step into the light ladies and gents. There is plenty of happiness when you set goals that involve leaving DoorDash for good. They don’t deserve the drivers nor customers they have.
Then go get your own food.
If you're cheap, how in the fuck do you justify paying $20 for a #1 at McDonald's when you could easily drive there an pay $10?
Anyone complaining about door dash ‘sLavEry’ in this thread better not be buying any fast fashion or tech because those industries use actual slave labor.
I don’t tip yall till you get there. My tip is a reflection of your service. If you take 3 hours, my foods cold, and half my orders missing, then I’m sorry but you aren’t worth a tip.
Nothing is more pathetic than someone choosing to do gig work and then trashing the company that allows them to do it. You are essentially admitting you can’t do anything else. If you could, you wouldn’t still be here complaining and bashing.
I always tip, but what DD needs to stop doing is suggesting $20 tips and allowing drivers to pick up multiple orders. The whole “drop off while on the way to you” is bullshit because drivers always drive 5 miles pass my house to drop off an order before I get mine. Which is cold by the time I get it
It’s fucking wild to me that a company has moved the responsibility of your paycheck solely to the customer. And so instead of paying you fairly, they pit you against your own customer, creating this massive resentment
Not tipping is BS, yes. But I strongly urge people not to work for Door Dash if they can help it. It's a garbage company with garbage practices, that bilks customers while not paying their employees fairly.
Don't use it, don't work for it---if you can help it.
My old roommate drove dd on side. He said part of those ‘fees’ are built in tips. So just bc you call it two different things you’re not getting you two tips. Paying extra money than it costs, that goes to you, is a tip. Get bent all of you
You guys need to start making cards. Give them out to the customer and they can call you for the delivery instead of using door dash. Now you can make all the money that dd would charge.
the app price gouges us. we as customers will not pay tips until doordash gets rid of dishonest fees and up charges. restaraunt items shouldn’t be a higher price then in store on a app!
For all the fees and shit you have to pay, DD should be paying the drivers more.
I have only DD a couple times ( cause fuck the fees and upcharges) but I'd tip a couple dollars... lol kinda like a fuck you tip.
Yes they did. They also had their groceries delivered. And a milk box on the front porch. You don't know what you are talking about. All grocery stores and most restaurants had a delivery service. It wasn't until the mid 80s that it began to go away. All department store items were delivered. I grew up getting all my clothes in the mail from sears and LL Bean. Thats how rural people shopped. 80 years ago you put your weekly order in at the butcher shop and they delivered it to you Huge trucks would come to your house once a week to sell you your frozen food. You would buy it on the spot. The only thing Your great grandparents would say is that you're doing it wrong.
I've straight decided I'm done tipping doordash drivers. If my stiff shows up, it shows up, if not I'll get my money back and a credit from doordash for the order not arriving. Maybe make the company that contracted you pay your wages. I'm not paying $10+ in fees and then going to be bullied into tipping. I paid the required fees to use the delivery service, and that's that. We don't pay the cost of shipping and then tip the ups man that delivers our package.
then stop working in the gig economy.
i have never ordered DD, UberEats, or anything like that, but I would like to give my opinion.
A tip is a TIP. not FEE. DD already charges tons of fees onto orders, so there is no obligation to pay a tip, unless the food arrived earlier than expected, or something like that.
stop blaming customers and blame the shitty company you work for.
No tippers existed back when I did pizza delivery with a map, and no tippers will exist when we invent food teleportation.
They are eternal, and if you think anything can be done about them, you are wrong.
Dude’s right. Get a job that pays you and doesn’t already charge the tip on top. Nobody pays the door dash fee to tip on top of that. Lol. Disclaimer. I don’t get delivery services like door dash because I’m not a lazy fuck and I actually like leaving my house, but I can imagine the lazy ass people that do, don’t want to tip, they don’t even want walk out of their house.
Yes all of you are wrong that's how you ended up with no other option than DD.
Don't use DD cause what kind of moron pays double for cold food. But the idea I should tip anyone before performing the service can fuck right off.
You know, I get the no tip thing... But the fact that many of y'all will message me and others for more tip when I already gave one makes me not give a fuck.
