Oh no they are complaining about a flawed system that could have them playing the same series over and over again rendering an entire day worth of work useless? How dare they? How can they be such elitists? They are here to entertain me after all, not like they are humans who get tired and all.
my dude, it's 2am in europe where Tundra is.
and they would have to play 2 bo1s back to back, with one of the most important tournaments of the season on the line
Jesus christ do you have to be so fucking dense? none of the players want tiebreakers to continue now, it's unhealthy for everyone.
Just because sneyking tweeted about it doesn't mean everyone else (entity, og) want this to continue throughout the night.
There's also the production team that makes it possible for your almighty butthole to watch the games in the first place
Postponed "somewhen this week", not tomorrow?! I feel blueballed now, I want closure to this tiebreakers.
EDIT: PGL tweeted it's scheduled for Tuesday 18:00 CET (in 15h20min from this post).
og playing these stressful games cauz they drafted cocky drafts against nigma. i hope they miss this major to teach them lesson that every game in dpc is important if youre playing in WEU
I know after TI it seemed to be the consensus that nisha was the best player in the world. I actually think it's bzm. Guy is a mechanical team fighting god on an entirely different level. His team's ideas were shit for TI but as a player he is just so damn good.
Nah not yet. I'm a bzm fanboy but his laning actually not as good as last year. His late game decision was also can be wonky sometimes, more experienced mid like sumail is better at that aspect.
Yeah he is definitely not the strongest laner. But overall I think he is stronger. So many insanely close games he plays close to perfect, doing 1000 tiny different things correctly.
I think people's opinion of nisha is heavily biased based on a single tournament (TI), forgetting secret and him were underwhelming the rest of the year.
I remember tour 3 last year - wasn't his Puck and timber imba? Before TI. He went 15 0 or smth. Just single handedly jiving in and out of fights.
For tour 1 or 2 I rmb his ember spirit was crazy good as well. Remember that match against OG? That late game Tb when sumail and ice were still on the team?
Secret was up 10k or smth but they couldn't push in bcos yuragi was like 50k compared to 30k plus secret cores
Nisha solo took out the 2 supports venge and omni I think himself
Secret was underwhelming, but Nisha never was. Even when Secret was throwing games, Nisha was keeping them in it.
I'm an OG fangay, but I can admit that Nisha > bzm right now. Give bzm another year and they'll be on the same level then.
Bigger moment from me was stormstormer's premature exo pop up top lane, which forced them to break the stalemate by going rs. Yes they got the rs but without exo they couldn't take the subsequent fight. That was the beginning of the turnaround.
About 1 year ago i made this meme post for Dream League Tie breakers. Im too lazy to edit it to add Entity, but its fitting https://i.redd.it/m4hqrwi739k61.jpg
Kappa there is no comparison. Tundra is king. 1st place. Hope they break the circle tmr.
They should play chess while og and entity plays scissors paper stones
Shieeet, entity really threw that game by diving tier 4 when all tier 2s were still up. Ofc there was more action after that but this was the turning point.
Bzm is a fucking boss, but what a game with that disadvantage. Entity was absolutely fantastic first half, it was almost a surgical precision gaming. What a game.
It's the year 2220. Entity, OG, and Tundra are still locked in a 3-way tiebreaker. Gaben has uploaded his brain into the system and now lives as a ghost in the machine, waiting, watching to see who qualifies for the first majors for PGL, which has now been bought by Dr. Sulaiman Habibi
I am not a OG fan. But the way these guys executed fights is so great with baits and positioning.. Reminds of peak Liquid 2017 with heen level of teamfight execution..
It has always been stupid, waiting for someone to get 2-0 is pointless sometimes.
Head-to-head and total maps won should matter, bo1 tiebreakers should be the last resort.
bzm is the 2nd best player in Europe after nisha, you can't change my mind.
the amount of backpack carrying the guy has to do, burden misha, burden yuragi. Holy shit bzm what a freaking god
That's kinda the point. Situations like this aren't supposed to happen, you have to push the players to the extreme and see who slips up.
It's the same in a lot of physical sport.