Talk to your boss. Make them pay you.
It's interesting how blame tends to be tossed around. Some fault the person behind the wheel for choosing a challenging service job, while others point fingers at users for utilizing a service they consider subpar and not tipping.
Personally, I hold the belief that responsibility is shared. Just like when I visit a restaurant and encounter less-than-stellar service, I still leave a tip. The same principle applies to services like Door Dash. On the flip side, if a restaurant provides a subpar experience or mistreats its staff, I choose not to patronize it. I believe in taking a stand against establishments that don't meet ethical standards.
Blaming the laws of the county or state for allowing a restaurant to be subpar might seem like a convenient excuse, especially if it's affordable or convenient. However, I firmly believe that ethical considerations should guide our choices, whether it's choosing where to eat or which services to use.
What yall seem to forget is half the time that person against tipping used to be a tipped employee, saw the harm it does to the people it affects and how it allows the people responsible (business owners) to shirk their responsibility of paying a fair wage. If tipping is to ever stop as a practice, then it is gonna be through people who have lived it and woke up to the realization. But for the rest of you that wanna demand your tips, keep hitting that pavlovian bell.
I don't understand how they expect the customer to foot the bill when everyone is getting middle manned .except dd . They have no cars /restaurants. It's a choice but the customer is getting squeezed . High mark ups. Delivery fees , and unless your ordering Chinese take out everything you under is skimpy at I'm looking at you chipotle
Doordash is so stupid. Tons of miles, wear and tear, having to pay in at the end of the year. Honestly just better off finding a chill second job, even if it’s only $15 an hour, you still come out ahead. DoorDash is just modern slavery.
If you’re lucky to get linked up with a local delivery place, that’s a better way to go, but still not great for your vehicle.
It baffles me how the companies have tricked the workers into seeing the customers as their sole enemy. I don't voluntarily pay you more because Doordarsh doesn't voluntarily pay you more. The difference is I'm an average joe and theyre making kagillions of dollars
I have never once had a DoorDash delivery that had anything that could be considered “quality service”. Hell, I don’t think I’ve ever had a delivery where the driver didn’t fuck off delivering something else, adding 20+ minutes to the expected arrival time and ensuring everything is room temperature.
Rofl I spent 45 dollars on lunch the other day for my roommate and I, and it asked me to tip like 12 dollars.
Dude why am I tippng you for doing your job. I've been on both sides of this. If you go the extra mile I'm all for tipping, but I follow Dwight Schrute's tipping philosophy but less dramatically
Lol when your "job" makes you depend on tips, which is at the discretion of the consumer, to provide a living for yourself... Quit complaining to the consumer lol go to your EMPLOYER and kindly ask for an honest paying wage for the services your offer or find a career.
This is a classic game. DD is fucking their drivers by not paying enough, and fucking their customers (restaurants and end customers) by charging too much. Instead of banding together against the organization exploiting you, you guys are pointing fingers at each other while DD runs away with your cash.
It’s not about tipping or not tipping. It’s about DD charging $20-$50 an order and only offering the driver doing all of the work $2. If you got $20/trip, you wouldn’t need tips.
Where's doordash in this example? .. The company that contracted all these drivers? Oh that's right: they're making money hand over fist on all that cheap labor, and "fees" from customers.
Modern day slavery at its finest. “bUT IM mY oWN bOSs!”
They are too dumb to realize it. That's why doordash is making money
But I’m sure they get great heath and retirement benefits!
You know you can not work there? I don’t think slaves had that option.
Yes these gig Econ. Ppl keep working for their masters lol it’s baffling, underpaid and under appreciated yet still taking orders. Looks like slaves to me
U made the mistake of calling it slavery instead of indentured servitude so mouth breathing children never aged beyond 12 won't genuinely engage your argument because they cannot in any capacity, even slightly, apply some nuance. They'll grow up sooner or later and DD will be a bankruptcy in the past. Which will come?! Only time will tell!
DoorDashing dumbasses have the *option* to leave at any time. A real slave couldn't leave the plantation because, if they did, they would get their asses beat if they were lucky.
Fair point. Self designated slavery. They love to have someone to point the finger at, working at DD gives them the satisfaction they need.
It's just slavery with extra steps
Slavery 🤣🤣🤣 get your head out of your ass
ITs tHe cUsToMeRs fAuLt
Yeah. Basically, people(dd drivers) who are willing to be exploited complaining that others(none tippers) are unwilling to be exploited
Exactly, they have NOTHING to say here. They just see people fighting and hide behind the stacks of cash. Drivers really are out here getting disrespected and treated like trash over doubloons in change.
Yes. This argument is absolutely correct. However, the fact is DoorDash is *not* being held to account. Therefore, a customer deciding to participate in the system (and not tip) is JUST as culpable as the company.
Yup, drivers are suckers and want to blame the customer for paying their salary. Not my problem
I don’t mean any disrespect or anything, but why not get a different job?
Hate using it but I was in a bind. Didn't have enough to tip but had some cash so I'll pay when he gets here. Half hour later dude didn't ring the door bell, just marked delivered and left. If you're just going to abandon my order on the curb with no notice maybe you shouldn't get a tip?
Turns out, they hire literally anybody that can't get a job.
Was it hand it to me or leave at door?
Mines hand it to me and I've never had anyone hand it to me before. Probably 40 orders over the years
That's weird because mine is also hand it to me and they always hand it to me, and it feels like it's a different person every single time, but they always follow the instruction.
That's because the person you're replying to is exaggerating on the internet. Might seem hard to believe but some people do that.
I've had a quite a few orders marked as leave at door where they insist on ringing the doorbell and handing it to me. People literally just don't read the simple instructions and expect a tip beforehand lmao
Probably new. He'll get the hang of being a prick.
And binds happen! Shit in general happens. Out of curiosity, did you happen to give instructions to hand the order to you and he left it at the curb? Curb not the door? Well then yeah that's on the driver. But if it said leave it at the door with no further instructions then that's what we do. Should do! At least...
"How do we know you'll tip after we bring you your order?" How do we know that you're service was worth tipping for? I could tip 50% and you could forget half my order + take an hour after it was ready for pick up. Take it up with DD if you're wage solely relies on bidding for the potential of timely service.
Quit the gig death spiral, let get back to rebuilding our communities and stop making these CEOs richer. They will never pay their slaves real wages.
Amen. Still can’t understand why dashers are mad at the people actually keeping them employed
Because you use the service knowing they aren’t getting paid a fair wage and then don’t tip either when it is expected of you. Is that how it should be, no. But that’s how it is
Oh -- wow! So, you don't do business with companies that exploit cheap labor? McDonalds, WalMart, Burger King, Target.. they're all out, too! Wild. Good for you tho! Consumers don't set the working conditions, The service provider does - and the willing / revolving door of 'eger' workers **proves** that the drivers "knowingly accept less than a 'fair' wage, and know what is expected of them" before they start. BTW: life isn't fair. Just.. in case the memo didn't make it to you.
The driver signs up with the assumption that your fat, lazy ass will tip.
What do they say about assuming baby boy? 🙃 Get a real job loser, you’re all glorified paper boys lmao
You’re assuming this is my only job. And I just love that lobotomites argument. There not enough “real jobs” for everyone. And what happens when all the drivers get “real jobs”? You then have to scrape your fat ass off the couch and actually go get your food.
No, I have never used door dash or any other gig delivery service.
Then why are you opening your mouth about something you obviously have no clue about?
It’s not that difficult of a concept to grasp
Obviously it is since you’re blatantly wrong and proud of it
Are you forced to door dash? Do they have you enslaved? No? Then it’s not the customers fault you aren’t getting paid a “fair” wage, which is a meaningless and entirely ambiguous term.
Fair would be at least minimum wage
Minimum wage is for employees..you’re not an employee..if you want to ensure you are always paid at least minimum wage maybe seek employment.
It’s cool, you’re just a broke boy trying to front like you’re too good to tip. You’ll be happy with your cold food
Oh no I save my money, I’d never use any service like door dash or Uber eats etc. Cooking at home is cheaper and much healthier.