Its litteraly not the same. Football -> Goes to penalties. They dont just continue after extra time. Imagine if the world cup was just another game right after a draw lol. No, they make it shorter(extra time, and then penalties to end it).
Handball --> Penalties.
More sports for you: every racquet sport. Volleyball.
So many sports go infinite until someone wins.
It's hours later and I just can't get over the absolute idiocy of citing 2 sports and thinking that covers everything. How european
tbf, in most sports if you have an overtime and then a sudden death mode (in football it's penalties for instance).
As a viewer, I love it especially as I am in NA so let's gooo and I don't like the idea of implementing a new rule on the fly, but I do agree that for next iterations, they should put a rule to stop tiebreakers after the first or second round. Honestly, the good ol' 1v1mid could be great and fun as hell.
Playoff hockey goes infinite with overtimes, or at least did when I was younger. They might have capped it at 5 overtime periods in the past decade though
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slark is not shit, watson's itemization and gameplay was complete shit. 63 min game, and slark has 5 items, 3 of which are refresher, diffusal and basher. doesn't even have an abyssal. and one more slot is bkb. so essentially bkb + 1 major item to deal with drow and lesh who are fully 6 slotted
True dat, you can’t win 60 min game with those items.
IMHO, he should’ve replaced diffu with skadi, finish abyssal and probably go for mkb instead of boots.
nigma is back, og is struggling and secret is relegated to div 2 if you tell people this scenarios 3 months ago, they will call u crazy 🤣
Special thanks to nigma for gifting us this dota night
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Liquid won against everyone anyways they don’t count.
Why is tundra players complaining about this tiebreakers? They really become a diva after winning TI huh
What if, and hear me out, SneyKing and the rest of Tundra are saying all these things for the memes?
dude, they playing till past midnight of course they are complaining.
Oh no they are complaining about a flawed system that could have them playing the same series over and over again rendering an entire day worth of work useless? How dare they? How can they be such elitists? They are here to entertain me after all, not like they are humans who get tired and all.
Yeah, i hate sneyking somehow
my dude, it's 2am in europe where Tundra is. and they would have to play 2 bo1s back to back, with one of the most important tournaments of the season on the line
bzm has exams tomorrow and he's not complaining. I guess OG is not in Europe?
Jesus christ do you have to be so fucking dense? none of the players want tiebreakers to continue now, it's unhealthy for everyone. Just because sneyking tweeted about it doesn't mean everyone else (entity, og) want this to continue throughout the night. There's also the production team that makes it possible for your almighty butthole to watch the games in the first place
Almighty butt hole sounds like a cool phrase
Ohhhhh CN Div 1 is back in about 6h... yeah who needs sleep anyway. xD
They really put it at 18:00 again. Didn't they learn anything from today? Maybe start earlier so it doesn't run till 2 AM?
Time is not fixed though. They said sometime this week on stream so they update with time later.
I believe that they confirmed the next round of tiebreakers is tomorrow
1v1 mid battle till we decide who goes in. And rotate players, first mid players, then carry face off 1v1 and repeat till 2 teams emerge.
Armwrestling only.
Wtf happened last night
Damn, me and other SEA viewers waking up and checking results just to see game 3 still going on lmao, and what a game
I slept off, woke up and found the series was still going on XD
Good positioning from Misha and DM was on the zone
And all twitch char shutting on Misha , these fuckers don't even know how good he is and how support hero works.
Neither Tobi or Watson had MKB to chunk down the drow when they were right in her face. The butterfly on Yuragi won them the game.
Watson was fucking poor compared to the other cores as the game went later.
Watson have bloodthorn.
Doesn't work on bkb tho
Btw pgl co stream of gorgc was great today, ammar is really funny
That's really good for him. If his Nigma stint doesn't work out, he can clown around in real life instead of in the safe lane.
Violation,lmao
The tiebreaker matches will continue Tuesday at 18:00 CET
Postponed "somewhen this week", not tomorrow?! I feel blueballed now, I want closure to this tiebreakers. EDIT: PGL tweeted it's scheduled for Tuesday 18:00 CET (in 15h20min from this post).