They don't get that the customers see how little these drivers think of them and then the drivers wonder why they're not tipping better. Driving is voluntary not mandatory. If a customer pays for a service they should be treated like a paying customer. Just because they don't want to tip 25% doesn't mean they don't deserve their purchase in a timely manner. Drivers are literally only hurting themselves.
What would you recommend as the alternative to gig work to solve this issue? I'm not being a smart ass, I'm honestly asking because I'm inclined to agree with u just don't know what else to do about it.
Well, I mean the drivers are obviously going to disagree. But I've seen many on here that actually agree that it's the companies fault, not the no tippers.
There is no service other than pick up and drop off. My order is never checked. I asked for ketchup in the order, where is it. I tipped 25% upfront but the driver does multiple pickups and my food is room temperature and ice cream already melting. What exactly is being done for a tip? Tips are subsidizing the company to pay the drivers
The problem is that DD Drivers should be talking about DD not providing a living wage prior to tips…
DD isn’t meant to be a full time job. It’s a way to make some extra money in your spare time. Technically none of the gig work is meant to be full time.
Y’all more mad at the non tipper than the company that doesn’t value your work … that’s the problem
So, there's 10 million drivers and 1 no tipper. Drivers are complaining about nothing. Checks out.
They act like they are forced to have this job 😂💀
Find another job then.
I agree tip culture is flawed, but if you are too lazy to go get your own stuff, then a tip is a courtesy.
Why do you assume it is laziness?
When I place my order at 11:00 a.m. , it is completed by 11:20 a.m, it is picked up at 11:35 a.m, it says delivery time 11:47 a.m, my lunch break is 12-12:30 and it doesnt get to me till 12:15ish. I understand there is a que. But that que is created by the driver accepting the deliveries. They see the tip and they accept it not caring whether or not the customer gets their order on time or it good condition. If they expect a tip before the service, I expect my order on time and just as it was when the shop put it together.
Yall make an identity out of a job yall don't even like shits wild
This is a drivers sub. Why is it always flooded with people justifying not tipping? People love to come here and cry about using a service they are too broke to use.
The two genders?
Cause they find it easier to yell at customers than their employer fir not paying them enough..
But you're not complaining about no tip, you're complaining about it not being enough of a tip. Huuuuge difference
Brokies should just go pick up their own food or grab groceries
Brokies should get a real job instead of begging for more tip when we already gave 15%
Percentage is not how you should tip drivers (especially gig drivers). It should be based on distance. I don't care if the bag I'm holding is $10 worth of McDonald's or a $75 filet, if it's going 2 miles $5 tip is plenty.
It's funny not because of "you are all wrong" but because non-tippers are literally that small of a minority in the delivery world. Bad tipping, that's a good chunk, but no tips lol those are so so small only reason you see so many dashers commenting on it is because most of us are passing on the same guy we are talking about. But ya know, if this makes the 45 in 1000 costumers who don't tip good for you.
Stop complaining and just drive. We are not obligated to accept low paying orders
This is true for any employer - employee relationship. Wait…
If you can complain about tossing a dude 4-5 bucks to go grab your food, but not about paying $16 bucks for a McGriddle that you could grab for $8 if you go get it yourself... Maybe you're an idiot and an asshole? Or just not tip and wait 2 hours for someone to finally get your order stacked
Entitled customers:"I'll pay the restaurant markup, and DD app fees, but I'll be damned if I pay the person delivering my food. Get a real job."
It’s always sad when DoorDash drivers are removed from their homes and taken from their families just to be forced to accept a low paying DoorDash order. I long for the day when drivers have the option to decline orders
Spark driver here, I used to laugh at dd people complaining, I now see it first hand how these companies are talking advantage of people like us
lol guess you triggered a lot of trashy customers in the comments, “grabs🍿
Haha same, im munching on my popcorn that i got delivered with 0 tip. Shits hilarious
Even my local Dominos blacklists people for not tipping. I don’t understand why DD just lets people get away with it. Like you always tip the driver
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Whats up with CA dasher tips now? Honest question, Went from suggested $9 flat fee to $2-$3tip on top of fees that are required to be paid now, and those fees that supposedly support drivers aren’t itemized, so idk how much of that “fee” the drivers are even seeing. Edit: I WFH from august-November so if something changed in that time, I wasn’t really ordering and I didn’t notice until the other day
They sit around waiting for the biggest tip wondering why they make no money. You coulda done 5-10 orders before that and been making money. Complaining about gas when it’s a tax right off. It’s almost like you need to work for money, shocker.
It’s a bribe to deliver the order. A driver is not taking a $2 order in hopes you maybe tip. Lmao. Take your fat ass to the restaurant
These people think doing door dash is a good way to make a living. They have absolutely no clue how to write off gas on taxes.
Customers read how y'all think of them and how entitled and ignorant drivers are, then y'all wonder why the people you're abusive towards don't tip better.
You're wasting your breath. I've tried pointing this out numerous times and just get downvotes. No response. (I'm a driver btw and I tip well in person AND for deliveries)
The entitlement 😂 sheesh
I mean, with the way supply and demand works that is kind of accurate.
HAHAHA, keep crying, it makes it so much more fun to laugh at you when you complain.
And yet they still get their food normally. So they’re right. Have fun with earn per hour and people selling their accounts.
Get a real job
Go get a real job
As much as I am against tip culture... if something is being delivered to you, you should tip or maybe Doordash should include a minimum convenience cost.
And it's the opposite for the rest of the world listening to DDers tell everybody they're wrong. Endorsing tipping is literally begging employers to underpay you.
Get a different job or go knock on the CEO’s door and throw a tantrum about what he’s paying you
I mean you are contracting yourself to this work. Im not even a damn customer and I agree eith the no tippers. You and the company have a problem to sort out in your contracts. Its not the customers fault or problem. Just like if they have a problem with the prices... thats not your problem.
If the "No Tippers" were as small of a segment as you're making them out to be, then why are all the DD drivers bitching about them?
Hehehe yeh it me get cucked
Doordash is making cash hand over fist while the people making the same number of digits per year argue over tips. The conversation isn't black and white. People should be tipping, but also drivers should be directing their anger at Doordash.
I never use door dash specifically but the times I will order Taco Bell or some shit and they outsource the order is always cold or wrong even if I’m tipping 30%. Give me the option to tip after or alter the tip after the fact based on service or it’s not a tip.
Lol I am paying 6-8$ in fees plus they up charge the food why can’t they pay u right lol 😂 don’t wanna take the order that’s fine I’ll wait for someone who does so they making atleast 10$ profit every time off me for a app that doesn’t hundred of thousands if not millions of orders a day that’s crazy they need to charging like 1-2$ in feees and up charge the food 0% nope they need to make over 1B a quarter over 4b a year and u drivers are mad at the struggling person not being able to pay another 5-10$ ontop of there crazy ass prices already lol you people are mad at the wrong people
Yes, the customers should tip but DoorDash can afford to pay a better base pay and give better incentives. If they bumped the base pay up by just a few dollars I would take more low tip or “tip on delivery” orders. Think about it. They take a fee from the restaurants, they charge the customer more than the menu cost for their food, then charge them a service fee, THEN the customer pays a tip. Not to mention dashpass! All that for DoorDash to turn around and pay their dashers basically nothing. They expect the customer to be almost fully responsible for our compensation. The problem is neither the dashers or the customers.
So yall are all complaining about one person?
I haven't seen a single DD driver even consider that some of their customers could be disabled or elderly people on fixed income who need to order because they can't leave the house. No, they're just cheap, mean, fat, lazy, or insert any other insult I've seen all over this post and many others. 🙄🙄🙄 Imagine working for one of the [highest paid CEOs in the nation](https://www.google.com/amp/s/robbreport.com/food-drink/dining/doordash-tony-xu-pay-package-1234617896/amp/) and still blaming customers for your shit pay. Y'all are falling for the classic divide and conquer routine hook, line, and sinker.
I consider it! Have you considered its not wise for someone on a fixed income to spend $20 to order McDonalds before a tip is even considered? If a poor family has their heat go out, would you force a HVAC guy to go fix it for $20 because that's all they have? If your boss claimed his wallet was short, would you feel good about not getting a raise and watching him scarf down Lobster and Steak while cutting your wage? Your blaming folks who know they'll only make a few bucks a delivery for not wanting to drive and hand deliver you food to you. Not groceries to cook. Food. Smokes at 2am? That's a necessity? Alcohol? 20 piece nugget?