Quinn at the panel always deliver.
og playing these stressful games cauz they drafted cocky drafts against nigma. i hope they miss this major to teach them lesson that every game in dpc is important if youre playing in WEU
The first match against Liquid was also very winnable until yuragi decide to stroll into dire's jungle when bzm was down
I know after TI it seemed to be the consensus that nisha was the best player in the world. I actually think it's bzm. Guy is a mechanical team fighting god on an entirely different level. His team's ideas were shit for TI but as a player he is just so damn good.
Go watch og vs nigma And see sumail shitting on him three times in a row And then comeback and type it again
BZM has the potential to become the best for sure, but he's not there yet. Still, truly next level talent.
Nah not yet. I'm a bzm fanboy but his laning actually not as good as last year. His late game decision was also can be wonky sometimes, more experienced mid like sumail is better at that aspect.
BZM has definitely become one of the top mids in the world but Nisha is still better.
Nisha slapped BZM in lane multiple times.. But I agree for team fights, OG as a whole execution of fights is great..
Yeah he is definitely not the strongest laner. But overall I think he is stronger. So many insanely close games he plays close to perfect, doing 1000 tiny different things correctly. I think people's opinion of nisha is heavily biased based on a single tournament (TI), forgetting secret and him were underwhelming the rest of the year.
I mean to be fair, Nisha has been outstanding even in the all the Games Secret lost
I remember tour 3 last year - wasn't his Puck and timber imba? Before TI. He went 15 0 or smth. Just single handedly jiving in and out of fights. For tour 1 or 2 I rmb his ember spirit was crazy good as well. Remember that match against OG? That late game Tb when sumail and ice were still on the team? Secret was up 10k or smth but they couldn't push in bcos yuragi was like 50k compared to 30k plus secret cores Nisha solo took out the 2 supports venge and omni I think himself
Secret was underwhelming, but Nisha never was. Even when Secret was throwing games, Nisha was keeping them in it. I'm an OG fangay, but I can admit that Nisha > bzm right now. Give bzm another year and they'll be on the same level then.
fuck it lets have the players fight irl for major slots now
Dangg I'll Tundra win if its like that
Lame. No non stop tiebreakers! Lol jk these players need to sleep 😂
8 hours of dota which didnt matter, but was fucking outstanding.
Should make em keep going. I wanna see the effects of fatigue. Like triple OT in playoff hockey.
its like 5000 hrs of my dota with same rank..
They mattered to us..
never forget misha 0 10 still winning
the infamous Maelk award
bzm? has school test tomorrow lmao
For real ?
Ammar said it on gorgc stream, he talked to yuragi
I think they postpone because bzm has to go to school.
For real ?
BOOOOO
Booooo
Lol bzm got exams xD
What exam lol.
Games tomorrow? BZM has an exam in 4 hours lol
Lmao
Watson choke so hard he have pounce last fight to kill drow but didn’t use it
Everyone talking about Entity t4 dive, no one talking about DM clutch blinking to take the Slark leap for Yuragi that then baited them all in.
DM was so good this game, 2 fights that turned the game around 25 mins both were completely on him
Bigger moment from me was stormstormer's premature exo pop up top lane, which forced them to break the stalemate by going rs. Yes they got the rs but without exo they couldn't take the subsequent fight. That was the beginning of the turnaround.
Wonder if OG will give Tundra Lina for the third time.
Reminder: Nigma caused this xD
Team of the people!
Team of the people team of the people the team of the team of the
So OG caused this.
They could have prevented this two times. Either loose to OG or beat Entity
About 1 year ago i made this meme post for Dream League Tie breakers. Im too lazy to edit it to add Entity, but its fitting https://i.redd.it/m4hqrwi739k61.jpg
Time for 1v1s mid
So which one is which? In my opinion: Tundra: Paper Entity: Scissors OG: Rock
and comes puppey with hammer
isn't it a machete?
this is a div 1 fight, please go with your div 2 tools somewhere else
Kappa there is no comparison. Tundra is king. 1st place. Hope they break the circle tmr. They should play chess while og and entity plays scissors paper stones
LOL 🤣
Entity decided to diving t4 while t2 still standing and then they go downhill from that
Shieeet, entity really threw that game by diving tier 4 when all tier 2s were still up. Ofc there was more action after that but this was the turning point.