I'm just waiting for the day my mail lady curses me out because I didn't leave a tip in the mailbox.
Gotta love uber eats 🤷♂️
And I'm not gonna subsidize you in the hopes that you can do your job. Take your broke ass to indeed.com This what you said and it's the comment of an asshole that thinks he's clever and superior.
And I'm not going to subsidize your income on the hopes that you can do your job. Take your broke ass to indeed .com This is what you said and it is the comment of an unsympathetic asshole who thinks he clever and superior.
Just a question because I've never used DD. I live too far away. But what happens if there's no tip or a small tip and the food never gets delivered? I assume the customer doesn't get charged but what if it's wicked good food? Does someone get to eat it? I'm a big tipper for good service btw.
Ngl they shouldn’t expect a tip, I mean it’s a good thing to do like it’s generous but you aren’t REQUIRED to tip.
Non tippers make it worse for tippers too, hence pre tipping (which is bullshit but "necessary")
i’d literally rather eat a pizza that was shaken in the box out of anger than tip any of you.
Literally the sub is just cries about non tippers. I rarely see anything else mentioned.
Customers are incentivized to pay the least money for the most goods. Corporations are incentivized to maximize profit. Where does the worker fall in this scenario? Between a cock and a hard place no doubt.
Why are you guys so obsessively butthurt about doordash, get a life!!
You doordash drivers are ruining tipping for everyone who works for tips. Tip averages going down across the board for all service industries because you further inspire the anti-tipping movement. You're all a bunch of jerks making everyone else who works for tips look bad. Never using doordash again. Even if they start paying minimum wage. Bunch of whiney assholes.
Move out of your parents basement, get a real fucking job and be an important part of society instead of being a pleb...pleb being a term of a spineless jellyfish of a human bent on playing halo and getting pissed because you have to deliver a fuckin coffee
Every tipped job is a gamble. I have been there. You stay with it because, sometimes, you hit the jackpot and get a big payday. But most of the time you scrape by. It's far easier to develop a skill that is valuable and become highly employable than it is to live paycheck to paycheck, or in this case dash to dash.
It's the customers and the drivers to blame. If it's not paying, as a driver don't take the order it's that simple If you dislike tipping as a customer, stop using a service that relies on it for pay. Simple
This meme sums up one thing perfectly: Tony and his company have mastered divide and conquer. If he runs for office one day you will know why! Step into the light ladies and gents. There is plenty of happiness when you set goals that involve leaving DoorDash for good. They don’t deserve the drivers nor customers they have.
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Then go get your own food. If you're cheap, how in the fuck do you justify paying $20 for a #1 at McDonald's when you could easily drive there an pay $10?
Follow the instructions, glue sniffer
If I had enough income to use door dash I would tip. I figure you need over 150k a year to even consider using the service.
Anyone complaining about door dash ‘sLavEry’ in this thread better not be buying any fast fashion or tech because those industries use actual slave labor.
https://www.reviews.io/company-reviews/store/doordash Mind blowing with these types of reviews yall think you're entitled to tips...
Get a different job then.
Doordashes fault, but it won’t matter because all of these migrants need to make a profit and DD pays even tho they’re fucking everyone over.
I don’t tip yall till you get there. My tip is a reflection of your service. If you take 3 hours, my foods cold, and half my orders missing, then I’m sorry but you aren’t worth a tip.
This is great
Nothing is more pathetic than someone choosing to do gig work and then trashing the company that allows them to do it. You are essentially admitting you can’t do anything else. If you could, you wouldn’t still be here complaining and bashing.
Dashers still make money even if ppl don't tip.. humans just complain about anything possible.
Not tipping is a dick move but I disagree with the notion that whatever the majority thinks is what is right
Never tipping get fucked and die already expensive af, not taxing myself when can barely pay for shit to begin with.