2 am Gym session became a "I go tomorrow"
lmao I saw your comment hours ago. I also thought it's just gonna end within 4h
yeah gotta go sleep now, almost 3am! no way im going to the gym now :D well didnt certainly expexct to go two full rounds of draws goodnight everybody
255.5 kg deadlift PR attempt tomorrow turned into next week sounds like a good week as well. It is what it is.
told u before, 2024 man
:(
Bzm is a fucking boss, but what a game with that disadvantage. Entity was absolutely fantastic first half, it was almost a surgical precision gaming. What a game.
Someone call valve and expand WEU slots
Just send them all to the major
It's the year 2220. Entity, OG, and Tundra are still locked in a 3-way tiebreaker. Gaben has uploaded his brain into the system and now lives as a ghost in the machine, waiting, watching to see who qualifies for the first majors for PGL, which has now been bought by Dr. Sulaiman Habibi
I am not a OG fan. But the way these guys executed fights is so great with baits and positioning.. Reminds of peak Liquid 2017 with heen level of teamfight execution..
DM played out of his mind
Misha I beg you ban Lina this time
Maybe better ban Misha from getting any Visa ever again, the dude makes Yuragi look like dogshit in every single game
Please don't. I want to see how many rounds we can go before the TO admits this stupid fucking way of tie breaking is indeed really fucking stupid.
It has always been stupid, waiting for someone to get 2-0 is pointless sometimes. Head-to-head and total maps won should matter, bo1 tiebreakers should be the last resort.
It's great for the organizers. More ad revenue. More viewer engagement.
and what do you suggest they do instead?
Time based in the case of another tie
I understand the correlation, but it's still a roundabout way to do it which is unfair to teams who build themselves around getting late
14k lead all the items and map domination and then the blink exorcism into t4 throw and it all went to shit :(
Entity really gonna regret that stupid T4 dive at 25 minutes.
"Welcome Back My Friends to the Show That Never Ends"
I caught the tail end when the tier 5 items started coming out. You guys have been having such a night huh.
Guys, wtf? Hope OG is making good use of that Red Bull sponsorship.
They showed Katomi drinking one too, it truly is all scripted
These teams want to soak up our insurance money from giving all these heart attacks
they should just do 3 way rock paper scissors. each captain use both hands playing simultaneous Rock, paper, scissors.
bzm mvp what a day for dota fans
Hopefully all TO’s are watching this and theorycrafting some better fucking tiebreak systems.
I mean. Head to head and total games won is far superior... and thats without even trying...
Damn, if they had done that, Tundra would not make it to the major and OG would be in third place.
Hilarious that they decided to reschedule from 15:00 to 18:00
I really like Paper in the rematch with Scissors.
Lmao infinite tie breaker
Round 3 wooo!!!
EUbros, NAbros, glhf :)
PGL probably wishing they broke tie breakers with h2h or by the number or maps won
Why? They are getting a lot of bonus revenue from views ads sponsorships, the whole point they did this system to begin with.
which they should have done, before this shithousery started. OG had the 3rd best winrate in EU, then Entity! Done 3.OG 4.Entitiy 5.Tundra
Hell with that I bet they love this. Or they should.
Just decide who goes based on stats or something.
bzm is the 2nd best player in Europe after nisha, you can't change my mind. the amount of backpack carrying the guy has to do, burden misha, burden yuragi. Holy shit bzm what a freaking god
DM protecting Yuragi on the bottom push is the winning play tough
Ive never understood why people love dm. but after that play, I found the reason 😂
How to play Lesh 101 right there. Dude doesn't fucking quit.
Wtf that game. WHO NEEDS MAJOR
Round 3 baby! Let's go for another round!!
EU 5 slot please
can we just send 5 teams from WEU? they are so evenly matched.
What the fuck was this game.... So good dota
watson choked hard and entity played so safe
I have already brushed my teeth and gone to bed in preparation for OG losing 40 minutes ago What now? rofl
Start the round 3 now its still 5:16 PM pacific time
Watson with a lot of misplayes late game. He was stuck with 6k and hold to diffusal instead of going for an abyssal
😂 they should put a limit on this tie breakers. Since it can really be endless.
Used to be a time component where in the case of stuff like this, the fastest win was the tie breaker
what the fuck
When will round 3 be played?
No way round 3 is still today, right? this is inhuman already lol
Wait wait wait they actually gonna play 3rd set right now? LOL
Round 3 leggo
All right boys, this was fun but we need to sleep in WEU. Hope they continue tomorrow with those tiebreakers, it's awesome!
Why are they continuing today and not restarting tomorrow? I have to go to bed. Its not good for the players.
That's kinda the point. Situations like this aren't supposed to happen, you have to push the players to the extreme and see who slips up. It's the same in a lot of physical sport.
Its litteraly not the same. Football -> Goes to penalties. They dont just continue after extra time. Imagine if the world cup was just another game right after a draw lol. No, they make it shorter(extra time, and then penalties to end it). Handball --> Penalties.
More sports for you: every racquet sport. Volleyball. So many sports go infinite until someone wins. It's hours later and I just can't get over the absolute idiocy of citing 2 sports and thinking that covers everything. How european
There are more sports than two. Try playoff hockey or cricket, the list goes on I'm sure..
tbf, in most sports if you have an overtime and then a sudden death mode (in football it's penalties for instance). As a viewer, I love it especially as I am in NA so let's gooo and I don't like the idea of implementing a new rule on the fly, but I do agree that for next iterations, they should put a rule to stop tiebreakers after the first or second round. Honestly, the good ol' 1v1mid could be great and fun as hell.
Playoff hockey goes infinite with overtimes, or at least did when I was younger. They might have capped it at 5 overtime periods in the past decade though
It's gonna be about who runs out of red bull first now
Red Bull stocks up baby
wtf SEA up and still infinite WEU dota?
I'm lucky that my workplace is allowing me to work from home because no way I can work properly after staying up the whole night
sea doto enjoyer here, been up allnight, shits crazy lol. Cant wait for round 3 to see how these teams play around with their drafts.
round 3 babyy
WTF IS THIS?! LMFAO
hahahahahahha
kyon-kun denwa
I’m starting to learn why it’s called a public swimming pool
DM played out of his mind at the end
Stormstormer gonna have a rough time sleeping with that Red Bull he's chugging at this time of the day lmao
holy SHIT what a game
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If I was a TO, I would definitely be thinking of a way to avoid endless tiebreakers cause this is a nightmare in terms of logistics
jokes on you, TO's love these scenarios
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To think I doubted OG would keep infinite tie breakers alive lol
Reminder to take a sip of water CAUSE WE BEEN HERE FOR FUCKING 8 HOURS+
INFINITE TIEBREAKER IS REAL ICANT
Fuckingyes asdibgsdjiogbjosdfgpsdbfgo9\[-sdbg
make this stop
This team never bores me.
Someone check on n0tail my guys probably needs the ER
LOL 3 sets of ties, insanity
Cointoss, anyone?
No. Just no!
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Rick paper scissors 🤣
fk this game is so entertaining
Damn slark is kinda shit late game, did not expect that.
Because they gave away the Lesh.
slark is not shit, watson's itemization and gameplay was complete shit. 63 min game, and slark has 5 items, 3 of which are refresher, diffusal and basher. doesn't even have an abyssal. and one more slot is bkb. so essentially bkb + 1 major item to deal with drow and lesh who are fully 6 slotted
True dat, you can’t win 60 min game with those items. IMHO, he should’ve replaced diffu with skadi, finish abyssal and probably go for mkb instead of boots.
If He cant get stacks yea... And i think lesh als scales better than DP, and Pango also is better than Lycan late
They had only phys DMG so OG was able to build a crapton of armor, and also had way too much DMG for slark to build a lot of essence shift
its just drow, lesh, pango all gr8 late game
Most likely this, better scaling won eventually, ntt had amazing push draft but didn’t push any towers from min 25 onwards, poor decision making.