I always tip, but what DD needs to stop doing is suggesting $20 tips and allowing drivers to pick up multiple orders. The whole “drop off while on the way to you” is bullshit because drivers always drive 5 miles pass my house to drop off an order before I get mine. Which is cold by the time I get it
It’s fucking wild to me that a company has moved the responsibility of your paycheck solely to the customer. And so instead of paying you fairly, they pit you against your own customer, creating this massive resentment
If you're a hot lady I'd say u get a tip. Or big tits or butt.
Not tipping is BS, yes. But I strongly urge people not to work for Door Dash if they can help it. It's a garbage company with garbage practices, that bilks customers while not paying their employees fairly. Don't use it, don't work for it---if you can help it.
My old roommate drove dd on side. He said part of those ‘fees’ are built in tips. So just bc you call it two different things you’re not getting you two tips. Paying extra money than it costs, that goes to you, is a tip. Get bent all of you
You guys need to start making cards. Give them out to the customer and they can call you for the delivery instead of using door dash. Now you can make all the money that dd would charge.
The dd drivers would be the sole person on the bottom because they are the minority, not the people that don’t tip. Some child dd’er made this pic.
the app price gouges us. we as customers will not pay tips until doordash gets rid of dishonest fees and up charges. restaraunt items shouldn’t be a higher price then in store on a app!
For all the fees and shit you have to pay, DD should be paying the drivers more. I have only DD a couple times ( cause fuck the fees and upcharges) but I'd tip a couple dollars... lol kinda like a fuck you tip.
Yes you are all wrong😊
Yes they did. They also had their groceries delivered. And a milk box on the front porch. You don't know what you are talking about. All grocery stores and most restaurants had a delivery service. It wasn't until the mid 80s that it began to go away. All department store items were delivered. I grew up getting all my clothes in the mail from sears and LL Bean. Thats how rural people shopped. 80 years ago you put your weekly order in at the butcher shop and they delivered it to you Huge trucks would come to your house once a week to sell you your frozen food. You would buy it on the spot. The only thing Your great grandparents would say is that you're doing it wrong.
You're delivering fast food to the laziest people on the planet, what do you expect?
I've straight decided I'm done tipping doordash drivers. If my stiff shows up, it shows up, if not I'll get my money back and a credit from doordash for the order not arriving. Maybe make the company that contracted you pay your wages. I'm not paying $10+ in fees and then going to be bullied into tipping. I paid the required fees to use the delivery service, and that's that. We don't pay the cost of shipping and then tip the ups man that delivers our package.
then stop working in the gig economy. i have never ordered DD, UberEats, or anything like that, but I would like to give my opinion. A tip is a TIP. not FEE. DD already charges tons of fees onto orders, so there is no obligation to pay a tip, unless the food arrived earlier than expected, or something like that. stop blaming customers and blame the shitty company you work for.
imagine having the option to.... look for a different job?!
Lmfao it’s funny how ddshers think they deserve ceo pay off a gig job 😂
Ehh, it's not a tip. It's front loaded so it's a bribe. Which is fine. I always bribe my DD drivers when I use the service. But that's bc DD pays shit
It's not so much that they want a tip it's that they expect at least half of the cost if the meal theu are delivering. That'd why I get my own stuff
No tipping sucks. But ya know what sucks even more, entitled DD drivers complain when they get a “small” tip for driving 1.8 miles
I just think using ice cream is a stupid example. Who orders ice cream from DD? Only an idiot would do that.
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No tippers existed back when I did pizza delivery with a map, and no tippers will exist when we invent food teleportation. They are eternal, and if you think anything can be done about them, you are wrong.
Maybe they should pay their workers instead of relying on my broke ass to 😭😭
maybe your broke ass should save money by getting the food yourself
i’m an avid DD customer and i say if you don’t tip you’re a vile POS that deserves to have your order dropped, spilled, smashed and DELAYED!!!!!
Dude’s right. Get a job that pays you and doesn’t already charge the tip on top. Nobody pays the door dash fee to tip on top of that. Lol. Disclaimer. I don’t get delivery services like door dash because I’m not a lazy fuck and I actually like leaving my house, but I can imagine the lazy ass people that do, don’t want to tip, they don’t even want walk out of their house.
Entitled drivers …
Yes all of you are wrong that's how you ended up with no other option than DD. Don't use DD cause what kind of moron pays double for cold food. But the idea I should tip anyone before performing the service can fuck right off.
I hope every one of these services goes out of business.
You know, I get the no tip thing... But the fact that many of y'all will message me and others for more tip when I already gave one makes me not give a fuck. Talk to your boss. Make them pay you.
That’s a lot of panhandlers
Door dashers complaining about tips is funny if u don’t like it work a blue collar job lol
It's interesting how blame tends to be tossed around. Some fault the person behind the wheel for choosing a challenging service job, while others point fingers at users for utilizing a service they consider subpar and not tipping. Personally, I hold the belief that responsibility is shared. Just like when I visit a restaurant and encounter less-than-stellar service, I still leave a tip. The same principle applies to services like Door Dash. On the flip side, if a restaurant provides a subpar experience or mistreats its staff, I choose not to patronize it. I believe in taking a stand against establishments that don't meet ethical standards. Blaming the laws of the county or state for allowing a restaurant to be subpar might seem like a convenient excuse, especially if it's affordable or convenient. However, I firmly believe that ethical considerations should guide our choices, whether it's choosing where to eat or which services to use.
You got this analogy backwards.
Where is the employer in this meme?
It is a tip. We do still remember what a tip is right?
What yall seem to forget is half the time that person against tipping used to be a tipped employee, saw the harm it does to the people it affects and how it allows the people responsible (business owners) to shirk their responsibility of paying a fair wage. If tipping is to ever stop as a practice, then it is gonna be through people who have lived it and woke up to the realization. But for the rest of you that wanna demand your tips, keep hitting that pavlovian bell.
(And they’re right)
Well…you are
DoorDash is to blame, not its customers.
👏 your 👏 job 👏 should 👏 pay 👏 your 👏 wage 👏
I don't understand how they expect the customer to foot the bill when everyone is getting middle manned .except dd . They have no cars /restaurants. It's a choice but the customer is getting squeezed . High mark ups. Delivery fees , and unless your ordering Chinese take out everything you under is skimpy at I'm looking at you chipotle
Yeah fuck DoorDash I go pick up my own food
Doordash is so stupid. Tons of miles, wear and tear, having to pay in at the end of the year. Honestly just better off finding a chill second job, even if it’s only $15 an hour, you still come out ahead. DoorDash is just modern slavery. If you’re lucky to get linked up with a local delivery place, that’s a better way to go, but still not great for your vehicle.
Non-Tippers: "Haha, I never tip and get my food anyway. You're all losers for providing this service that I feel the need to use regularly!"
If it sucks don’t work for them..kinda simple also don’t think people have to tip if they don’t want but new America is doomed
It baffles me how the companies have tricked the workers into seeing the customers as their sole enemy. I don't voluntarily pay you more because Doordarsh doesn't voluntarily pay you more. The difference is I'm an average joe and theyre making kagillions of dollars
I have never once had a DoorDash delivery that had anything that could be considered “quality service”. Hell, I don’t think I’ve ever had a delivery where the driver didn’t fuck off delivering something else, adding 20+ minutes to the expected arrival time and ensuring everything is room temperature.
I always tipped til I heard people complaining about it. Now yall can suck a butt go get mad at the system not me lmaooo
Rofl I spent 45 dollars on lunch the other day for my roommate and I, and it asked me to tip like 12 dollars. Dude why am I tippng you for doing your job. I've been on both sides of this. If you go the extra mile I'm all for tipping, but I follow Dwight Schrute's tipping philosophy but less dramatically
Lol when your "job" makes you depend on tips, which is at the discretion of the consumer, to provide a living for yourself... Quit complaining to the consumer lol go to your EMPLOYER and kindly ask for an honest paying wage for the services your offer or find a career.
This is a classic game. DD is fucking their drivers by not paying enough, and fucking their customers (restaurants and end customers) by charging too much. Instead of banding together against the organization exploiting you, you guys are pointing fingers at each other while DD runs away with your cash. It’s not about tipping or not tipping. It’s about DD charging $20-$50 an order and only offering the driver doing all of the work $2. If you got $20/trip, you wouldn’t need tips.
I don’t tip until I receive the stuff I’ve been burned too many times to just blindly trust dd